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#251 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="omho88"] psyhcologically for a start. I assume that I am not the only one who gets offended by it, that's when the minority kindly do what they want at home not in public.omho88

So if somebody has a phobia of beards, then beards should be illegal?

You're the one with the problem, so it's you who should change.

Seriously ..... beards VS gays !!! I have abetter anaolog gays VS incest !!!! if you really do accept gays, then do you accept incest ?!!!

Just answer this: Why don't you accept two people of the same sex loving each other? Why is it such a strong issue for you?
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="omho88"] psyhcologically for a start. I assume that I am not the only one who gets offended by it, that's when the minority kindly do what they want at home not in public.omho88
Why does it offend you psychologically? Should gay couples be locked up in their houses and only allowed out when the sun goes down?

Well, I didn't say that .... it's complicated ... I dun really have a complete picture of what gays should look like in the society ... but nowhere near a normal couple .... I know this doesn't make alot of sense but that's all I got for now.

So you know your views don't make sense, but you continue to stick by them?

Like I said earlier, it's not gays with a problem, it's you.

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#253 omho88
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[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

So if somebody has a phobia of beards, then beards should be illegal?

You're the one with the problem, so it's you who should change.

toast_burner

Seriously ..... beards VS gays !!! I have abetter anaolog gays VS incest !!!! if you really do accept gays, then do you accept incest ?!!!

I don't see why incest should be illegal as long as they are both of the age of consent.

there is no point of continuing this discussion .... normally the human nature control this kind of stuff .... gay incest ....etc ...all are condemned by nature .... if you dun respect that, then do as you desire, but as long as they are more ppl who refuse to accept that, the balance will be kept ... democracy for you.
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[QUOTE="omho88"] Seriously ..... beards VS gays !!! I have abetter anaolog gays VS incest !!!! if you really do accept gays, then do you accept incest ?!!! omho88

I don't see why incest should be illegal as long as they are both of the age of consent.

there is no point of continuing this discussion .... normally the human nature control this kind of stuff .... gay incest ....etc ...all are condemned by nature .... if you dun respect that, then do as you desire, but as long as they are more ppl who refuse to accept that, the balance will be kept ... democracy for you.

Nature isn't a sentient being, it is impossible to go against nature as everything that happens is natural.

If being gay wasn't natural, gays wouldn't exist.

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#255 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="omho88"] Seriously ..... beards VS gays !!! I have abetter anaolog gays VS incest !!!! if you really do accept gays, then do you accept incest ?!!! omho88

I don't see why incest should be illegal as long as they are both of the age of consent.

there is no point of continuing this discussion .... normally the human nature control this kind of stuff .... gay incest ....etc ...all are condemned by nature .... if you dun respect that, then do as you desire, but as long as they are more ppl who refuse to accept that, the balance will be kept ... democracy for you.

How is it condemned by nature? there are many examples of homosexual activity between animals
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[QUOTE="omho88"] Seriously ..... beards VS gays !!! I have abetter anaolog gays VS incest !!!! if you really do accept gays, then do you accept incest ?!!! omho88

I don't see why incest should be illegal as long as they are both of the age of consent.

there is no point of continuing this discussion .... normally the human nature control this kind of stuff .... gay incest ....etc ...all are condemned by nature .... if you dun respect that, then do as you desire, but as long as they are more ppl who refuse to accept that, the balance will be kept ... democracy for you.

No.

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#257 omho88
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[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

I don't see why incest should be illegal as long as they are both of the age of consent.

Ravensmash
there is no point of continuing this discussion .... normally the human nature control this kind of stuff .... gay incest ....etc ...all are condemned by nature .... if you dun respect that, then do as you desire, but as long as they are more ppl who refuse to accept that, the balance will be kept ... democracy for you.

How is it condemned by nature? there are many examples of homosexual activity between animals

They are animals ?!!!!! you do realize that ...
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="omho88"] there is no point of continuing this discussion .... normally the human nature control this kind of stuff .... gay incest ....etc ...all are condemned by nature .... if you dun respect that, then do as you desire, but as long as they are more ppl who refuse to accept that, the balance will be kept ... democracy for you.omho88
How is it condemned by nature? there are many examples of homosexual activity between animals

They are animals ?!!!!! you do realize that ...

Humans are also animals.

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#259 omho88
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[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Why does it offend you psychologically? Should gay couples be locked up in their houses and only allowed out when the sun goes down?toast_burner

Well, I didn't say that .... it's complicated ... I dun really have a complete picture of what gays should look like in the society ... but nowhere near a normal couple .... I know this doesn't make alot of sense but that's all I got for now.

So you know your views don't make sense, but you continue to stick by them?

Like I said earlier, it's not gays with a problem, it's you.

Sorry for being heterosexual !!!
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[QUOTE="omho88"] Well, I didn't say that .... it's complicated ... I dun really have a complete picture of what gays should look like in the society ... but nowhere near a normal couple .... I know this doesn't make alot of sense but that's all I got for now.omho88

So you know your views don't make sense, but you continue to stick by them?

Like I said earlier, it's not gays with a problem, it's you.

Sorry for being heterosexual !!!

Not all heterosexuals are homophobic.

A phobia is a type of anxiety disorder, you've got a problem, you may need to talk to someone about it.

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#261 lowkey254
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it's a choice to act on it. People can be born as psychopaths, but it's a choice to make those actions just the same.

Ravensmash
But this is something as benign as sexual relations between consenting adults. Is it wrong for those people to act on it, if no harm comes from it? I don't understand the psychopath analogy tbh.

I never said that it's right or wrong. The question is whether or not homosexuality is something you're born with or choose. I'm saying that it's a choice to act on either way. The psychopath analogy: Psychopaths are born that way. You choose to act out those urges as a psychopath, but it doesn't mean you'll be a murderer. Many CEOs are psychopaths (link). My point is, you can be born a certain way and choose to act on it.
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#262 omho88
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[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] How is it condemned by nature? there are many examples of homosexual activity between animalstoast_burner

They are animals ?!!!!! you do realize that ...

Humans are also animals.

Humans are humans .... we may share some stuff with animals .... animals live by the jungle law .... do we live by the jungle law?
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#263 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="omho88"] Well, I didn't say that .... it's complicated ... I dun really have a complete picture of what gays should look like in the society ... but nowhere near a normal couple .... I know this doesn't make alot of sense but that's all I got for now.omho88

So you know your views don't make sense, but you continue to stick by them?

Like I said earlier, it's not gays with a problem, it's you.

Sorry for being heterosexual !!!

I'm heterosexual too, so what? And regarding your animal comment - that completely goes against it being 'condemned by nature' whatever that means.
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[QUOTE="omho88"] They are animals ?!!!!! you do realize that ...omho88

Humans are also animals.

Humans are humans .... we may share some stuff with animals .... animals live by the jungle law .... do we live by the jungle law?

What the hell is jungle law? Humans are animals, this is a fact.

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#265 TheFlush
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I am homosexual and I know for a fact that I have never chosen to be this way. It's not really all that fun to hide your true self for the world you know. Many people are already insecure during puberty, add homosexuality in the mix and it's double fun!

Furthermore, scripture does not and will not dictate my life, ever. I don't really care what some religion might have to say about it, I don't follow any religion, so it does not impact my life. I'm in a loving relationship with my guy for 13 years now and no religious wacko is going to change that. Please enjoy your OWN life and stay out of the lives of others. Thank you.

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[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

So you know your views don't make sense, but you continue to stick by them?

Like I said earlier, it's not gays with a problem, it's you.

toast_burner

Sorry for being heterosexual !!!

Not all heterosexuals are homophobic.

A phobia is a type of anxiety disorder, you've got a problem, you may need to talk to someone about it.

I dun see it affecting me in any reasonable way .... so I dun mind .
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[QUOTE="omho88"] Sorry for being heterosexual !!!omho88

Not all heterosexuals are homophobic.

A phobia is a type of anxiety disorder, you've got a problem, you may need to talk to someone about it.

I dun see it affecting me in any reasonable way .... so I dun mind .

You just admitted that seeing homosexuals 'hurts' you. Wouldn't it be nicer if you didn't have to worry about where someone was sticking their genitals?
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[QUOTE="omho88"] Sorry for being heterosexual !!!omho88

Not all heterosexuals are homophobic.

A phobia is a type of anxiety disorder, you've got a problem, you may need to talk to someone about it.

I dun see it affecting me in any reasonable way .... so I dun mind .

Earlier you said your phobia of gays is harming you psychologically.

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#269 BuryMe
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We all know the answer to that. Ask your self if you chose your orientation.

There. You have your answer.

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[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Not all heterosexuals are homophobic.

A phobia is a type of anxiety disorder, you've got a problem, you may need to talk to someone about it.

toast_burner

I dun see it affecting me in any reasonable way .... so I dun mind .

Earlier you said your phobia of gays is harming you psychologically.

Aww, is he that insecure? If he lets something that trivial bother him? kind of sad actually.

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Ok, if its a choice to be homosexual, then tell me: Why did you choose to be straight? HOW did you choose to be straight? Owned.
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[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Not all heterosexuals are homophobic.

A phobia is a type of anxiety disorder, you've got a problem, you may need to talk to someone about it.

Ravensmash

I dun see it affecting me in any reasonable way .... so I dun mind .

Earlier you said your phobia of gays is harming you psychologically.

It does and yet I am not worrying coz no matter how hard you try ... those sexual acts will still be condemnded ... not really an issue at the moment.
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="omho88"] I dun see it affecting me in any reasonable way .... so I dun mind .omho88

Earlier you said your phobia of gays is harming you psychologically.

It does and yet I am not worrying coz no matter how hard you try ... those sexual acts will still be condemnded ... not really an issue at the moment.

That makes as much sense as locking up all Muslims so that they won't offend radical Christians who can't tolerate anyone different to them.

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[QUOTE="omho88"] I dun see it affecting me in any reasonable way .... so I dun mind .TheFlush

Earlier you said your phobia of gays is harming you psychologically.

Aww, is he that insecure? If he lets something that trivial bother him? kind of sad actually.

You call it insecurity .... I call it being a normal person.
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[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Not all heterosexuals are homophobic.

A phobia is a type of anxiety disorder, you've got a problem, you may need to talk to someone about it.

Ravensmash

I dun see it affecting me in any reasonable way .... so I dun mind .

You just admitted that seeing homosexuals 'hurts' you. Wouldn't it be nicer if you didn't have to worry about where someone was sticking their genitals?

Wouldnt it be nicer if he made some sense?

This whole thing... hurts me.

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Earlier you said your phobia of gays is harming you psychologically.

omho88

Aww, is he that insecure? If he lets something that trivial bother him? kind of sad actually.

You call it insecurity .... I call it being a normal person.

Phobias are not normal, it's a type of disorder.

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="omho88"] I dun see it affecting me in any reasonable way .... so I dun mind .omho88

Earlier you said your phobia of gays is harming you psychologically.

It does and yet I am not worrying coz no matter how hard you try ... those sexual acts will still be condemnded ... not really an issue at the moment.

Why should they be condemned? Why can't people live their lives the way they see fit? If you wanted to have sex with a man, then who am I to condemn you ?
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[QUOTE="omho88"] You call it insecurity .... I call it being a normal person.

Oh, please keeps these comments coming. I haven't laughed this hard in ages.
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[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"]

Earlier you said your phobia of gays is harming you psychologically.

toast_burner

It does and yet I am not worrying coz no matter how hard you try ... those sexual acts will still be condemnded ... not really an issue at the moment.

That makes as much sense as locking up all Muslims so that they won't offend radical Christians who can't tolerate anyone different to them.

wouldn't locking up radical people easier to do than locking up all muslims ?!! Gays are the minority !!!
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[QUOTE="Assassin_87"]

[QUOTE="Mike-uk"]

According to the scriptures it is a choice. No one is born a homosexual.

slipknot0129

There is no Biblical support for the idea that homosexuality is a choice.

Then again, looks like you're trolling.

On-topic: It's from birth. Why would anyone willingly choose to be gay?

If it wasnt a choice then it wouldnt ba a sin.

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[QUOTE="omho88"] It does and yet I am not worrying coz no matter how hard you try ... those sexual acts will still be condemnded ... not really an issue at the moment.omho88

That makes as much sense as locking up all Muslims so that they won't offend radical Christians who can't tolerate anyone different to them.

wouldn't locking up radical people easier to do than locking up all muslims ?!! Gays are the minority !!!

In the UK (where I'm from) Muslims make up about 10% of the population. they are a minority, so by your logic it would be ok to discriminate against them, yes?

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[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

That makes as much sense as locking up all Muslims so that they won't offend radical Christians who can't tolerate anyone different to them.

toast_burner

wouldn't locking up radical people easier to do than locking up all muslims ?!! Gays are the minority !!!

In the UK (where I'm from) Muslims make up about 10% of the population. they are a minority, so by your logic it would be ok to discriminate against them, yes?

So the remaining 90% are radical persons ? God, how are you living there?
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#283 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="omho88"] wouldn't locking up radical people easier to do than locking up all muslims ?!! Gays are the minority !!!omho88

In the UK (where I'm from) Muslims make up about 10% of the population. they are a minority, so by your logic it would be ok to discriminate against them, yes?

So the remaining 90% are radical persons ? God, how are you living there?

What? Make some sense for once.
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From what I'm seeing, the homophobic types who think being different is a choice are the unnatural ones. They expect conformity because they're far too insecure to be true to themselves, so they would prefer that others suffer as the narrow minded demand. Anyone who is born differently from the narrow minded people of the world can not live a lie, to do so is not to live at all but to be locked within themselves and to suffer a constant nightmare while forced to be someone they can never be. Such a demand is abusive, an infringement on basic rights to be allowed to live as they are born to be and an example of trying to control people's lives.
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[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

In the UK (where I'm from) Muslims make up about 10% of the population. they are a minority, so by your logic it would be ok to discriminate against them, yes?

Ravensmash
So the remaining 90% are radical persons ? God, how are you living there?

What? Make some sense for once.

I was mocking him .... he is giving a terrible analogy .coz even tho muslims are minority, radicals are much much more smaller than muslims in UK .
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One last thing .... I see that some people here accept gays and everthing around and go for even more unnatural thingsl like accepting incest to justify what they think. Very fine by me .... just dun forget that there will be more people who dun accept that for wutever reason.

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="omho88"] So the remaining 90% are radical persons ? God, how are you living there?omho88
What? Make some sense for once.

I was mocking him .... he is giving a terrible analogy .coz even tho muslims are minority, radicals are much much more smaller than muslims in UK .

Well you seem to be deluded that most people agree with you, which is not true at all.

Homophobes are also a dying breed just like radical religious people. So hypothetically if most people were insane like you and thought Muslims were bad, you'd have no problem with them outlawing Islam?

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One last thing .... I see that some people here accept gays and everthing around and go for even more unnatural thingsl like accepting incest to justify what they think. Very fine by me .... just dun forget that there will be more people who dun accept that for wutever reason.

omho88
Is English your second language?
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#289 omho88
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[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] What? Make some sense for once.toast_burner

I was mocking him .... he is giving a terrible analogy .coz even tho muslims are minority, radicals are much much more smaller than muslims in UK .

Well you seem to be deluded that most people agree with you, which is not true at all.

Homophobes are also a dying breed just like radical religious people. So hypothetically if most people were insane like you and thought Muslims were bad, you'd have no problem with them outlawing Islam?

Like what's happening in Burma .... I would probabely be in ur shoes defending what I believe but being gay and being a muslim/ athiest is totally different things. And from a sanity point of view ... you have exceeded all the boundries, accepting incest, claiming that humans are animals and that's why being gay is totally accepted ..... therapy isn't even enough, you need a reboot.
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#290 omho88
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One last thing .... I see that some people here accept gays and everthing around and go for even more unnatural thingsl like accepting incest to justify what they think. Very fine by me .... just dun forget that there will be more people who dun accept that for wutever reason.

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Yep, god damn it .... I thought my english is great but everytime and revise a post of mine, I notice alot of mistakes.
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#291 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="omho88"] I was mocking him .... he is giving a terrible analogy .coz even tho muslims are minority, radicals are much much more smaller than muslims in UK .omho88

Well you seem to be deluded that most people agree with you, which is not true at all.

Homophobes are also a dying breed just like radical religious people. So hypothetically if most people were insane like you and thought Muslims were bad, you'd have no problem with them outlawing Islam?

Like what's happening in Burma .... I would probabely be in ur shoes defending what I believe but being gay and being a muslim/ athiest is totally different things. And from a sanity point of view ... you have exceeded all the boundries, accepting incest, claiming that humans are animals and that's why being gay is totally accepted ..... therapy isn't even enough, you need a reboot.

You're right. Although awful that people get persecuted for their beliefs, religion is typically a choice made by a person. Sexuality is not. It's silly to compare sexuality to a religion.

And no, you claimed that nature condemned it, got proven wrong (again) so have spun the argument round. What would you do if a friend of yours came out as gay

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#292 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="omho88"] I was mocking him .... he is giving a terrible analogy .coz even tho muslims are minority, radicals are much much more smaller than muslims in UK .omho88

Well you seem to be deluded that most people agree with you, which is not true at all.

Homophobes are also a dying breed just like radical religious people. So hypothetically if most people were insane like you and thought Muslims were bad, you'd have no problem with them outlawing Islam?

Like what's happening in Burma .... I would probabely be in ur shoes defending what I believe but being gay and being a muslim/ athiest is totally different things. And from a sanity point of view ... you have exceeded all the boundries, accepting incest, claiming that humans are animals and that's why being gay is totally accepted ..... therapy isn't even enough, you need a reboot.

You are yet to give one reason why being gay is wrong in any way. To discriminate agsinst someone based on their sexuality is no different then to do so based on their religion, race or gender.

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#294 omho88
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[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Well you seem to be deluded that most people agree with you, which is not true at all.

Homophobes are also a dying breed just like radical religious people. So hypothetically if most people were insane like you and thought Muslims were bad, you'd have no problem with them outlawing Islam?

Ravensmash

Like what's happening in Burma .... I would probabely be in ur shoes defending what I believe but being gay and being a muslim/ athiest is totally different things. And from a sanity point of view ... you have exceeded all the boundries, accepting incest, claiming that humans are animals and that's why being gay is totally accepted ..... therapy isn't even enough, you need a reboot.

You're right. Although awful that people get persecuted for their beliefs, religion is typically a choice made by a person. Sexuality is not. It's silly to compare sexuality to a religion.

And no, you claimed that nature condemned it, got proven wrong (again) so have spun the argument round. What would you do if a friend of yours came out as gay

I hope you aren't agreeing wz him on "the animals can be gays so we can be as well" ..... I was like

26553260.pngI dun know about my friend, I would eventually accept it .... but I think my relation with him could be uch more limited ... I think.

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#295 omho88
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[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="SteverXIII"] Is English your second language?

Yep, god damn it .... I thought my english is great but everytime and revise a post of mine, I notice alot of mistakes.

Here's a tip. The word "dun" doesn't mean the same thing as "don't."

Is that it?
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There is not enough evidence to confirm one way or another, the "studies" that are done are often done by special interest groups with political agendas on both sides of the debate. I

MO I think it's a developmental process, genetically there is no such thing as a gay gene, it wouldn't survive evolution process in humans. Especially because with identical twins, one can be gay and the other straight, if it was genetic then both would be gay.

I don't think it's really a clean cut choice either, you can't wake up one moring and say "I'm going to be gay today", it doesn't work like that. I think it's a mindset, it's something that you develop through environmental circumstances. Look at prison for proof of this, men go in there completely straight, but end up being gay or bi. If it was genitic that wouldn't happen.

And of course in ancient roman and greek cultures, homosexuality (or bi really) was wide spread practice. It was the norm, everyone did it. This was due to culture, so it's clear that one's environment can also have an impact on how one identifies their sexuality.

It doesn't really matter though, what's important is love and tolerance. Do not pass judgment onto others, homosexuals should have same rights and be allowed to live their lives in peace and safety like the rest of us.

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#297 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]

[QUOTE="omho88"] Like what's happening in Burma .... I would probabely be in ur shoes defending what I believe but being gay and being a muslim/ athiest is totally different things. And from a sanity point of view ... you have exceeded all the boundries, accepting incest, claiming that humans are animals and that's why being gay is totally accepted ..... therapy isn't even enough, you need a reboot.omho88

You're right. Although awful that people get persecuted for their beliefs, religion is typically a choice made by a person. Sexuality is not. It's silly to compare sexuality to a religion.

And no, you claimed that nature condemned it, got proven wrong (again) so have spun the argument round. What would you do if a friend of yours came out as gay

I hope you aren't agreeing wz him on "the animals can be gays so we can be as well" ..... I was like

I dun know about my friend, I would eventually accept it .... but I think my relation with him could be uch more limited ... I think.

You were the one who brought nature into this debate.
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It doesn't really matter though, what's important is love and tolerance. Do not pass judgment onto others, homosexuals should have same rights and be allowed to live their lives in peace and safety like the rest of us.

ShadowMoses900

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#299 omho88
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[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Well you seem to be deluded that most people agree with you, which is not true at all.

Homophobes are also a dying breed just like radical religious people. So hypothetically if most people were insane like you and thought Muslims were bad, you'd have no problem with them outlawing Islam?

toast_burner

Like what's happening in Burma .... I would probabely be in ur shoes defending what I believe but being gay and being a muslim/ athiest is totally different things. And from a sanity point of view ... you have exceeded all the boundries, accepting incest, claiming that humans are animals and that's why being gay is totally accepted ..... therapy isn't even enough, you need a reboot.

You are yet to give one reason why being gay is wrong in any way. To discriminate agsinst someone based on their sexuality is no different then to do so based on their religion, race or gender.

Obviously we won't agree on that ....... I will call it nature ... that's my only strong reason which may seem stupid to you since you almost accept anything between any objects when they consent on agreeing. I will leave it this way ... I gtg now to eat after along day of fasting .......... C ya around.
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#300 omho88
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[QUOTE="omho88"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]

You're right. Although awful that people get persecuted for their beliefs, religion is typically a choice made by a person. Sexuality is not. It's silly to compare sexuality to a religion.

And no, you claimed that nature condemned it, got proven wrong (again) so have spun the argument round. What would you do if a friend of yours came out as gay

Ravensmash

I hope you aren't agreeing wz him on "the animals can be gays so we can be as well" ..... I was like

I dun know about my friend, I would eventually accept it .... but I think my relation with him could be uch more limited ... I think.

You were the one who brought nature into this debate.

I didn't mean, forests, animals ... I meant that part of ur incorrupted soul ... I dun know the term in english .. sorry.