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#101 GrayF0X786
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Well, most muslims try to hide the fact of his marraige because its embarrassing to them. BossPerson
its sad you speak for the Muslims here in offtopic, really sad indeed.

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#103 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

i doubt that, but considering the mongol/horse relationship it may have happened during some of the latter marches.

TehFuneral

Im sure I read it somewhere back in school, but im not a history major nor was I intrested much in Mongols very much.

But in terms of war tactics it was astonishing, even the Arabs with their Arabian horses have never done it.

an army of 100% horse archers is kinda hard to match.

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#104 jesuschristmonk
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Is this Muhammad?

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#105 branketra
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Not a good idea. Government and religion should NEVER mix.LJS9502_basic
I disagree. For instance, the Decalogue was an inspiration for the United States government during its early years when the founders needed to construct an ethical foundation for their new country.

sorry, trying to follow all the posts while playing battlefield at the same time....

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It is okay.
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#106 TehFuneral
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Is this Muhammad?

jesuschristmonk

No it was not.

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#107 jesuschristmonk
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[QUOTE="jesuschristmonk"]

Is this Muhammad?

TehFuneral

No it was not.

Huh. Same color right?
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#108 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]Well, most muslims try to hide the fact of his marraige because its embarrassing to them. Anyways, as atheists there is enough to debunk and attack about Islam other than the marraige practices of ancient arabia. BossPerson
Throwing away such an effective tool against Islam is unwise.

It's not an attack on Islam, more of an attack of the source of it. It's a fair point to say "should we be listening to a bunch of people who thought it was okay to have sex with children?," but that is not what I see most atheists do.

I always thought that was inferred. I do kind of wonder why more people don't look at Muhammad and say "Well this guy isn't what he claimed to be, maybe his claims aren't entirely true?". I mean it's not like he was preaching really radically new ideas and the guys morals aren't exactly the sort of thing we'd like to follow in this day and age. Maybe it's time for a new guy to follow.
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#109 TehFuneral
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[QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

[QUOTE="jesuschristmonk"]

Is this Muhammad?

jesuschristmonk

No it was not.

Huh. Same color right?

Nope, Muhammad had a light skin.

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#110 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Not a good idea. Government and religion should NEVER mix.BranKetra
I disagree. For instance, the Decalogue was an inspiration for the United States government during its early years when the founders needed to construct an ethical foundation for their new country. [.

Yet the founders made sure the government was not involved in the religion of the people. A better idea. But hey if you want government mandated faith....there's plenty of countries in the ME to choose from....
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#111 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="jesuschristmonk"][QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

No it was not.

TehFuneral

Huh. Same color right?

Nope, Muhammad had a light skin.

Er how do you know that? Never were any pictures of him since you know....that can get someone in serious trouble.
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#112 Hexagon_777
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Do what you like in Islamic nations, but leave the Ukraine, US, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Denmark, France, Britain, and Holland dafuq alone.
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#113 jesuschristmonk
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[QUOTE="jesuschristmonk"][QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

No it was not.

TehFuneral

Huh. Same color right?

Nope, Muhammad had a light skin.

Ah ok. Maybe this guy's his descendant lol.
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#114 GrayF0X786
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[QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

[QUOTE="jesuschristmonk"] Huh. Same color right?LJS9502_basic

Nope, Muhammad had a light skin.

Er how do you know that? Never were any pictures of him since you know....that can get someone in serious trouble.

we never had pictures of him because we didn't want to make the same mistake you christians did.

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#116 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Not a good idea. Government and religion should NEVER mix.LJS9502_basic
I disagree. For instance, the Decalogue was an inspiration for the United States government during its early years when the founders needed to construct an ethical foundation for their new country. [.

Yet the founders made sure the government was not involved in the religion of the people. A better idea. But hey if you want government mandated faith....there's plenty of countries in the ME to choose from....

More accurately they made sure government didn't interfere with religion.

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#117 ghoklebutter
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

Nope, Muhammad had a light skin.

GrayF0X786

Er how do you know that? Never were any pictures of him since you know....that can get someone in serious trouble.

we never had pictures of him because we didn't want to make the same mistake you christians did.

No, seeing a picture of Muhammad is not going to make you worship him.
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#118 TehFuneral
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[QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

[QUOTE="jesuschristmonk"] Huh. Same color right?LJS9502_basic

Nope, Muhammad had a light skin.

Er how do you know that? Never were any pictures of him since you know....that can get someone in serious trouble.

You can describe him though.

Also, many of his relics still remain.

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#119 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

Nope, Muhammad had a light skin.

GrayF0X786

Er how do you know that? Never were any pictures of him since you know....that can get someone in serious trouble.

we never had pictures of him because we didn't want to make the same mistake you christians did.

We didn't make any mistakes in that regard. If you want tolerance for your religion.....learn to practice it with others. Hypocrite.
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#120 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

Nope, Muhammad had a light skin.

GrayF0X786

Er how do you know that? Never were any pictures of him since you know....that can get someone in serious trouble.

we never had pictures of him because we didn't want to make the same mistake you christians did.

But...there IS pictures of him dating from the time period he was alive. As far as I know the same isn't true of Jesus.
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#121 GrayF0X786
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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Er how do you know that? Never were any pictures of him since you know....that can get someone in serious trouble.ghoklebutter

we never had pictures of him because we didn't want to make the same mistake you christians did.

No, seeing a picture of Muhammad is not going to make you worship him.

omg lol, what a dull way to put it, the reasons we don't have pictures is so we ONLY remember the teachings of Muhammad and nothing else, if you look inside mosques, their are no pictures at all, its so we are not distracted by creation, only stay in tune with our creator.

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#122 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

Nope, Muhammad had a light skin.

GrayF0X786

Er how do you know that? Never were any pictures of him since you know....that can get someone in serious trouble.

we never had pictures of him because we didn't want to maake the same mistake you christians did.

Meh, I'd give it 20 years before there are actors portraying him. They already have actors portraying Omar and Abu Bakr. There is Islamic art as well that showed his face, nobody cared.
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#123 Hexagon_777
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We are trying to advance and uplift humanity into a new age...Zeviander
Makes me wish Star Trek were real. :(

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#124 GrayF0X786
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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Er how do you know that? Never were any pictures of him since you know....that can get someone in serious trouble.BossPerson

we never had pictures of him because we didn't want to maake the same mistake you christians did.

Meh, I'd give it 20 years before there are actors portraying him. They already have actors portraying Omar and Abu Bakr. There is Islamic art as well that showed his face, nobody cared.

give it 1400 years, oh wait a minute.

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#125 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] we never had pictures of him because we didn't want to maake the same mistake you christians did.

GrayF0X786

Meh, I'd give it 20 years before there are actors portraying him. They already have actors portraying Omar and Abu Bakr. There is Islamic art as well that showed his face, nobody cared.

give it 1400 years, oh wait a minute.

you obviously didnt read the part where I said there were artistic portrayals of him.
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#126 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] we never had pictures of him because we didn't want to make the same mistake you christians did.

GrayF0X786

No, seeing a picture of Muhammad is not going to make you worship him.

omg lol, what a dull way to put it, the reasons we don't have pictures is so we ONLY remember the teachings of Muhammad and nothing else, if you look inside mosques, their are no pictures at all, its so we are not distracted by creation, only stay in tune with our creator.

What about the mosque built around his tomb.
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#127 jesuschristmonk
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[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] we never had pictures of him because we didn't want to make the same mistake you christians did.

GrayF0X786

No, seeing a picture of Muhammad is not going to make you worship him.

omg lol, what a dull way to put it, the reasons we don't have pictures is so we ONLY remember the teachings of Muhammad and nothing else, if you look inside mosques, their are no pictures at all, its so we are not distracted by creation, only stay in tune with our creator.

I can say I know one reason would be so people aren't going, "He had black skin, not light skin." "No. He was actually pale." And all that bullcrap.
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#128 TehFuneral
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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Er how do you know that? Never were any pictures of him since you know....that can get someone in serious trouble.ghoklebutter

we never had pictures of him because we didn't want to make the same mistake you christians did.

No, seeing a picture of Muhammad is not going to make you worship him.

Tbh it was more of honoring his request.

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#129 GrayF0X786
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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] No, seeing a picture of Muhammad is not going to make you worship him. Ace6301

omg lol, what a dull way to put it, the reasons we don't have pictures is so we ONLY remember the teachings of Muhammad and nothing else, if you look inside mosques, their are no pictures at all, its so we are not distracted by creation, only stay in tune with our creator.

What about the mosque built around his tomb.

that was for respect, the same happened for some of his companions and wifes, even up until the death of Salladin.

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#131 Communist_Soul
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[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="Neoklondiak"]What a coinsidence that this thread is made a day after my conversion to Islam.Neoklondiak

From what did you convert? And how did you consciously choose to adhere to the tenets of such a morally-backward, woman-hating, equality-denying faith?

Well there's this hot Iranian girl...

If you know what I mean.

If only Islam allowed inter-faith relationships.

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#132 GrayF0X786
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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] No, seeing a picture of Muhammad is not going to make you worship him. jesuschristmonk

omg lol, what a dull way to put it, the reasons we don't have pictures is so we ONLY remember the teachings of Muhammad and nothing else, if you look inside mosques, their are no pictures at all, its so we are not distracted by creation, only stay in tune with our creator.

I can say I know one reason would be so people aren't going, "He had black skin, not light skin." "No. He was actually pale." And all that bullcrap.

reminds me of Black Jesus in Africa. good lord.

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[QUOTE="Neoklondiak"]

[QUOTE="Zeviander"] From what did you convert? And how did you consciously choose to adhere to the tenets of such a morally-backward, woman-hating, equality-denying faith? Communist_Soul

Well there's this hot Iranian girl...

If you know what I mean.

If only Islam allowed inter-faith relationships.

I believe Muslims are allowed to marry "people of the book" meaning followers of abrahamic religions .
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[QUOTE="Neoklondiak"]

[QUOTE="Zeviander"] From what did you convert? And how did you consciously choose to adhere to the tenets of such a morally-backward, woman-hating, equality-denying faith? Communist_Soul

Well there's this hot Iranian girl...

If you know what I mean.

If only Islam allowed inter-faith relationships.

Muslims are able to marry Christians and Jews, no?
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#135 TehFuneral
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If only Islam allowed inter-faith relationships.

Communist_Soul

It does actually for Christians and Jews.

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#136 GrayF0X786
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[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

[QUOTE="Neoklondiak"]

Well there's this hot Iranian girl...

If you know what I mean.

Ravensmash

If only Islam allowed inter-faith relationships.

Muslims are able to marry Christians and Jews, no?

yeah but alot of Muslim women will make you convert if you want to win their heart :P

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#137 Communist_Soul
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[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

[QUOTE="Neoklondiak"]

Well there's this hot Iranian girl...

If you know what I mean.

BossPerson

If only Islam allowed inter-faith relationships.

I believe Muslims are allowed to marry "people of the book" meaning followers of abrahamic religions .

From what I read in the Koran male Muslims are allowed to marry "people of the book" females; while it's forbidden for Muslim females to marry outside the faith.

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#138 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] omg lol, what a dull way to put it, the reasons we don't have pictures is so we ONLY remember the teachings of Muhammad and nothing else, if you look inside mosques, their are no pictures at all, its so we are not distracted by creation, only stay in tune with our creator.

GrayF0X786

What about the mosque built around his tomb.

that was for respect, the same happened for some of his companions and wifes, even up until the death of Salladin.

Sounds like their attempt to ensure places of worship only focused on the scripture kind of failed in that case.
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#139 GrayF0X786
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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] What about the mosque built around his tomb. Ace6301

that was for respect, the same happened for some of his companions and wifes, even up until the death of Salladin.

Sounds like their attempt to ensure places of worship only focused on the scripture kind of failed in that case.

the people are never perfect.

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#140 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

If only Islam allowed inter-faith relationships.

Communist_Soul

I believe Muslims are allowed to marry "people of the book" meaning followers of abrahamic religions .

From what I read in the Koran male Muslims are allowed to marry "people of the book" females; while it's forbidden for Muslim females to marry outside the faith.

Figures. The religion does tend to elevate the men over the women.
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#141 jesuschristmonk
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[QUOTE="jesuschristmonk"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] omg lol, what a dull way to put it, the reasons we don't have pictures is so we ONLY remember the teachings of Muhammad and nothing else, if you look inside mosques, their are no pictures at all, its so we are not distracted by creation, only stay in tune with our creator.

GrayF0X786

I can say I know one reason would be so people aren't going, "He had black skin, not light skin." "No. He was actually pale." And all that bullcrap.

reminds me of Black Jesus in Africa. good lord.

Exactly what I was pointing at. Not like I give two sh!ts about what color Jesus was anyway, ain't going to make me believe in all of it lol.
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

If only Islam allowed inter-faith relationships.

Communist_Soul

I believe Muslims are allowed to marry "people of the book" meaning followers of abrahamic religions .

From what I read in the Koran male Muslims are allowed to marry "people of the book" females; while it's forbidden for Muslim females to marry outside the faith.

Yea, I believe thats correct.
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religions are destined to doom humanity.

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#144 GrayF0X786
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[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]I believe Muslims are allowed to marry "people of the book" meaning followers of abrahamic religions .LJS9502_basic

From what I read in the Koran male Muslims are allowed to marry "people of the book" females; while it's forbidden for Muslim females to marry outside the faith.

Figures. The religion does tend to elevate the men over the women.

its because the women regardless of her faith would generaly follow the husband you fvcktard, its 3am here dont start this sh!t.

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#145 Communist_Soul
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[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]I believe Muslims are allowed to marry "people of the book" meaning followers of abrahamic religions .BossPerson

From what I read in the Koran male Muslims are allowed to marry "people of the book" females; while it's forbidden for Muslim females to marry outside the faith.

Yea, I believe thats correct.

Quite, unfortunate it was set up like that.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

From what I read in the Koran male Muslims are allowed to marry "people of the book" females; while it's forbidden for Muslim females to marry outside the faith.

GrayF0X786

Figures. The religion does tend to elevate the men over the women.

its because the women regardless of her faith would generaly follow the husband you fvcktard, its 3am here dont start this sh!t.

You're the f*cktard. Not all women are easily swayed...and some men are. But thanks for proving the point that your religion thinks men are superior.;)
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[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]I believe Muslims are allowed to marry "people of the book" meaning followers of abrahamic religions .LJS9502_basic

From what I read in the Koran male Muslims are allowed to marry "people of the book" females; while it's forbidden for Muslim females to marry outside the faith.

Figures. The religion does tend to elevate the men over the women.

Its done because men are seen as figures of authority which would make the couple's children religion either Christianity or Jewish instead of Islam.

Imo I don't see it as "elevating men over women".

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#148 Communist_Soul
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

From what I read in the Koran male Muslims are allowed to marry "people of the book" females; while it's forbidden for Muslim females to marry outside the faith.

GrayF0X786

Figures. The religion does tend to elevate the men over the women.

its because the women regardless of her faith would generaly follow the husband you fvcktard, its 3am here dont start this sh!t.

Generalizations, not cool bro.

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#149 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

From what I read in the Koran male Muslims are allowed to marry "people of the book" females; while it's forbidden for Muslim females to marry outside the faith.

TehFuneral

Figures. The religion does tend to elevate the men over the women.

Its done because men are seen as figures of authority which would make the couple's children religion either Christianity or Jewish instead of Islam.

Imo I don't see it as "elevating men over women".

You don't see being a figure of authority as being elevated?
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#150 GrayF0X786
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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Figures. The religion does tend to elevate the men over the women.LJS9502_basic

its because the women regardless of her faith would generaly follow the husband you fvcktard, its 3am here dont start this sh!t.

Not all women are easily swayed...and some men are.

agreed.