How do you cope in this miserable world with a possibility of no creator?

Each day that flys by, how do you cope with all of the misery that this world brings. All that you hear in the news is some man killing his wife, gang killings, some maniac going postal killing dozens of people, bombings etc. Each day that goes by, I wonder that if there is truly no creator (I'm agnostic I guess) then whats the point in it all. I guess if there is no higher power, then there is technically no point and that we are evolutionary organisms.

Sometimes people wonder why I'm not goal oriented or ambitious, I just say whats the point. We are doomed to kill ourselves through nuclear weapons anyway. Our history is dark. The holocaust, purpopsely injecting diseases in african americans long ago, intentionally letting radiation out onto a city just for an experiment to see what it does, it just makes everything so...hopeless.

I've heard people say "You don't need a creator, just give yourself purpose". Sorry. For me that doesn't work. I can't put myself into self ignorance that way. That would be me trying to rationalize that I'm special. I'm not and if there is no creator, then no one is. I realize nobody is really special. The universe is so vast that this planet is a tiny little sand grain, just a pebble. Just existing through the accident of evolution. So much chaos and death *sigh*. What is wrong with the human species and this planet.

The price of gas is rising, the cost of living is rising, our politicians and people in power are corrupt and psychopaths (same could be said for ALL world leaders, not just in a certain country). Really, what is the point. Everything is just..hopeless. The way our society is so superficial and shallow as well. People putting too much emphasis on clothes, how certain people look , the crap on TV ( I don't watch it, but hear about it). I mean, really?

I guess I think about this so much because losing loved ones is  the hardest thing to deal with in life. All the chaos in this world, I think of the all the people that not only lost their lives, but their loves ones as well. Its just so depressing. The only thing I can really do is continue to treat people the way I wanted to be treated, just focus on me, I can only control myself. But sometimes its just so hard when you hear or see that news headline of a lunatic doing something so heartless.

It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on this and how you cope.

Also, does anyone else feel the same way perhaps? Peace.

Drinking myself into oblivion almost every weekend.

easy, i don't care. my family and friends are the only humans i care about. other than that, i just care about animals to be honest. i know how irrational it sounds.

easy, i don't care. my family and friends are the only humans i care about. other than that, i just care about animals to be honest. i know how irrational it sounds.

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easy, i don't care. my family and friends are the only humans i care about. other than that, i just care about animals to be honest. i know how irrational it sounds.

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easy, i don't care. my family and friends are the only humans i care about. other than that, i just care about animals to be honest. i know how irrational it sounds.

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^ Pretty much the same for me. I try to spend my time doing the things I enjoy with the people I enjoy being around, I don't need to believe that my life has any purpose other than to enjoy myself and hopefully to better the lives of those I care about.

ach day that flys by, how do you cope with all of the misery that this world brings. All that you hear in the news is some man killing his wife, gang killings, some maniac going postal killing dozens of people, bombings etc.

Print and TV news is a dying worthless thing that not only needs to report on only the bad things but that needs to report on them in sensationalist ways to get the viewers/readers that they require to stay alive a little longer.

I've heard people say "You don't need a creator, just give yourself purpose". Sorry. For me that doesn't work. I can't put myself into self ignorance that way. That would be me trying to rationalize that I'm special

Wouldn't feeling that there needs to be a creator be the same thing. It would be just as easy, if not easier, to say that someone who feels that they have to believe in something are putting themselves into self ignorance. For many people the reason they seem to believe in a creator is for the sole reason of believing that they are special.

i know there is a creator,

i remember all the things i am blessed with that many others don't have

water, clothing, shelter etc, those who i love and my connection with the creator, that is what puts a smile on my face everyday.

Well I intend to believe in myself.I don't know why or how but when I look deep inside myself and think of my own existence I feel as if it is only me that exist. That all that is happening in the world is there for me. For me to react toward them. I feel the world does not really exist and only I am the one who exist. It feels like I am a god not belonging to this false existence but belonging to something or someone who is entirely true. I was going to say I live by believing in God but well that was not my first step. Realizing who I am was. Believe me degrading yourself to mortal instead of believing in after life (which is return to the source of truth and existence) is the cause of your sorrow. It may seem lot of nonsense which actually is because it is simply my own ideas and you would be a fool to follow  someone else ideas instead of developing your own and thinking for yourself. All I am saying is that do not degrade yourself.

Wouldn't it be more depressing knowing there's an all powerful creator who is willingly let this stuff happen?

Also, I feel sorry for anyone who has to be in contact with you
Depressing fvck

You can believe there is some higher existence in the universe, in what ever form, and understand that it doesn't have any control over your actions. Free will, use it.

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easy, i don't care. my family and friends are the only humans i care about. other than that, i just care about animals to be honest. i know how irrational it sounds.

Legolas_Katarn

^ Pretty much the same for me. I try to spend my time doing the things I enjoy with the people I enjoy being around, I don't need to believe that my life has any purpose other than to enjoy myself and hopefully to better the lives of those I care about.

ach day that flys by, how do you cope with all of the misery that this world brings. All that you hear in the news is some man killing his wife, gang killings, some maniac going postal killing dozens of people, bombings etc.

Print and TV news is a dying worthless thing that not only needs to report on only the bad things but that needs to report on them in sensationalist ways to get the viewers/readers that they require to stay alive a little longer.

I've heard people say "You don't need a creator, just give yourself purpose". Sorry. For me that doesn't work. I can't put myself into self ignorance that way. That would be me trying to rationalize that I'm special

Wouldn't feeling that there needs to be a creator be the same thing. It would be just as easy, if not easier, to say that someone who feels that they have to believe in something are putting themselves into self ignorance. For many people the reason they seem to believe in a creator is for the sole reason of believing that they are special.

Why do you need to have a creator?

I think it is scarier to think that there is a craetor that allows crazy things happen.

Why would the existence of a creator make any difference? Then we'd just be animals in a zoo for some evil, supernatural dictator type-thingy.

Why do you need to have a creator?

I think it is scarier to think that there is a craetor that allows crazy things happen.

Angie7F

Also, it would be comforting knowing that loved ones still exist, somewhere, and that maybe we could all see the ones we care about again after they die. It makes it alot easier than to just think that they are dead, gone forever, no way to see them again. That alone, is why the world bothers me. So many people's loved ones dying, possibly without an afterlife they can never see them again. So sad.

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Why do you need to have a creator?

I think it is scarier to think that there is a craetor that allows crazy things happen.

CecilChups

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Why do you need to have a creator?

I think it is scarier to think that there is a craetor that allows crazy things happen.

chaoscougar1

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="CecilChups"] Honestly , it would give me hope of an afterlife and not know that in the end, I'll just rot in the ground and thats it, the end. Also, maybe if there is a creator, maybe the point of this life would've been to learn how to love. I know its cheesy and all, but from reading a lot of NDE's the most consistent thing I've seen is that the afterlife they claim to have seen was mainly love and that the reason for being on earth was to learn how to love. Not saying its true or anything, but something to think about.CecilChups

But nah
Your approach sounds helpful too

Are you saying we should all line ourselves up and routinely cap the person to our right?

Anyway, I just don't care. I read things and go, "Well shit, that is awful," but it doesn't really stay with me all that long. You need to care less TC. 

Why do you need to have a creator?

I think it is scarier to think that there is a craetor that allows crazy things happen.

Angie7F

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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] So you believe Your point in life Is to die Please don't have childrenchaoscougar1

But nah
Your approach sounds helpful too

Yeah enjoy your life and care none about the hungry people of Africa

alim298

Excuse me while I enjoy my life, take care of the people I love and help who I canchaoscougar1

and help who I canchaoscougar1

Learn2Read

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Those kids can't live on your emotional distress
Seems like a more productive approach would be bettering your life as to earn more money and thus having a greater ability to help those who are disadvantaged

But that's just me

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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"]Excuse me while I enjoy my life, take care of the people I love and help who I canchaoscougar1

and help who I canchaoscougar1

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easy, i don't care. my family and friends are the only humans i care about. other than that, i just care about animals to be honest. i know how irrational it sounds.

alim298

^ Pretty much the same for me. I try to spend my time doing the things I enjoy with the people I enjoy being around, I don't need to believe that my life has any purpose other than to enjoy myself and hopefully to better the lives of those I care about.

ach day that flys by, how do you cope with all of the misery that this world brings. All that you hear in the news is some man killing his wife, gang killings, some maniac going postal killing dozens of people, bombings etc.

Print and TV news is a dying worthless thing that not only needs to report on only the bad things but that needs to report on them in sensationalist ways to get the viewers/readers that they require to stay alive a little longer.

I've heard people say "You don't need a creator, just give yourself purpose". Sorry. For me that doesn't work. I can't put myself into self ignorance that way. That would be me trying to rationalize that I'm special

Wouldn't feeling that there needs to be a creator be the same thing. It would be just as easy, if not easier, to say that someone who feels that they have to believe in something are putting themselves into self ignorance. For many people the reason they seem to believe in a creator is for the sole reason of believing that they are special.

easy, i don't care. my family and friends are the only humans i care about. other than that, i just care about animals to be honest. i know how irrational it sounds.

It may seem lot of nonsense which actually is because it is simply my own ideas and you would be a fool to follow someone else ideas instead of developing your own and thinking for yourself.

I'm sorry that you can't handle the reality of our species and life. I hope one day you can retreat from that little safe ignorant bubble in which you reside in and also open that mind of yours a bit more. A dose of reality can do you some good, friend.

CecilChups

alim298

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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"]Excuse me while I enjoy my life, take care of the people I love and help who I canchaoscougar1

and help who I canchaoscougar1

Learn2Read

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Those kids can't live on your emotional distress
Seems like a more productive approach would be bettering your life as to earn more money and thus having a greater ability to help those who are disadvantaged

But that's just me

Well just look what he wrote to me. Apparently he thinks that if bad things happen to other people we should do nothing to help them, but that we should feel terrible about it and not have any happiness or enjoyment in our life while also not helping anyone.

After all, for all he knows my main source of enojyment could be trying to get food to starving people.

(Off Topic: What is Gamespot's problem with quotes lately)

geez... tc is such a debbie downer.. be glad you didn't live 500 years ago.. you'd have hung yourself by now.comp_atkins

I'm 26 and for a couple of years ( even now) I'm just not coping well with it at all. I cannot stop thinking about how life has no meaning and no matter how hard I try I simply cannot find a meaning to it. I always been an over thinker as much as it can be an advantage in somethings, it's really terrible when I think about life in general. 

I simply don't know what I want out of life. Having a wife, kids getting a fancy or ( interesting) jobs were never things that I strived for. I have no drive to be *something* by society standard. How do I cope with it, I simply don't. 

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^ Pretty much the same for me. I try to spend my time doing the things I enjoy with the people I enjoy being around, I don't need to believe that my life has any purpose other than to enjoy myself and hopefully to better the lives of those I care about.

ach day that flys by, how do you cope with all of the misery that this world brings. All that you hear in the news is some man killing his wife, gang killings, some maniac going postal killing dozens of people, bombings etc.Legolas_Katarn

Print and TV news is a dying worthless thing that not only needs to report on only the bad things but that needs to report on them in sensationalist ways to get the viewers/readers that they require to stay alive a little longer.

I've heard people say "You don't need a creator, just give yourself purpose". Sorry. For me that doesn't work. I can't put myself into self ignorance that way. That would be me trying to rationalize that I'm special

Wouldn't feeling that there needs to be a creator be the same thing. It would be just as easy, if not easier, to say that someone who feels that they have to believe in something are putting themselves into self ignorance. For many people the reason they seem to believe in a creator is for the sole reason of believing that they are special.

easy, i don't care. my family and friends are the only humans i care about. other than that, i just care about animals to be honest. i know how irrational it sounds.

It may seem lot of nonsense which actually is because it is simply my own ideas and you would be a fool to follow someone else ideas instead of developing your own and thinking for yourself.

I'm sorry that you can't handle the reality of our species and life. I hope one day you can retreat from that little safe ignorant bubble in which you reside in and also open that mind of yours a bit more. A dose of reality can do you some good, friend.

Ok this is looooooong but anyway I didn't try to offend your believe about living happy while helping others I actually offended you for your disbelieve in afterlife. Of course everyone should try to be happy. Everyone should have enough food and water to live by. What I am trying to say is that by your disbelieve in afterlife how can you explain the suffering of hungry people who try very hard to be happy but eventually face many difficulities? What should they do and what their purpose should be? I still say you are blinded to "afterlife" because you have rarely faced such things. Because you rarely faced people or things that you wanted to punish but you could not. YES maybe I spoke a little wrongly but this that we are talking about can't just be disscused by a few words.alim298

[QUOTE="alim298"]Ok this is looooooong but anyway I didn't try to offend your believe about living happy while helping others I actually offended you for your disbelieve in afterlife. Of course everyone should try to be happy. Everyone should have enough food and water to live by. What I am trying to say is that by your disbelieve in afterlife how can you explain the suffering of hungry people who try very hard to be happy but eventually face many difficulities? What should they do and what their purpose should be? I still say you are blinded to "afterlife" because you have rarely faced such things. Because you rarely faced people or things that you wanted to punish but you could not. YES maybe I spoke a little wrongly but this that we are talking about can't just be disscused by a few words.chaoscougar1

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="alim298"]Ok this is looooooong but anyway I didn't try to offend your believe about living happy while helping others I actually offended you for your disbelieve in afterlife. Of course everyone should try to be happy. Everyone should have enough food and water to live by. What I am trying to say is that by your disbelieve in afterlife how can you explain the suffering of hungry people who try very hard to be happy but eventually face many difficulities? What should they do and what their purpose should be? I still say you are blinded to "afterlife" because you have rarely faced such things. Because you rarely faced people or things that you wanted to punish but you could not. YES maybe I spoke a little wrongly but this that we are talking about can't just be disscused by a few words.alim298

Ooooo
So very close

So you need the universe to even itself out somehow
People suffer because there is some divine end to it all
Nah mate
That's just life
You can either sit there and do fvck all about it because what they have waiting for them is far greater than anything they can recieve on this planet
Or
You can realise that life isn't fair
And do as much as you can to help those lives that aren't as fortunate as yours
Instead of just complaining about it and making your own life feel pointless/depressing
Man the fvck up

I cope just fine.

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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] So your justification behind an afterlife is that it makes you feel better about people who are doing it tough? How does a belief in the afterlife explain why there are third world countries and poverty? I don't understand your correlationchaoscougar1

Ooooo
So very close

So you need the universe to even itself out somehow
People suffer because there is some divine end to it all
Nah mate
That's just life
You can either sit there and do fvck all about it because what they have waiting for them is far greater than anything they can recieve on this planet
Or
You can realise that life isn't fair
And do as much as you can to help those lives that aren't as fortunate as yours
Instead of just complaining about it and making your own life feel pointless/depressing
Man the fvck up

   And afterlife is only better for those who work for it in this world by making this world a better place to live and omitting evil. We will not reach an agreement at this point though. We are like two mathematicians: one defines X as plus and the other defines X as minus.

I was in a barber shop a few years ago getting my hair cut. This old guy walked in, probably in his mid-late 70s or so. My barber started chatting with him, asking him how he was doing, etc.. He seemed really happy and his response was pretty simple, "I got to see the sun again today, it's a good day".

I think that guy's got it figured out.

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[QUOTE="alim298"] No it does not make me feel better by a mile. But it says that afterlife is nessesary because many punishments can't be given to those who commit crimes. And many prizes can't be given to those who had patient over pain and with all the suffering still tried to be happy and make others happy. Anyway I can't justify afterlife only by that. Before this I need to justify God's existence which as I said will take more than a few words and I admit I talked wrongly before and I am sorry. And by the word "child" that you called me I realize you are a little girl.

alim298

Ooooo
So very close

So you need the universe to even itself out somehow
People suffer because there is some divine end to it all
Nah mate
That's just life
You can either sit there and do fvck all about it because what they have waiting for them is far greater than anything they can recieve on this planet
Or
You can realise that life isn't fair
And do as much as you can to help those lives that aren't as fortunate as yours
Instead of just complaining about it and making your own life feel pointless/depressing
Man the fvck up

I'm done

I've learned that there is no creator and i live my life as good as possible.. if there was a *creator* this world won't be as shitty as it is.. and if there is a *creator* is not some magical being..but more likely something that came from another place pretty similar to us...especially for the fact that there is more proof of that and not the existence of a *God*.

Hey C.C. Stuff happens. You just gotta live your Life..

*blankly quotes giant wall of text*chaoscougar1

Okay?

On topic, how "miserable" the world is is not defined by wether not we have an external creator, it simply is. Thus believing in a such creator would not make me feel better about it.

I cope without issue.

The afterlife is just a thought to make people feel better about dying. It's funny that religions these days pass along the idea of an afterlife like it is unique to their religion, but most religions have ideas about an afterlife that are very different from one another.

Well, it all begins with being able to accept the fact that you cannot control certain things.  It is not exactly comfortable to admit this at first, but once you accept it, it is sort of liberating.

Second, you need to realize we are, individually, very small parts of a large organism.  So, while humanity as a whole might look bad, look to the individual to salvation.  Humanity is god, we rule our domain, and we are wonderful.  Art, media, words, voice, and so forth...just look at all the beauty we have made, and continue to make, on a daily basis.

Third, ignore the news networks.  THeyre fear mongerers.  It is how they sell stuff.  THey tell you to be scared, that youre going to die, then they cut to commercials for life insurance, security systems, and ambulence chasers for such-and-such medication, then they come back and tell you why your politicians are screwing you over and why you suck.  Written media is a little better because it can be less sensationalist, but get to know your sources.

And, finally, be relieved there is no creator.  Seriously, you really want an angry father figure watching over you your whole life, waiting to damn you to eternal damnation for some really silly stuff?  Not to mention eternity is a long long time for, well, anything.

I've managed pretty fine thus far, creator or not. *shrug*

I over indulge myself with cake and vagina

Yea, life is pointless. To get by, you just need to not give a shit. It's surprisingly easy and rewarding.

I just don't care about the world apart from my family, that's how I can happily get through my life.

It's simply by not giving a damn about the world, otherwise it will depress you.

Well, it all begins with being able to accept the fact that you cannot control certain things.  It is not exactly comfortable to admit this at first, but once you accept it, it is sort of liberating.

Second, you need to realize we are, individually, very small parts of a large organism.  So, while humanity as a whole might look bad, look to the individual to salvation.  Humanity is god, we rule our domain, and we are wonderful.  Art, media, words, voice, and so forth...just look at all the beauty we have made, and continue to make, on a daily basis.

Third, ignore the news networks.  THeyre fear mongerers.  It is how they sell stuff.  THey tell you to be scared, that youre going to die, then they cut to commercials for life insurance, security systems, and ambulence chasers for such-and-such medication, then they come back and tell you why your politicians are screwing you over and why you suck.  Written media is a little better because it can be less sensationalist, but get to know your sources.

And, finally, be relieved there is no creator.  Seriously, you really want an angry father figure watching over you your whole life, waiting to damn you to eternal damnation for some really silly stuff?  Not to mention eternity is a long long time for, well, anything.

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