Do you think 9/11 was an inside job? (poll)

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#101 LJS9502_basic
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[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]SNESbeatsps3360
Which in essence means you have no proof to offer :lol:

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#103 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]deepdreamer256
Why did you delete the 'proof'?

Because I've explained how it doesn't work?

That has never stopped them before. :lol:
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#104 scorch-62
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how can u trust the FBI and CIA after the whole Iraq Weapons of Mass Destruction scandal.SNESbeatsps3360
That was Bush claiming truth in reports from someone that was questioned. The person never said anything about WMDs.
The only people who said that there were WMDs in Iraq were Bush and some of the department secretaries.

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#105 deepdreamer256
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="MrPraline"] Why did you delete the 'proof'?

Because I've explained how it doesn't work?

That has never stopped them before. :lol:

Ah, sorry, I was thinking of a different topic.
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#106 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"] Because I've explained how it doesn't work?

That has never stopped them before. :lol:

Ah, sorry, I was thinking of a different topic.

Oh, well the comment would've worked in this thread as well. Everybody explained why it makes no sense; but it doesn't stop him.
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#107 PannicAtack
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No. The conspiracy theories are ridiculous.
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#108 SNESbeatsps3360
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No. The conspiracy theories are ridiculous.PannicAtack
especially the mainstream media's
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#109 deepdreamer256
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]No. The conspiracy theories are ridiculous.SNESbeatsps3360
especially the mainstream media's

Once again, are you planning on providing a proper counter-argument any time soon?
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#110 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]No. The conspiracy theories are ridiculous.SNESbeatsps3360
especially the mainstream media's

Ahh, the old "the official explanation is the conspiracy theory!" Classic deflection. No, an accepted explanation is not a conspiracy theory. You are the conspiracy theorist, not us.

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#111 SNESbeatsps3360
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you guys just can't see past ure tv screens, it's rediculous
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#112 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"] the official explanation is the conspiracy theory here

Oh really? Where's the shadow government? The secret society? The government?

Self quote because he brought up the same argument again.
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#113 PannicAtack
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At least I use proper spelling and capitalization.
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#114 klusps
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No, I don't believe in the conspiracy theories of 9/11.

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#115 MrPraline
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you guys just can't see past ure tv screens, it's rediculousSNESbeatsps3360
I'm not a tv screen. :cry:
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#116 LZ71
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you guys just can't see past ure tv screens, it's rediculousSNESbeatsps3360
And apparently you can't see past your rediculous theories, no matter how much evidence is used to debunk them.
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#117 PannicAtack
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you guys just can't see past ure tv screens, it's rediculousSNESbeatsps3360
Do you have an argument to present? Then present it. You're self-righteous "You're all blind sheep!" argument isn't fooling anyone. You are simply making yourself look petty.
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#118 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]No. The conspiracy theories are ridiculous.SNESbeatsps3360
especially the mainstream media's

Still waiting on some facts from you.....

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#119 deepdreamer256
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you guys just can't see past ure tv screens, it's rediculousSNESbeatsps3360
Petty insults won't win you the argument.
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#120 SNESbeatsps3360
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[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"]you guys just can't see past ure tv screens, it's rediculousLZ71
And apparently you can't see past your rediculous theories, no matter how much evidence is used to debunk them.

there is no evidence for the offical explanation! just fake tapes
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#121 SunofVich
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Anyone who thinks it was an inside job is a moron.

Yes Bush and his pals were a bunch of crazy hicks but they did not have enough intelligence to pull something like this off.

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#122 deepdreamer256
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[QUOTE="LZ71"][QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"]you guys just can't see past ure tv screens, it's rediculousSNESbeatsps3360
And apparently you can't see past your rediculous theories, no matter how much evidence is used to debunk them.

there is no evidence for the offical explanation! just fake tapes

We've already countered this claim with evidence in prior pages. The burden of proof still lies with you.
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#123 PannicAtack
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Let's look at the first point you raised - WTC7 You say it couldn't fall without something hitting it? Debris from the falling towers is certainly "something hitting it." For that matter, NIST published a lengthy, peer-reviewed analysis of the collapse, and found nothing off. What makes you think you know better than NIST, a highly reputable body, which consists of experienced physicists and structural engineers, some of which are Nobel laureates?
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#124 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"] it's not an opinion, many terrorist groups claim credit for attacks they haven't commited.

Examples with proof please?

We're still waiting, SNESbeatsps3360.
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#125 b3yondstupidity
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No, I don't see how America or the world has benefited in any way from it. kruesader
I heard the owner got insurance money, and must have been loads. - But I myself don't know.
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#126 -Chimera-
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Okay, this guy has to be a troll.
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#128 Moon1ightShadow
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This would have required hundreds if not thousands of people to pull off, and ALL of them have kept quiet about it. At least the fake moon landing people had Bill Kaysing. The Truthers don't have a single person. Surely *someone* would have something. Especially now that Bush is gone.
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#129 deepdreamer256
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[QUOTE="kruesader"]No, I don't see how America or the world has benefited in any way from it. b3yondstupidity
I heard the owner got insurance money, and must have been loads. - But I myself don't know.

What? Wasn't he already getting rent? XD
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#130 deepdreamer256
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Okay, this guy has to be a troll.-Chimera-
Wasn't this obvious from the beginning?
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#131 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="b3yondstupidity"][QUOTE="kruesader"]No, I don't see how America or the world has benefited in any way from it. deepdreamer256
I heard the owner got insurance money, and must have been loads. - But I myself don't know.

What? Wasn't he already getting rent? XD

Yes. Lost business and going broke trying to rebuild? Worst. Insurance Fraud. Ever.
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#132 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="-Chimera-"]Okay, this guy has to be a troll.deepdreamer256
Wasn't this obvious from the beginning?

You can never tell.
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#133 -Chimera-
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[QUOTE="-Chimera-"]Okay, this guy has to be a troll.deepdreamer256
Wasn't this obvious from the beginning?

Well yeah, that's part of why I chose to stay out of the argument, since it would be a waste of time. It's just that I wasn't completely sure, since you never really know what to expect from people that actually believe this crap.
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#134 deepdreamer256
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="b3yondstupidity"] I heard the owner got insurance money, and must have been loads. - But I myself don't know.

What? Wasn't he already getting rent? XD

Yes. Lost business and going broke trying to rebuild? Worst. Insurance Fraud. Ever.

In other words, that (as I know) rather important claim - that this 'owner' guy would have benefited from the attacks - is completely debunked.
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#135 SNESbeatsps3360
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i'm not trolling, i'm answering the op's question, but you guys can't handle the truth
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#136 PannicAtack
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i'm not trolling, i'm answering the op's question, but you guys can't handle the truthSNESbeatsps3360
[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Let's look at the first point you raised - WTC7 You say it couldn't fall without something hitting it? Debris from the falling towers is certainly "something hitting it." For that matter, NIST published a lengthy, peer-reviewed analysis of the collapse, and found nothing off. What makes you think you know better than NIST, a highly reputable body, which consists of experienced physicists and structural engineers, some of which are Nobel laureates?

Answer me, please.
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#137 SNESbeatsps3360
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[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"]i'm not trolling, i'm answering the op's question, but you guys can't handle the truthPannicAtack
[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Let's look at the first point you raised - WTC7 You say it couldn't fall without something hitting it? Debris from the falling towers is certainly "something hitting it." For that matter, NIST published a lengthy, peer-reviewed analysis of the collapse, and found nothing off. What makes you think you know better than NIST, a highly reputable body, which consists of experienced physicists and structural engineers, some of which are Nobel laureates?

Answer me, please.

if debris was the cuz of the fall, then the ceiling would've been crushed from the start. WTC7 collapsed all at once, and that doesn;'t make sense.
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#138 deepdreamer256
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i'm not trolling, i'm answering the op's question, but you guys can't handle the truthSNESbeatsps3360
It's not the truth until you've proved it is. And you haven't. At all.
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#139 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"] [QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Let's look at the first point you raised - WTC7 You say it couldn't fall without something hitting it? Debris from the falling towers is certainly "something hitting it." For that matter, NIST published a lengthy, peer-reviewed analysis of the collapse, and found nothing off. What makes you think you know better than NIST, a highly reputable body, which consists of experienced physicists and structural engineers, some of which are Nobel laureates?SNESbeatsps3360
Answer me, please.

if debris was the cuz of the fall, then the ceiling would've been crushed from the start. WTC7 collapsed all at once, and that doesn;'t make sense.

Where the building is damaged depends on where it's hit. Most of the debris that hit WTC7 hit the side.

And in any case, that doesn't answer my question. What makes you think you know better than NIST?

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#140 mr_poodles123
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Anyone who said yes is a retard or is trying to be funny.

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#141 deepdreamer256
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[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"] [QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Let's look at the first point you raised - WTC7 You say it couldn't fall without something hitting it? Debris from the falling towers is certainly "something hitting it." For that matter, NIST published a lengthy, peer-reviewed analysis of the collapse, and found nothing off. What makes you think you know better than NIST, a highly reputable body, which consists of experienced physicists and structural engineers, some of which are Nobel laureates?

if debris was the cuz of the fall, then the ceiling would've been crushed from the start. WTC7 collapsed all at once, and that doesn;'t make sense.

Okay, first, what does the ceiling have to with anything? (Your point there is very incoherent.) Secondly, in what way does it not make sense?
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#142 chessmaster1989
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i'm not trolling, i'm answering the op's question, but you guys can't handle the truthSNESbeatsps3360

You wouldn't happen to be Jack Nicholson, would you?

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#143 Solid_Tango
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Yes, why? -The money that were in the towers were sendt to other banks a bit before the accident -NO ONE important died ( president of a company, chairmen etc) -Perfect excuse to invade Middle east and steal their Oil. Could go on all day....
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#144 SNESbeatsps3360
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[QUOTE="Solid_Tango"]Yes, why? -The money that were in the towers were sendt to other banks a bit before the accident -NO ONE important died ( president of a company, chairmen etc) -Perfect excuse to invade Middle east and steal their Oil. Could go on all day....

finally, someone here agrees with me, i've had so many pages of nonsense flaming towards me
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Yes, why? -The money that were in the towers were sendt to other banks a bit before the accident -NO ONE important died ( president of a company, chairmen etc) -Perfect excuse to invade Middle east and steal their Oil. Could go on all day....Solid_Tango
Er...you know it was the WMD's that was the reason for the war....right?:|

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#146 chessmaster1989
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Oh, and, to answer the OP, no, I don't think it was an inside job. Basically all of the claims of 9/11 conspiracy theorists have been debunked.
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#147 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Solid_Tango"]Yes, why? -The money that were in the towers were sendt to other banks a bit before the accident -NO ONE important died ( president of a company, chairmen etc) -Perfect excuse to invade Middle east and steal their Oil. Could go on all day....SNESbeatsps3360
finally, someone here agrees with me, i've had so many pages of nonsense flaming towards me

Except he is not using the facts....

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#148 chessmaster1989
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Yes, why? -The money that were in the towers were sendt to other banks a bit before the accident -NO ONE important died ( president of a company, chairmen etc) -Perfect excuse to invade Middle east and steal their Oil. Could go on all day....Solid_Tango

You know, I hated George Bush as a president, but I would never even consider that he would kill thousands of Americans to have an excuse to invade a foreign country...

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#149 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="SNESbeatsps3360"][QUOTE="Solid_Tango"]Yes, why? -The money that were in the towers were sendt to other banks a bit before the accident -NO ONE important died ( president of a company, chairmen etc) -Perfect excuse to invade Middle east and steal their Oil. Could go on all day....

finally, someone here agrees with me, i've had so many pages of nonsense flaming towards me

We haven't been flaming. You've just throwing around nonsense arguments and petty whining.
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#150 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="Solid_Tango"]Yes, why? -The money that were in the towers were sendt to other banks a bit before the accident -NO ONE important died ( president of a company, chairmen etc) -Perfect excuse to invade Middle east and steal their Oil. Could go on all day....LJS9502_basic

Er...you know it was the WMD's that was the reason for the war....right?:|

And the "steal their oil" point? That's kinda broken, seeing how we really haven't gotten any oil.