Do you think Good "Atheists" go to Hell?

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#151 felixlynch777
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[QUOTE="felixlynch777"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]Chrush: Of course, now as an adult in a manner that is meant to harm another, I try very hard not to, or if at all.Crushmaster


So if you've told a lie, what does that make you?

Imperfect, nothing more or less. Not inperfect because of Adam, not because Jesus died for my sins, just imperfect. And I always will be.


Yes, but more specifically. What would you call me if I told a lie?

Why do you keep this pointless game up? You just want him to call himself a sinner so you can try your luck at converting him, why don't you just skip this step???


I believe Felix should make the decision of whether he wants to continue or not.
And, yes, he is a sinner - as I am, and as every other human being who's ever lived is.
Have you ever told a lie?

*sigh* All right lets play...

Yes, it's a big flaw of mine to tell small lies to get people off my back, ie "I already did my homework" when I didn't. But I'm trying really hard to change this and it's working.

Yes, I stole a penil or two back in elementary and junior high, but I've never done it since, if you dropped your wallet or whatever on the street I'd pick it up and give it back.

So, what's next?


First, a quick question:
What does telling a lie and stealing something make you?

A liar and a thief, BOY is this getting interesting...


Correct. Now, next question:
Have you ever looked with lust?

Have you?


Yes, I have. Now, have you?

Define 'lust'.

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#152 felixlynch777
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[QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]Chrush: Of course, now as an adult in a manner that is meant to harm another, I try very hard not to, or if at all.Crushmaster


So if you've told a lie, what does that make you?

Imperfect, nothing more or less. Not inperfect because of Adam, not because Jesus died for my sins, just imperfect. And I always will be.


Yes, but more specifically. What would you call me if I told a lie?

Why do you keep this pointless game up? You just want him to call himself a sinner so you can try your luck at converting him, why don't you just skip this step???


I believe Felix should make the decision of whether he wants to continue or not.
And, yes, he is a sinner - as I am, and as every other human being who's ever lived is.
Have you ever told a lie?

*sigh* All right lets play...

Yes, it's a big flaw of mine to tell small lies to get people off my back, ie "I already did my homework" when I didn't. But I'm trying really hard to change this and it's working.

Yes, I stole a penil or two back in elementary and junior high, but I've never done it since, if you dropped your wallet or whatever on the street I'd pick it up and give it back.

So, what's next?


First, a quick question:
What does telling a lie and stealing something make you?

A liar and a thief, BOY is this getting interesting...


Correct. Now, next question:
Have you ever looked with lust?

You mean lusting over women, right? Yeah, I'm a guy who happens to like *gasp* girls. So what about it?


OK, now, the next question:
Have you said God's name in vain? Like, using His name as a swear word?

All the time.

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#153 Crushmaster
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[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

I always found the concept of hell to be a bumpy subject.

I mean, if God loves us so much and is so forgiving, why does his love and forgiveness have to stop at death? Being able to forgive someone for their crimes and shortcomings past the physical world we live in sounds like a trait God would inherit, right? To me, I think that (if there is a God), he/she/it/whatever will be able to forgive any wrongdoing that someone has done in their time on Earth and shows the love and compassion befitting of such a powerful prescence.

Just thinking out loud.

THE_DRUGGIE


God is forgiving and loving, yes - but He is also a just God, and can not allow sin in His presence.
That is why Christ came and died on the Cross. When we accept Him into our hearts and repent of our sins, He covers our sins.
But, those who have not accepted Christ and repented of their sins have nothing to cover their sins.

But shouldn't purgatory cover that whole prescence issue? Myabe there's some kind of semi-purgatory where the angels do all the non-belief sin cleansing so God doesn't have to be around them. Plus, I'd believe in the whole thing pretty quick if I ended up in semi-purgatory.


Purgatory does not exist. There is absolutely nothing about it in the Scriptures.

But it sounds like a good idea. Maybe they did some renovations in the next world since the last time they popped in to check on us.


It may sound like a good idea, but it is not a Biblical idea. In the Bible, there are only two places you can go to when you die:
Heaven or hell.
Heaven for those who have accepted Christ, hell for those who died in their sins.
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[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="felixlynch777"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]Chrush: Of course, now as an adult in a manner that is meant to harm another, I try very hard not to, or if at all.felixlynch777


So if you've told a lie, what does that make you?

Imperfect, nothing more or less. Not inperfect because of Adam, not because Jesus died for my sins, just imperfect. And I always will be.


Yes, but more specifically. What would you call me if I told a lie?

Why do you keep this pointless game up? You just want him to call himself a sinner so you can try your luck at converting him, why don't you just skip this step???


I believe Felix should make the decision of whether he wants to continue or not.
And, yes, he is a sinner - as I am, and as every other human being who's ever lived is.
Have you ever told a lie?

*sigh* All right lets play...

Yes, it's a big flaw of mine to tell small lies to get people off my back, ie "I already did my homework" when I didn't. But I'm trying really hard to change this and it's working.

Yes, I stole a penil or two back in elementary and junior high, but I've never done it since, if you dropped your wallet or whatever on the street I'd pick it up and give it back.

So, what's next?


First, a quick question:
What does telling a lie and stealing something make you?

A liar and a thief, BOY is this getting interesting...


Correct. Now, next question:
Have you ever looked with lust?

Have you?


Yes, I have. Now, have you?

Define 'lust'.

This is an insanely large quote chain. :P

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#156 Crushmaster
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[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="felixlynch777"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]Chrush: Of course, now as an adult in a manner that is meant to harm another, I try very hard not to, or if at all.felixlynch777


So if you've told a lie, what does that make you?

Imperfect, nothing more or less. Not inperfect because of Adam, not because Jesus died for my sins, just imperfect. And I always will be.


Yes, but more specifically. What would you call me if I told a lie?

Why do you keep this pointless game up? You just want him to call himself a sinner so you can try your luck at converting him, why don't you just skip this step???


I believe Felix should make the decision of whether he wants to continue or not.
And, yes, he is a sinner - as I am, and as every other human being who's ever lived is.
Have you ever told a lie?

*sigh* All right lets play...

Yes, it's a big flaw of mine to tell small lies to get people off my back, ie "I already did my homework" when I didn't. But I'm trying really hard to change this and it's working.

Yes, I stole a penil or two back in elementary and junior high, but I've never done it since, if you dropped your wallet or whatever on the street I'd pick it up and give it back.

So, what's next?


First, a quick question:
What does telling a lie and stealing something make you?

A liar and a thief, BOY is this getting interesting...


Correct. Now, next question:
Have you ever looked with lust?

Have you?


Yes, I have. Now, have you?

Define 'lust'.


Lust: 1. Intense or unrestrained sexual craving. 2.a. An overwhelming desire or craving: a lust for power. b. Intense eagerness or enthusiasm: a lust for life.

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#157 felixlynch777
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[QUOTE="felixlynch777"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="felixlynch777"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]Chrush: Of course, now as an adult in a manner that is meant to harm another, I try very hard not to, or if at all.Crushmaster


So if you've told a lie, what does that make you?

Imperfect, nothing more or less. Not inperfect because of Adam, not because Jesus died for my sins, just imperfect. And I always will be.


Yes, but more specifically. What would you call me if I told a lie?

Why do you keep this pointless game up? You just want him to call himself a sinner so you can try your luck at converting him, why don't you just skip this step???


I believe Felix should make the decision of whether he wants to continue or not.
And, yes, he is a sinner - as I am, and as every other human being who's ever lived is.
Have you ever told a lie?

*sigh* All right lets play...

Yes, it's a big flaw of mine to tell small lies to get people off my back, ie "I already did my homework" when I didn't. But I'm trying really hard to change this and it's working.

Yes, I stole a penil or two back in elementary and junior high, but I've never done it since, if you dropped your wallet or whatever on the street I'd pick it up and give it back.

So, what's next?


First, a quick question:
What does telling a lie and stealing something make you?

A liar and a thief, BOY is this getting interesting...


Correct. Now, next question:
Have you ever looked with lust?

Have you?


Yes, I have. Now, have you?

Define 'lust'.


Lust: 1. Intense or unrestrained sexual craving. 2.a. An overwhelming desire or craving: a lust for power. b. Intense eagerness or enthusiasm: a lust for life.

I wouldn't say unrestrained, but yes then.

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#158 OneWingedAngeI
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you guys with these damned quote trees... :(
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#159 SunofVich
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Ok I think the question is directed to those that believe in the religious stuff and believe in heaven and hell.

Personally I dont think there is a hell. Yes I am athiest... sort of.

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#160 tzar3
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Wow just look at all this, Crushmaster what is it that you hope to acomplish anyways?
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Yep, they don't burn but they spend the rest of their eternal existences in purgatory with people like Vergil and Socrates. One of the reasons why I gave up religion.
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#162 Crushmaster
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[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="felixlynch777"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="felixlynch777"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]Chrush: Of course, now as an adult in a manner that is meant to harm another, I try very hard not to, or if at all.felixlynch777


So if you've told a lie, what does that make you?

Imperfect, nothing more or less. Not inperfect because of Adam, not because Jesus died for my sins, just imperfect. And I always will be.


Yes, but more specifically. What would you call me if I told a lie?

Why do you keep this pointless game up? You just want him to call himself a sinner so you can try your luck at converting him, why don't you just skip this step???


I believe Felix should make the decision of whether he wants to continue or not.
And, yes, he is a sinner - as I am, and as every other human being who's ever lived is.
Have you ever told a lie?

*sigh* All right lets play...

Yes, it's a big flaw of mine to tell small lies to get people off my back, ie "I already did my homework" when I didn't. But I'm trying really hard to change this and it's working.

Yes, I stole a penil or two back in elementary and junior high, but I've never done it since, if you dropped your wallet or whatever on the street I'd pick it up and give it back.

So, what's next?


First, a quick question:
What does telling a lie and stealing something make you?

A liar and a thief, BOY is this getting interesting...


Correct. Now, next question:
Have you ever looked with lust?

Have you?


Yes, I have. Now, have you?

Define 'lust'.


Lust: 1. Intense or unrestrained sexual craving. 2.a. An overwhelming desire or craving: a lust for power. b. Intense eagerness or enthusiasm: a lust for life.

I wouldn't say unrestrained, but yes then.


Well then, by using God's standard, the Ten Commandents, you are a lying, thieving, blasphemous adulterer at heart.
Judging by these answers, would you say your eternal destiny going to be? In other words, will you go to heaven or hell?
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#163 BloodEmblem
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Can we, like, chop the quote trees here?
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#164 Shad0ki11
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No.

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#165 black_cat19
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[QUOTE="felixlynch777"]

Define 'lust'.

Crushmaster

Lust: 1. Intense or unrestrained sexual craving. 2.a. An overwhelming desire or craving: a lust for power. b. Intense eagerness or enthusiasm: a lust for life.

Those quote trees were really getting out of hand...

But anyways, in that case I'll have to change my answer. Since the desire I feel is neither intense nor unrestrained, and it's certainly not overwhelming, because I've "trained" myself to not be a mindless ape and keep it in my pants, then I'll have to say no, I've never lusted over women. I just like to admire a cute girl's beauty more than anything. :P

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#166 Crushmaster
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[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="felixlynch777"]

Define 'lust'.

black_cat19

Lust: 1. Intense or unrestrained sexual craving. 2.a. An overwhelming desire or craving: a lust for power. b. Intense eagerness or enthusiasm: a lust for life.

Those quote chains were getting out of hand...

But anyways, in that case I'll have to change my answer. Since the desire I feel is neither intense nor unrestrained, and it's certainly not overwhelming, because I've "trained" myself to not be a mindless ape and keep it in my pants, then I'll have to say no, I've never lusted over women. I just like to admire a cute girl's beauty more than anything. :P


...That's still lust, I'm afraid.
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#167 black_cat19
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OK, now, the next question:
Have you said God's name in vain? Like, using His name as a swear word?

Crushmaster

As for this, I'm sure you've seen me around quite a bit, as I have you, so why do you even ask? You know the answer, I don't give a damn about god's or jesus' name. I'm mexican, and here Jesus is a pretty common name, and Jesuses are commonly refered to as "Chucho", it's the equivalent of calling a Richard "Dick", so I just call THE jesus Chucho as well. :P

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#168 battlefront23
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Yes.
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#169 Crushmaster
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[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]

OK, now, the next question:
Have you said God's name in vain? Like, using His name as a swear word?

black_cat19

As for this, I'm sure you've seen me around quite a bit, as I have you, so why do you even ask? You know the answer, I don't give a damn about god's or jesus' name. I'm mexican, and here Jesus is a pretty common name, and Jesuses are commonly refered to as "Chucho", it's the equivalent of calling a Richard "Dick", so I just call THE jesus Chucho as well. :P


Well then, I refer you to my post up near the top of the page.
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Crush...I know it'll be hard for you to live in heaven with all of us in hell. I know you'll feel bad for us when we're all "burning in fiery damnation", but you'll get over it. We'll send postcards...and maybe even a stamp or two. You're going to make me cry with how much you care about me. :cry:

Oh, by the way, the devil says hi. :twisted:

Crushmaster


This is not a laughing matter. I truly want you, and the others on here who are not saved to come to Christ.

Absolutely this thing is a joke...this whole thread is a joke. In fact, these topics are the funniest and most entertaining threads in OT. You'd have to be a complete idiot to take anything said in here with even the slightest grain of salt.

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Chrush: (See guys, I'm trying to stop with the chains), Let us both cut to the chase. While I respect your opinion and believe you truly believe every word your saying and live by, and hope our Constitution always respects the rights to these opinions. I truly do not give a @$*%. Really, I don't. Why would I die and suddenly convert against all that I have always believed and experienced. Even in front of a God, I'd stay with what is in my mind and heart, he is not real.
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#172 black_cat19
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[QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="felixlynch777"]

Define 'lust'.

Crushmaster

Lust: 1. Intense or unrestrained sexual craving. 2.a. An overwhelming desire or craving: a lust for power. b. Intense eagerness or enthusiasm: a lust for life.

Those quote chains were getting out of hand...

But anyways, in that case I'll have to change my answer. Since the desire I feel is neither intense nor unrestrained, and it's certainly not overwhelming, because I've "trained" myself to not be a mindless ape and keep it in my pants, then I'll have to say no, I've never lusted over women. I just like to admire a cute girl's beauty more than anything. :P


...That's still lust, I'm afraid.

:|

Dude, seriously, how can you say "admiring a cute girl's beauty" is lustful? Saying "wow, that girl is cute" isn't even sexual, I think you got it mixed up with "whoa, I'd hit that".

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#173 bradleybhoy
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I'll find out when I die, but I'll hazard a guess: probably not.
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#174 felixlynch777
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[QUOTE="felixlynch777"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="felixlynch777"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="felixlynch777"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]Chrush: Of course, now as an adult in a manner that is meant to harm another, I try very hard not to, or if at all.Crushmaster


So if you've told a lie, what does that make you?

Imperfect, nothing more or less. Not inperfect because of Adam, not because Jesus died for my sins, just imperfect. And I always will be.


Yes, but more specifically. What would you call me if I told a lie?

Why do you keep this pointless game up? You just want him to call himself a sinner so you can try your luck at converting him, why don't you just skip this step???


I believe Felix should make the decision of whether he wants to continue or not.
And, yes, he is a sinner - as I am, and as every other human being who's ever lived is.
Have you ever told a lie?

*sigh* All right lets play...

Yes, it's a big flaw of mine to tell small lies to get people off my back, ie "I already did my homework" when I didn't. But I'm trying really hard to change this and it's working.

Yes, I stole a penil or two back in elementary and junior high, but I've never done it since, if you dropped your wallet or whatever on the street I'd pick it up and give it back.

So, what's next?


First, a quick question:
What does telling a lie and stealing something make you?

A liar and a thief, BOY is this getting interesting...


Correct. Now, next question:
Have you ever looked with lust?

Have you?


Yes, I have. Now, have you?

Define 'lust'.


Lust: 1. Intense or unrestrained sexual craving. 2.a. An overwhelming desire or craving: a lust for power. b. Intense eagerness or enthusiasm: a lust for life.

I wouldn't say unrestrained, but yes then.


Well then, by using God's standard, the Ten Commandents, you are a lying, thieving, blasphemous adulterer at heart.
Judging by these answers, would you say your eternal destiny going to be? In other words, will you go to heaven or hell?

Uhh, none. Because I don't believe in fairyland.

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#175 tzar3
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[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="edgewalker16"]

Crush...I know it'll be hard for you to live in heaven with all of us in hell. I know you'll feel bad for us when we're all "burning in fiery damnation", but you'll get over it. We'll send postcards...and maybe even a stamp or two. You're going to make me cry with how much you care about me. :cry:

Oh, by the way, the devil says hi. :twisted:

edgewalker16


This is not a laughing matter. I truly want you, and the others on here who are not saved to come to Christ.

Absolutely this thing is a joke...this whole thread is a joke. In fact, these topics are the funniest and most entertaining threads in OT. You'd have to be a complete idiot to take anything said in here with even the slightest grain of salt.

I agree, maybe having Crushmaster and his bible buddies isn't such a bad idea. They are pretty much entertainers when they speak.

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#176 battlefront23
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[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="felixlynch777"]

Define 'lust'.

black_cat19

Lust: 1. Intense or unrestrained sexual craving. 2.a. An overwhelming desire or craving: a lust for power. b. Intense eagerness or enthusiasm: a lust for life.

Those quote chains were getting out of hand...

But anyways, in that case I'll have to change my answer. Since the desire I feel is neither intense nor unrestrained, and it's certainly not overwhelming, because I've "trained" myself to not be a mindless ape and keep it in my pants, then I'll have to say no, I've never lusted over women. I just like to admire a cute girl's beauty more than anything. :P


...That's still lust, I'm afraid.

:|

Dude, seriously, how can you say "admiring a cute girl's beauty" is lustful? Saying "wow, that girl is cute" isn't even sexual, I think you got it mixed up with "whoa, I'd hit that".

If you are m@sturbating because of this "girl" then its lust. As for the pic in my sig, I specifically got a pic that was not provocative because I respect women. (I'm not saying others don't but I think having a provocative pic up on anything is disrespectful to women everywhere.)

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[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="edgewalker16"]

Crush...I know it'll be hard for you to live in heaven with all of us in hell. I know you'll feel bad for us when we're all "burning in fiery damnation", but you'll get over it. We'll send postcards...and maybe even a stamp or two. You're going to make me cry with how much you care about me. :cry:

Oh, by the way, the devil says hi. :twisted:

edgewalker16


This is not a laughing matter. I truly want you, and the others on here who are not saved to come to Christ.

Absolutely this thing is a joke...this whole thread is a joke. In fact, these topics are the funniest and most entertaining threads in OT. You'd have to be a complete idiot to take anything said in here with even the slightest grain of salt.


Eternal damnation is no joke. I hope you will see that before it's too late.
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#178 felixlynch777
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Well then, by using God's standard, the Ten Commandents, you are a lying, thieving, blasphemous adulterer at heart.
Judging by these answers, would you say your eternal destiny going to be? In other words, will you go to heaven or hell?

If we use this idiotic logic everyone (you included) is going to hell because everybody has done one of those things. And blasphemous? Please it's not a crime if the victim doesn't exist.

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#179 battlefront23
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@Crushmaster

They will supress anything you say, regardless if what you say is truth. That's what I've learned from being around the OT a lot.

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[QUOTE="edgewalker16"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="edgewalker16"]

Crush...I know it'll be hard for you to live in heaven with all of us in hell. I know you'll feel bad for us when we're all "burning in fiery damnation", but you'll get over it. We'll send postcards...and maybe even a stamp or two. You're going to make me cry with how much you care about me. :cry:

Oh, by the way, the devil says hi. :twisted:

Crushmaster


This is not a laughing matter. I truly want you, and the others on here who are not saved to come to Christ.

Absolutely this thing is a joke...this whole thread is a joke. In fact, these topics are the funniest and most entertaining threads in OT. You'd have to be a complete idiot to take anything said in here with even the slightest grain of salt.


Eternal damnation is no joke. I hope you will see that before it's too late.

quote worthy... TO THE MAX.

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#181 Crushmaster
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[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="felixlynch777"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="felixlynch777"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="felixlynch777"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]Chrush: Of course, now as an adult in a manner that is meant to harm another, I try very hard not to, or if at all.felixlynch777


So if you've told a lie, what does that make you?

Imperfect, nothing more or less. Not inperfect because of Adam, not because Jesus died for my sins, just imperfect. And I always will be.


Yes, but more specifically. What would you call me if I told a lie?

Why do you keep this pointless game up? You just want him to call himself a sinner so you can try your luck at converting him, why don't you just skip this step???


I believe Felix should make the decision of whether he wants to continue or not.
And, yes, he is a sinner - as I am, and as every other human being who's ever lived is.
Have you ever told a lie?

*sigh* All right lets play...

Yes, it's a big flaw of mine to tell small lies to get people off my back, ie "I already did my homework" when I didn't. But I'm trying really hard to change this and it's working.

Yes, I stole a penil or two back in elementary and junior high, but I've never done it since, if you dropped your wallet or whatever on the street I'd pick it up and give it back.

So, what's next?


First, a quick question:
What does telling a lie and stealing something make you?

A liar and a thief, BOY is this getting interesting...


Correct. Now, next question:
Have you ever looked with lust?

Have you?


Yes, I have. Now, have you?

Define 'lust'.


Lust: 1. Intense or unrestrained sexual craving. 2.a. An overwhelming desire or craving: a lust for power. b. Intense eagerness or enthusiasm: a lust for life.

I wouldn't say unrestrained, but yes then.


Well then, by using God's standard, the Ten Commandents, you are a lying, thieving, blasphemous adulterer at heart.
Judging by these answers, would you say your eternal destiny going to be? In other words, will you go to heaven or hell?

Uhh, none. Because I don't believe in fairyland.


That does not matter. You still have to face God on Judgement Day whether you believe it or not. If I step onto the freeway when a massive truck is heading for me and I say, "I don't believe in trucks", my lack of belief isn't going to change reality.
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#182 felixlynch777
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[QUOTE="edgewalker16"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="edgewalker16"]

Crush...I know it'll be hard for you to live in heaven with all of us in hell. I know you'll feel bad for us when we're all "burning in fiery damnation", but you'll get over it. We'll send postcards...and maybe even a stamp or two. You're going to make me cry with how much you care about me. :cry:

Oh, by the way, the devil says hi. :twisted:

Crushmaster


This is not a laughing matter. I truly want you, and the others on here who are not saved to come to Christ.

Absolutely this thing is a joke...this whole thread is a joke. In fact, these topics are the funniest and most entertaining threads in OT. You'd have to be a complete idiot to take anything said in here with even the slightest grain of salt.


Eternal damnation is no joke. I hope you will see that before it's too late.

Have you not noticed that when you say these kinds of things, you are making yourself very fair game for mockery.

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#183 foxhound_fox
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Eternal damnation is no joke. I hope you will see that before it's too late.Crushmaster

Eternal damnation for not accepting an unknowable deity is about as logical as the death-bed repentance and God "forgiving him" and saving a murderer from Hell.

I'd rather dine in purgatory with Vergil, Socrates, Einstein and the countless other "heathen" greats in history than spend a second of my life begging a human-like "God" for forgiveness for being human, his creation.
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[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="edgewalker16"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="edgewalker16"]

Crush...I know it'll be hard for you to live in heaven with all of us in hell. I know you'll feel bad for us when we're all "burning in fiery damnation", but you'll get over it. We'll send postcards...and maybe even a stamp or two. You're going to make me cry with how much you care about me. :cry:

Oh, by the way, the devil says hi. :twisted:

bradleybhoy


This is not a laughing matter. I truly want you, and the others on here who are not saved to come to Christ.

Absolutely this thing is a joke...this whole thread is a joke. In fact, these topics are the funniest and most entertaining threads in OT. You'd have to be a complete idiot to take anything said in here with even the slightest grain of salt.


Eternal damnation is no joke. I hope you will see that before it's too late.

quote worthy... TO THE MAX.

I do not know why that in any way is quote worthy or a joking matter.

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#185 bradleybhoy
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[QUOTE="felixlynch777"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="felixlynch777"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="felixlynch777"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="felixlynch777"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]Chrush: Of course, now as an adult in a manner that is meant to harm another, I try very hard not to, or if at all.Crushmaster


So if you've told a lie, what does that make you?

Imperfect, nothing more or less. Not inperfect because of Adam, not because Jesus died for my sins, just imperfect. And I always will be.


Yes, but more specifically. What would you call me if I told a lie?

Why do you keep this pointless game up? You just want him to call himself a sinner so you can try your luck at converting him, why don't you just skip this step???


I believe Felix should make the decision of whether he wants to continue or not.
And, yes, he is a sinner - as I am, and as every other human being who's ever lived is.
Have you ever told a lie?

*sigh* All right lets play...

Yes, it's a big flaw of mine to tell small lies to get people off my back, ie "I already did my homework" when I didn't. But I'm trying really hard to change this and it's working.

Yes, I stole a penil or two back in elementary and junior high, but I've never done it since, if you dropped your wallet or whatever on the street I'd pick it up and give it back.

So, what's next?


First, a quick question:
What does telling a lie and stealing something make you?

A liar and a thief, BOY is this getting interesting...


Correct. Now, next question:
Have you ever looked with lust?

Have you?


Yes, I have. Now, have you?

Define 'lust'.


Lust: 1. Intense or unrestrained sexual craving. 2.a. An overwhelming desire or craving: a lust for power. b. Intense eagerness or enthusiasm: a lust for life.

I wouldn't say unrestrained, but yes then.


Well then, by using God's standard, the Ten Commandents, you are a lying, thieving, blasphemous adulterer at heart.
Judging by these answers, would you say your eternal destiny going to be? In other words, will you go to heaven or hell?

Uhh, none. Because I don't believe in fairyland.


That does not matter. You still have to face God on Judgement Day whether you believe it or not. If I step onto the freeway when a massive truck is heading for me and I say, "I don't believe in trucks", my lack of belief isn't going to change reality.

We know trucks exist..................

Prove your God exists please.

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#186 Cube_of_MooN
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Do all athiests go to hell? I have no idea.
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#187 Crushmaster
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felixlynch777


Well then, by using God's standard, the Ten Commandents, you are a lying, thieving, blasphemous adulterer at heart.
Judging by these answers, would you say your eternal destiny going to be? In other words, will you go to heaven or hell?

If we use this idiotic logic everyone (you included) is going to hell because everybody has done one of those things. And blasphemous? Please it's not a crime if the victim doesn't exist.


Aye, you are exactly correct. We would all be going to hell. However, God provided a way - through His son, Jesus Christ.
When we accept Him into our heart and repent of our sins, our sins are then covered by Christ's blood.:)
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#188 black_cat19
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[QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="felixlynch777"]

Define 'lust'.

battlefront23

Lust: 1. Intense or unrestrained sexual craving. 2.a. An overwhelming desire or craving: a lust for power. b. Intense eagerness or enthusiasm: a lust for life.

Those quote chains were getting out of hand...

But anyways, in that case I'll have to change my answer. Since the desire I feel is neither intense nor unrestrained, and it's certainly not overwhelming, because I've "trained" myself to not be a mindless ape and keep it in my pants, then I'll have to say no, I've never lusted over women. I just like to admire a cute girl's beauty more than anything. :P


...That's still lust, I'm afraid.

:|

Dude, seriously, how can you say "admiring a cute girl's beauty" is lustful? Saying "wow, that girl is cute" isn't even sexual, I think you got it mixed up with "whoa, I'd hit that".

If you are m@sturbating because of this "girl" then its lust. As for the pic in my sig, I specifically got a pic that was not provocative because I respect women. (I'm not saying others don't but I think having a provocative pic up on anything is disrespectful to women everywhere.)

WTF???

Who the hell said ANYTHING about masturbation :? Don't put words in my mouth...

I respect women too, didn't I say earlier I keep it in my pants and am not a mindless ape? I'd say not going through life trying to get laid with as many girls as possible could JUST MAYBE be considered respectful towards women, wouldn't you?

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#189 Crushmaster
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[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="edgewalker16"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="edgewalker16"]

Crush...I know it'll be hard for you to live in heaven with all of us in hell. I know you'll feel bad for us when we're all "burning in fiery damnation", but you'll get over it. We'll send postcards...and maybe even a stamp or two. You're going to make me cry with how much you care about me. :cry:

Oh, by the way, the devil says hi. :twisted:

felixlynch777


This is not a laughing matter. I truly want you, and the others on here who are not saved to come to Christ.

Absolutely this thing is a joke...this whole thread is a joke. In fact, these topics are the funniest and most entertaining threads in OT. You'd have to be a complete idiot to take anything said in here with even the slightest grain of salt.


Eternal damnation is no joke. I hope you will see that before it's too late.

Have you not noticed that when you say these kinds of things, you are making yourself very fair game for mockery.


I am going to say what is True, whether or not it subjects me to mockery.
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#190 felixlynch777
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Crushmaster why do you cherish the bible and trust it as definite truth when it was written 2000 years ago by tribesman sitting in their caves?
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#194 felixlynch777
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[QUOTE="felixlynch777"]


Crushmaster


Well then, by using God's standard, the Ten Commandents, you are a lying, thieving, blasphemous adulterer at heart.
Judging by these answers, would you say your eternal destiny going to be? In other words, will you go to heaven or hell?

If we use this idiotic logic everyone (you included) is going to hell because everybody has done one of those things. And blasphemous? Please it's not a crime if the victim doesn't exist.


Aye, you are exactly correct. We would all be going to hell. However, God provided a way - through His son, Jesus Christ.
When we accept Him into our heart and repent of our sins, our sins are then covered by Christ's blood.:)

Stop trying to convert me, your comments have put me off Christianity for life.

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#195 Lord_Omikron666
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How should any of us know...? All I know is that I already bought a home down in Hell
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#196 felixlynch777
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[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="black_cat19"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="felixlynch777"]

Define 'lust'.

black_cat19

Lust: 1. Intense or unrestrained sexual craving. 2.a. An overwhelming desire or craving: a lust for power. b. Intense eagerness or enthusiasm: a lust for life.

Those quote chains were getting out of hand...

But anyways, in that case I'll have to change my answer. Since the desire I feel is neither intense nor unrestrained, and it's certainly not overwhelming, because I've "trained" myself to not be a mindless ape and keep it in my pants, then I'll have to say no, I've never lusted over women. I just like to admire a cute girl's beauty more than anything. :P


...That's still lust, I'm afraid.

:|

Dude, seriously, how can you say "admiring a cute girl's beauty" is lustful? Saying "wow, that girl is cute" isn't even sexual, I think you got it mixed up with "whoa, I'd hit that".

If you are m@sturbating because of this "girl" then its lust. As for the pic in my sig, I specifically got a pic that was not provocative because I respect women. (I'm not saying others don't but I think having a provocative pic up on anything is disrespectful to women everywhere.)

WTF???

Who the hell said ANYTHING about masturbation :? Don't put words in my mouth...

I respect women too, didn't I say earlier I keep it in my pants and am not a mindless ape? I'd say not going through life trying to get laid with as many girls as possible could JUST MAYBE be considered respectful towards women, wouldn't you?

[QUOTE="felixlynch777"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="edgewalker16"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="edgewalker16"]

Crush...I know it'll be hard for you to live in heaven with all of us in hell. I know you'll feel bad for us when we're all "burning in fiery damnation", but you'll get over it. We'll send postcards...and maybe even a stamp or two. You're going to make me cry with how much you care about me. :cry:

Oh, by the way, the devil says hi. :twisted:

Crushmaster


This is not a laughing matter. I truly want you, and the others on here who are not saved to come to Christ.

Absolutely this thing is a joke...this whole thread is a joke. In fact, these topics are the funniest and most entertaining threads in OT. You'd have to be a complete idiot to take anything said in here with even the slightest grain of salt.


Eternal damnation is no joke. I hope you will see that before it's too late.

Have you not noticed that when you say these kinds of things, you are making yourself very fair game for mockery.


I am going to say what is True, whether or not it subjects me to mockery.

You just did it again.

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[QUOTE="felixlynch777"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"]


Well then, by using God's standard, the Ten Commandents, you are a lying, thieving, blasphemous adulterer at heart.
Judging by these answers, would you say your eternal destiny going to be? In other words, will you go to heaven or hell?

Crushmaster

If we use this idiotic logic everyone (you included) is going to hell because everybody has done one of those things. And blasphemous? Please it's not a crime if the victim doesn't exist.


Aye, you are exactly correct. We would all be going to hell. However, God provided a way - through His son, Jesus Christ.
When we accept Him into our heart and repent of our sins, our sins are then covered by Christ's blood.:)

WTF?? :? I don't want to be covered by ANYONE's blood, even less by his, I can't even stand watching the guy hanging from walls all over the world, endlessly agonizing, I just CAN'T STAND cruelty, and just thinking about what took place that day makes me sick...

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#198 foxhound_fox
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No I'm saying if you go as far as that, then it is lust. Or if you imagine yourself having sex with the said person. Those are lust. Noticing a girl is pretty is by no means lust, so long as your thoughts are pure. I'm not saying you aren't respectful to women, I just think its disrespectful to have provocative picture sof women up on your room/dorm wall, gs account, etc.battlefront23

I don't see how natural sexual urges are "impure." It is in our nature to reproduce and the only way to do that is through sex... and with sex comes pleasure and is vital to maintaining a healthy relationship.
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[QUOTE="edgewalker16"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="edgewalker16"]

Crush...I know it'll be hard for you to live in heaven with all of us in hell. I know you'll feel bad for us when we're all "burning in fiery damnation", but you'll get over it. We'll send postcards...and maybe even a stamp or two. You're going to make me cry with how much you care about me. :cry:

Oh, by the way, the devil says hi. :twisted:

Crushmaster


This is not a laughing matter. I truly want you, and the others on here who are not saved to come to Christ.

Absolutely this thing is a joke...this whole thread is a joke. In fact, these topics are the funniest and most entertaining threads in OT. You'd have to be a complete idiot to take anything said in here with even the slightest grain of salt.


Eternal damnation is no joke. I hope you will see that before it's too late.

Sharing a delusion with millions of people is no joke either.

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#200 NaiKoN9293
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surely they would go to hell. i dont see how anyone could think different.