does god really love us? maybe god is evil?

does god really love us? or did he create us just to have fun killing us. maybe he's playin with us ? he gives us something to love then takes it away from us.... hmm maybe god is EVIL *dun dun da!*

Assuming that evil is real and that God is omnipotent, one could very well conclude that God is evil (or, to be less audacious, let us say "imperfect"), for the simple reason that he allows evil to persist.

Edit: Tacos are great but do not rule.

Perhaps perhaps not

......you made him sad.......

Evil exists because of Eve.Witchking111111

If you go further back its the serpant really.

Can you call god evil for giving us free will? For giving us the ability to choose whether we beleive in him or not? Is it evil to give free will? Just cause some one does something bad doesnt make god evil it makes the person who did it bad. 123625

Free will is simply a chance to go to Hell.

Can you call god evil for giving us free will? For giving us the ability to choose whether we beleive in him or not? Is it evil to give free will? Just cause some one does something bad doesnt make god evil it makes the person who did it bad. 123625

Free will is quite an exageration for a lot of people. Plus God could put a bottom to life so you couldn't sink infinitely low and die, but he doesn't. So ya you could totally think god is evil. It's might makes right.

Jesus is a decent role model though, imo.

if u go further back..god created serpant...god is not evil...just mis understoodtacosrule193

[QUOTE="tacosrule193"]if u go further back..god created serpant...god is not evil...just mis understoodMattUD1

isnt the serpent the devil..and wasnt the devil GOOD and one of his favorite angels?

why of course i love TC now go to the bathroom so i can observed you like i have since u been born my furry little friend

[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="tacosrule193"]if u go further back..god created serpant...god is not evil...just mis understoodkirk4ever

isnt the serpent the devil..and wasnt the devil GOOD and one of his favorite angels?

This is an interesting read. It's from a blog called the Atheist Bible Study and examines if God is 'evil', from a non-Christian perspective.:

http://atheistbiblestudy.blogspot.com/2004/07/is-god-evil.html

[QUOTE="123625"]Can you call god evil for giving us free will? For giving us the ability to choose whether we beleive in him or not? Is it evil to give free will? Just cause some one does something bad doesnt make god evil it makes the person who did it bad. Elraptor

You saying you dont want free will?

[QUOTE="Elraptor"][QUOTE="123625"]Can you call god evil for giving us free will? For giving us the ability to choose whether we beleive in him or not? Is it evil to give free will? Just cause some one does something bad doesnt make god evil it makes the person who did it bad. 123625

You saying you dont want free will?

Can you call god evil for giving us free will? For giving us the ability to choose whether we beleive in him or not? Is it evil to give free will? Just cause some one does something bad doesnt make god evil it makes the person who did it bad. 123625

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[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="tacosrule193"]if u go further back..god created serpant...god is not evil...just mis understoodMattUD1

isnt the serpent the devil..and wasnt the devil GOOD and one of his favorite angels?

The angel Satan was gods most favourite angel I think and was and still is the second most powerful only to god. He however wanted to be god but because he couldnt get to god he decided to hurt his creation man. The angels had free will like us but knew of god and had a choice to either serve or fight against.

[QUOTE="123625"]Can you call god evil for giving us free will? For giving us the ability to choose whether we beleive in him or not? Is it evil to give free will? Just cause some one does something bad doesnt make god evil it makes the person who did it bad. SizeMatterzz

But without free will, there would be no evil and thus, nobody would go to Hell...not that they'd care.

God's a prankster. Read between the lines of what you know about him, and you'll understand why. (PS, I'm not a Satanist, even if my arguments seem to favor Satan as a more "Loving" Deity.)

If he is real, then he has given us these marvelous things called "Ambition" and "Free Will". Then what does he do? For his own sick amusement, he sets the rules in opposition.
IE - Look but don't touch
- Touch but don't taste
- Taste but don't swallow
- Be kind and love thy neighbour for the spiritual happiness it gives you
- Be kind to God, by constantly giving money to his Church and devoting your life to him, or he'll threaten eternal punishment.

Now what kind of being is God? If he is real, then he always judges us, mocks us by setting the rules in opposition, and punishes in the worst possible way.

If you want to compare him to the Devil. In essence, you've got God's one-sided view of himself and Satan, but then by all accounts, you've got Satan, who's doing God's dirty business.

The Devil doesn't judge us, he just accepts anyone and everyone who will come to his domain of "Hell". God however, he discriminates, judges and has set criteria for entrance to his domain.

But here's the thing, what's to say you've been a devout religious person all your life, and suddenly you get to the gates of Heaven, and Saint Peter refuses you entry because of some minor sin you commited when you were but a mere child.
You've been devoted to practicing the ways set out by "God" in your mortal life, and now he's judging you "not suitable" to enter his domain. Before the Catholics start getting on their high horse about how "One act of sin, will be overlooked for a lifetime of repenting", how do you know that, Heaven would allow you entry no matter what. People have not come back from the dead to say "I got into Heaven, and all it took was a lifetime of repenting for a sin I committed when I was young". Therefore, there is no evidence to say that God would allow everyone who does this into heaven. All we go on, is your bible, which tells you all about Heaven and it's admission policy.

The fact is, that God is a discriminatory, menacing, dominating, prankster. As far as I'm concerned, he's evil.

[QUOTE="Elraptor"][QUOTE="123625"]Can you call god evil for giving us free will? For giving us the ability to choose whether we beleive in him or not? Is it evil to give free will? Just cause some one does something bad doesnt make god evil it makes the person who did it bad. 123625

You saying you dont want free will?

God does love us, He is not evil. We are all alive arnt we?Putzwapputzen

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[QUOTE="Elraptor"][QUOTE="123625"]Can you call god evil for giving us free will? For giving us the ability to choose whether we beleive in him or not? Is it evil to give free will? Just cause some one does something bad doesnt make god evil it makes the person who did it bad. SolidSnake35

You saying you dont want free will?

God doesn't do that, SIN does. man does it. Why don't you step up and take RESPONSIBILITY for ur sin. and stop blame god for ur sin.

[QUOTE="Putzwapputzen"]God does love us, He is not evil. We are all alive arnt we?SolidSnake35

See imagine this.

Now you are at a party, You are america and god is the patron. You sit at the table with all the food which has enough to feed everyone. God sits and watches passively. On the floor next to you are all the poor african countrys they are hungry and you turn them away. After you eat you relise they had nothing and you shout at anger at god saying "why didnt you feed them"

The point is god has given us enough resources to feed every one and no one country wants to share or give away things freely. Maybe its un economical. We have the ability to feed others in other countrys and make their lives better.

Plus god already comanded us to do it, and please tell me if there are any other charitys not in the name of christianity.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="Elraptor"][QUOTE="123625"]Can you call god evil for giving us free will? For giving us the ability to choose whether we beleive in him or not? Is it evil to give free will? Just cause some one does something bad doesnt make god evil it makes the person who did it bad. SizeMatterzz

You saying you dont want free will?

God doesn't do that, SIN does. man does it. Why don't you step up and take RESPONSIBILITY for ur sin. and stop blame god for ur sin.

Exactly stop blaming god for your sins when he has made it so simple for us to join him.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="Elraptor"][QUOTE="123625"]Can you call god evil for giving us free will? For giving us the ability to choose whether we beleive in him or not? Is it evil to give free will? Just cause some one does something bad doesnt make god evil it makes the person who did it bad. SizeMatterzz

You saying you dont want free will?

God doesn't do that, SIN does. man does it. Why don't you step up and take RESPONSIBILITY for ur sin. and stop blame god for ur sin.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="Elraptor"][QUOTE="123625"]Can you call god evil for giving us free will? For giving us the ability to choose whether we beleive in him or not? Is it evil to give free will? Just cause some one does something bad doesnt make god evil it makes the person who did it bad. SizeMatterzz

You saying you dont want free will?

God doesn't do that, SIN does. man does it. Why don't you step up and take RESPONSIBILITY for ur sin. and stop blame god for ur sin.

[QUOTE="SizeMatterzz"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="Elraptor"][QUOTE="123625"]Can you call god evil for giving us free will? For giving us the ability to choose whether we beleive in him or not? Is it evil to give free will? Just cause some one does something bad doesnt make god evil it makes the person who did it bad. qetuo6

You saying you dont want free will?

God doesn't do that, SIN does. man does it. Why don't you step up and take RESPONSIBILITY for ur sin. and stop blame god for ur sin.

Who are you to say all of the people were innocent? Innocent means guiltless. Plus its weather god can control if he wants to, but that doesnt mean he controls it all the time, does it? You seem to forget all the good weather can bring.

[QUOTE="SizeMatterzz"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="Elraptor"][QUOTE="123625"]Can you call god evil for giving us free will? For giving us the ability to choose whether we beleive in him or not? Is it evil to give free will? Just cause some one does something bad doesnt make god evil it makes the person who did it bad. SolidSnake35

You saying you dont want free will?

God doesn't do that, SIN does. man does it. Why don't you step up and take RESPONSIBILITY for ur sin. and stop blame god for ur sin.

Read my earlier comment.

Build a ladder to alllllll the way to heaven and ask him yourself.

But brace yourself, he might kick you down.

Read my earlier comment.123625

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="Elraptor"][QUOTE="123625"]Can you call god evil for giving us free will? For giving us the ability to choose whether we beleive in him or not? Is it evil to give free will? Just cause some one does something bad doesnt make god evil it makes the person who did it bad. SizeMatterzz

You saying you dont want free will?

God doesn't do that, SIN does. man does it. Why don't you step up and take RESPONSIBILITY for ur sin. and stop blame god for ur sin.

Right...I see what you did there.

So you're saying my sins causes God to unleash floods that kill millions. Riight.

But who's the one to take the blame in these "Acts of God". If you start pointing the finger and at me, I'll rip it off since I had nothing to do with how the bloody weather works, nor over a flood that occurs hundreds of miles from my current location. So others like me start pointing the finger at God, but then the religious folk, blame everyone else in the world for their sins as the cause

Why did he cause that flood and commit the biggest sin (murder) over a few million people? Or that's right...he's evil. If he did it as a show of power...that's evil. If he did it to get the message across that he is not happy with the sins of one person, then why doesn't he strike that one person down with lightning (smite them)?

I could rest my case on that, but I won't since I'm expecting a reply from the religious people in this thread.

[QUOTE="123625"]Read my earlier comment.SolidSnake35

You were saying about the africans and why they are suffering ive answered it. And i hate to see when people blame god for killing i really do. Its not his fault its the person who killed.

[QUOTE="qetuo6"][QUOTE="SizeMatterzz"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="Elraptor"][QUOTE="123625"]Can you call god evil for giving us free will? For giving us the ability to choose whether we beleive in him or not? Is it evil to give free will? Just cause some one does something bad doesnt make god evil it makes the person who did it bad. 123625

You saying you dont want free will?

God doesn't do that, SIN does. man does it. Why don't you step up and take RESPONSIBILITY for ur sin. and stop blame god for ur sin.

Who are you to say all of the people were innocent? Innocent means guiltless. Plus its weather god can control if he wants to, but that doesnt mean he controls it all the time, does it? You seem to forget all the good weather can bring.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]Read my earlier comment.123625

You were saying about the africans and why they are suffering ive answered it. And i hate to see when people blame god for killing i really do. Its not his fault its the person who killed.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]Read my earlier comment.123625

You were saying about the africans and why they are suffering ive answered it. And i hate to see when people blame god for killing i really do. Its not his fault its the person who killed.

I hate when people blame robberies for tornados.

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="qetuo6"][QUOTE="SizeMatterzz"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="Elraptor"][QUOTE="123625"]Can you call god evil for giving us free will? For giving us the ability to choose whether we beleive in him or not? Is it evil to give free will? Just cause some one does something bad doesnt make god evil it makes the person who did it bad. qetuo6

You saying you dont want free will?

God doesn't do that, SIN does. man does it. Why don't you step up and take RESPONSIBILITY for ur sin. and stop blame god for ur sin.

Who are you to say all of the people were innocent? Innocent means guiltless. Plus its weather god can control if he wants to, but that doesnt mean he controls it all the time, does it? You seem to forget all the good weather can bring.

Does it mean god caused the flood? Floods are things natural in this world and Floods can occur because of humans who dont maintain a dam correctly am i right? So who would be to blame the man who owns the dam or the man who built it? I wonder.

[QUOTE="qetuo6"][QUOTE="SizeMatterzz"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="Elraptor"][QUOTE="123625"]Can you call god evil for giving us free will? For giving us the ability to choose whether we beleive in him or not? Is it evil to give free will? Just cause some one does something bad doesnt make god evil it makes the person who did it bad. 123625

You saying you dont want free will?

God doesn't do that, SIN does. man does it. Why don't you step up and take RESPONSIBILITY for ur sin. and stop blame god for ur sin.

Who are you to say all of the people were innocent? Innocent means guiltless. Plus its weather god can control if he wants to, but that doesnt mean he controls it all the time, does it? You seem to forget all the good weather can bring.

he is all knowing and all powerful. this means that if god let an earthquake decimate half a city and kill hundreds, he let it happen on purpose. That is the problem.

[QUOTE="qetuo6"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="qetuo6"][QUOTE="SizeMatterzz"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="Elraptor"][QUOTE="123625"]Can you call god evil for giving us free will? For giving us the ability to choose whether we beleive in him or not? Is it evil to give free will? Just cause some one does something bad doesnt make god evil it makes the person who did it bad. 123625

You saying you dont want free will?

God doesn't do that, SIN does. man does it. Why don't you step up and take RESPONSIBILITY for ur sin. and stop blame god for ur sin.

Who are you to say all of the people were innocent? Innocent means guiltless. Plus its weather god can control if he wants to, but that doesnt mean he controls it all the time, does it? You seem to forget all the good weather can bring.

Does it mean god caused the flood? Floods are things natural in this world and Floods can occur because of humans who dont maintain a dam correctly am i right? So who would be to blame the man who owns the dam or the man who built it? I wonder.

[QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="123625"]Read my earlier comment.SolidSnake35

You were saying about the africans and why they are suffering ive answered it. And i hate to see when people blame god for killing i really do. Its not his fault its the person who killed.

Explain to me how HE Directly is killing the people?

[QUOTE="123625"]Can you call god evil for giving us free will? For giving us the ability to choose whether we beleive in him or not? Is it evil to give free will? Just cause some one does something bad doesnt make god evil it makes the person who did it bad. Elraptor

That last sentence is very Clockwork Orange-y.