h0m0sexu@lity choice or born that way???

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#52 Shadow4020
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You're born with certain attractions that you can't control.

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#53 DroidPhysX
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A result of a fallen humanity, something to be overcome not celebrated and embraced.

Philokalia

Interesting

I shall consult my catholic priest on the matter

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#54 Philokalia
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Interesting

I shall consult my catholic priest on the matter

DroidPhysX

Avoid the liberals.

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#55 -Sun_Tzu-
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A result of a fallen humanity, something to be overcome not celebrated and embraced.

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#56 TacticalDesire
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Interesting

I shall consult my catholic priest on the matter

Philokalia

Avoid the liberals.

Like this dude?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/pastor-jailed-for-fondling-boy-2258568.html

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#57 Philokalia
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Like this dude?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/pastor-jailed-for-fondling-boy-2258568.html

TacticalDesire

Well if you consider him a liberal....

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#58 Philokalia
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-Sun_Tzu-

I did have a good day today thanks for asking.

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#59 slipknot0129
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Its a choice. I could like guys if I wanted to but I dont.

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#60 TacticalDesire
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[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

Like this dude?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/pastor-jailed-for-fondling-boy-2258568.html

Philokalia

Well if you consider him a liberal....

Given his evangelical views I wouldn't, but it's possible I suppose.

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#61 AdamPA1006
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I lean towards choice, but our childhood experiences pretty much shape who we turn out to be. I vote for your childhood experiences strongly affecting your sexuality.
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#62 DroidPhysX
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I lean towards choice, but our childhood experiences pretty much shape who we turn out to be. I vote for your childhood experiences strongly affecting your sexuality. AdamPA1006
Bible preachin' priest has a gay son? How can that happen?
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#63 CycleOfViolence
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[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]I lean towards choice, but our childhood experiences pretty much shape who we turn out to be. I vote for your childhood experiences strongly affecting your sexuality. DroidPhysX
Bible preachin' priest has a gay son? How can that happen?

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#64 Vac87
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I considered being gay but decided not to pursue it, for various reasons.

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#65 Capitan_Kid
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I considered being gay but decided not to pursue it, for various reasons.

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Good choice. Boobs are awesome brah
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#66 Optical_Order
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Just like the leftists. Born that way.

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#67 AdamPA1006
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Just because you claim to be born a certain way doenst mean society has to bend to it. Pedophiles, Sexual attraction towards animals, attraction to brother or sister.....

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Just because you claim to be born a certain way doenst mean society has to bend to it. Pedophiles, Sexual attraction towards animals, attraction to brother or sister.....

AdamPA1006
Ah yes here we go, morons comparing homosexuality to beastiality, incest and pedophilia..
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#69 deactivated-59d151f079814
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I considered being gay but decided not to pursue it, for various reasons.

Vac87
... No your still in fact gay if your attracted to the same sex.
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#70 slipknot0129
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[QUOTE="Vac87"]

I considered being gay but decided not to pursue it, for various reasons.

Capitan_Kid

Good choice. Boobs are awesome brah

About 10% ive seen are pleasing to my eyes.

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Just because you claim to be born a certain way doenst mean society has to bend to it. Pedophiles, Sexual attraction towards animals, attraction to brother or sister.....

AdamPA1006

homosexuality =/= pedophilia, bestiality, and/or incest.

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#72 soulless4now
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Just ask Lady Gaga.

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:x I was going to say that.
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#73 layton2012
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[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

Just because you claim to be born a certain way doenst mean society has to bend to it. Pedophiles, Sexual attraction towards animals, attraction to brother or sister.....

CycleOfViolence

homosexuality =/= pedophilia, bestiality, and/or incest.

This, seriously people, this kind of uneducated crap is why the BSA won't allow gay scouts.
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[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

Just because you claim to be born a certain way doenst mean society has to bend to it. Pedophiles, Sexual attraction towards animals, attraction to brother or sister.....

CycleOfViolence

homosexuality =/= pedophilia, bestiality, and/or incest.

Its a sexual attraction. That people claim to be born with. I dont see the difference. I honestly dont.
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#75 AdamPA1006
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Oh yeah, and people switch between gay and straight all the time, which proves that its a choice.

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#76 Blood-Scribe
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I have yet to see a compelling reason why it'd be a choice, especially considering the social stigma that comes with it. Though I don't know if it's determined at birth due to genetic pre-disposition (which I kinda doubt because then I'd think that you could trace homosexuality through a lineage, but then again I don't know sh!t about genetics), or some combination of hormonal and social influences. In any case, even if it were a matter of choice, I still wouldn't have a reason to condemn it.
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#77 Capitan_Kid
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[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"][QUOTE="Vac87"]

I considered being gay but decided not to pursue it, for various reasons.

slipknot0129

Good choice. Boobs are awesome brah

About 10% ive seen are pleasing to my eyes.

What? Have you been looking at old hag saggy boobs? 8/10 boobs are not bad
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#78 IdioticIcarus
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Oh yeah, and people switch between gay and straight all the time, which proves that its a choice.

AdamPA1006

Really?

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#79 TopTierHustler
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I always go with the science.

Science!!!!

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#80 slipknot0129
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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"] Good choice. Boobs are awesome brahCapitan_Kid

About 10% ive seen are pleasing to my eyes.

What? Have you been looking at old hag saggy boobs? 8/10 boobs are not bad

Ive seen em all. Not much has impressed me.

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#81 Serraph105
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not a choice.

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#82 lo_Pine
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I don't think its a choice. If you think it is a choice as a result of your empathy, you may be a bi-sexual as you can't have empathy without feeling like you know what they are going through.

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#83 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="CycleOfViolence"]

[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

Just because you claim to be born a certain way doenst mean society has to bend to it. Pedophiles, Sexual attraction towards animals, attraction to brother or sister.....

AdamPA1006

homosexuality =/= pedophilia, bestiality, and/or incest.

Its a sexual attraction. That people claim to be born with. I dont see the difference. I honestly dont.

Homosexuals are effectively the same in attraction as a heterosexual, only with the same gender. Pedophiles are attracted to a group which is very easily manipulated and the actions have been shown to cause significant trauma in the children abused. Beastiality is between two different species and the animal cannot consent. Incest is not a sexual attraction. It's just what we call when close relatives have sex. Those who commit incest are generally attracted to all members of the same sex as the person they commit incest with. If you can't see the difference between two adults having sex and an adult having sex with a child or a dog I think you may need help.
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#85 layton2012
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[QUOTE="CycleOfViolence"]

[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]

Just because you claim to be born a certain way doenst mean society has to bend to it. Pedophiles, Sexual attraction towards animals, attraction to brother or sister.....

AdamPA1006

homosexuality =/= pedophilia, bestiality, and/or incest.

Its a sexual attraction. That people claim to be born with. I dont see the difference. I honestly dont.

Many heterosexuals claim to be born attracted to the opposite sex, are they basically pedophiles too?
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#86 Mario_Eater
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What's it matter anyways?
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#87 TheWalkingGhost
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OY Vay. This thread again?
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#88 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Why do we need a thread on this so much?

It's obviously not a choice. You aren't given a choice as to what you're attracted to.

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#89 slipknot0129
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Why do we need a thread on this so much?

It's obviously not a choice. You aren't given a choice as to what you're attracted to.

airshocker

Still a choice though.

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#90 ghoklebutter
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Who cares? It doesn't hurt anyone.
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#91 CHOASXIII
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Who cares? It doesn't hurt anyone.ghoklebutter

Only..never mind nope.

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#92 ghoklebutter
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[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]Who cares? It doesn't hurt anyone.CHOASXIII

Only..never mind nope.

hehehe
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#93 lancea34
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Mike-uk"]

According to the scriptures it is a choice. No one is born a homosexual.

Mike-uk

According to modern science it's genetic and indeed stems from nature.

Modern science will get things wrong from time to time. Not everything said from modern science will be correct. We must take that into account, especially when the scriptures say otherwise.



You can't be fvcking serious.

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#94 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Still a choice though.

slipknot0129

No, methinks you don't know the definition. Sex is a choice, attraction isn't.

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[QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="Smatmat"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"] I think it has something to do with Popsicles and candy corn. As long as that's involved then it's wrong.

I am serious. Shouldn't you know this? I thought you were going to be a priest or something of that nature.

I think you need to have a talk with your parents about these sexual things, rather than learning about them from me on the internet.

I have my own opinions on what "counts". I was wondering what your's were. Its kind of important to know how far I can go with another man before I am commiting the gay sin.
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#96 mindstorm
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Both. That is, there is very much a sense in which a person might by his natural inclinations have homosexual leanings. However, giving into temptations by entering into a homosexual relationship very much is a choice.
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#97 Assassin_87
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According to the scriptures it is a choice. No one is born a homosexual.

Mike-uk

There is no Biblical support for the idea that homosexuality is a choice.

Then again, looks like you're trolling.

On-topic: It's from birth. Why would anyone willingly choose to be gay?

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#98 Aquat1cF1sh
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It is not a choice, or else everyone would be able to turn themselves gay. Also, for those saying it's still a choice to act on it, be careful of how you use the word choice; it's not any choice, it's a Hobson's choice. It's like telling people who are left-handed that they can only write with their right hand.
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#99 slipknot0129
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[QUOTE="Mike-uk"]

According to the scriptures it is a choice. No one is born a homosexual.

Assassin_87

There is no Biblical support for the idea that homosexuality is a choice.

Then again, looks like you're trolling.

On-topic: It's from birth. Why would anyone willingly choose to be gay?

If it wasnt a choice then it wouldnt ba a sin.

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#100 tenaka2
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Its all in the genes

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