Do You Consider Yourself To Be A Good Person? Poll.

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]
...What I meant was I don't think you ever were.:)Dark_Knight6

I could have sworn that I was.  Followed the Bible, prayed, and all that.  

have you

admitted you are a sinner

Confessed with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord"

Believed in your heart that God raised Jesus from the dead?

[QUOTE="J-man45"]

why not?

Dark_Knight6

Simply said, I'm attracted to other men.  

The Bible doesn't condemn attraction but it does condemn sodomy (acting on your attractions). Keep all that pent up sexual frustration bottled and you can still repent.

have you

admitted you are a sinner

Confessed with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord"

Believed in your heart that God raised Jesus from the dead?

J-man45

Yes, a long time ago.  

The Bible doesn't condemn attraction but it does condemn sodomy (acting on your attractions). Keep all that pent up sexual frustration bottled and you can still repent.

Godly_Warrior

Oh, sound like fun.  :?

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="J-man45"]

 

But were truly convinced you belived in him? Did you pray to him at night? Did you thank him for your family and good fortune?

J-man45

Yes to all three.

If that is true, than what could have possibly made you turn your back on him?

It was a simple matter of questioning my beliefs at the time.

I spent a couple hours studying scripture with my mom every weekend, and I went to sunday school every week. The more I dived into the bible, the further away I started to shift from my faith. This took place over the course of a couple years, and by the end of middle school, I had given up my faith. The next year I started to look to new possibilities and forms of faith and belief systems. It wasn't too long before I came to the conclusion that nothing could satisfy me and be held in agreement with the way I think. I finally came to the conclusion that I should discard all of my beliefs, and maintain that it is highly likely that I and all other human beings are simply not capable of making a sound and ultimately true decision on metaphysical and supernatural ramifications of existence. My parents even began to start questioning their faith because of what I had discussed with them, and they no longer strictly adhere to the bible as they once did.

Anyway, that's just a short summary of it. I'd rather not take the time to completely explain everything and all the details of what I contemplated and how it shaped the way I think.

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]After you answer that question, I ask that you would please answer these questions:

Have you ever told a lie? YEAH ALL THE TIME!HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHH!

Have you ever stolen anything?Too many things to count. I stole a truck, then used it to rob a bank today.

Have you ever looked with lust?Um, I'm human. Its normal.  that doesnt make somebody "bad"

Have you ever hated anyone? Yes, especially the jews!

Have you ever used God's name in vain? Like as a swear word? Who doesn't?  but i don't believe in that term. I'm not a religious person, so "Using God's name in vain" just sounds ridiculous to me

After you answer these, I'll quote you and ask you a few more. I'll answer them along with you guys. God bless, Crushmaster.Talldude80

Also in addition to your questions, I am BAD for other reasons.  Such as I voted for Obama, and I have unprotected sex with prostitutes ALL the time! and then i dont even pay them! hahahahahahaah!

edit:  oh and while i'm confesing how many sins i have! I also have sex with girls and then i dont call them again! ahhahahahaah!

btw, your thread actually makes me sick...... sorry to hear you have been brainwashed by the bible.

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]
...What I meant was I don't think you ever were.:)Dark_Knight6

I could have sworn that I was.  Followed the Bible, prayed, and all that.  

[QUOTE="J-man45"]

have you

admitted you are a sinner

Confessed with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord"

Believed in your heart that God raised Jesus from the dead?

Dark_Knight6

Yes, a long time ago.  

Congratulations! Your saved!:) But God also expects you to "act the part" as well. For the Bible says "If you love me, you will obey my commandments."

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]
...What I meant was I don't think you ever were.:)Crushmaster

I could have sworn that I was.  Followed the Bible, prayed, and all that.  

As in Baptized?  Yes, I was.  

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]

That's all well but... our will isn't really that free is it? I mean, I don't decide what my opinions will be and then have them, they force themselves on me as if from outside.

blackregiment

So you don't form your own opinions, they are "forced" on you by others?

I form opinions based on the force of the arguments presented or on any other criteria, but I do not choose first which opinions I will hold. Which opinion is strong enough to convince me is not my choice.

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="J-man45"]

why not?

Godly_Warrior

Simply said, I'm attracted to other men.

The Bible doesn't condemn attraction but it does condemn sodomy (acting on your attractions). Keep all that pent up sexual frustration bottled and you can still repent.

I'm just going to leave this here...

*eats popcorn*

Shad0ki11

God is the Highest authority. There is no higher authority to appeal too. He is Supreme. He has elevated His Word above His name. His Word is truth. God has revealed His truth in the Bible.  

[QUOTE="Talldude80"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]After you answer that question, I ask that you would please answer these questions:

Have you ever told a lie? YEAH ALL THE TIME!HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHH!

Have you ever stolen anything?Too many things to count. I stole a truck, then used it to rob a bank today.

Have you ever looked with lust?Um, I'm human. Its normal.  that doesnt make somebody "bad"

Have you ever hated anyone? Yes, especially the jews!

Have you ever used God's name in vain? Like as a swear word? Who doesn't?  but i don't believe in that term. I'm not a religious person, so "Using God's name in vain" just sounds ridiculous to me

After you answer these, I'll quote you and ask you a few more. I'll answer them along with you guys. God bless, Crushmaster.Crushmaster

Also in addition to your questions, I am BAD for other reasons.  Such as I voted for Obama, and I have unprotected sex with prostitutes ALL the time! and then i dont even pay them! hahahahahahaah!

edit:  oh and while i'm confesing how many sins i have! I also have sex with girls and then i dont call them again! ahhahahahaah!

btw, your thread actually makes me sick...... sorry to hear you have been brainwashed by the bible.

your a 14 year old kid who wastes his time preaching on the internet to people a lot older than him.

What does that make you?  Presumably the last sentence talldude wrote...presumably.

(how i got 14 year old? when you admitted to it way early in this thread, like yesterday....)

Congratulations! Your saved!:) But God also expects you to "act the part" as well. For the Bible says "If you love me, you will obey my commandments."

J-man45

Well, theres my problem.   I don't think I can keep everything bottled up for the rest of my life.  

I should've known - I stumbled into a topic about whether you're good or not and it seems I have to be religious to answer yes...

If that's the benchmark for this thread then no I'm not. But if it's in a universal sense, then I've been told I'm a "Ripper bloke" (That's Aussie for good guy) many times.

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]
...What I meant was I don't think you ever were.:)J-man45

I could have sworn that I was.  Followed the Bible, prayed, and all that.  

have you

admitted you are a sinner

Confessed with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord"

Believed in your heart that God raised Jesus from the dead?

You forgot, humbly repented of your sin and sinful ways and committed to God that you will follow Christ and His will, as your Lord and Savior.  

Without sincere repentance there is no salvation and forgiveness of sin.

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

I could have sworn that I was. Followed the Bible, prayed, and all that.

Dark_Knight6

As in Baptized? Yes, I was.

I should've known - I stumbled into a topic about whether you're good or not and it seems I have to be religious to answer yes...

If that's the benchmark for this thread then no I'm not. But if it's in a universal sense, then I've been told I'm a "Ripper bloke" (That's Aussie for good guy) many times.

D3nnyCrane

It is not about being "religious". It is about accepting Christ as your Lord and Savior.  Religion is man's feeble attempt to reach up to God.Christ is God reaching down to fallen man witha path to salvation.

No, baptism is not being born again. Baptism is a public profession that you have been born again.
We are only born again if we admit we're a sinner, accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior, and repent of our sins (repent means to turn away from; cast far from us).
When we are born again, our sins our covered by Christ's Shed-Blood from the Cross, and we become Children of God!:)Crushmaster

I've done those.  Haven't done so since like the 7th grade, though.  

[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"] Being a Roman Catholic does not make you a Christian. There are very, very few of them who are Christians. The vast majority of them trust in the Sacraments, which cannot save you. Christ, and Christ alone, is all that can save you.Crushmaster

"Roman Catholic beliefs do not differ drastically from those of the other major branches of Christianity - Greek Orthodoxy and Protestantism. All three main branches hold to the doctrine of the Trinity, the divinity of Christ, the inspiration of the Bible, and so on. But on more minor doctrinal points, there are clear Catholic distinctives in belief." (ReligionFacts, Catholicism)

[QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]

I should've known - I stumbled into a topic about whether you're good or not and it seems I have to be religious to answer yes...

If that's the benchmark for this thread then no I'm not. But if it's in a universal sense, then I've been told I'm a "Ripper bloke" (That's Aussie for good guy) many times.

blackregiment

It is not about being "religious". It is about accepting Christ as your Lord and Savior.  Religion is man's feeble attempt to reach up to God.Christ is God reaching down to fallen man witha path to salvation.

no youre wrong. it is about being religious.

I should've known - I stumbled into a topic about whether you're good or not and it seems I have to be religious to answer yes...

If that's the benchmark for this thread then no I'm not. But if it's in a universal sense, then I've been told I'm a "Ripper bloke" (That's Aussie for good guy) many times.

D3nnyCrane

...and I'm pretty sure you do more good and bring more happiness than several religious posters in this thread.

[QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]

I should've known - I stumbled into a topic about whether you're good or not and it seems I have to be religious to answer yes...

If that's the benchmark for this thread then no I'm not. But if it's in a universal sense, then I've been told I'm a "Ripper bloke" (That's Aussie for good guy) many times.

blackregiment

It is not about being "religious". It is about accepting Christ as your Lord and Savior. Religion is man's feeble attempt to reach up to God.Christ is God reaching down to fallen man witha path to salvation.

Seriously all credit for believing in God but have been down that path and have realised I have nothing but pity for people who need organised religion to feel some sort of purpose in life.
I guarantee you whether you believe in God or not you are going to get lowered into the ground and that's the end of it. The reality is I once believed in God and all, but now until he comes down and introduces himself, I'm just a little busy.

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="MattUD1"]That's like saying a rectangle cannot possibly be a square because squares have equal sides...MattUD1

"Roman Catholic beliefs do not differ drastically from those of the other major branches of Christianity - Greek Orthodoxy and Protestantism. All three main branches hold to the doctrine of the Trinity, the divinity of Christ, the inspiration of the Bible, and so on. But on more minor doctrinal points, there are clear Catholic distinctives in belief." (ReligionFacts, Catholicism)

The Bible never condones homosexuality.Crushmaster

Yay, look like I'm screwed regardless.  

[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"]
No, it is not. The Bible says, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life: No man cometh to the Father but by Me (Or, Christ)."
The Sacraments are not Christ. They are empty rituals.Crushmaster

"Roman Catholic beliefs do not differ drastically from those of the other major branches of Christianity - Greek Orthodoxy and Protestantism. All three main branches hold to the doctrine of the Trinity, the divinity of Christ, the inspiration of the Bible, and so on. But on more minor doctrinal points, there are clear Catholic distinctives in belief." (ReligionFacts, Catholicism)

[QUOTE="Godly_Warrior"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

 

Simply said, I'm attracted to other men.

Crushmaster

The Bible doesn't condemn attraction but it does condemn sodomy (acting on your attractions). Keep all that pent up sexual frustration bottled and you can still repent.

I just said that it never condemns attraction (without consummation).

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="MattUD1"] The Roman Catholic Church, officially known as the Catholic Church, is the world's largest Christian church representing over half of all Christians and one-sixth of the world's population. (Wikipedia, Roman Catholic Church")

 

"Roman Catholic beliefs do not differ drastically from those of the other major branches of Christianity - Greek Orthodoxy and Protestantism. All three main branches hold to the doctrine of the Trinity, the divinity of Christ, the inspiration of the Bible, and so on. But on more minor doctrinal points, there are clear Catholic distinctives in belief." (ReligionFacts, Catholicism)

MattUD1

crushmaster. the wise, all-krowing 14 year old :roll:

[QUOTE="J-man45"]

In the Bible it is stated that Jesus, God's son, doesn't sin. And here we have Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God is one Lord It states that Jesus and God are united as one. God has not sinned.

Hewkii

though you could interpret that snippet to say that Christianity is wrong because God is (by Christianity's definition) three beings acting as one in tandem.

God is one in essence, three in persons.

1 * 1* 1 = 1

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="MattUD1"] The Roman Catholic Church, officially known as the Catholic Church, is the world's largest Christian church representing over half of all Christians and one-sixth of the world's population. (Wikipedia, Roman Catholic Church")

"Roman Catholic beliefs do not differ drastically from those of the other major branches of Christianity - Greek Orthodoxy and Protestantism. All three main branches hold to the doctrine of the Trinity, the divinity of Christ, the inspiration of the Bible, and so on. But on more minor doctrinal points, there are clear Catholic distinctives in belief." (ReligionFacts, Catholicism)

MattUD1

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

I'm just going to leave this here...

*eats popcorn*

blackregiment

God is the Highest authority. There is no higher authority to appeal too. He is Supreme. He has elevated His Word above His name. His Word is truth. God has revealed His truth in the Bible.  

Hang on aren't you just pulling all of those things from the Bible?

crushmaster. the wise, all-krowing 14 year old :roll:

taj7575

I don't need to interview them. Their beliefs tell me.Crushmaster

Hahaha, oh man...

[QUOTE="J-man45"][QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"]

 

It's okay, he doesn't browse these forums.

It's like making fun of the Amish: It's easy to poke fun at them since they have no way of finding out about it.

Shad0ki11

God sees and knows all.

He didn't know Adam and Eve were going betray him. Not only that, but he couldn't detect Satan in serpent form. He punishes the serpent, not the fallen angel himself. 

Prove those incorrect assertions. As far as punishing satan, read Revelation.

Sorry but the idea of believing in God doesn't make you a "Good" person - being forgiven for sin does not mean you sin any less than the next man. Therefore, I really do find an argument here irrelevant. The mark of a good man is being able to look them in the eye and have an honest respect for that person. Anyone petitioning to be good on the basis of faith is completely missing the point of faith to begin with.D3nnyCrane

No one is good by God's standards. We are all sinners. No one, including born again saved Christians are sinless. We are all deserving of eternal punishment. The difference is, when one accepts Christ, they are counted righteous in God's eyes, their sin is covered by the blood of Christ. The price they deserve to pay for their sin was paid by Christ. Christ's righteousness is imputed to them.

Those that reject Christ pay their own price for their sin.    

[QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

I'm just going to leave this here...

*eats popcorn*

domatron23

God is the Highest authority. There is no higher authority to appeal too. He is Supreme. He has elevated His Word above His name. His Word is truth. God has revealed His truth in the Bible.  

Hang on aren't you just pulling all of those things from the Bible?

The truth of God Word is confirmed by the Holy Spirit who dwells in my heart and guides me to the truth.  

crushmaster. the wise, all-krowing 14 year old :roll:

taj7575

You should not make fun of people for their age. 

He is wise where it counts, he has Christ and eternal salvation.  Where does that leave you?

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

crushmaster. the wise, all-krowing 14 year old :roll:

Blood-Scribe

I don't need to interview them. Their beliefs tell me.Crushmaster

Hahaha, oh man...

shh. dont question him.

[QUOTE="Blood-Scribe"][QUOTE="taj7575"]

 

Hahaha, oh man...

taj7575

shh. dont question him.

Okay then, he is now exempt from the burden of proof.

Edit: How did the GS staff screw up quoting scripts this badly? The forums have somehow managed to be less stable than the beta version...

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

crushmaster. the wise, all-krowing 14 year old :roll:

blackregiment

You should not make fun of people for their age. 

He is wise where it counts, he has Christ and eternal salvation.  Where does that leave you?

I'd actually agree with Blackregiment (to an extent).  Someone's age is not directly related to their knowledge.  

[QUOTE="domatron23"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

 

God is the Highest authority. There is no higher authority to appeal too. He is Supreme. He has elevated His Word above His name. His Word is truth. God has revealed His truth in the Bible.  

blackregiment

Hang on aren't you just pulling all of those things from the Bible?

The truth of God Word is confirmed by the Holy Spirit who dwells in my heart and guides me to the truth.  

Doesn't the Bible also say that the holy spirit works upon people? Don't people from other religions also have the same conviction as you?

[QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]

I should've known - I stumbled into a topic about whether you're good or not and it seems I have to be religious to answer yes...

If that's the benchmark for this thread then no I'm not. But if it's in a universal sense, then I've been told I'm a "Ripper bloke" (That's Aussie for good guy) many times.

D3nnyCrane

It is not about being "religious". It is about accepting Christ as your Lord and Savior. Religion is man's feeble attempt to reach up to God.Christ is God reaching down to fallen man witha path to salvation.

Seriously all credit for believing in God but have been down that path and have realised I have nothing but pity for people who need organised religion to feel some sort of purpose in life.
I guarantee you whether you believe in God or not you are going to get lowered into the ground and that's the end of it. The reality is I once believed in God and all, but now until he comes down and introduces himself, I'm just a little busy.

You are entitled to you beliefs but you sure better hope you are right. One thing for sure we will all find out someday. If you are right, we will both end up in the same place. If you are wrong, and unless you accept Christ, we will be in entirely different eternal places. God gave us a free will to select the eternal destination we choose. 

Luk 13:28  There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
 

[QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="taj7575"]

crushmaster. the wise, all-krowing 14 year old :roll:

Dark_Knight6

You should not make fun of people for their age. 

He is wise where it counts, he has Christ and eternal salvation.  Where does that leave you?

I'd actually agree with Blackregiment (to an extent).  Someone's age is not directly related to their knowledge.  

yes, but preaching religion online? 

[QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

 

It is not about being "religious". It is about accepting Christ as your Lord and Savior. Religion is man's feeble attempt to reach up to God.Christ is God reaching down to fallen man witha path to salvation.

blackregiment

Seriously all credit for believing in God but have been down that path and have realised I have nothing but pity for people who need organised religion to feel some sort of purpose in life.
I guarantee you whether you believe in God or not you are going to get lowered into the ground and that's the end of it. The reality is I once believed in God and all, but now until he comes down and introduces himself, I'm just a little busy.

You are entitled to you beliefs but you sure better hope you are right. One thing for sure we will all find out someday. If you are right, we will both end up in the same place. If you are wrong, and unless you accept Christ, we will be in entirely different eternal places. God gave us a free will to select the eternal destination we choose. 

Luk 13:28  There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
 

And what if it turns out we've all been deceived this whole time, and every last sentient being on this planet suffers for an eternity because not one single person through history managed to actually believe in the right deity?

also say that the holy spirit works upon people? Don't people from other religions also have the same conviction as you? domatron23

I beleive it says we receive the Holy Spirit once we receive christ.

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

crushmaster. the wise, all-krowing 14 year old :roll:

blackregiment

You should not make fun of people for their age. 

He is wise where it counts, he has Christ and eternal salvation.  Where does that leave you?

wise where is counts is in your studies. 

 

yes, but preaching religion online? 

taj7575

I don't agree with it.  My point is, his age should be left out of this argument.  

wise where is counts is in your studies. 

taj7575

On an Internet forum users can remain anonymous or lie about themselves, so wisdom is dependant upon what they type.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="domatron23"]

Hang on aren't you just pulling all of those things from the Bible?

domatron23

The truth of God Word is confirmed by the Holy Spirit who dwells in my heart and guides me to the truth.  

Doesn't the Bible also say that the holy spirit works upon people? Don't people from other religions also have the same conviction as you?

The Holy Spirit works to convict the hearts of those that seek God and bring them to a knowledge of the truth in Christ. However until one repents and accepts Christ as their Lord and Savior and they are born again, a new creature in Christ, the Holy Spirit does not dwell in their hearts.  Biblical Christianity is a personal relationship with Christ, it is not a religion. The Lord has told us that Christ is the only path to salvation.