Do you feel Racial Slurs can be used in a way that isn't racist?

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#201 LJS9502_basic
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I'm not interested in the meanings people have slapped onto words to turn them into insults.

I live in the real world, where if someone says something, the meaning is based on context and it's actual meaning, not on how people used the word hundreds of years ago.

Nibroc420

Yet again...in the real world...words have meaning. You can't change the meaning to suit your needs. There is NO communication without definition.

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#202 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

I'm not interested in the meanings people have slapped onto words to turn them into insults.

I live in the real world, where if someone says something, the meaning is based on context and it's actual meaning, not on how people used the word hundreds of years ago.

LJS9502_basic

Yet again...in the real world...words have meaning. You can't change the meaning to suit your needs. There is NO communication without definition.

Words have multiple definitions. I'm using the words denotation, not some connotation dreamt up by racists. Unless i use the word in a manner that would suggest I'm being racist, i should not be labeled racist simply because of what happened hundreds of years ago.
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#203 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

I'm not interested in the meanings people have slapped onto words to turn them into insults.

I live in the real world, where if someone says something, the meaning is based on context and it's actual meaning, not on how people used the word hundreds of years ago.

Nibroc420

Yet again...in the real world...words have meaning. You can't change the meaning to suit your needs. There is NO communication without definition.

Words have multiple definitions. I'm using the words denotation, not some connotation dreamt up by racists. Unless i use the word in a manner that would suggest I'm being racist, i should not be labeled racist simply because of what happened hundreds of years ago.

The word has a specific meaning.....and it's a negative meaning. It is what it is. I cannot fathom why you feel the need to use a word that has that meaning to start with. If one REALLY wanted to use a complimentary expression....they do, in fact, exist.
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#204 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Yet again...in the real world...words have meaning. You can't change the meaning to suit your needs. There is NO communication without definition.

LJS9502_basic

Words have multiple definitions. I'm using the words denotation, not some connotation dreamt up by racists. Unless i use the word in a manner that would suggest I'm being racist, i should not be labeled racist simply because of what happened hundreds of years ago.

The word has a specific meaning.....and it's a negative meaning. It is what it is. I cannot fathom why you feel the need to use a word that has that meaning to start with. If one REALLY wanted to use a complimentary expression....they do, in fact, exist.

The word has multiple meanings. You happen to enjoy the meaning dreamt up by racists, as a means to put down the african american population whilst they enslaved them.

Would you mind explaining why you feel maintaining such a negative connotation is needed; when there are neutral, non offensive meanings available?

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#205 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Words have multiple definitions. I'm using the words denotation, not some connotation dreamt up by racists. Unless i use the word in a manner that would suggest I'm being racist, i should not be labeled racist simply because of what happened hundreds of years ago.Nibroc420

The word has a specific meaning.....and it's a negative meaning. It is what it is. I cannot fathom why you feel the need to use a word that has that meaning to start with. If one REALLY wanted to use a complimentary expression....they do, in fact, exist.

The word has multiple meanings. You happen to enjoy the meaning dreamt up by racists, as a means to put down the african american population whilst they enslaved them.

Would you mind explaining why you feel maintaining such a negative connotation is needed; when there are neutral, non offensive meanings available?

Actually it doesn't have multiple meanings....
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#206 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] The word has a specific meaning.....and it's a negative meaning. It is what it is. I cannot fathom why you feel the need to use a word that has that meaning to start with. If one REALLY wanted to use a complimentary expression....they do, in fact, exist. LJS9502_basic

The word has multiple meanings. You happen to enjoy the meaning dreamt up by racists, as a means to put down the african american population whilst they enslaved them.

Would you mind explaining why you feel maintaining such a negative connotation is needed; when there are neutral, non offensive meanings available?

Actually it does ;) Actually it doesn't have multiple meanings....

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#207 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]= Actually it does ;)

Show me where that word has another meaning other than being applied to a specific race.
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#208 With-Hatred
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[QUOTE="With-Hatred"]

limiting freedom of speech is a slippery slot towards totalitarianism.

Omni-Slash

I'm hoping no-one is saying that the words should be banned.....but you should have the common descency and respect not to use them.......

exactly

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#209 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"]= Actually it does ;)

Show me where that word has another meaning other than being applied to a specific race.

n***** : A dark-skinned person, especially a person of, or primarily of, Negro descent;
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"]= Actually it does ;)

Show me where that word has another meaning other than being applied to a specific race.

n***** : A dark-skinned person, especially a person of, or primarily of, Negro descent;

No......that is not what the word means.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"]= Actually it does ;) Nibroc420
Show me where that word has another meaning other than being applied to a specific race.

***** : A dark-skinned person, especially a person of, or primarily of, Negro descent;

Which dictionary did you get that from?

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#212 LJS9502_basic
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Here is the definition 1.Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive . 2. Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive . a person of any race or origin regarded as contemptible, inferior, ignorant, etc. 3. a victim of prejudice ; person who is economically, politically, or socially disenfranchised. :

There is NO positive definition to this word. NONE.

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Show me where that word has another meaning other than being applied to a specific race.harashawn

***** : A dark-skinned person, especially a person of, or primarily of, Negro descent;

Which dictionary did you get that from?

Google Search, "Define N*****" Source is Wiktionary
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#214 LJS9502_basic
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Google Search, "Define *****" Source is Wiktionary Nibroc420
Did you notice before the definition you used it had the word vulgar? That means the word can be used complimentary to you? Anyway I used a dictionary and gave you the actual definition. It does not defend your stance.

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#215 Nibroc420
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A dark-skinned person, especially a person of, or primarily of, Negro descent; A person of Negro descent who acts in an unapproved manner, usually as a badass; Informal term of address en.wiktionary.org/wiki/N***** I dont see the word "Vulgar"
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#216 LJS9502_basic
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I dont see the word "Vulgar"Nibroc420
I just went to your source...right before the definition the word vulgar is in italics.:|
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] I dont see the word "Vulgar"LJS9502_basic
I just went to your source...right before the definition the word vulgar is in italics.:|

Wheres that?

I dont see it.

Perhaps you're simply relying on negative connotations? rather than the actual definition.

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#218 Silverbond
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Why do you keep bleeping out the word when you type it if it's perfectly okay to use it?

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#219 Silverbond
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I dont see it.

Perhaps you're simply relying on negative connotations? rather than the actual definition.

Nibroc420

Uh... no. There's definitely the word "vulgar" right in front of that exact definition.

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#220 LJS9502_basic
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I dont see it.

Perhaps you're simply relying on negative connotations? rather than the actual definition.

Nibroc420

(vulgar, see usage notes)Right there before the definition it says this....

And I posted the definition from an actual dictionary up above though I note you ignored it since it is the opposite of what you say.;)

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#221 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

I dont see it.

Perhaps you're simply relying on negative connotations? rather than the actual definition.

Silverbond

Uh... no. There's definitely the word "vulgar" right in front of that exact definition.

There isn't, and i provided proof... dont know where you're getting your info from?
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

I dont see it.

Perhaps you're simply relying on negative connotations? rather than the actual definition.

LJS9502_basic

(vulgar, see usage notes)Right there before the definition it says this....

And I posted the definition from an actual dictionary up above though I note you ignored it since it is the opposite of what you say.;)

I prefer to rely on the literal meaning, rather than the connotations dreamt up by racists.

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#223 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

I dont see it.

Perhaps you're simply relying on negative connotations? rather than the actual definition.

Nibroc420

Uh... no. There's definitely the word "vulgar" right in front of that exact definition.

There isn't, and i provided proof... dont know where you're getting your info from?

Wiktionary?

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#224 LOXO7
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Words are overrated. People shouldn't say they are offended when they hear or read sounds. I mean words.
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#225 HNNNGH
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Yet again...in the real world...words have meaning. You can't change the meaning to suit your needs.LJS9502_basic
1. What determines word meanings? 2. How do you account for the change in word meanings over time?
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Yet again...in the real world...words have meaning. You can't change the meaning to suit your needs.HNNNGH
1. What determines word meanings? 2. How do you account for the change in word meanings over time?

Word changes over time is not the same thing as individual A deciding he doesn't accept the definition of a word now is it?
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Uh... no. There's definitely the word "vulgar" right in front of that exact definition.

Silverbond

There isn't, and i provided proof... dont know where you're getting your info from?

Wiktionary?

I provided a Picture of my source, are you suggesting my picture is altered? Perhaps you just altered Wiktionary?
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[QUOTE="HNNNGH"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Yet again...in the real world...words have meaning. You can't change the meaning to suit your needs.LJS9502_basic
1. What determines word meanings? 2. How do you account for the change in word meanings over time?

Word changes over time is not the same thing as individual A deciding he doesn't accept the definition of a word now is it?

I'm using the true meaning of the word. Not the meaning that was used by racists. I am not racist, and as such would not use the word in such a manner. I suggest you stop clinging to the meanings that were senselessly attached to the word, changing it's meaning so it would demean blacks.
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#229 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] There isn't, and i provided proof... dont know where you're getting your info from?Nibroc420

Wiktionary?

I provided a Picture of my source, are you suggesting my picture is altered? Perhaps you just altered Wiktionary?

Then explain how I saw the word vulgar as well. And I'll not show a picture since that word is deservedly a moderation. Now if you were on Wiktionary as you said....then you should have seen the word. It IS your source after all that used the word vulgar. And again....you still have not responded to the fact that an actual dictionary does not agree with you.
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

I dont see it.

Perhaps you're simply relying on negative connotations? rather than the actual definition.

Nibroc420

Uh... no. There's definitely the word "vulgar" right in front of that exact definition.

There isn't, and i provided proof... dont know where you're getting your info from?

Straight from your own source: Noun n***** (plural n*****s) (vulgar, see usage notes) A dark-skinned person, especially a person of, or primarily of, Negro descent.  [quotations ▼] (slang, often considered offensive) A person of Negro descent who acts in an unapproved manner, usually as a badass.  [quotations ▼] (African American Vernacular) Informal term of address.  [quotations ▼] Usage notes Today "n*****" is one of the most offensive words in the English language, though it has also been reclaimed by some persons of African descent. Its use is contentious and fraught, particularly when used by non-blacks. "N******" has taken on pejorative qualities, as it implies not only darkness of skin, but a general lack of intelligence and sophistication. At the time of the word's origin, various English-speaking North American settlers who set cultural standards considered black people fundamentally inferior and less civilized than white people. The term is generally considered offensive to black people, not only because it singles them out on the basis of their skin colour, but also because, due to its origin, it carries connotations of slavery, inferiority and oppression. The term is generally derogatory when used by persons not of African descent (and sometimes when used by persons of African descent), but, it is also used by some black people among themselves, positively, especially when used in the form of "n***a," in a form of reclamation. It is important to note that many people do not believe that "n*****" is able to be reclaimed, because of its fraught history and continued pejorative usage. Usage by non-blacks, however, is almost invariably considered offensive. Thus, the term is both potentially liberatory while also being highly contested. In its pejorative sense, it arguably ranks as the most insulting racial epithet in the English language, with strong connotations of cultural and intellectual inferiority or deficiency. The controversial nature of the word makes it unacceptable for use in most modern mainstream American media. The word is usually censored in direct quotations or euphemistically referred to as the "n-word" to blunt its potential negative impact.
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] There isn't, and i provided proof... dont know where you're getting your info from?Nibroc420

Wiktionary?

I provided a Picture of my source, are you suggesting my picture is altered? Perhaps you just altered Wiktionary?

Me and LJ both see "vulgar" and only you don't.

Something is wrong on your end.

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#232 HNNNGH
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[QUOTE="HNNNGH"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Yet again...in the real world...words have meaning. You can't change the meaning to suit your needs.LJS9502_basic
1. What determines word meanings? 2. How do you account for the change in word meanings over time?

Word changes over time is not the same thing as individual A deciding he doesn't accept the definition of a word now is it?

You have answered neither question. Try again y/n
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Uh... no. There's definitely the word "vulgar" right in front of that exact definition.

bigdcstile

There isn't, and i provided proof... dont know where you're getting your info from?

Straight from your own source: Noun n***** (plural n*****s) (vulgar, see usage notes) A dark-skinned person, especially a person of, or primarily of, Negro descent. [quotations ▼] (slang, often considered offensive) A person of Negro descent who acts in an unapproved manner, usually as a badass. [quotations ▼] (African American Vernacular) Informal term of address. [quotations ▼] Usage notes Today "n*****" is one of the most offensive words in the English language, though it has also been reclaimed by some persons of African descent. Its use is contentious and fraught, particularly when used by non-blacks. "N******" has taken on pejorative qualities, as it implies not only darkness of skin, but a general lack of intelligence and sophistication. At the time of the word's origin, various English-speaking North American settlers who set cultural standards considered black people fundamentally inferior and less civilized than white people. The term is generally considered offensive to black people, not only because it singles them out on the basis of their skin colour, but also because, due to its origin, it carries connotations of slavery, inferiority and oppression. The term is generally derogatory when used by persons not of African descent (and sometimes when used by persons of African descent), but, it is also used by some black people among themselves, positively, especially when used in the form of "n***a," in a form of reclamation. It is important to note that many people do not believe that "n*****" is able to be reclaimed, because of its fraught history and continued pejorative usage. Usage by non-blacks, however, is almost invariably considered offensive. Thus, the term is both potentially liberatory while also being highly contested. In its pejorative sense, it arguably ranks as the most insulting racial epithet in the English language, with strong connotations of cultural and intellectual inferiority or deficiency. The controversial nature of the word makes it unacceptable for use in most modern mainstream American media. The word is usually censored in direct quotations or euphemistically referred to as the "n-word" to blunt its potential negative impact.

Please find a source that is NOT supported by those who wish to change the definition of "Black Person" to mean something negative.

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#235 LJS9502_basic
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[Please find a source that is NOT supported by those who wish to change the definition of "Black Person" to mean something negative.

Nibroc420

:lol: That is YOUR source...

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="HNNNGH"]1. What determines word meanings? 2. How do you account for the change in word meanings over time?Nibroc420
Word changes over time is not the same thing as individual A deciding he doesn't accept the definition of a word now is it?

I'm using the true meaning of the word. Not the meaning that was used by racists. I am not racist, and as such would not use the word in such a manner. I suggest you stop clinging to the meanings that were senselessly attached to the word, changing it's meaning so it would demean blacks.

If the word is created by racists in an attempt to demean and dehumanize blacks (notice, it's n***** and not negro, which, for all intents and purposes intended to mean 'black') then there is no other meaning than that. You can try and 'create' a NEW meaning, but the original meaning is derogatory, no matter how you try to, weakly, debate it.
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Wiktionary?

Silverbond

I provided a Picture of my source, are you suggesting my picture is altered? Perhaps you just altered Wiktionary?

Me and LJ both see "vulgar" and only you don't.

Something is wrong on your end.

I see vulgur as well. the screen cap he posted isn't even in the same layout as the page he linked to.
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Wiktionary?

Silverbond

I provided a Picture of my source, are you suggesting my picture is altered? Perhaps you just altered Wiktionary?

Me and LJ both see "vulgar" and only you don't.

Something is wrong on your end.

Please point it out for me?

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[QUOTE="bigdcstile"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] There isn't, and i provided proof... dont know where you're getting your info from?Nibroc420

Straight from your own source: Noun n***** (plural n*****s) (vulgar, see usage notes) A dark-skinned person, especially a person of, or primarily of, Negro descent. [quotations ▼] (slang, often considered offensive) A person of Negro descent who acts in an unapproved manner, usually as a badass. [quotations ▼] (African American Vernacular) Informal term of address. [quotations ▼] Usage notes Today "n*****" is one of the most offensive words in the English language, though it has also been reclaimed by some persons of African descent. Its use is contentious and fraught, particularly when used by non-blacks. "N******" has taken on pejorative qualities, as it implies not only darkness of skin, but a general lack of intelligence and sophistication. At the time of the word's origin, various English-speaking North American settlers who set cultural standards considered black people fundamentally inferior and less civilized than white people. The term is generally considered offensive to black people, not only because it singles them out on the basis of their skin colour, but also because, due to its origin, it carries connotations of slavery, inferiority and oppression. The term is generally derogatory when used by persons not of African descent (and sometimes when used by persons of African descent), but, it is also used by some black people among themselves, positively, especially when used in the form of "n***a," in a form of reclamation. It is important to note that many people do not believe that "n*****" is able to be reclaimed, because of its fraught history and continued pejorative usage. Usage by non-blacks, however, is almost invariably considered offensive. Thus, the term is both potentially liberatory while also being highly contested. In its pejorative sense, it arguably ranks as the most insulting racial epithet in the English language, with strong connotations of cultural and intellectual inferiority or deficiency. The controversial nature of the word makes it unacceptable for use in most modern mainstream American media. The word is usually censored in direct quotations or euphemistically referred to as the "n-word" to blunt its potential negative impact.

Please find a source that is NOT supported by those who wish to change the definition of "Black Person" to mean something negative.

And you wonder why people call you a troll. :roll:
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#240 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="HNNNGH"]1. What determines word meanings? 2. How do you account for the change in word meanings over time?Nibroc420
Word changes over time is not the same thing as individual A deciding he doesn't accept the definition of a word now is it?

I'm using the true meaning of the word. Not the meaning that was used by racists. I am not racist, and as such would not use the word in such a manner. I suggest you stop clinging to the meanings that were senselessly attached to the word, changing it's meaning so it would demean blacks.

No you are using the meaning of negro. The other word has ALWAYS been pejorative...
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#241 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Word changes over time is not the same thing as individual A deciding he doesn't accept the definition of a word now is it?bigdcstile
I'm using the true meaning of the word. Not the meaning that was used by racists. I am not racist, and as such would not use the word in such a manner. I suggest you stop clinging to the meanings that were senselessly attached to the word, changing it's meaning so it would demean blacks.

If the word is created by racists in an attempt to demean and dehumanize blacks (notice, it's n***** and not negro, which, for all intents and purposes intended to mean 'black') then there is no other meaning than that. You can try and 'create' a NEW meaning, but the original meaning is derogatory, no matter how you try to, weakly, debate it.

The word was not created by racists.

The Denotation(dictionary meaning) is : Black person, negro, african american.

the Connotation(meaning given to the word by racists) is offensive, yes. However i wish to simply ignore this connotation, as it does not accurately represent the true definition of the word.

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#242 bigdcstile
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] I provided a Picture of my source, are you suggesting my picture is altered? Perhaps you just altered Wiktionary?Nibroc420

Me and LJ both see "vulgar" and only you don't.

Something is wrong on your end.

Please point it out for me?

It's called going to the original webpage. Dude, you're trying oh so very hard to ty and twist thte world into proving you right when, a simple click on the very link IN YOUR PICTURE!!!! disproves you.

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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] I provided a Picture of my source, are you suggesting my picture is altered? Perhaps you just altered Wiktionary?Nibroc420

Me and LJ both see "vulgar" and only you don't.

Something is wrong on your end.

Please point it out for me?

Here

n*****

  1. (vulgar, see usage notes) A dark-skinned person, especially a person of, or primarily of, Negro descent. [quotations ▼]
    • Huckleberry Finn, in the eponymous novel by Mark Twain. It was fifteen minutes before I could work myself up to go and humble myself to a n****; but I done it[sic], and I warn't[sic] ever sorry for it afterwards, neither. I didn't do him no more mean tricks, and I wouldn't done that[sic] one if I'd a knowed[sic] it would make him feel that way.
    • 1888, Rudyard Kipling, 'On the City Wall', In Black and White, Folio Society 2005, p. 435: The Captain was not a nice man. He called all natives 'n******', which, besides being extreme bad form, shows gross ignorance.
    • Hotel RwandaYou are not even n*****, you are Africans.
  2. (slang, often considered offensive) A person of Negro descent who acts in an unapproved manner, usually as a badass. [quotations ▼]
    • Chris RockI love black people, but I hate n*****
  3. (African American Vernacular) Informal term of address.

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#244 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Me and LJ both see "vulgar" and only you don't.

Something is wrong on your end.

bigdcstile

Please point it out for me?

It's called going to the original webpage. Dude, you're trying oh so very hard to ty and twist thte world into proving you right when, a simple click on the very link IN YOUR PICTURE!!!! disproves you.

You can't click my picture. So you're wrong there. I provided no link, please do not make it out like i did.

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#245 bigdcstile
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[QUOTE="bigdcstile"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] I'm using the true meaning of the word. Not the meaning that was used by racists. I am not racist, and as such would not use the word in such a manner. I suggest you stop clinging to the meanings that were senselessly attached to the word, changing it's meaning so it would demean blacks.Nibroc420

If the word is created by racists in an attempt to demean and dehumanize blacks (notice, it's n***** and not negro, which, for all intents and purposes intended to mean 'black') then there is no other meaning than that. You can try and 'create' a NEW meaning, but the original meaning is derogatory, no matter how you try to, weakly, debate it.

The word was not created by racists.

The Denotation(dictionary meaning) is : Black person, negro, african american.

the Connotation(meaning given to the word by racists) is offensive, yes. However i wish to simply ignore this connotation, as it does not accurately represent the true definition of the word.

Dude, even your own link (you know the one that you use to prove your point... despite the fact that, not even hard digging shows that it disproves your point. Right there in the usage notes) gives the history of the word and it in, no way shape or form, was created to simply 'describe a black person' full stop. It was used as a derogatory term from day one. Prove otherwise.
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[QUOTE="bigdcstile"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

Please point it out for me?

Nibroc420

It's called going to the original webpage. Dude, you're trying oh so very hard to ty and twist thte world into proving you right when, a simple click on the very link IN YOUR PICTURE!!!! disproves you.

You can't click my picture. So you're wrong there. I provided no link, please do not make it out like i did.

What site is that screencap taken from? You said wikionary but the wikionary page is as I posted above

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[QUOTE="bigdcstile"]

It's called going to the original webpage. Dude, you're trying oh so very hard to ty and twist thte world into proving you right when, a simple click on the very link IN YOUR PICTURE!!!! disproves you.

Nibroc420

You can't click my picture. So you're wrong there. I provided no link, please do not make it out like i did.

You can't be serious.

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#248 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="bigdcstile"] It's called going to the original webpage. Dude, you're trying oh so very hard to ty and twist thte world into proving you right when, a simple click on the very link IN YOUR PICTURE!!!! disproves you.

toast_burner

You can't click my picture. So you're wrong there. I provided no link, please do not make it out like i did.

What site is that screencap taken from? You said wikionary but the wikionary page is as I posted above

Google Search, "Define: N*****" (obviously without the *'s)

Although as you can see below it, it's source is wikitonary.

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#249 bigdcstile
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[QUOTE="bigdcstile"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

Please point it out for me?

Nibroc420

It's called going to the original webpage. Dude, you're trying oh so very hard to ty and twist thte world into proving you right when, a simple click on the very link IN YOUR PICTURE!!!! disproves you.

You can't click my picture. So you're wrong there. I provided no link, please do not make it out like i did.

Are you dense? Fine, then, type in the URL of your own source. You know? The one you so keenly tried to cut off at the bottom.

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#250 LJS9502_basic
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I provided no link, please do not make it out like i did.

Nibroc420

You said Wiktionary....I put up Wiktionary...typed in the word...and got vulgar before the definition. Which means your own link does not support your stance.