House Democrats have 216 votes needed to pass US health care reform.

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[QUOTE="Xorital"]

Amen. This whole healthcare bill thing is a terrible thing this country had to pass. I could not believe that they passed it the way they did, our forefathers are rolling in their graves as we speak, this isnt the country they ment for us to have.

kittyloaf69

Our forefathers were racist biggots that felt that the average person should not vote, and government should be solely in the hands of the elite aristocracy that existed during the time.. There are many things to learn about the founding fathers.. But some how claim that they are still the best people to look to for aid is ridiculous, they were still a product of their time.

Most people who voted for obama didnt even know about his veiws, I was listening to radio and they were interveiwing obama supporters and not one could answer what he stood for.

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[QUOTE="Xorital"]

Amen. This whole healthcare bill thing is a terrible thing this country had to pass. I could not believe that they passed it the way they did, our forefathers are rolling in their graves as we speak, this isnt the country they ment for us to have.

kittyloaf69

Our forefathers were racist biggots that felt that the average person should not vote, and government should be solely in the hands of the elite aristocracy that existed during the time.. There are many things to learn about the founding fathers.. But some how claim that they are still the best people to look to for aid is ridiculous, they were still a product of their time.

So since your guy didn't win you want to restrict who can vote untill only those who will vote for your guy can vote?

[QUOTE="kittyloaf69"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Our forefathers were racist biggots that felt that the average person should not vote, and government should be solely in the hands of the elite aristocracy that existed during the time.. There are many things to learn about the founding fathers.. But some how claim that they are still the best people to look to for aid is ridiculous, they were still a product of their time.

Pixel-Pirate

So since your guy didn't win you want to restrict who can vote untill only those who will vote for your guy can vote?

Hey, if you voted for obama understanding and knowing that he was gonna ''share the wealth'' then by all means vote for him, but the people who did, did not at all understand his extream socilistic veiws.

Most people who voted for obama didnt even know about his veiws, I was listening to radio and they were interveiwing obama supporters and not one could answer what he stood for.

Xorital

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Most people who voted for obama didnt even know about his veiws, I was listening to radio and they were interveiwing obama supporters and not one could answer what he stood for.

quiglythegreat

Don't get me wrong, I disliked mcCaine as well, I voted for a third party.

IMO, i think we as americans should be more worried about the things that are hurting this country little by little. Inflation, outsourcing, and big corporations that do nothing more than claim they 'are losing money' but have no problem paying CEO's millions of dollars.

This health care bill will be adjusted to iron out the kinks, let's just hope that when they do adjust it they think about the country as a whole more than their seat of power.

IMO, i think we as americans should be more worried about the things that are hurting this country little by little. Inflation, outsourcing, and big corporations that do nothing more than claim they 'are losing money' but have no problem paying CEO's millions of dollars.

This health care bill will be adjusted to iron out the kinks, let's just hope that when they do adjust it they think about the country as a whole more than their seat of power.

walbeb

If they do that maybe I wouldnt mind it to much

[QUOTE="kittyloaf69"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Our forefathers were racist biggots that felt that the average person should not vote, and government should be solely in the hands of the elite aristocracy that existed during the time.. There are many things to learn about the founding fathers.. But some how claim that they are still the best people to look to for aid is ridiculous, they were still a product of their time.

Pixel-Pirate

So since your guy didn't win you want to restrict who can vote untill only those who will vote for your guy can vote?

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[QUOTE="Xorital"]

Most people who voted for obama didnt even know about his veiws, I was listening to radio and they were interveiwing obama supporters and not one could answer what he stood for.

Xorital

Don't get me wrong, I disliked mcCaine as well, I voted for a third party.

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[QUOTE="Xorital"]

Amen. This whole healthcare bill thing is a terrible thing this country had to pass. I could not believe that they passed it the way they did, our forefathers are rolling in their graves as we speak, this isnt the country they ment for us to have.

kittyloaf69

Our forefathers were racist biggots that felt that the average person should not vote, and government should be solely in the hands of the elite aristocracy that existed during the time.. There are many things to learn about the founding fathers.. But some how claim that they are still the best people to look to for aid is ridiculous, they were still a product of their time.

That wouldn't be fair. Who are you to decide who is "smart" enough to vote? :|

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Most people who voted for obama didnt even know about his veiws, I was listening to radio and they were interveiwing obama supporters and not one could answer what he stood for.

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[QUOTE="kittyloaf69"] Are you kidding? The average person shouldn't vote. This last election was decided because it turned into a popularity contest. The average American is too stupid to vote.kittyloaf69

So since your guy didn't win you want to restrict who can vote untill only those who will vote for your guy can vote?

That wouldn't be fair. Who are you to decide who is "smart" enough to vote? :|

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Most people who voted for obama didnt even know about his veiws, I was listening to radio and they were interveiwing obama supporters and not one could answer what he stood for.

Engrish_Major

Only thing I really knew about McCaine was that he was aginst gay rights and he was pretty much another bush, I thought about voting for obama but when he started talking about spreading the wealth and ''change'' I mean change isnt always bad but I always thought ''what change?'' and he also got into debates with a random plumber that asked the right questions and he didnt like it...Learning how extreame obama was I decided to go for a third party candidate so that I can atleast say I didnt contribute to either.

This bill is just terrible. TERRIBLE. I was already on government health care before the bill passed. It usually takes a couple hours for me to see a doctor. Now it'll take all day.Apostle92627

This bill is just terrible. TERRIBLE. I was already on government health care before the bill passed. It usually takes a couple hours for me to see a doctor. Now it'll take all day.Apostle92627

[QUOTE="Apostle92627"]This bill is just terrible. TERRIBLE. I was already on government health care before the bill passed. It usually takes a couple hours for me to see a doctor. Now it'll take all day.quiglythegreat

[QUOTE="Apostle92627"]This bill is just terrible. TERRIBLE. I was already on government health care before the bill passed. It usually takes a couple hours for me to see a doctor. Now it'll take all day.fidosim

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Apostle92627"]This bill is just terrible. TERRIBLE. I was already on government health care before the bill passed. It usually takes a couple hours for me to see a doctor. Now it'll take all day.Atheists_Pwn

Does this mean Rush Limbaugh has to move to Costa Rica now?

God I hope so.

[QUOTE="Apostle92627"]This bill is just terrible. TERRIBLE. I was already on government health care before the bill passed. It usually takes a couple hours for me to see a doctor. Now it'll take all day.quiglythegreat

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Apostle92627"]This bill is just terrible. TERRIBLE. I was already on government health care before the bill passed. It usually takes a couple hours for me to see a doctor. Now it'll take all day.Atheists_Pwn

well, I think the people who will be happy about this bill are the people who will finally be getting healthcare, like those who've been denied based on pre-existing conditions, or those who believe everyone should have healthcare, or people who need healthcare, which I think entails a lot of people probably.quiglythegreat

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Apostle92627"]This bill is just terrible. TERRIBLE. I was already on government health care before the bill passed. It usually takes a couple hours for me to see a doctor. Now it'll take all day.Apostle92627

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Apostle92627"]This bill is just terrible. TERRIBLE. I was already on government health care before the bill passed. It usually takes a couple hours for me to see a doctor. Now it'll take all day.Apostle92627

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]well, I think the people who will be happy about this bill are the people who will finally be getting healthcare, like those who've been denied based on pre-existing conditions, or those who believe everyone should have healthcare, or people who need healthcare, which I think entails a lot of people probably.fidosim

Without immigrants many states would have a decreasing population. Not to mention, finding a good way to 'legalize' illegal immigrants means new sources of income taxes. It's not like illegals don't already use our services, it's time to get our money back from them.

xionvalkyrie

Yeah except they have been putting money into the "system" much of which they'll never see the benefits from like social security and medicare.

http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/2008/04/10/20080410biz-TaxingImmigrants-10.html

They can't draw from either medicaid not care or SS.

Gee, after the passing of the bill healthcare stocks have suddenly magically improved. Teh socialismz gunna destoyz our healthcarezTheokhoth

Considering everyone by law has to purchase from these companies or face jail time, that isn't a huge surprise.

Most people who voted for obama didnt even know about his veiws, I was listening to radio and they were interveiwing obama supporters and not one could answer what he stood for.

Xorital

Does this mean Rush Limbaugh has to move to Costa Rica now?

God I hope so.

Netherscourge

Nevermind, found it.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Gee, after the passing of the bill healthcare stocks have suddenly magically improved. Teh socialismz gunna destoyz our healthcarezPixel-Pirate

Considering everyone by law has to purchase from these companies or face jail time, that isn't a huge surprise.

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Gee, after the passing of the bill healthcare stocks have suddenly magically improved. Teh socialismz gunna destoyz our healthcarezSnipes_2

Considering everyone by law has to purchase from these companies or face jail time, that isn't a huge surprise.

If there is no out for someone like me who has no income, not much I can do.

If there is no out for someone like me who has no income, not much I can do.

If there is no out for someone like me who has no income, not much I can do.

I thought if it was if you're "Able" to buy healthcare. As in, if you're eligible for work etc..Snipes_2

Some info here:

"There is an exemption for low-income people. The Senate bill exempted people with incomes under the federal poverty level ($21,200 for a family of four) whereas Obama's plan, like the House version, would exempt people under the tax-filing threshold ($45,295 for a family of four). But the fines levied under the insurance mandate would be higher than the Senate proposed. Obama also keeps a "hardship exemption" that excuses anyone from buying insurance if it would cost more than 8 percent of their income."

More info from the NYTimes here if you're interested.

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Considering everyone by law has to purchase from these companies or face jail time, that isn't a huge surprise.

Pixel-Pirate

If there is no out for someone like me who has no income, not much I can do.

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If there is no out for someone like me who has no income, not much I can do.

Snipes_2

Financially able. Not theoretically able. People who have no money are obviously not financially able to buy health insurance.

If there is no out for someone like me who has no income, not much I can do.

[QUOTE="kittyloaf69"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Our forefathers were racist biggots that felt that the average person should not vote, and government should be solely in the hands of the elite aristocracy that existed during the time.. There are many things to learn about the founding fathers.. But some how claim that they are still the best people to look to for aid is ridiculous, they were still a product of their time.

Mercury_May2112

That wouldn't be fair. Who are you to decide who is "smart" enough to vote? :|

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Considering everyone by law has to purchase from these companies or face jail time, that isn't a huge surprise.

Pixel-Pirate

If there is no out for someone like me who has no income, not much I can do.

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[QUOTE="kittyloaf69"] Are you kidding? The average person shouldn't vote. This last election was decided because it turned into a popularity contest. The average American is too stupid to vote.kittyloaf69

That wouldn't be fair. Who are you to decide who is "smart" enough to vote? :|

.. The test will be bias one way or the other.. This same kind of "test" is what has been used in all sorts of nations to bar out certain groups the ruling group does not want them to vote..