Gun Attack on French Magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 12.

The "type of thing" that happened in France was due to repeated goading. It wasn't new: they had been firebombed before: received death threats and had security to guard them. They made themselfs a target with a big bull-eyes on there heads.

In the case of the unsuspecting public getting being shot and held hostage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Marathon_bombings#Dias_Kadyrbayev.2C_Azamat_Tazhayakov_and_Robel_Phillipos

Kalashnikov's, body armor and rocket launchers are not needed. Neither is traveling abroad for military training.

Chances are the brothers who committed the bombing had an easier time access weapons than the terrorists in France. Ultimately though: they opted for a simplstic bomb you could look up in 2 minutes on the internet.

Depends exactly on what part of Europe you are taking about and specifically what type of terrorism. Places like Russia have generally always been a hot-spot. In the case of my home (Scotland) you (as in Americans) are a far more hot target than me: regardless of difficultly. I am significantly safer in multitude of regards.

Ever heard of pre-orders?

Your point?

Xbox One preorders were dreadful compared to the PS4. When they changed their policy the preorders went up.

I guess you have been holding your NRA membership card abit to hard. Because that is utter nonsense.

Of course the gun control in the US have a direct impact on school shootings not to mention that peoples relaxed behaviour towards owning a gun have.

Go back to Columbine or take the recent major school shooting at the little school, and you will find that in both cases there were parents who allowed their kids to handle gun from a young age, not to mention that it was possible for them to purchase more quite easy.

Is the relaxed gun control the only cause of course not, the main reason is healthcare and that mentally ill kids does not get treatment in time or is even diagnosed. Particular in the last few cases its clear that you disturbed kids and because they had parents who neglected them, they were allowed to go untreated until they chose their path.

Because having the right to bear arms means control isn't possible. I guess you have been listening to NPR a little too much because this is utter nonsense and mostly unrelated.

The last paragraph is the real cause of shootings, not the 2nd amendment. I still find it funny how people like you think having the right to own a gun automatically means we gonz shoots puplz. I am not even an NRA member or a republican, but over simplifying a problem won't solve it.

@uninspiredcup Yep, more ad hominem attacks and condescending hypocrisy. More interested in attacking the poster then responding to the actual content. Unlike you I gave something to work with, instead of going with it you chose to attack.., again. Funny how you took a joke and tried to use it as some sort of evidence in an unrelated discussion. Again, if you want to be taken seriously, change your style.

@CreasianDevaili Don't waste your time.

Well, you are right the 2nd amendment is something that you just can't bypass. But you don´t actually need to. All you need is for better control, more strict control and then a rewrite of what actually is in a militia because i doubt the founding fathers´s idea in the 1800 is something that needs to be upheld today.

And while the mental issue is the biggest cause, you cannot ever hide the fact that something is wrong when you have 9 year old kids learning to shoot with uzi´s and other semi-automatic weapons. And that the super relaxed attuide towards owning guns even as a kid and lastly just how insanely easy it is to get a gun. Is also a major reason why we see school shootings.

Exactly, the 2nd amendment isn't as big of a roadblock as it is made out to be. Just because you have the right to own a gun a gun, doesn't mean all guns and everybody. Like with a car, different classes for different types of cars. The militia was however defined as separate from the rest a while back.

The real problem that needs fixing first is the root cause. Nine year olds should not have guns or be allowed to use them. Without dealing with the root cause shootings will continue. Poverty, poor integration of minorities, education and health care problems are all more important. The elephant in the room most ignore is how many guns are brought into the US illegally across the US-Mexico border causing a huge black market. Gun violence isn't a simple issue, it is a broad problem that needs addressing. Is it too much to ask for a single payer health care system and better monitoring of people with mental issues?

He mad.

Keep the ad hominem attacks coming. LOL

It's disgraceful that Obama didn't attend the "Terrorism Rally" in Paris today.

He should have been there to lock arms with the other perpetrators and financiers of state terror.

This is a serious thread about world problems, lets not talk about crappy children's toys that can't even do 1080p60fps on high end games.

How the hell we ended up discussing Xbox One or PS 4 sales in Charlie Hebdo thread ????? =P

We aren't. The subject there was can protest change a companies ethics. Someone used Xbox as an example of a company changing it's views because of peoples views, but I still think it's because they realised changing would help sales.

It's relevant because some people here seem to think the magazine should drastically change or go out of business simply because some people want them to. It's a completely unrealistic demand that ignores both how business work and morality.

Microsoft changed Xbox one as no one was interested in buying a Xbox one in beginning for strict restrictions on the console ( always have to be online ETC ), if they didn't changed Xbox one policies they'd suffer a big loss also customer dissatisfaction. Buisness it all about getting a customer to buy the product , so they had to change or suffer losses. It was all good from both side. In regard to Charlie hebdo, if it changes or stop publishing the magazines minority islamic community in france 'd be grateful, but majority'd (french people as highest consumers ) be dissatisfied as they will take it as infringement of freedom of speech and stop buying the magazines altogether. Don't think Charlie hebdo gonna lose sales what minority islamic community in france thinks otherwise. Now their sales gonna skyrocket also from before. In buisness sense, they won't stop and morality wise they shouldn't.The extrimists should take the magazine publications with a salt of water or demonstrate peaceful protest/rally/ complain if it really hurts thier sense of religion at most.

good on them, back to business as usual. these journalists are noble to continue on despite the horrifying acts committed upon them last week. we as people should NEVER allow ignorant ideologues influence how we act and how we think. especially when it comes to thousand year old religious nonsense.

My hat's off to the Charlie crew (and France as well). It's not easy to get back on track so soon.

i agree. it shows a strong determination and belief in what you do. these muslim extremists aren't going to stop them, freedom of thought and press will prevail.

Charlie Hebdo to Print 1 Million Muhammad Cartoons

Will it be published worldwide or just in france only? :)

I have to ask at this point. How popular are these people really? Their artstyle looks terrible to me and their jokes are cliched and predictable.

Cartoons sucks but it a challenge to extrimists now lol. I sincerely hope these asshats don't try anything again like go on a murdering rampage, but ignore or protest at best :)

They'll keep murdering people. I've stated my opinion on freedom of speech in this thread but I still do believe in one thing. Freedom has a price.

Consequences will be very harsh in France if they dare again, i'm telling you. All west will unite against this. Atmosphere very very tense around Euro atm.

Don't blame them. Some Muslims openly support the ISIS. They believe it to be the next caliphacy. The Islamic democracy we cherished so much during the time of our first four caliphs turned into a monarchy because of the umayyads. It's sad to see people supporting the umayyad type of caliphacy instead of the rashidun type.

Unfortunately they are not open minded and understanding as you :( I enjoy reading your posts, while you religious and respect/defend your religion always, never seen you support wrong idealogy like those of the extrimists :)

@indzman:

Thank you for the kind words. :-)

....and the west will continue to fight tooth and nail for that freedom, and rightfully so.

fighting for the right to express how you truly feel is as close to stupidity as possible? please explain.

make war not cartoons? nah, that's exactly how the terrorists look at it (and maybe even you lol), i'd much rather speak out against my enemies with hopes of knowledge and open mindedness to win them over. it may be a losing battle at times, but it's a battle i'm more than willing to fight. so no, i will not take your "advice" my friend, i will continue to stand up for the right to free expression. satire is a absolutely beautiful thing.

What's your point? You can fight "those who suppress your right to express" and express yourself too.

You just don't want them to print the cartoons, admit it.

have we not been trying to do that? yet we still have tragedies like this. what is your point? what are you trying to convey here? instead of screaming "FARCE!", explain yourself.

I don't know who the **** you mean by you since if you read on previous pages I was the one who expressly stated that once all hoopla and the "moment" passes then what? What is Europe actually prepare to do?

And again but can be done and should done. Protect free speech and exercise free speech.

Here is the new Charlie Hebdo cover:

It says: "All is forgiven".

^ so, the guy's head resembles a penis, (as well as his eyes and nose)..is it supposed to mean something?

You claim you don't support the terrorist but you basically try to justify their actions. Other religions get made fun of all the time and you don't see them trying to murder everything in sight. You guys need to join the modern age. If Islam is truly a religion of peace and you don't support these terrorist than take action and ostracize them from the community. Europe is getting fed up with crap especially since you immigrate to their countries and cause trouble. It seems nearly everyone European I've seen complains about how muslims and middle easterners are ruining neighborhoods becoming violent.

These idiotic terrorist don't seem to realize that first world nations are holding back on them. 1st world nations are trying to be nice to middle east by trying to eliminate individual threats that are the root of this problem it seems they're like cockroaches, you squish one and 5 more come out. If we truly wanted terrorist attacks to stop we could do to the Middle East the same thing America did to Japan in WW2 to put them in their place, they're really lucky that their land is full of resources otherwise the Middle East would be nothing but a mirror to aliens in space.

This entire situation reminds me of that scene in Star Wars: A New Hope where Obi-wan tells Vader "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine" and that is exactly what has happened. Prior to the attack they were an obscure magazine very few people heard of and now even people who actually do live under a rock know about the magazine. The dark side never learns...

I'm sure it's unintentional. It's just their artstyle that looks like penis. I'm sure even if you were to tell them to draw a serious picture of some landscape that too would look like a penis. They really shouldn't have skipped those art lessons back in high school imo.

I think it's about as unintentional as Top Gears H982 FKL license plate lol

@wis3boi said:

@KingKinect said:

This entire situation reminds me of that scene in Star Wars: A New Hope where Obi-wan tells Vader "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine" and that is exactly what has happened. Prior to the attack they were an obscure magazine very few people heard of and now even people who actually do live under a rock know about the magazine. The dark side never learns...

Nice. Great minds think alike. Or perhaps in this case sacrilegious, perverted and deranged minds think alike :)

i very much doubt it's unintentional. just look at where those circles are put on his turban.lol

@NoodleFighter: You know you are supporting mass genocide right. It's like in assassins creed where you have the ideology of the Templars. Ridding evil with a greater evil.

Also I hope you understand that I do not support the terrorists. If I came off as justifying their actions then I apologize. Realize also that the greatest enemy of the Muslims are not the Americans nor the Europeans, etc. the greatest enemy of Muslims are Muslims.

@BboyStatix:

Don't be too hard on him. Nukes in both fiction and real life are often the solution to Americas problems. How many Shinto extremists are there these days? Not many thanks to nukes and that isn't even counting all the times nukes have saved the world in fiction. Armageddon, The Core to name a few. Many people would be scared and frightened if they ever discovered there are some problems that can't be solved with nukes.

Personally I'm terrified of an ideology that nukes or the use of force in general only makes stronger but at the moment the use of force making something stronger seems more like an Islamic extremist problem than a western one.