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#151 GrayF0X786
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[QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Figures. The religion does tend to elevate the men over the women.LJS9502_basic

Its done because men are seen as figures of authority which would make the couple's children religion either Christianity or Jewish instead of Islam.

Imo I don't see it as "elevating men over women".

You don't see being a figure of authority as being elevated?

do you have boxing matches where a man fights a women? or football matches where the men and women are mixed in a team, i'm just curious.

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#152 TehFuneral
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[QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Figures. The religion does tend to elevate the men over the women.LJS9502_basic

Its done because men are seen as figures of authority which would make the couple's children religion either Christianity or Jewish instead of Islam.

Imo I don't see it as "elevating men over women".

You don't see being a figure of authority as being elevated?

Well, its in the Arabic culture than men must sustain the family for their wives.

I think the Italian culture is similar.

If a women is the one whos holding the family in terms of funds and the man is a stay home father then that would usually result in the man being made a mockery out in the society.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

Its done because men are seen as figures of authority which would make the couple's children religion either Christianity or Jewish instead of Islam.

Imo I don't see it as "elevating men over women".

GrayF0X786

You don't see being a figure of authority as being elevated?

do you have boxing matches where a man fights a women? or football matches where the men and women are mixed in a team, i'm just curious.

So men are naturally superior and more skilled when making decisions for the family or the kids? Please say yes.
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#155 Communist_Soul
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[QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Figures. The religion does tend to elevate the men over the women.LJS9502_basic

Its done because men are seen as figures of authority which would make the couple's children religion either Christianity or Jewish instead of Islam.

Imo I don't see it as "elevating men over women".

You don't see being a figure of authority as being elevated?

Yeah it clearly elevates men over women. At the time the Koran was written men did have that authority so I can see why it was created in such a way but since it was divine and ever lasting book they should have add an escape clause to allow women to marry outside the faith. As you can see at least in modern times, power in relationships tend to be about equal between the two parties.

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#156 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Figures. The religion does tend to elevate the men over the women.GrayF0X786

Its done because men are seen as figures of authority which would make the couple's children religion either Christianity or Jewish instead of Islam.

Imo I don't see it as "elevating men over women".

You don't see being a figure of authority as being elevated?

do you have boxing matches where a man fights a women? or football matches where the men and women are mixed in a team, i'm just curious.


I don't have boxing or football matches for anyone dude. Though comparing physical attributes is not the same as giving someone authority over others. You do know what authority means?
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#157 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]I believe Muslims are allowed to marry "people of the book" meaning followers of abrahamic religions .LJS9502_basic

From what I read in the Koran male Muslims are allowed to marry "people of the book" females; while it's forbidden for Muslim females to marry outside the faith.

Figures. The religion does tend to elevate the men over the women.

To be honest, some denominations of Christianity discourage interfaith marriage or require permission (Catholicism) before being granted - same with other religions. Although I'm interested in why females cannot.
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#158 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

From what I read in the Koran male Muslims are allowed to marry "people of the book" females; while it's forbidden for Muslim females to marry outside the faith.

Ravensmash
Figures. The religion does tend to elevate the men over the women.

To be honest, some denominations of Christianity discourage interfaith marriage or require permission (Catholicism) before being granted - same with other religions. Although I'm interested in why females cannot.

Permission? Not really. You're free to marry who you want.
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I suggest genocide
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#160 GrayF0X786
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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] You don't see being a figure of authority as being elevated?BossPerson

do you have boxing matches where a man fights a women? or football matches where the men and women are mixed in a team, i'm just curious.

So men are naturally superior and more skilled when making decisions for the family or the kids? Please say yes.

no

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#161 jesuschristmonk
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religions are destined to doom humanity.

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Most religions are fine. Taking them too seriously is when it gets out of control lol.
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#162 jesuschristmonk
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religions are destined to doom humanity.

quebec946
Most religions are fine. Taking them too seriously is when it gets out of control lol.
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#163 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="quebec946"]

religions are destined to doom humanity.

jesuschristmonk

Most religions are fine. Taking them too seriously is when it gets out of control lol.

religions by definition are meant to be taken seriously, thus are inherently detrimental.

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#164 Zeviander
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Maybe it's time for a new guy to follow. Ace6301
Or woman (much to the chagrin of Muslim men everywhere). Or no person but the individual self. We should all strive to be morally independent and practice cooperation and selfishness for their own sake.
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#165 TehFuneral
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So men are naturally superior and more skilled when making decisions for the family or the kids? Please say yes. BossPerson

Not at all.

Its just that children are the ones who's gonna carry the tribe's name and hence be the actual part of it, so they're gonna follow whatever their fathers tribe is doing and become enemies to whoever their fathers tribe is an enemy off (In terms of Arabic culture).

There had been occasions where powerful tribe chiefs children would be ridiculed and some times disowned because their mother is a slave or not Arabic.

This system and way of though is still alive.

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#166 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Figures. The religion does tend to elevate the men over the women.

To be honest, some denominations of Christianity discourage interfaith marriage or require permission (Catholicism) before being granted - same with other religions. Although I'm interested in why females cannot.

Permission? Not really. You're free to marry who you want.

I'm just going by Wikipedia and articles like this: http://foryourmarriage.org/catholic-marriage/church-teachings/interfaith-marriages/ Very easy to get caught wiki'ing related stuff once you start :(
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#167 jesuschristmonk
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[QUOTE="jesuschristmonk"][QUOTE="quebec946"]

religions are destined to doom humanity.

BossPerson
Most religions are fine. Taking them too seriously is when it gets out of control lol.

religions by definition are not meant to be taken seriously, thus are inherently detrimental.

Yep. Religions are meant to be practices, not meanings of life. I wonder how many ways I'd be killed if I mentioned that to one of those Supercenter Churches lol.
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#168 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="jesuschristmonk"][QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="jesuschristmonk"] Most religions are fine. Taking them too seriously is when it gets out of control lol.

religions by definition are not meant to be taken seriously, thus are inherently detrimental.

Yep. Religions are meant to be practices, not meanings of life. I wonder how many ways I'd be killed if I mentioned that to one of those Supercenter Churches lol.

lol see my edit. Accidentally gave my intended post an accidental 180
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#169 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] To be honest, some denominations of Christianity discourage interfaith marriage or require permission (Catholicism) before being granted - same with other religions. Although I'm interested in why females cannot.

Permission? Not really. You're free to marry who you want.

I'm just going by Wikipedia and articles like this: Very easy to get caught wiki'ing related stuff once you start :(

OH well Catholics have married outside of Catholicism for a long time. It's not a big deal. Seriously.
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#170 frannkzappa
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i love how this thread is no longer remotely related to the OP.

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#171 LJS9502_basic
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i love how this thread is no longer remotely related to the OP.

frannkzappa
OP is a bad bad idea.....
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#172 jesuschristmonk
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[QUOTE="jesuschristmonk"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]religions by definition are not meant to be taken seriously, thus are inherently detrimental. BossPerson
Yep. Religions are meant to be practices, not meanings of life. I wonder how many ways I'd be killed if I mentioned that to one of those Supercenter Churches lol.

lol see my edit. Accidentally gave my intended post an accidental 180

I guess your right. If you don't take them serious, then the followers won't get any money lol.
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#173 GrayF0X786
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i love how this thread is no longer remotely related to the OP.

frannkzappa

lol

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#174 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

i love how this thread is no longer remotely related to the OP.

LJS9502_basic

OP is a bad bad idea.....

Hey, it was fun to talk about though... i even got to go into my famous "mongols are amazing rant"

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#175 Ravensmash
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i love how this thread is no longer remotely related to the OP.

frannkzappa
Welcome to OT. 3 posts of discussion then 200 pages of spinning in circles :P
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#176 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

i love how this thread is no longer remotely related to the OP.

frannkzappa

OP is a bad bad idea.....

Hey, it was fun to talk about though... i even got to go into my famous "mongols are amazing rant"

Well it did get GrayFox all frustrated....again.:lol:
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#177 GrayF0X786
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] OP is a bad bad idea.....LJS9502_basic

Hey, it was fun to talk about though... i even got to go into my famous "mongols are amazing rant"

Well it did get GrayFox all frustrated....again.:lol:

LOL no it didn't, keep amusing yourself.

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#178 TehFuneral
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

i love how this thread is no longer remotely related to the OP.

frannkzappa

OP is a bad bad idea.....

Hey, it was fun to talk about though... i even got to go into my famous "mongols are amazing rant"

Im still not convinced though until I read a set of books about Mongols. :roll:

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#179 GrayF0X786
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and i always try to stay in the threads i make.....

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#180 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] OP is a bad bad idea.....TehFuneral

Hey, it was fun to talk about though... i even got to go into my famous "mongols are amazing rant"

Im still not convinced though until I read a set of books about Mongols. :roll:

youll be surprised.

the mongols are one of the most important groups in human history.

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#181 deactivated-59921cb703b3a
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So what kind of Islamic name should I change to? Suggestions are welcome.

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#182 GrayF0X786
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So what kind of Islamic name should I change to? Suggestions are welcome.

Neoklondiak

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#183 GrayF0X786
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IM OFF EVERYONE!

IT'S BEEN GREAT!

goodnight.

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#184 Communist_Soul
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] OP is a bad bad idea.....TehFuneral

Hey, it was fun to talk about though... i even got to go into my famous "mongols are amazing rant"

Im still not convinced though until I read a set of books about Mongols. :roll:

Well the Mongols did achieve a lot...and changed the world totally.

Sounds like you need a crash course in history http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szxPar0BcMo&feature=plcp

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#185 TehFuneral
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So what kind of Islamic name should I change to? Suggestions are welcome.

Neoklondiak

You seriously should not ask this question in GS OT. :lol:

Its not a must though, let your Imam name you.

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#186 deactivated-59921cb703b3a
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[QUOTE="Neoklondiak"]

So what kind of Islamic name should I change to? Suggestions are welcome.

TehFuneral

You seriously should not ask this question in GS OT. :lol:

Its not a must though, let your Imam name you.

Who/what is Imam?

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#188 TehFuneral
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[QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

Hey, it was fun to talk about though... i even got to go into my famous "mongols are amazing rant"

Communist_Soul

Im still not convinced though until I read a set of books about Mongols. :roll:

Well the Mongols did achieve a lot...and changed the world totally.

Sounds like you need a crash course in history http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szxPar0BcMo&feature=plcp

I never discredit their empire of anything :P

I already praised their war tactics, we were talking about their beliefs and ideology.

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#189 _VenomX
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Does this include Jihad?

[spoiler] jk :P [/spoiler]

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#190 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

[QUOTE="Neoklondiak"]

So what kind of Islamic name should I change to? Suggestions are welcome.

Neoklondiak

You seriously should not ask this question in GS OT. :lol:

Its not a must though, let your Imam name you.

Who/what is Imam?

Dude hanging out on the corner drinking from a paper bag......>__>
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#191 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

[QUOTE="Neoklondiak"]

So what kind of Islamic name should I change to? Suggestions are welcome.

Neoklondiak

You seriously should not ask this question in GS OT. :lol:

Its not a must though, let your Imam name you.

Who/what is Imam?

:lol:

Some convert.

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#192 TehFuneral
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[QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

[QUOTE="Neoklondiak"]

So what kind of Islamic name should I change to? Suggestions are welcome.

Neoklondiak

You seriously should not ask this question in GS OT. :lol:

Its not a must though, let your Imam name you.

Who/what is Imam?

A person who leads the prayer in the Mosque. :)

You know, someone who knows about Islam a lot.

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#193 deactivated-59921cb703b3a
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Another question. If I date this formentioned hot Muslim girl. Am I obligated to particiapte in jihad?

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#194 frannkzappa
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Another question. If I date this formentioned hot Muslim girl. Am I obligated to particiapte in jihad?

Neoklondiak

:lol:

thats a zinger.

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#195 TehFuneral
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Another question. If I date this formentioned hot Muslim girl. Am I obligated to particiapte in jihad?

Neoklondiak

:|

Im guessing you don't know what Jihad is don't you?

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#196 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Neoklondiak"]

Another question. If I date this formentioned hot Muslim girl. Am I obligated to particiapte in jihad?

TehFuneral

:|

Im guessing you don't know what Jihad is don't you?

Struggle?
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#197 CKYguy25
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what do you have against the Muslems?

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#198 DeathnoteSz
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So what kind of Islamic name should I change to? Suggestions are welcome.

Neoklondiak
Alluh AKhabar imam the third LOLL
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#199 ShadowMoses900
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Umm....no.

If your a Muslim then that's ok with me, freedom of religion and all that. I know plenty of good hard working Muslims. But I think I'll pass on whatever it is your trying to do, especially Sharia Law, which is just tyranny and oppressive and I hope it dies.

I wish the hardcore Muslims would just drop that, Sharia Law has no place in the civilized world.

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#200 deactivated-5e97585ea928c
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[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="Neoklondiak"]What a coinsidence that this thread is made a day after my conversion to Islam.Neoklondiak

From what did you convert? And how did you consciously choose to adhere to the tenets of such a morally-backward, woman-hating, equality-denying faith?

Well there's this hot Iranian girl...

If you know what I mean.

So you want to be able to beat her and get away with it?