[QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

After reading through a good 40-or-so pages of these religious dribble about morality and Hell, I think I'd be a lot happier in Hell than I would be in Heaven.

I'd rather spend eternity with the highly-intelligent minds of Aristotle, Charles Darwin, Albert Einstein, Galileo or Gandhi than spend eternity under the dictatorship of a god who justifies eternal damnation to babies, scientists, homosexuals, etc while hanging out with such awesome people like Adolf Hitler Hernán Cortés, and Mary I.

blackregiment

You think Hitler is in heaven? Too funny. You really should learn something about Christianity before you talk about it.

How do you know he isn't? What if he accepted Christ, I thought that was the only requirement?

[QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

After reading through a good 40-or-so pages of these religious dribble about morality and Hell, I think I'd be a lot happier in Hell than I would be in Heaven.

I'd rather spend eternity with the highly-intelligent minds of Aristotle, Charles Darwin, Albert Einstein, Galileo or Gandhi than spend eternity under the dictatorship of a god who justifies eternal damnation to babies, scientists, homosexuals, etc while hanging out with such awesome people like Adolf Hitler Hernán Cortés, and Mary I.

blackregiment

You think Hitler is in heaven? Too funny. You really should learn something about Christianity before you talk about it.

I have been brought up in a Christian family and have been taught in a private Christian school since I was 5 years old. I think I have a good enough understanding of it.

And yes, according to all the logic I've seen from the fundamentalists in this thread, Hitler is in heaven right now. Laughing at us. Laughing at you.

After reading through a good 40-or-so pages of these religious dribble about morality and Hell, I think I'd be a lot happier in Hell than I would be in Heaven.

I'd rather spend eternity with the highly-intelligent minds of Aristotle, Charles Darwin, Albert Einstein, Galileo or Gandhi than spend eternity under the dictatorship of a god who justifies eternal damnation to babies, scientists, homosexuals, etc while hanging out with such awesome people like Adolf Hitler Hernán Cortés, and Mary I.

-Jiggles-

Do you think, that atheists are rational for not believing in God(due to lack of proof)?

You think Hitler is in heaven? Too funny. You really should learn something about Christianity before you talk about it.

blackregiment

no you!

all sins are forgiven if you ask for it right?

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

Reject God's plan if you will He gave you a free will, then you and Ghandi can have some "warm" conversations together.

Enosh88

well I take having a chat with Ghandi over playing poker with Hitler

Don't worry, if you do not accept Christ' sacrifice in paymentt for your sins, you will get to meet Hitler Stalin, Saddam, Mao, Pol Pot, Manson, all of them.

I'm Catholic and don't believe in hell.peeviness

0_o.

How do you know he isn't? What if he accepted Christ, I thought that was the only requirement?

MindFreeze

not what if, he did, he didn't like the catholic church but he did accept Jesus and even talked about him as the first aryan fighthing against the jews

I'm Catholic and don't believe in hell.peeviness

Then you are not a practicing Catholic since Catholics are required to accept and believe all of the Church's teachings in order to be in good standing.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

After reading through a good 40-or-so pages of these religious dribble about morality and Hell, I think I'd be a lot happier in Hell than I would be in Heaven.

I'd rather spend eternity with the highly-intelligent minds of Aristotle, Charles Darwin, Albert Einstein, Galileo or Gandhi than spend eternity under the dictatorship of a god who justifies eternal damnation to babies, scientists, homosexuals, etc while hanging out with such awesome people like Adolf Hitler Hernán Cortés, and Mary I.

MindFreeze

You think Hitler is in heaven? Too funny. You really should learn something about Christianity before you talk about it.

How do you know he isn't? What if he accepted Christ, I thought that was the only requirement?

According to their compellingly-flawed logic, all you need to do is accept Jesus as your savior and you'll be "saved".

Hitler was a Christian and he used social-darwinism to slowly destroy the Jewish communities in not only Germany, but most of Europe. Many verses in the old testatment of the Bible support "ethnic cleansing" if that said group doesn't believe in their god. In other words, Hitler did nothing wrong; in fact, he did a lot of which was considered "right" in the old testatment.

And where do you think those innocent Jewish people are right now? They were stripped of their rights, clothing and valuables, sent to die in a concentration/extermination camp and now they're burning in Hell because their faith was wrong? What kind of logic is that?!

[QUOTE="peeviness"]I'm Catholic and don't believe in hell.MFaraz_Hayat

0_o.

I have a munch more liberal theory on what the after life is, and I believe Hell was created to scam early christains out of their free thinking/money.

Go ahead and crucify me.

[QUOTE="peeviness"]I'm Catholic and don't believe in hell.blackregiment

Then you are not a practicing Catholic since Catholics are required to accept and believe all of the Church's teachings in order to be in good standing.

Oh noes, is the Vatican Gestapo going to arrest me?

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

You think Hitler is in heaven? Too funny. You really should learn something about Christianity before you talk about it.

Enosh88

no you!

all sins are forgiven if you ask for it right?

We cannot judge anyone's heart, we can only see their fruits. Hitler's fruits were evil. If he accepted Christ on His deathbed and was truly repentant and sincere, then may be saved. There is no indication or evidence of that. Moth deathbed confessions are not from sincere sorry and repentance.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="peeviness"]I'm Catholic and don't believe in hell.peeviness

Then you are not a practicing Catholic since Catholics are required to accept and believe all of the Church's teachings in order to be in good standing.

Oh noes, is the Vatican Gestapo going to arrest me?

Run, my friend, before God strikes you down with a ball of fire!

If I live a good life and do good for the community in general , then I do not know why I should go to hell.

But I do not believe in it. I just think that if there was a god , then he is not going to banish me from heaven just because I did not belive in him.

[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]

[QUOTE="peeviness"]I'm Catholic and don't believe in hell.peeviness

0_o.

I have a munch more liberal theory on what the after life is, and I believe Hell was created to scam early christains out of their free thinking/money.

Go ahead and crucify me.

k, i'm bringing the tree trunk. :D

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="peeviness"]I'm Catholic and don't believe in hell.peeviness

Then you are not a practicing Catholic since Catholics are required to accept and believe all of the Church's teachings in order to be in good standing.

Oh noes, is the Vatican Gestapo going to arrest me?

I am not a Catholic. I was only relaying the teachings of the Church that you claim to be a part of. It seems to me that if you were a faithful Catholic, you would know this.

By the way, why are you making fun of your Church?

Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

If I live a good life and do good for the community in general , then I do not know why I should go to hell.

But I do not believe in it. I just think that if there was a god , then he is not going to banish me from heaven just because I did not belive in him.

dave123321

All men are sinners. The penalty for sin is eternal death. When one accepts Christ as their Lord and Savior, His righteousness is imputed to them. They are counted righteous before a just God. Christ paid the penalty for their sin. Without Christ, we pay our own price for our sins, eternal death.

Don't worry, the Lord is not going to force salvation on you. You are free to pay your own price for your sins.

[QUOTE="peeviness"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="peeviness"]I'm Catholic and don't believe in hell.-Jiggles-

Then you are not a practicing Catholic since Catholics are required to accept and believe all of the Church's teachings in order to be in good standing.

Oh noes, is the Vatican Gestapo going to arrest me?

Run, my friend, before God strikes you down with a ball of fire!

Don't worry, the Lord is not going to force salvation on you.blackregiment

He leaves that job open for his brainwashed disciples to take care of.

[QUOTE="-Jiggles-"][QUOTE="peeviness"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="peeviness"]I'm Catholic and don't believe in hell.blackregiment

Then you are not a practicing Catholic since Catholics are required to accept and believe all of the Church's teachings in order to be in good standing.

Oh noes, is the Vatican Gestapo going to arrest me?

Run, my friend, before God strikes you down with a ball of fire!

Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Gal 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

God doesn't exist.

If it doesn't consist of matter or energy, then it does not exist.

That is a law of science.

[QUOTE="MindFreeze"][QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

After reading through a good 40-or-so pages of these religious dribble about morality and Hell, I think I'd be a lot happier in Hell than I would be in Heaven.

I'd rather spend eternity with the highly-intelligent minds of Aristotle, Charles Darwin, Albert Einstein, Galileo or Gandhi than spend eternity under the dictatorship of a god who justifies eternal damnation to babies, scientists, homosexuals, etc while hanging out with such awesome people like Adolf Hitler Hernán Cortés, and Mary I.

-Jiggles-

You think Hitler is in heaven? Too funny. You really should learn something about Christianity before you talk about it.

How do you know he isn't? What if he accepted Christ, I thought that was the only requirement?

According to their compellingly-flawed logic, all you need to do is accept Jesus as your savior and you'll be "saved".

Hitler was a Christian and he used social-darwinism to slowly destroy the Jewish communities in not only Germany, but most of Europe. Many verses in the old testatment of the Bible support "ethnic cleansing" if that said group doesn't believe in their god. In other words, Hitler did nothing wrong; in fact, he did a lot of which was considered "right" in the old testatment.

And where do you think those innocent Jewish people are right now? They were stripped of their rights, clothing and valuables, sent to die in a concentration/extermination camp and now they're burning in Hell because their faith was wrong? What kind of logic is that?!

You know nothing about history or religion. Hitler was not a follower of Christ. He used and deceived the Church in Germant in His rise to power. He prosecuted Jews, Christians, gypsies, etc. He was an occultist that believed in the religion of Darwinism as justifification to create his superior race.

[QUOTE="vampiredelavega"]

I am not a atheist i'm agnostic i don't believe in organized religions but i do believe in the mayan teaching and worship. i think it depends if your a good person or bad person just don't do drugs , don't kill people, and be nice to others. besides 200 years ago. some people who were born on different islands or lands had never even heard of religions so they weren't even given a chance.

I got religions and atheists friends and i treat them with the same respect, as long as their a good friend to me i'm happy with it.

blackregiment

Following Christ is not an organized religion. It is a personal relationship with Him. You should look into it. Eternity is a looooong time.

I do believe there is a god who created the universe, nothing could only create nothing something must have always exist. i just don't beleive in religions except for the mayans. to me you just honna be a good person in life. you might be thinking anyone who don't beleive in christ will go to hell and be damned for eternity. maybe thats true or maybe its not. but people beleive what they want.

[QUOTE="peeviness"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="peeviness"]I'm Catholic and don't believe in hell.blackregiment

Then you are not a practicing Catholic since Catholics are required to accept and believe all of the Church's teachings in order to be in good standing.

Oh noes, is the Vatican Gestapo going to arrest me?

I am not a Catholic. I was only relaying the teachings of the Church that you claim to be a part of. It seems to me that if you were a faithful Catholic, you would know this.

By the way, why are you making fun of your Church?

Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

The fact that my heritage and community has "Catholic"baked into their being makes me Catholic by association I guess. No "real" religion fits my complete way of thinking, so I just prefer to go along with what my ancestors followed. This probably isn't the best argument, but I prefer Catholicism over other religions/branches of Christianity.

Also, I make fun of everything. I like to think God has a pretty good sense of humor.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"][QUOTE="peeviness"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="peeviness"]I'm Catholic and don't believe in hell.Rikusaki

Then you are not a practicing Catholic since Catholics are required to accept and believe all of the Church's teachings in order to be in good standing.

Oh noes, is the Vatican Gestapo going to arrest me?

Run, my friend, before God strikes you down with a ball of fire!

Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Gal 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

God doesn't exist.

If it doesn't consist of matter or energy, then it does not exist.

That is a law of science.

Tell that to God when you meet him face to face at judgement.

God is supernatural, a spirit, that is outside our material world. Your "faith" in science, that it will disprove God, will never happen because science is limited to the natural world.

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"][QUOTE="peeviness"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="peeviness"]I'm Catholic and don't believe in hell.blackregiment

Then you are not a practicing Catholic since Catholics are required to accept and believe all of the Church's teachings in order to be in good standing.

Oh noes, is the Vatican Gestapo going to arrest me?

Run, my friend, before God strikes you down with a ball of fire!

Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Gal 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

God doesn't exist.

If it doesn't consist of matter or energy, then it does not exist.

That is a law of science.

Tell that to God when you meet him face to face at judgement.

God is supernatural, a spirit, that is outside our material world. Your "faith" in science, that it will disprove God, will never happen because science is limited to the natural world.

I'm pretty sure God doesn't care what beings so trivial to his universe as humans think.

[QUOTE="dave123321"]

If I live a good life and do good for the community in general , then I do not know why I should go to hell.

But I do not believe in it. I just think that if there was a god , then he is not going to banish me from heaven just because I did not belive in him.

blackregiment

All men are sinners. The penalty for sin is eternal death. When one accepts Christ as their Lord and Savior, His righteousness is imputed to them. They are counted righteous before a just God. Christ paid the penalty for their sin. Without Christ, we pay our own price for our sins, eternal death.

Don't worry, the Lord is not going to force salvation on you. You are free to pay your own price for your sins.

If there is a God then you are assuming that your beliefs are the correct representation of God. You cannot really prove that you are correct in that regard. I cannot really disprove either. I respect that you believe that , but we are never really going to get anywhere by debating or what not.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="peeviness"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="peeviness"]I'm Catholic and don't believe in hell.peeviness

Then you are not a practicing Catholic since Catholics are required to accept and believe all of the Church's teachings in order to be in good standing.

Oh noes, is the Vatican Gestapo going to arrest me?

I am not a Catholic. I was only relaying the teachings of the Church that you claim to be a part of. It seems to me that if you were a faithful Catholic, you would know this.

By the way, why are you making fun of your Church?

Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

The fact that my heritage and community has "Catholic"baked into their being makes me Catholic by association I guess. No "real" religion fits my complete way of thinking, so I just prefer to go along with what my ancestors followed. This probably isn't the best argument, but I prefer Catholicism over other religions/branches of Christianity.

Also, I make fun of everything. I like to think God has a pretty good sense of humor.

The Bible references that way of thinking, following the herd. It says...

Mat 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

[QUOTE="Enosh88"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

You think Hitler is in heaven? Too funny. You really should learn something about Christianity before you talk about it.

blackregiment

no you!

all sins are forgiven if you ask for it right?

We cannot judge anyone's heart, we can only see their fruits. Hitler's fruits were evil. If he accepted Christ on His deathbed and was truly repentant and sincere, then may be saved. There is no indication or evidence of that. Moth deathbed confessions are not from sincere sorry and repentance.

sorry but it doens't matter how you judge him (anyway I think his fruits are suposed to be judged regarding the Bible (and not human morals) which didn't really speak nice things about the jews, so his actians are even justified by the bible), in the end all evidence points toward the fact that he accepted jesus which grants him a free ticket to heaven, that is by YOUR defenition of how to get in. Which no sane God would accept and is basicly only presented in christianity. Which leads to the presented moral **** up that you can do whatever the hell you want, kill as many people as you like, rape, rob, lie whatever as long as you belive in jesus and in the end repent of your sins you get into heaven. Sure the bible presents a list of morals to follow but in the end no one "up there" really give a **** about them. Which is the reason why the early church got so corrupt so fast

and now a fun fact: you know what the moto of the wehrmacht was?

The Bible references that way of thinking, following the herd. It says...

Mat 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

blackregiment

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a sheep by any means. I just feel following the religion given to me is good enough, since I don't really think it matters anyway. The places where we say our prayers just have different names, or maybe the God has a different name, but inessence theyre all the same.

You know nothing about history or religion.blackregiment

Hah, claws out today, huh? Just because I don't agree with your god doesn't mean that I'm a horrible, ignorant person, you know. You should look up the word "acceptance" sometime; isn't that what you Christians are suppose to know and do?

Hitler was not a follower of Christ.blackregiment

Yes he was.

He used and deceived the Church in Germany* in His rise to power.

blackregiment

Seems like a fad for many dictators, doesn't it?

He prosecuted Jews, Christians, gypsies, etc.blackregiment

He prosecuted the Jews and Gypsies, that much is true; doing a quick google search on if Hitler convicted Christians has deemed me no results, however. I'll just accept that much as pure conspiracy, nothing more.

He was an occultist that believed in the religion of Darwinismas justifification to create his superior race.

blackregiment

Darwinism isn't a religion. :lol:

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"][QUOTE="peeviness"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="peeviness"]I'm Catholic and don't believe in hell.blackregiment

Then you are not a practicing Catholic since Catholics are required to accept and believe all of the Church's teachings in order to be in good standing.

Oh noes, is the Vatican Gestapo going to arrest me?

Run, my friend, before God strikes you down with a ball of fire!

Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Gal 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

God doesn't exist.

If it doesn't consist of matter or energy, then it does not exist.

That is a law of science.

Tell that to God when you meet him face to face at judgement.

God is supernatural, a spirit, that is outside our material world. Your "faith" in science, that it will disprove God, will never happen because science is limited to the natural world.

Regardless in what you say, god dosent exist, you people cant think on your own and form your own ideas, you rely on your bible for facts, a book thats no better than any fantasy novel. In truth your nothing more than a mere bible thumping zombie who cant use his and stimulate your brain. And how the hell can god be considered good when in fact he has done horrible crimes, thats false advertisment right there if you ask me. At least the devil is honest in what he does.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="dave123321"]

If I live a good life and do good for the community in general , then I do not know why I should go to hell.

But I do not believe in it. I just think that if there was a god , then he is not going to banish me from heaven just because I did not belive in him.

dave123321

All men are sinners. The penalty for sin is eternal death. When one accepts Christ as their Lord and Savior, His righteousness is imputed to them. They are counted righteous before a just God. Christ paid the penalty for their sin. Without Christ, we pay our own price for our sins, eternal death.

Don't worry, the Lord is not going to force salvation on you. You are free to pay your own price for your sins.

If there is a God then you are assuming that your beliefs are the correct representation of God. You cannot really prove that you are correct in that regard. I cannot really disprove either. I respect that you believe that , but we are never really going to get anywhere by debating or what not.

I will get more results than your candidate will. You are contradicting your own logic. If you believe that, then you should change your banner.

The mistake you make is that what I am teaching is not from me. It is God's revealed Word in the Bible. God has revealed these things to His creation that they may have fellowship with Him and eternal life.

I just plant seeds and confront the lies of this world. God work s in the hearts of people to convict them of their sin and lead them to a saving knowledge of Him.

You are welcome to not read my posts.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"][QUOTE="peeviness"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="peeviness"]I'm Catholic and don't believe in hell.tzar3

Then you are not a practicing Catholic since Catholics are required to accept and believe all of the Church's teachings in order to be in good standing.

Oh noes, is the Vatican Gestapo going to arrest me?

Run, my friend, before God strikes you down with a ball of fire!

Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Gal 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

God doesn't exist.

If it doesn't consist of matter or energy, then it does not exist.

That is a law of science.

Tell that to God when you meet him face to face at judgement.

God is supernatural, a spirit, that is outside our material world. Your "faith" in science, that it will disprove God, will never happen because science is limited to the natural world.

Regardless in what you say, god dosent exist, you people cant think on your own and form your own ideas, you rely on your bible for facts, a book thats no better than any fantasy novel. In truth your nothing more than a mere bible thumping zombie who cant use his and stimulate your brain. And how the hell can god be considered good when in fact he has done horrible crimes, thats false advertisment right there if you ask me. At least the devil is honest in what he does.

It seems as if you are looking in a mirror.

[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="dave123321"]

If I live a good life and do good for the community in general , then I do not know why I should go to hell.

But I do not believe in it. I just think that if there was a god , then he is not going to banish me from heaven just because I did not belive in him.

blackregiment

All men are sinners. The penalty for sin is eternal death. When one accepts Christ as their Lord and Savior, His righteousness is imputed to them. They are counted righteous before a just God. Christ paid the penalty for their sin. Without Christ, we pay our own price for our sins, eternal death.

Don't worry, the Lord is not going to force salvation on you. You are free to pay your own price for your sins.

If there is a God then you are assuming that your beliefs are the correct representation of God. You cannot really prove that you are correct in that regard. I cannot really disprove either. I respect that you believe that , but we are never really going to get anywhere by debating or what not.

I will get more results than your candidate will. You are contradicting your own logic. If you believe that, then you should change your banner.

The mistake you make is that what I am teaching is not from me. It is God's revealed Word in the Bible. God has revealed these things to His creation that they may have fellowship with Him and eternal life.

I just plant seeds and confront the lies of this world. God work s in the hearts of people to convict them of their sin and lead them to a saving knowledge of Him.

You are welcome to not read my posts.

2Co 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Isa 44:18 They have not known nor understood: for he hath shut their eyes, that they cannot see; and their hearts, that they cannot understand.

The problem is that Bible is not the Word of God, for all.

[QUOTE="tzar3"][QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"][QUOTE="peeviness"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="peeviness"]I'm Catholic and don't believe in hell.blackregiment

Then you are not a practicing Catholic since Catholics are required to accept and believe all of the Church's teachings in order to be in good standing.

Oh noes, is the Vatican Gestapo going to arrest me?

Run, my friend, before God strikes you down with a ball of fire!

Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Gal 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

God doesn't exist.

If it doesn't consist of matter or energy, then it does not exist.

That is a law of science.

Tell that to God when you meet him face to face at judgement.

God is supernatural, a spirit, that is outside our material world. Your "faith" in science, that it will disprove God, will never happen because science is limited to the natural world.

Regardless in what you say, god dosent exist, you people cant think on your own and form your own ideas, you rely on your bible for facts, a book thats no better than any fantasy novel. In truth your nothing more than a mere bible thumping zombie who cant use his and stimulate your brain. And how the hell can god be considered good when in fact he has done horrible crimes, thats false advertisment right there if you ask me. At least the devil is honest in what he does.

It seems as if you are looking in a mirror.

Isa 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

See what I mean, always with the bible huh? Why dont you use your head buddy?

I will get more results than your candidate will. You are contradicting your own logic. If you believe that, then you should change your banner.

The mistake you make is that what I am teaching is not from me. It is God's revealed Word in the Bible. God has revealed these things to His creation that they may have fellowship with Him and eternal life.

I just plant seeds and confront the lies of this world. God work s in the hearts of people to convict them of their sin and lead them to a saving knowledge of Him.

You are welcome to not read my posts.

2Co 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Isa 44:18 They have not known nor understood: for he hath shut their eyes, that they cannot see; and their hearts, that they cannot understand. blackregiment

My "candidate" is not a real person. It is there for fun.

He was an occultist

blackregiment

hmm television and video games really made that quite a popular myth. While some nazi party members did turn to te occult, Hitler was always against it and spoke against it in poblic and in private, he even basicly made fun of fellow nazi members that turned to the occult in public and in private conversations.

and saying darwinism is a relegion is saying like there is a relegion called newtontism

[QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="tzar3"][QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"][QUOTE="peeviness"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="peeviness"]I'm Catholic and don't believe in hell.tzar3

Then you are not a practicing Catholic since Catholics are required to accept and believe all of the Church's teachings in order to be in good standing.

Oh noes, is the Vatican Gestapo going to arrest me?

Run, my friend, before God strikes you down with a ball of fire!

Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Gal 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

God doesn't exist.

If it doesn't consist of matter or energy, then it does not exist.

yet another foolish atheists i don't get it. why would you wanna say the bible is wrong? its all freakin cool when you die i'll be laughing at you from heaven while you burn in hell. read the bible and maybe then you will know what they say are true. thats why i don't like atheists their so hard headed.

That is a law of science.

Tell that to God when you meet him face to face at judgement.

God is supernatural, a spirit, that is outside our material world. Your "faith" in science, that it will disprove God, will never happen because science is limited to the natural world.

Regardless in what you say, god dosent exist, you people cant think on your own and form your own ideas, you rely on your bible for facts, a book thats no better than any fantasy novel. In truth your nothing more than a mere bible thumping zombie who cant use his and stimulate your brain. And how the hell can god be considered good when in fact he has done horrible crimes, thats false advertisment right there if you ask me. At least the devil is honest in what he does.

It seems as if you are looking in a mirror.

Isa 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

See what I mean, always with the bible huh? Why dont you use your head buddy?

[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="dave123321"]

If I live a good life and do good for the community in general , then I do not know why I should go to hell.

But I do not believe in it. I just think that if there was a god , then he is not going to banish me from heaven just because I did not belive in him.

blackregiment

All men are sinners. The penalty for sin is eternal death. When one accepts Christ as their Lord and Savior, His righteousness is imputed to them. They are counted righteous before a just God. Christ paid the penalty for their sin. Without Christ, we pay our own price for our sins, eternal death.

Don't worry, the Lord is not going to force salvation on you. You are free to pay your own price for your sins.

If there is a God then you are assuming that your beliefs are the correct representation of God. You cannot really prove that you are correct in that regard. I cannot really disprove either. I respect that you believe that , but we are never really going to get anywhere by debating or what not.

I will get more results than your candidate will. You are contradicting your own logic. If you believe that, then you should change your banner.

The mistake you make is that what I am teaching is not from me. It is God's revealed Word in the Bible. God has revealed these things to His creation that they may have fellowship with Him and eternal life.

I just plant seeds and confront the lies of this world. God work s in the hearts of people to convict them of their sin and lead them to a saving knowledge of Him.

You are welcome to not read my posts.

2Co 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Isa 44:18 They have not known nor understood: for he hath shut their eyes, that they cannot see; and their hearts, that they cannot understand.

And you are teaching under the assumption that the bible is the word of God. There is no way to prove if it is or not. I am not saying that you are right or wrong , I am just saying that we will not convince each other to believe in what the other believes in.

atheist are hard headed why do you attack the bible? you know nothing maybe if you freakin read the bible then you might beleive. seriously i don't get why athesit are like this. kinda slow i mean well enjoy hell when you die. bobofcow

You aren't actually encouraging them to read the Bible, with that tone of yours.

I am not concerned about other ppl like that. I only look after myself when the afterlife comes as well as 99.9999% of the other human beings do out there too.

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atheist are hard headed why do you attack the bible? you know nothing maybe if you freakin read the bible then you might beleive. seriously i don't get why athesit are like this. kinda slow i mean well enjoy hell when you die. bobofcow

Yet you enjoy wishing malevolency upon atheists? You're no better than any other fundamentalist.

atheist are hard headed why do you attack the bible? you know nothing maybe if you freakin read the bible then you might beleive. seriously i don't get why athesit are like this. kinda slow i mean well enjoy hell when you die. bobofcow

You are stereotyping atheists you know.

I do not think the bible is bad. I think that it is rather intresting and you could learn good moral values from it. I just do not think that it is the word of God.

You know nothing about history or religion.blackregiment

Hah, claws out today, huh? Just because I don't agree with your god doesn't mean that I'm a horrible, ignorant person, you know. You should look up the word "acceptance" sometime; isn't that what you Christians are suppose to know and do?

-Jiggles-

No claws, just God's truth. I have not used the words you used to describe yourself. Those are from your imaginations, not my keystrokes.

You should look up the word "acceptance" sometime; isn't that what you Christians are suppose to know and do?

-Jiggles-

Too funny.Christians are not required to accept the lies of non-believers. We are to speak the truth from God's Word.

Rom 12:2And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Tit 2:11For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

Tit 2:12Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

Tit 2:13Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ;

Tit 2:14Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

Tit 2:15These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

Hitler was not a follower of Christ.blackregiment

Yes he was.

-Jiggles-

Please, I am starting to feel sorry for your lack of knowledge.

God said, Thou shall not murder.

Christ said.

Joh 14:15Ifyeloveme,keepmycommandments.

The Lord said.

1Jn 2:3And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

1Jn 1:6If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

1Jn 2:4He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Did Hitler murder? Yes

Hitler was not a follower of Christ by Christ's own standards.

I'll trust Christ over your uninformed opinion.

If onew says they are a duck, you seem to believe that makes them a duck.

Want to buy some swampland. It is nice waterfront property?

He used and deceived the Church in Germany* in His rise to power.

blackregiment

Seems like a fad for many dictators, doesn't it?

-Jiggles-

Some do, but the biggies of your "atheist faith" such as Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, theywere man enough to admit they were atheists.

He prosecuted Jews, Christians, gypsies, etc.blackregiment

He prosecuted the Jews and Gypsies, that much is true; doing a quick google search on if Hitler convicted Christians has deemed me no results, however. I'll just accept that much as pure conspiracy, nothing more.

-Jiggles-

I really didn't come here to prove how little you know aboutChristianity and history, but you keep opening the door wide enough to drive a Mack truch through.

POLANDS HOLOCAUST 6 MILLION CITIZENS DEAD (3 MILLION CHRISTIANS and 3 MILLION JEWS)by Edward Lucaire

http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/Lucaire.htm

He was an occultist that believed in the religion of Darwinismas justifification to create his superior race.

blackregiment

Darwinism isn't a religion. :lol:

-Jiggles-

O yes it is.It has beliefs and requires much more "faith" that true Christianity.

[QUOTE="bobofcow"]atheist are hard headed why do you attack the bible? you know nothing maybe if you freakin read the bible then you might beleive. seriously i don't get why athesit are like this. kinda slow i mean well enjoy hell when you die. dave123321

You are stereotyping atheists you know.

I do not think the bible is bad. I think that it is rather intresting and you could learn good moral values from it. I just do not think that it is the word of God.

how is it not the word of god?? i don't guess if god exist i know god exist and has always been with me the day i was born. too bad for you. enjoy your afterlife in pit of hell.

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[QUOTE="bobofcow"]atheist are hard headed why do you attack the bible? you know nothing maybe if you freakin read the bible then you might beleive. seriously i don't get why athesit are like this. kinda slow i mean well enjoy hell when you die. bobofcow

Yet you enjoy wishing malevolency upon atheists? You're no better than any other fundamentalist.

wishing malevolency on beast like you. think mostly atheist are satanist and most crimes are commited by atheist. most atheist dress up like ugly goths. those emo people you see are also atheist i don't see they shouldn't burn. the reason why this atheist thing started was because satan wants people to not beelive in christ. wake up

You know, you are insulting now........