[QUOTE="TigerWars"][QUOTE="0rbs"][QUOTE="Chicken453"] Wrong there. There are already 3 proposed places where micro-organic life exists in our solar system, one out of the three has already been confirmed. To OP Yes. Some of you guys should look at the organism the Tardigrade. Though of course a complex organism could never really evolve to the extent that a Tardigrade. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrade Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. My wife and I talked to our pastor today and he made a great point. If aliens are real how why come are they not in th bible? God laid out his plan and it doesnt look like aliens are in the cards. Looks like this one is in the books. Aliens are great for thr movie business though! Indeed they are - just by a different name ;) Broaden your horizon on what 'aliens' could mean and you will see it allign with the Bible as well as pretty much any ancient text describing a god or gods. They're not in the bible. You cannot change gods words for your lunacy.
[QUOTE="TigerWars"][QUOTE="0rbs"] Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. My wife and I talked to our pastor today and he made a great point. If aliens are real how why come are they not in th bible? God laid out his plan and it doesnt look like aliens are in the cards. Looks like this one is in the books. Aliens are great for thr movie business though!0rbs
Indeed they are - just by a different name ;) Broaden your horizon on what 'aliens' could mean and you will see it allign with the Bible as well as pretty much any ancient text describing a god or gods. They're not in the bible. You cannot change gods words for your lunacy.
I'm pretty sure only 1 out 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets have life.Â
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Wrong there. There are already 3 proposed places where micro-organic life exists in our solar system, one out of the three has already been confirmed. To OP Yes. Some of you guys should look at the organism the Tardigrade. Though of course a complex organism could never really evolve to the extent that a Tardigrade. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrade Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. My wife and I talked to our pastor today and he made a great point. If aliens are real how why come are they not in th bible? God laid out his plan and it doesnt look like aliens are in the cards. Looks like this one is in the books. Aliens are great for thr movie business though! must be a troll.... at least i wish people like this didn't exist. no what else isn't in the bible... cars. i guess they don't exist either, just something movies use for cool chase scenes.
Over a sextillion stars in the universe. Chances are pretty high at least one of them has a planet in its solar system that can sustain life.
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There are trillions of grains of sand on the beach, does that mean one of them is intelligent?
this is the most ridiculous argument i have ever seen... No life just doesn't randomly happen when conditions are rifght. Divine intervention causes it.
There are trillions of grains of sand on the beach, does that mean one of them is intelligent?
0rbs
this is the most ridiculous argument i have ever seen... No life just doesn't randomly happen when conditions are rifght. Divine intervention causes it.
[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"] It's not being self absorbed. It's a disbelief of what is nothing more than a giant assumption. An assumption with flawed reasoning that could be used for anything.Capitan_Kid
What flawed reasoning? Â Sentient life exists, we are proof of that. Â There is life in the universe. Â Assumption and reason have nothing to do with it, it's solely a matter of probability, and given how incomprehensibly vast the universe is, you'd have to have to scope of an ant and laughable arrogance to even begin to believe we are alone. Â I myself wouldn't be at all surprised if there were trillions of other lifeforms out there similar to us around the galaxy.
If life can happen here, why can't it happen somewhere else? Â Without resorting to your book?
We are proof there is life on this planet. Not that there are other sources of life in the universe and yes it is nothing more than a giant assumption on your part. The only reason you believe in aliens is because there's a chance of them being real. There's a probability for a man breaking into my house and kicking me right in the nads but it's super low. Flawed reasoning amigo.
So, you'd say if there were unimaginable numbers of houses that you own, the probability of someone breaking into just one and kicking your in the nads is still super low? Â No, when the amount gets to be in the trillions or more, the chances increase to a near certainty. Â Sure I'm wagering on chance, but considering how vast the universe is, the odds are overwhelmingly in my favor. Â Open your mind, what you write shows that your scope of thinking is very small and linear. Â If anyone has flawed reasoning here, it is you.
Yes, but aside from the idea of us being the only habitable planet being crazy & unsettling, I think that at the very least they are in a bacteria state etc. Not that we'll know in our lifetime.
I think people are jumping on the pop culture of what it means to have life outside Earth. Yes there is high possibility that a platform in several solar system that has existing alien life (bacterias etc), however what we need ask ourselves is do they have intelligent life? (near humanoid creatures)
There are trillions of grains of sand on the beach, does that mean one of them is intelligent?
0rbs
this is the most ridiculous argument i have ever seen... No life just doesn't randomly happen when conditions are rifght. Divine intervention causes it. Well done. That ... no I won't say what I think.
There's apparently hundreds of planets out there, so there just cannot be that one planet (Earth) that has life on it. There's got to be something out there.
There's apparently hundreds of planets out there, so there just cannot be that one planet (Earth) that has life on it. There's got to be something out there.ShaineTheNerd
There's apparently hundreds of planets out there, so there just cannot be that one planet (Earth) that has life on it. There's got to be something out there.ShaineTheNerd
[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"]There's apparently hundreds of planets out there, so there just cannot be that one planet (Earth) that has life on it. There's got to be something out there.chaoscougar1
Hundreds? Couple trillion more like it Pure speculation.
[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"]There's apparently hundreds of planets out there, so there just cannot be that one planet (Earth) that has life on it. There's got to be something out there.0rbs
Hundreds? Couple trillion more like it Pure speculation. Do you know how big the universe is?
Yes, alien life could be rare in our universe or plentiful, but rare things happen all the time in a universe so massive. To me, the universe could be full of life with 10% of the universe containing life, but we just can't reach out far enough to see life taking place.
[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"]There's apparently hundreds of planets out there, so there just cannot be that one planet (Earth) that has life on it. There's got to be something out there.themajormayor
Come on now Well, we've only found about 500 or so by now so he's right in a way, but I would like to agree with a bigger number than hundreds.
[QUOTE="MonoSilver"][QUOTE="0rbs"] Pure speculation.0rbs
Do you know how big the universe is?
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Do you? Have you measured it? Or do you go by what scientists say with their primitive equipment, and their ideas change 10 times a year?
I go buy scientists and facts yes, instead of what some made up book tells me. You seem to ignore and not acknowledge what is in front of you and can't be denied. You're living in a dream land.
There are roughly 400 billion stars in the milky way galaxy, billions of galaxies in the universe, and planets seem to be extremely common. We've found around 1000 planets just in nearby star systems. Out of those trillions of possiblities, I find it highly unlikely that Earth is unique in the universe in harboring intelligent life. However, I find it highly unlikely that we could ever make contact with alien life. We would need to be able to travel many times the speed of light, and I'm just not sure that's possible. But who knows, 100 years ago, traveling to the moon would have been inconceivable and we've done it, and even as recently as the 1990s a device like the iPhone was Star Trek level sci-fi stuff. Could knights fighting with swords 1000 years ago ever have conceived of nuclear weapons that can destroy entire continents? We could see some insane advances in technology that would make FTL travel possible. Human technology has defied all odds and done incredible things many times before.Â
[QUOTE="MonoSilver"][QUOTE="0rbs"] Pure speculation.0rbs
Do you know how big the universe is?
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Do you? Have you measured it? Or do you go by what scientists say with their primitive equipment, and their ideas change 10 times a year?
assuming you aren't a troll, that's the beauty of science...it changes when shown new evidence. You, however wallow in the ignorant ideas of ancient barbarians
There are roughly 400 billion stars in the milky way galaxy, billions of galaxies in the universe, and planets seem to be extremely common. We've found around 1000 planets just in nearby star systems. Out of those trillions of possiblities, I find it highly unlikely that Earth is unique in the universe in harboring intelligent life. However, I find it highly unlikely that we could ever make contact with alien life. We would need to be able to travel many times the speed of light, and I'm just not sure that's possible. But who knows, 100 years ago, traveling to the moon would have been inconceivable and we've done it, and even as recently as the 1990s a device like the iPhone was Star Trek level sci-fi stuff. Could knights fighting with swords 1000 years ago ever have conceived of nuclear weapons that can destroy entire continents? We could see some insane advances in technology that would make FTL travel possible. Human technology has defied all odds and done incredible things many times before.Â
bigfoot2045
Too bad human technology is also bad in a lot of ways. Like the atomic bomb.
There are roughly 400 billion stars in the milky way galaxy, billions of galaxies in the universe, and planets seem to be extremely common. We've found around 1000 planets just in nearby star systems. Out of those trillions of possiblities, I find it highly unlikely that Earth is unique in the universe in harboring intelligent life. However, I find it highly unlikely that we could ever make contact with alien life. We would need to be able to travel many times the speed of light, and I'm just not sure that's possible. But who knows, 100 years ago, traveling to the moon would have been inconceivable and we've done it, and even as recently as the 1990s a device like the iPhone was Star Trek level sci-fi stuff. Could knights fighting with swords 1000 years ago ever have conceived of nuclear weapons that can destroy entire continents? We could see some insane advances in technology that would make FTL travel possible. Human technology has defied all odds and done incredible things many times before.Â
CecilChups
Too bad human technology is also bad in a lot of ways. Like the atomic bomb.
The atomic bomb isn't even all bad. It might one day save us from a near earth impact.Â
Also, you touch on a good point, which is that war has always been a huge motivating factor in the advancement of technology. Our current space faring technology is largely a result of WW2 and the Cold War. I have a feeling if an alien invasion ever happened, we would see our technology advance hundreds of years overnight, assuming we survive the initial onslaught. This is the premise of many sci-fi novels, like Ender's Game.Â
On topic, if their is no intelligent life anywhere but here, it's an awful waste of space. Planets in the habitable zone of their stars are much, much more common than we ever previously imagined. (especially around red dwarf stars) Their has also been gas giants in that zone, which means the potential for their moons to harbor life as well, should they have any.
There may even be life in our own solar system on moons, Titan and Europa being two good possiblities. Europa looks very promising with its water ocean and oxygen atmosphere. At the very least these are promising spots for human colonization.Â
On topic, if their is no intelligent life anywhere but here, it's an awful waste of space. Planets in the habitable zone of their stars are much, much more common than we ever previously imagined. (especially around red dwarf stars) Their has also been gas giants in that zone, which means the potential for their moons to harbor life as well, should they have any.RandoIphF
this is an interesting observation, i would like to hear a rebuttal from some sort of theist... if we are made by a creator and are special and unique in the universe, what could all that space be for? according to one theist in this thread there is no aliens because they are not in his sacred book... is space and all the other planets in your book? why are they there?
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