How dangerous is weed really?

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#51 Necrifer
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You aint foolin me kid. I've been there done that. I've beenclean for 15 years. I know people that have been doing drugs longer then you've been alive.

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You keep telling yourself that.

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#52 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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I know how addictive it can be first hand.

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If you know it's not addictive, then what are you talking about?
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#53 ColdExistence
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="jdc6305"]You aint foolin me kid. I've been there done that. I've beenclean for 15 years. I know people that have been doing drugs longer then you've been alive.

jdc6305

Bro. What drugs are you talking about 'cause weed ain't addictive.

I've smoked it for years and quit. I know how addictive it can be first hand. Your not telling me nothing I don't know.

So have I, and I say it wasn't addictive. That would suggest it greatly depends on the personality of the person.
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#54 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="jdc6305"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] Bro. What drugs are you talking about 'cause weed ain't addictive.ColdExistence

I've smoked it for years and quit. I know how addictive it can be first hand. Your not telling me nothing I don't know.

So have I, and I say it wasn't addictive. That would suggest it greatly depends on the personality of the person.

Which suggests it is the person, not the drug \o/
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[QUOTE="jdc6305"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] Bro. What drugs are you talking about 'cause weed ain't addictive.ColdExistence

I've smoked it for years and quit. I know how addictive it can be first hand. Your not telling me nothing I don't know.

So have I, and I say it wasn't addictive. That would suggest it greatly depends on the personality of the person.

Whatever I'm not goign to agrue all day I've got better things to do with my time.

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[QUOTE="ColdExistence"][QUOTE="jdc6305"]I've smoked it for years and quit. I know how addictive it can be first hand. Your not telling me nothing I don't know.

jdc6305

So have I, and I say it wasn't addictive. That would suggest it greatly depends on the personality of the person.

Whatever I'm not goign to agrue all day I've got better things to do with my time.

Next you'll tell us you finally quit your WoW addiction.
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As a medical marijuana patient, I find it to be really helpful for my leg pains(Car Accident) and it makes you eat(if you don't eat a lot). I prefer marijuana then taking pills that fk up your lever or make you become a pill addict like most people now and days it seems.

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#58 ColdExistence
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[QUOTE="ColdExistence"][QUOTE="jdc6305"]I've smoked it for years and quit. I know how addictive it can be first hand. Your not telling me nothing I don't know.

jdc6305

So have I, and I say it wasn't addictive. That would suggest it greatly depends on the personality of the person.

Whatever I'm not goign to agrue all day I've got better things to do with my time.

Yeah, you better get back to doing those drugs of yours.
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As a medical marijuana patient, I find it to be really helpful for my leg pains(Car Accident) and it makes you eat(if you don't eat a lot). I prefer marijuana then taking pills that fk up your lever or make you become a pill addict like most people now and days it seems.

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you just took a hit, didn't you? :lol:
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It's not directly harmful, but smoking it daily can have a lot of negative effects. If you're inhaling the smoke every single day, you're still taking in CO2 and you do have a very highly increased risk of heart disease and cancer.

You can become dependent on THC as well. It's a low dependency rate, like less than 30% of heavy users, but it can happen.

However in moderation it's about as harmful as alcohol.

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#61 Necrifer
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Yeah, you better get back to doing those drugs of yours.

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Marijuana's one hell of a drug.

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You can become dependent on THC as well. It's a low dependency rate, like less than 30% of heavy users, but it can happen.

However in moderation it's about as harmful as alcohol.

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No.
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[QUOTE="jdc6305"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="jdc6305"]You aint foolin me kid. I've been there done that. I've beenclean for 15 years. I know people that have been doing drugs longer then you've been alive.

Bro. What drugs are you talking about 'cause weed ain't addictive.

I've smoked it for years and quit. I know how addictive it can be first hand. Your not telling me nothing I don't know.

Any substance can be addictive to a specific individual. However, unlike narcotics, nicotine, or even alcohol, marijuana does not create a physical dependency. Your body does not go into withdrawal when you stop using it.
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#64 ColdExistence
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It's not directly harmful, but smoking it daily can have a lot of negative effects. If you're inhaling the smoke every single day, you're still taking in CO2 and you do have a very highly increased risk of heart disease and cancer.

You can become dependent on THC as well. It's a low dependency rate, like less than 30% of heavy users, but it can happen.

However in moderation it's about as harmful as alcohol.

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I agree with the smoking. If you're one of those every day dudes, get a freaking vapo.
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#65 Necrifer
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No.

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Maybe. I've heard alcohol in moderation can be good for you.

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[QUOTE="TChaivong"]

As a medical marijuana patient, I find it to be really helpful for my leg pains(Car Accident) and it makes you eat(if you don't eat a lot). I prefer marijuana then taking pills that fk up your lever or make you become a pill addict like most people now and days it seems.

Jandurin

you just took a hit, didn't you? :lol:

I wish, i'm dry = /....I mean hurting >_>

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

You can become dependent on THC as well. It's a low dependency rate, like less than 30% of heavy users, but it can happen.

However in moderation it's about as harmful as alcohol.

Jandurin

No.

Yes

It's even a lower rate than I said. It's 10-30% become dependent. It's not physically addicting but you can develop a dependency for it.

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#68 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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you can develop a dependency for it.

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it's not worth saying that because anything in life falls under this category so it's just fvcking idiotic to even bring it up
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it's like giving the percentage of people that die when they stop breathing
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#70 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

you can develop a dependency for it.

Jandurin

it's not worth saying that because anything in life falls under this category so it's just fvcking idiotic to even bring it up

Well if you refuse to read the link I provided with an actual credible study, then there isn't much that can be said.

It's also physcially addictive as well. It's just a really low percent, but it does happen.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

You can become dependent on THC as well. It's a low dependency rate, like less than 30% of heavy users, but it can happen.

However in moderation it's about as harmful as alcohol.

Wasdie

No.

Yes

It's even a lower rate than I said. It's 10-30% become dependent. It's not physically addicting but you can develop a dependency for it.

You can become dependent on many things you enjoy. Hell, I know this guy who can't refrain from working out every day. And me? I'm addicted to video games. I don't believe it's an argument people should use against something, unless it's a physical addiction that can affect everyone.
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I don't believe it's an argument people should use against something, unless it's a physical addiction that can affect everyone. ColdExistence
This.
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It's also physcially addictive as well. It's just a really low percent, but it does happen.

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hll where's your link for this one, broski
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] No.ColdExistence

Yes

It's even a lower rate than I said. It's 10-30% become dependent. It's not physically addicting but you can develop a dependency for it.

You can become dependent on many things you enjoy. Hell, I know this guy who can't refrain from working out every day. And me? I'm addicted to video games. I don't believe it's an argument people should use against something, unless it's a physical addiction that can affect everyone.

If you read the link you will also find that it is physcially addicting. Apparently I glanced over that part. So I was wrong. It is addicting. Read the link.

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

It's also physcially addictive as well. It's just a really low percent, but it does happen.

Jandurin

hll where's your link for this one, broski

link

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read the link nothing about physical addiction of pot
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read the link nothing about physical addiction of potJandurin

You didn't read this

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There are very little negative effects from marijuana. The worst is the fact that you're still inhaling smoke when you smoke it(which in turn damages your lungs). However, that applies to any kind of smoke. Also, it can be ingested in different ways. Eating it comes to mind, by one can use inhalers as well.

It can cause cancer not because of the marijuana itself, but because of the tar in the rolling papers people use for joints. Much like how rolling your own cigarettes in less bad for you than buying packaged ones.

Watch these 2 documenteries(they're long, but they're worth it if you want to get informed), and if you think that it should retain it's current status (in the US at least, here in Europe its much less of a big deal), then I dont know what to say.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jO_ncXj7RE

"The Union"

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd6oJjx8ze0

Marijuana: A chronic history.

GS wont let me link for soem reason, just copy and paste.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]read the link nothing about physical addiction of potWasdie

You didn't read this

bull sh.t
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Many experts also believe that marijuana is physically addictive. Great People believe in God, too.
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Not dangerous if you know how to control it. If you don't know how to control it, super dangerous.
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]read the link nothing about physical addiction of potJandurin

You didn't read this

bull sh.t

I don't know why it's hard to believe. I'm not calling for it to be illegal, I think it should be legalized. But just like anything out there that messes with us in some way, this can be addicting.

It's less addicting than cigarettes and alcohol, but it still is.

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Not dangerous if you know how to control it. If you don't know how to control it, super dangerous.

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What makes it "super dangerous"?

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Yourself.
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THAT'S A FVCKING TERRIFIC ANSWER

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The Hippy Hay does have carcinogenic smoke. One little joint is equivalent to 3-8 cigarettes in terms of toxins (minus the nico of course). Also, long term weed smoking has been linked to the development of schizophrenia. However, there are aspects in the puff that actually halt the growth of cancer in the lungs (it's a paradox really). There's more, but that's all I remember from a psychology course I did back in the day :)

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THAT'S A FVCKING TERRIFIC ANSWER

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It was explained in my post. Don't know why you even asked me...
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One little joint is equivalent to 3-8 cigarettes in terms of toxins (minus the nico of course).ydnarrewop
Whoa there, Nelly. :| It's just a plant.
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#89 ColdExistence
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The Hippy Hay does have carcinogenic smoke. One little joint is equivalent to 3-8 cigarettes in terms of toxins (minus the nico of course). Also, long term weed smoking has been linked to the development of schizophrenia. However, there are aspects in the puff that actually halt the growth of cancer in the lungs (it's a paradox really). There's more, but that's all I remember from a psychology course I did back in the day :)

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Schizophrenia? That makes sense. I was always mad paranoid while high on weed.
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depends on the person, I for one hate weed, because I can not stand the smell, gives me headaches

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It's not linked to the DEVELOPMENT of schizophrenia but if you have a predisposition, then it can trigger it. But so can any traumatic or exciting event.
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#92 ydnarrewop
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It's not linked to the DEVELOPMENT of schizophrenia but if you have a predisposition, then it can trigger it. But so can any traumatic or exciting event.Jandurin

Cause it or open the bars for it to escape...semantecs really. Hey after all these year I'm fine....shhh I'm still talking.

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It was explained in my post. Don't know why you even asked me...

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Your post says nothing.

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You know what I find interesting about religion and weed debates? They're the same, they have people trying to force their beliefs on others and most of the stuff they say ain't true >_>

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You know what I find interesting about religion and weed debates? They're the same, they have people trying to force their beliefs on others and most of the stuff they say ain't true >_>

TChaivong

They're extremely different.

One's based off beliefs, the other facts.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]It's not linked to the DEVELOPMENT of schizophrenia but if you have a predisposition, then it can trigger it. But so can any traumatic or exciting event.ydnarrewop

Cause it or open the bars for it to escape...semantecs really. Hey after all these year I'm fine....shhh I'm still talking.

Um, no it's completely different. If you were never going to "be schizophrenic" then marijuana CAN NOT cause it, or whatever.
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[QUOTE="TChaivong"]

You know what I find interesting about religion and weed debates? They're the same, they have people trying to force their beliefs on others and most of the stuff they say ain't true >_>

Necrifer

They're extremely different.

One's based off beliefs, the other facts.

Wrong.
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Wrong.

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Wrong?

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Wrong.

Necrifer

Wrong?

Marijuana studies are pretty biased (both ways) and **** anyone that tells you we "understand" the brain and drug interactions in general. We just have ideas and beliefs about them, man.
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#100 Necrifer
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Marijuana studies are pretty biased (both ways) and **** anyone that tells you we "understand" the brain and drug interactions in general. We just have ideas and beliefs about them, man.

Jandurin

Sh!t...yes.

I was very wrong.

Once again, I like to say things.

It's really dumb because I already knew all of this. :(

Whoops, I was wrong again. I shouldn't say I "knew", rather, I was aware of this.