Do you think 9/11 was an inside job? (poll)

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#51 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"] For one, the fake 2007 osama bin laden video. It didn't even look close like the real Osama. You know the government was toying with us to support the war 17 out of the 19 hijackers weren't Of course Al Qaeda is going to claim responsibility, that just means they want publicity. terrorist groups take credit for attacks all the time. Shortly after the attacks and before the FBI had released the pictures of all the hijackers, several reports appeared claiming that some of the men named as hijackers on 9/11 were aliveSNESbeatsps3360

1. Prove it was fake.

2. Prove the hijackers claim. What about the two that WERE Al Qaeda?

3. What reports? What's trustworthy about them?

This is ridiculous.

2 out of 19...

Prove that. . .and why was Al Qaeda involved AT ALL?

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#52 deactivated-5a84f3399aa1c
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I've never understood how people can look at the breadth of evidence contradicting 9/11 thoeries and still stand by them. They're as idiotic as moon landing theorists and as delusional as Holocaust deniers.
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#53 deepdreamer256
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"] For one, the fake 2007 osama bin laden video. It didn't even look close like the real Osama. You know the government was toying with us to support the war 17 out of the 19 hijackers weren't Of course Al Qaeda is going to claim responsibility, that just means they want publicity. terrorist groups take credit for attacks all the time. Shortly after the attacks and before the FBI had released the pictures of all the hijackers, several reports appeared claiming that some of the men named as hijackers on 9/11 were aliveSNESbeatsps3360

1. Prove it was fake.

2. Prove the hijackers claim. What about the two that WERE Al Qaeda?

3. What reports? What's trustworthy about them?

This is ridiculous.

2 out of 19...

Even if they are alive, that doesn't necesarrily mean the information the FBI had obtained was completely reliable . . .
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#55 Theokhoth
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Terrorist groups often take credit for somebody "else's" attacks, that's how they gain publicity.SNESbeatsps3360

Yes, and then when the entire world rains hell upon them, their countries, their hideouts and their officials they tend to go "It wasn't us! Honest!"

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#56 scorch-62
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Terrorist groups often take credit for somebody "else's" attacks, that's how they gain publicity.SNESbeatsps3360
Prove it.
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#57 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"] 2 out of 19...SNESbeatsps3360

Prove that. . .and why was Al Qaeda involved AT ALL?

why do u think

Because Al Qaeda caused 9/11. Your crazy theory makes no sense. It's incoherent; one minute Al Qaeda didn't do it, and then next minute they did? Give me a break. :lol:

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#58 SNESbeatsps3360
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[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"]Terrorist groups often take credit for somebody "else's" attacks, that's how they gain publicity.scorch-62
Prove it.

many people were claiming to be the Zodiac Killer back in the 60's, and wanted publicity. Yet they were nobody
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#59 Silverbond
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Speaking as a Reptilian I would like to say that we are in no way affiliated with the events of 9/11. We suggest that you just agree that it was a terrorist attack.

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#60 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"]Terrorist groups often take credit for somebody "else's" attacks, that's how they gain publicity.SNESbeatsps3360
Prove it.

many people were claiming to be the Zodiac Killer back in the 60's, and wanted publicity. Yet they were nobody

The Zodiac Killer didn't kill 3,000 people or knock down two very important federal buildings, nor did they continue to claim to be the Zodiac Killer after they were arrested and tossed in jail for a while.

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#61 SNESbeatsps3360
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[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Prove that. . .and why was Al Qaeda involved AT ALL?

Theokhoth

why do u think

Because Al Qaeda caused 9/11. Your crazy theory makes no sense. It's incoherent; one minute Al Qaeda didn't do it, and then next minute they did? Give me a break. :lol:

2 out of 19 hijackers were from Al Qaeda, that means other groups were involved. Al Qaeda was targeted by Bush because they control the oil fields in afganastan. There are alot of other groups never mentioned.
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#62 deepdreamer256
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"]Terrorist groups often take credit for somebody "else's" attacks, that's how they gain publicity.SNESbeatsps3360
Prove it.

many people were claiming to be the Zodiac Killer back in the 60's, and wanted publicity. Yet they were nobody

That happens with all murder cases that get publicity, but that's non-murderers trying to claim they comitted a crime, which is different.
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"]Terrorist groups often take credit for somebody "else's" attacks, that's how they gain publicity.SNESbeatsps3360
Prove it.

many people were claiming to be the Zodiac Killer back in the 60's, and wanted publicity. Yet they were nobody

So the citizens of the US are all members of terrorist organizations?
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#64 SNESbeatsps3360
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[QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] Prove it.

many people were claiming to be the Zodiac Killer back in the 60's, and wanted publicity. Yet they were nobody

That happens with all murder cases that get publicity, but that's non-murderers trying to claim they comitted a crime, which is different.

it's the same, a terrorist group like Al Qaeda could bomb one place, then let another group bomb, and take credit for it. the whole purpose of a terrorist group is publicity, the real terrorists aren't hiding behind a name.
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#65 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"] why do u thinkSNESbeatsps3360

Because Al Qaeda caused 9/11. Your crazy theory makes no sense. It's incoherent; one minute Al Qaeda didn't do it, and then next minute they did? Give me a break. :lol:

2 out of 19 hijackers were from Al Qaeda, that means other groups were involved. Al Qaeda was targeted by Bush because they control the oil fields in afganastan. There are alot of other groups never mentioned.

You haven't even proven that 2 out of the 19 hijackers were from Al Qaeda. :lol:

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#66 SNESbeatsps3360
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[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Because Al Qaeda caused 9/11. Your crazy theory makes no sense. It's incoherent; one minute Al Qaeda didn't do it, and then next minute they did? Give me a break. :lol:

Theokhoth

2 out of 19 hijackers were from Al Qaeda, that means other groups were involved. Al Qaeda was targeted by Bush because they control the oil fields in afganastan. There are alot of other groups never mentioned.

You haven't even proven that 2 out of the 19 hijackers were from Al Qaeda. :lol:

and where's you're proof that they are?
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#67 scorch-62
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it's the same, a terrorist group like Al Qaeda could bomb one place, then let another group bomb, and take credit for it.SNESbeatsps3360
But they still bombed a place. In this scenario, they bombed a place, but with the allegiance of another organization. In your original scenario, Al-Qaeda had nothing to do with it. :?
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#68 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"] 2 out of 19 hijackers were from Al Qaeda, that means other groups were involved. Al Qaeda was targeted by Bush because they control the oil fields in afganastan. There are alot of other groups never mentioned.SNESbeatsps3360

You haven't even proven that 2 out of the 19 hijackers were from Al Qaeda. :lol:

and where's you're proof that they are?

I'm not the one making the claim here. My proof lies in Al Qaeda taking responsibility for the attacks, along with the other fifty mountains of proof that have surfaced since 9/11. Where's yours?

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"] 2 out of 19 hijackers were from Al Qaeda, that means other groups were involved. Al Qaeda was targeted by Bush because they control the oil fields in afganastan. There are alot of other groups never mentioned.SNESbeatsps3360

You haven't even proven that 2 out of the 19 hijackers were from Al Qaeda. :lol:

and where's you're proof that they are?

Al Qaeda claimed credit....

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[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"]it's the same, a terrorist group like Al Qaeda could bomb one place, then let another group bomb, and take credit for it.scorch-62
But they still bombed a place. In this scenario, they bombed a place, but with the allegiance of another organization. In your original scenario, Al-Qaeda had nothing to do with it. :?

they probably didn't considering most of the hijackers weren't from Al-Qaeda, it just happens to be 2 of the hijackers were in it. there should be an explanation for the hijacker from egypt or other countries, but there isn;t
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#71 SNESbeatsps3360
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[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

You haven't even proven that 2 out of the 19 hijackers were from Al Qaeda. :lol:

LJS9502_basic

and where's you're proof that they are?

Al Qaeda claimed credit....

that's not proof. terrorist groups claim credit all the time
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#72 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"] and where's you're proof that they are?SNESbeatsps3360

Al Qaeda claimed credit....

that's not proof. terrorist groups claim credit all the time

Prove they didn't do it.
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#73 SNESbeatsps3360
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prove they did
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#74 MrPraline
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You first! >_>
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#75 Theokhoth
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prove they didSNESbeatsps3360

Al Qaeda: "We did it."

FBI: "Al Qaeda did it."

Europe: "Al Qaeda did it."

Afghanistan: "Al Qaeda did it."

Your turn.

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#76 -Chimera-
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Apparently SNESbeatsps3360 doesn't understand the concept of the burden of proof. This argument is pretty funny to watch.
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#77 SNESbeatsps3360
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[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"]prove they didTheokhoth

Al Qaeda: "We did it."

FBI: "Al Qaeda did it."

Europe: "Al Qaeda did it."

Afghanistan: "Al Qaeda did it."

Your turn.

Al Qaeda never said they did it, they just declared a Jihad after the fact. FBI says they did it, for oil. your turn
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"]prove they didSNESbeatsps3360

Al Qaeda: "We did it."

FBI: "Al Qaeda did it."

Europe: "Al Qaeda did it."

Afghanistan: "Al Qaeda did it."

Your turn.

Al Qaeda never said they did it, they just declared a Jihad after the fact. FBI says they did it, for oil.

No, they didn't. YOU'RE the one saying they did it.
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#79 SNESbeatsps3360
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how can u trust the FBI and CIA after the whole Iraq Weapons of Mass Destruction scandal. There is no proof that Al Qaeda did it. FBI is angry at Al Qaeda for burning the oil fields, so they pin it on them
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#80 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"]prove they didSNESbeatsps3360

Al Qaeda: "We did it."

FBI: "Al Qaeda did it."

Europe: "Al Qaeda did it."

Afghanistan: "Al Qaeda did it."

Your turn.

Al Qaeda never said they did it, they just declared a Jihad after the fact. FBI says they did it, for oil. your turn

Bin Laden Takes Responsibility for 9/11 Attacks in New Tape

That was back in 2004.

The FBI never said anything like that.

You have yet to prove anything.

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#81 SNESbeatsps3360
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[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Al Qaeda: "We did it."

FBI: "Al Qaeda did it."

Europe: "Al Qaeda did it."

Afghanistan: "Al Qaeda did it."

Your turn.

Theokhoth

Al Qaeda never said they did it, they just declared a Jihad after the fact. FBI says they did it, for oil. your turn

Bin Laden Takes Responsibility for 9/11 Attacks in New Tape

That was back in 2004.

The FBI never said anything like that.

u believe that tape? u actually believe that tape from 2004?
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#82 SavageM2
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Glad to see this thread went somewhere...:lol:

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#83 deepdreamer256
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[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"] many people were claiming to be the Zodiac Killer back in the 60's, and wanted publicity. Yet they were nobody

That happens with all murder cases that get publicity, but that's non-murderers trying to claim they comitted a crime, which is different.

it's the same, a terrorist group like Al Qaeda could bomb one place, then let another group bomb, and take credit for it. the whole purpose of a terrorist group is publicity, the real terrorists aren't hiding behind a name.

Still, you claimed that terrorist groups try to claim responsibility for other attacks all the time, but used an example of a famous murder case. You may be able to show with that that people like attention, and that some particularly mad ones make false confessions all the time with murder cases, but you haven't shown the same thing is a common occurrance in the terrorist world.
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#84 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"] Al Qaeda never said they did it, they just declared a Jihad after the fact. FBI says they did it, for oil. your turnSNESbeatsps3360

Bin Laden Takes Responsibility for 9/11 Attacks in New Tape

That was back in 2004.

The FBI never said anything like that.

u believe that tape? u actually believe that tape from 2004?

You don't? You actually believe it was fake? Based on absolutely nothing? With no proof whatsoever for your position?

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 . This is going nowhere.
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You actually believe it was fake? Based on absolutely nothing? With no proof whatsoever for your position?Theokhoth
It fits his agenda, why wouldn't he?
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#87 kingdre
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No.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"] and where's you're proof that they are?SNESbeatsps3360

Al Qaeda claimed credit....

that's not proof. terrorist groups claim credit all the time

That is YOUR opinion. Have you anything to offer to the contrary?

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[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Al Qaeda claimed credit....

LJS9502_basic

that's not proof. terrorist groups claim credit all the time

That is YOUR opinion. Have you anything to offer to the contrary?

it's not an opinion, many terrorist groups claim credit for attacks they haven't commited. if u dont know this, u need help
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[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"] it's not an opinion, many terrorist groups claim credit for attacks they haven't commited.

Examples with proof please?
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#91 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"] that's not proof. terrorist groups claim credit all the timeSNESbeatsps3360

That is YOUR opinion. Have you anything to offer to the contrary?

it's not an opinion, many terrorist groups claim credit for attacks they haven't commited. if u dont know this, u need help

Then I suppose you have proof to offer in each and every one of these cases. Go ahead....I'm waiting.:)

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i say no!!

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#93 deepdreamer256
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"] that's not proof. terrorist groups claim credit all the timeSNESbeatsps3360

That is YOUR opinion. Have you anything to offer to the contrary?

it's not an opinion, many terrorist groups claim credit for attacks they haven't commited. if u dont know this, u need help

You still haven't proved the claim that "many terrorist groups claim credit for attacks they haven't committed"
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I'm getting dumber just reading this thread. :cry:

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]That is YOUR opinion. Have you anything to offer to the contrary?

it's not an opinion, many terrorist groups claim credit for attacks they haven't commited. if u dont know this, u need help

Then I suppose you have proof to offer in each and every one of these cases. Go ahead....I'm waiting.:)

Actually i have seen many times on the news talking about how terrorist say they have done something they havnt. either way, i do not think 9/11 was an inside job
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#97 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"] it's not an opinion, many terrorist groups claim credit for attacks they haven't commited. if u dont know this, u need helppete_merlin

Then I suppose you have proof to offer in each and every one of these cases. Go ahead....I'm waiting.:)

Actually i have seen many times on the news talking about how terrorist say they have done something they havnt. either way, i do not think 9/11 was an inside job

Then if you wish to provide his proof....do so. I don't want murky comments.

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[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]SNESbeatsps3360
Why did you delete the 'proof'?
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#99 LZ71
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Glad to see this thread went somewhere...:lol:

SavageM2
:lol: I know. All it takes is one stubborn CT to turn a thread like this into a endless debate.
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#100 th3warr1or
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Not in the conventional sense, but I think the Govt received a tip-off, but ignored it.