House Democrats have 216 votes needed to pass US health care reform.

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#301 limpbizkit818
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It passed, what a shame.
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#302 MgamerBD
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Well its passed now. Good job Obama!
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#303 fidosim
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I now declare that the night of March 21st will be remembered for all time as "La Noche Triste".
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#304 Maniacc1
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The bill is passed! I hope Limbaugh keeps on his word.
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#305 Serraph105
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ok this guy is making me laugh

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#306 GabuEx
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"Most massively pro-abortion legislation that has come before Congress since Roe v. Wade."

NEWS FLASH: Congress passed Roe v. Wade... apparently.

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#307 Crimtmp
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Great now I will be forced to get health care, man gonna have to cancell netflix and my gym membership so I can never go to the doctor :(

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#308 blackngold29
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I now declare that the night of March 21st will be remembered for all time as "La Noche Triste". fidosim
I second the motion... even though it's not over yet....
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#309 I_am_george
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The bill is passed! I hope Limbaugh keeps on his word. Maniacc1

What was his word?

and about the bill passing, enjoy the 4 years of taxes before the anything in the bill actually starts!

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#310 chessmaster1989
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"Most massively pro-abortion legislation that has come before Congress since Roe v. Wade."

NEWS FLASH: Congress passed Roe v. Wade... apparently.

GabuEx

:lol: I didn't actually catch that, but that's hilarious

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#311 GabuEx
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Great now I will be forced to get health care, man gonna have to cancell netflix and my gym membership so I can never go to the doctor :(

Crimtmp

See, this is the good thing about health care finally passing: people will finally see conclusive evidence that the health care reforms is not going to crush them financially. :P

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#312 Theokhoth
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"Most massively pro-abortion legislation that has come before Congress since Roe v. Wade."

NEWS FLASH: Congress passed Roe v. Wade... apparently.

GabuEx
:lol: God, I love politics.
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#313 GabuEx
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:lol: I didn't actually catch that, but that's hilarious

chessmaster1989

I didn't catch who it was who said that, but I heard that in the background on C-SPAN and I was like "uhhhh wait what".

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#314 Crimtmp
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[QUOTE="Crimtmp"]

Great now I will be forced to get health care, man gonna have to cancell netflix and my gym membership so I can never go to the doctor :(

GabuEx

See, this is the good thing about health care finally passing: people will finally see conclusive evidence that the health care reforms is not going to crush them financially. :P

But at least I use netflix and the gym! :(
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#315 blackngold29
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"With all due respect: What a joke."
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#316 Maniacc1
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[QUOTE="Maniacc1"]The bill is passed! I hope Limbaugh keeps on his word. I_am_george

What was his word?

and about the bill passing, enjoy the 4 years of taxes before the anything in the bill actually starts!

He said he'd move to Costa Rica if any kind of health care reform was passed.
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#317 comp_atkins
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why are these clowns making such a deal about abortion... maybe that is why they lost. far too much focus on 1 little issue.
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#318 deactivated-5a84f3399aa1c
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Men talking about abortion rights. Classic.
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#319 chessmaster1989
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Oh god... I don't know who this House rules official is (the one heading all this), but he's awesome. :lol:
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#320 Serraph105
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was this supposed to be their backup or something? Stupak has been arguing this for weeks and it didn't work. What do they think is going to happen tonight?

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#321 limpbizkit818
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Men talking about abortion rights. Classic.supercubedude64
Is there something wrong with that?
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#322 deactivated-5a84f3399aa1c
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Whoa, Stupak attack.
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#323 Karnage108
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I lol'd when Pelosi said passing the bill was "the American way"
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#324 danwallacefan
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The republicans are going to take back congress because the Dems now have 2 choices

1: They can allow the cuts in medicare to take place this fall

2: They can delay it past election day

If they take option #1, what will happen is that medicare payments to doctors will be cut by 21%. This will mean that a whole lot of doctors, hospitals, and hospices will no longer take medicare patients. This is why so many doctors refuse medicaid patients.

This means 2 things; Seniors, the most powerful demographic, are going to overwhelmingly vote against Democrats this november because this threatens the relationship between seniors and their doctors, and 2: The Democrats will lose one of their most successful rhetorical points used in elections. Democratic candidates routinely criticize republican candidates because the Republican candidate will, allegedly, cut medicare benefits to Seniors. This has never happened before, but Democrats every election season use it to great effect. This point no longer applies. The Democrats REALLY DID cut medicare benefits to seniors. So this will turn seniors overwhelmingly against democrats, which will kill democrats in elections for years to come

Or they could take option #2, which is to post-pone the medicare cuts past election day. This however will have disastrous consequences for Democrats because it will mean that the Democrats will have added tens or hundreds of billions of dollars to the Deficit. One of their biggest selling points, that this would bring fiscal responsibility to our government, will be exposed as a fraud and the Democrats will be seen, rightly, as tax-and-spend or borrow-and-spend liberals, and this will kill their image as it has thus far since Obama's election.

So the Dems are dead this November. Come 2013, this act will be repealed.

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#325 chessmaster1989
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Whoa, Stupak attack.supercubedude64

^Listening to Stupak's speech right now is greatly improving my opinion of him. :D

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#326 blackngold29
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why are these clowns making such a deal about abortion... maybe that is why they lost. far too much focus on 1 little issue.comp_atkins
Uhh, because it's not a "little" issue.
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#327 GabuEx
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Republicans: "This motion is the spirit of the Stupak amendment."

Stupak: "stfu plz"

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#328 Maniacc1
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The republicans are going to take back congress because the Dems now have 2 choices

1: They can allow the cuts in medicare to take place this fall

2: They can delay it past election day

If they take option #1, what will happen is that medicare payments to doctors will be cut by 21%. This will mean that a whole lot of doctors, hospitals, and hospices will no longer take medicare patients. This is why so many doctors refuse medicaid patients.

This means 2 things; Seniors, the most powerful demographic, are going to overwhelmingly vote against Democrats this november because this threatens the relationship between seniors and their doctors, and 2: The Democrats will lose one of their most successful rhetorical points used in elections. Democratic candidates routinely criticize republican candidates because the Republican candidate will, allegedly, cut medicare benefits to Seniors. This has never happened before, but Democrats every election season use it to great effect. This point no longer applies. The Democrats REALLY DID cut medicare benefits to seniors. So this will turn seniors overwhelmingly against democrats, which will kill democrats in elections for years to come

Or they could take option #2, which is to post-pone the medicare cuts past election day. This however will have disastrous consequences for Democrats because it will mean that the Democrats will have added tens or hundreds of billions of dollars to the Deficit. One of their biggest selling points, that this would bring fiscal responsibility to our government, will be exposed as a fraud and the Democrats will be seen, rightly, as tax-and-spend or borrow-and-spend liberals, and this will kill their image as it has thus far since Obama's election.

So the Dems are dead this November. Come 2013, this act will be repealed.

danwallacefan
I agree the Democrats are toast next election. I guess you can't always do what's popular in order to do what is right.
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#329 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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I'm not sure what to think. There are some items in the bill that I like, and some I don't. It's quite a nebulous thing right now. I don't know everything that it entails. Supposedly it will save money in the long term, but I don't know how you can cut 500 billion dollars from medicare and not expect to decrease services.

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#330 chessmaster1989
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Republicans: "This motion is the spirit of the Stupak amendment."

Stupak: "stfu plz"

GabuEx

More like "stfu noobs" :P

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#331 GabuEx
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More like "stfu noobs" :P

chessmaster1989

Well I don't think the Republicans are "noobs". :P

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#332 Serraph105
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Republicans: "This motion is the spirit of the Stupak amendment."

Stupak: "stfu plz"

GabuEx
I'm a few minutes behind so this should be good
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#333 GabuEx
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Awesome, 15 minutes of stalling. :P

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#334 danwallacefan
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Republicans: "This motion is the spirit of the Stupak amendment."

Stupak: "stfu plz"

chessmaster1989

More like "stfu noobs" :P

But surely you, and congressman Stupak, realize that Obama's executive order will have no bearing...right?

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#335 chessmaster1989
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Awesome, 15 minutes of stalling. :P

GabuEx

Hey, the Senate bill has passed, it's only a matter of time now before the reconciliation bill passes.

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#336 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Republicans: "This motion is the spirit of the Stupak amendment."

Stupak: "stfu plz"

Serraph105
I'm a few minutes behind so this should be good

wow way to go on that Stupak.
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#337 blackngold29
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From Boehner's Twitter: Dems reject "call of the roll" vote where members stand one-by-one to publicly declare their vote before the nation Ridiculous, if you're gonna vote why do you gotta hide?
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#338 GabuEx
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Caller: "(This bill) contradicts our living in a free society. .... This is totally against social equality and life in general."

what

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#339 Serraph105
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I like how the guy in charge is trying to get away with people screaming Aye every chance he gets.

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#340 Snipes_2
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Stupak in my opinion is an imbecile who was bought off. 216, just enough to pass. Wow.

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#341 Fuhgeddabouditt
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No funding for abortion = a plus for me.
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#342 Serraph105
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lol the vote is already over

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#343 Snipes_2
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Caller: "(This bill) contradicts our living in a free society. .... This is totally against social equality and life in general."

what

GabuEx
Generally when peoples taxes go up and they're forced to buy something they're against, they won't be happy. I'm guessing this man has an income of 250,000 dollars or more.
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#344 scorch-62
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Caller: "(This bill) contradicts our living in a free society. .... This is totally against social equality and life in general."

what

GabuEx
In my eyes, nothing will beat the comment from earlier tonight declaring that "we have the most pro-abortion President ever in American history." :lol:
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#345 chessmaster1989
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Stupak in my opinion is an imbecile who was bought off. 216, just enough to pass. Wow.

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Actually, it passed with 219. :P

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#346 Snipes_2
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No funding for abortion = a plus for me. Fuhgeddabouditt
I thought there was funding for abortion, is that in one of the other bills possiblY?
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#347 Serraph105
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Stupak in my opinion is an imbecile who was bought off. 216, just enough to pass. Wow.

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I don't think he was bought off. I think he was just trying to get on tv a lot
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#348 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Stupak in my opinion is an imbecile who was bought off. 216, just enough to pass. Wow.

chessmaster1989

Actually, it passed with 219. :P

The picture posted said 216, 3 Republicans voted for it?
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#349 leviathan91
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Stupak in my opinion is an imbecile who was bought off. 216, just enough to pass. Wow.

Snipes_2

Agreed but it would have passed anyway. There were 219 votes.

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#350 GabuEx
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Fail.