How often do you seriously pray?

Why did you delete the rest of my post?

battlefront23

Because like your smiley, it was irrelevent to the point I made. Since, you know, it's kind of obvious that God is subjective. What with all those different religions and all.

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Why did you delete the rest of my post?

The_Ish

Because like your smiley, it was irrelevent to the point I made. Since, you know, it's kind of obious that God is subjective. What with all those different religions and all.

The differing views of God are subjective but He is not subjective. If he was, he would not be perfect and thus not be God.

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]The holy spirit is not your personal servant.battlefront23

No it doesn't, actually. God is God; he doesn't change depending on the person.

Well since noone knows what the true religion is, or what gods true feelings towards peoples feeling are (or if there is even a god), then noone knows whether he is or not a personal servant. So it does depend on your beliefs to decide whether or not you believe he is our personal servant.

I'm confident my religion is right. Do you want me to go on and explain? :P

I'm confident that nothing you say will make me believe that your religion is 100% correct. So it'd be quite pointless, but if you feel like explaining, I'm all ears.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="AnubisCraig"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]The holy spirit is not your personal servant.AnubisCraig

No it doesn't, actually. God is God; he doesn't change depending on the person.

Well since noone knows what the true religion is, or what gods true feelings towards peoples feeling are (or if there is even a god), then noone knows whether he is or not a personal servant. So it does depend on your beliefs to decide whether or not you believe he is our personal servant.

I'm confident my religion is right. Do you want me to go on and explain? :P

I'm confident that nothing you say will make me believe that your religion is 100% correct. So it'd be quite pointless, but if you feel like explaining, I'm all ears.

Love. There ya go. ;)

The differing views of God are subjective but He is not subjective. If he was, he would not be perfect and thus not be God.

battlefront23

That's faith talking.

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The differing views of God are subjective but He is not subjective. If he was, he would not be perfect and thus not be God.

The_Ish

That's faith talking.

How?

[QUOTE="AnubisCraig"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]The holy spirit is not your personal servant.battlefront23

No it doesn't, actually. God is God; he doesn't change depending on the person.

Well since noone knows what the true religion is, or what gods true feelings towards peoples feeling are (or if there is even a god), then noone knows whether he is or not a personal servant. So it does depend on your beliefs to decide whether or not you believe he is our personal servant.

I'm confident my religion is right. Do you want me to go on and explain? :P

Yeah, but you really cannot prove it.

How?

battlefront23

Because God is my servant, duh.

[QUOTE="AnubisCraig"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="AnubisCraig"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]The holy spirit is not your personal servant.battlefront23

No it doesn't, actually. God is God; he doesn't change depending on the person.

Well since noone knows what the true religion is, or what gods true feelings towards peoples feeling are (or if there is even a god), then noone knows whether he is or not a personal servant. So it does depend on your beliefs to decide whether or not you believe he is our personal servant.

I'm confident my religion is right. Do you want me to go on and explain? :P

I'm confident that nothing you say will make me believe that your religion is 100% correct. So it'd be quite pointless, but if you feel like explaining, I'm all ears.

Love. There ya go. ;)

Abstract explanation on religion keeps my statement intact. Just because you love something, doesn't make it fact.

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The holy spirit is there to keep the food warm.

Shad0ki11

The holy spirit is not your personal servant.

You're right. It keeps the food warm for everyone who prays.

The holy spirit's job isn't to keep food warm while you or anyone prays.

This is my own personal belief. I insist that the holy spirit keeps the food warm while I pray!

[QUOTE="TecmoGirl"]I pray every now and then. I always pray before eating a meal--it's a habit I simply can't break no matter what. People look at me weird during lunch at school for it--like oh my god, is this girl really praying here out of all places? I don't spend a bunch of time saying any of my prayers though(usually 3 to 5 minutes), so im not sure if it's considered serious or not. ferrari2001

I stand and applaud you. That takes alot of courage and is a really amazing thing to pray infornt of all those people like that.. You are an inspiration!

errr...As much as it kills me to give that user any props...I agree. :cry: I still wouldnt do it though. :P

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]The holy spirit is not your personal servant.AnubisCraig

No it doesn't, actually. God is God; he doesn't change depending on the person.

Well since noone knows what the true religion is, or what gods true feelings towards peoples feeling are (or if there is even a god), then noone knows whether he is or not a personal servant. So it does depend on your beliefs to decide whether or not you believe he is our personal servant.

I'm confident my religion is right. Do you want me to go on and explain? :P

I'm confident that nothing you say will make me believe that your religion is 100% correct. So it'd be quite pointless, but if you feel like explaining, I'm all ears.

Love. There ya go. ;)

Abstract explanation on religion keeps my statement intact. Just because you love something, doesn't make it fact.

No I mean God's love for me. I've yet to see other religions where their God came down and died for his followers, I've yet to see a religion that can make bold claims in it's "holy" text that came to pass and have that same text never contradict itself, I've never heard of a man who said love your enemies, I've never seen a religion where the Savior (do other religions even have Saviors?) asked His father to forgive the people who were mocking him while He was dying, and I've never seen a religious man have as much impact on the world as Jesus did. There you go. Oh and I've never seen any shred of proof that disproves Jesus rose from the dead. How's that for thinking my religion is the right one?

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How?

The_Ish

Because God is my servant, duh.

I'm not following.

[QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

How?

battlefront23

Because God is my servant, duh.

I'm not following.

He's being facetious.

I've never seen...battlefront23

[QUOTE="AnubisCraig"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="AnubisCraig"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="AnubisCraig"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]The holy spirit is not your personal servant.battlefront23

No it doesn't, actually. God is God; he doesn't change depending on the person.

Well since noone knows what the true religion is, or what gods true feelings towards peoples feeling are (or if there is even a god), then noone knows whether he is or not a personal servant. So it does depend on your beliefs to decide whether or not you believe he is our personal servant.

I'm confident my religion is right. Do you want me to go on and explain? :P

I'm confident that nothing you say will make me believe that your religion is 100% correct. So it'd be quite pointless, but if you feel like explaining, I'm all ears.

Love. There ya go. ;)

Abstract explanation on religion keeps my statement intact. Just because you love something, doesn't make it fact.

No I mean God's love for me. I've yet to see other religions where their God came down and died for his followers, I've yet to see a religion that can make bold claims in it's "holy" text that came to pass and have that same text never contradict itself, I've never heard of a man who said love your enemies, I've never seen a religion where the Savior (do other religions even have Saviors?) asked His father to forgive the people who were mocking him while He was dying, and I've never seen a religious man have as much impact on the world as Jesus did. There you go. Oh and I've never seen any shred of proof that disproves Jesus rose from the dead. How's that for thinking my religion is the right one?

That is just stating that you think your god loves you. Again, it is not proving any facts. Even if it was, it's still only it's a christian religion that would be right, there are many denominations of christianity that believe in many different things (such as believing that god is your personal servant or not, taking us back to the original discussion).

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I've never seen...SolidSnake35

But Libby and Josephus wrote it down as did the apostles... :|

Are we gonna question history now?

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="AnubisCraig"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="AnubisCraig"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="AnubisCraig"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]The holy spirit is not your personal servant.AnubisCraig

No it doesn't, actually. God is God; he doesn't change depending on the person.

Well since noone knows what the true religion is, or what gods true feelings towards peoples feeling are (or if there is even a god), then noone knows whether he is or not a personal servant. So it does depend on your beliefs to decide whether or not you believe he is our personal servant.

I'm confident my religion is right. Do you want me to go on and explain? :P

I'm confident that nothing you say will make me believe that your religion is 100% correct. So it'd be quite pointless, but if you feel like explaining, I'm all ears.

Love. There ya go. ;)

Abstract explanation on religion keeps my statement intact. Just because you love something, doesn't make it fact.

No I mean God's love for me. I've yet to see other religions where their God came down and died for his followers, I've yet to see a religion that can make bold claims in it's "holy" text that came to pass and have that same text never contradict itself, I've never heard of a man who said love your enemies, I've never seen a religion where the Savior (do other religions even have Saviors?) asked His father to forgive the people who were mocking him while He was dying, and I've never seen a religious man have as much impact on the world as Jesus did. There you go. Oh and I've never seen any shred of proof that disproves Jesus rose from the dead. How's that for thinking my religion is the right one?

That is just stating that you think your god loves you. Again, it is not proving any facts. Even if it was, it's still only it's a christian religion that would be right, there are many denominations of christianity that believe in many different things (such as believing that god is your personal servant or not, taking us back to the original discussion).

Nah that proves that He does. Why would/should he save me?

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I've never seen...SolidSnake35

Well said.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]I've never seen...battlefront23

But Libby and Josephus wrote it down as did the apostles... :|

Are we gonna question history now?

[QUOTE="AnubisCraig"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="AnubisCraig"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="AnubisCraig"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="AnubisCraig"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]The holy spirit is not your personal servant.battlefront23

No it doesn't, actually. God is God; he doesn't change depending on the person.

Well since noone knows what the true religion is, or what gods true feelings towards peoples feeling are (or if there is even a god), then noone knows whether he is or not a personal servant. So it does depend on your beliefs to decide whether or not you believe he is our personal servant.

I'm confident my religion is right. Do you want me to go on and explain? :P

I'm confident that nothing you say will make me believe that your religion is 100% correct. So it'd be quite pointless, but if you feel like explaining, I'm all ears.

Love. There ya go. ;)

Abstract explanation on religion keeps my statement intact. Just because you love something, doesn't make it fact.

No I mean God's love for me. I've yet to see other religions where their God came down and died for his followers, I've yet to see a religion that can make bold claims in it's "holy" text that came to pass and have that same text never contradict itself, I've never heard of a man who said love your enemies, I've never seen a religion where the Savior (do other religions even have Saviors?) asked His father to forgive the people who were mocking him while He was dying, and I've never seen a religious man have as much impact on the world as Jesus did. There you go. Oh and I've never seen any shred of proof that disproves Jesus rose from the dead. How's that for thinking my religion is the right one?

That is just stating that you think your god loves you. Again, it is not proving any facts. Even if it was, it's still only it's a christian religion that would be right, there are many denominations of christianity that believe in many different things (such as believing that god is your personal servant or not, taking us back to the original discussion).

Nah that proves that He does. Why would/should he save me?

No, no it doesn't. It just proves that you THINK that. Nobody on this Earth can prove which religion is real, or if any of them are, until they die. That is the exact reason why there are still so many religion on this planet.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]I've never seen...SolidSnake35

Highly unlikely the NT writers were liars, as they all died for their beleiefs >.>

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]I've never seen...SolidSnake35

But Libby and Josephus wrote it down as did the apostles... :|

Are we gonna question history now?

Personally I was never a fan of the Chinese Whispers game...

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]I've never seen...SolidSnake35

But Libby and Josephus wrote it down as did the apostles... :|

Are we gonna question history now?

Why would Libby and Josephus lie? Why should He? If His son isn't evidence enough, you're spiritually blind.

No I mean God's love for me. I've yet to see other religions where their God came down and died for his followers, I've yet to see a religion that can make bold claims in it's "holy" text that came to pass and have that same text never contradict itself, I've never heard of a man who said love your enemies, I've never seen a religion where the Savior (do other religions even have Saviors?) asked His father to forgive the people who were mocking him while He was dying, and I've never seen a religious man have as much impact on the world as Jesus did. There you go. Oh and I've never seen any shred of proof that disproves Jesus rose from the dead. How's that for thinking my religion is the right one?

battlefront23

There are plenty of religious figures who encouraged compassion towards their enemies.

The Bible does contradict itself in places and a lot of its prophecies are veryvague and likely inteded for an audiance closer to the time they were written. Honestly, one could make the same argument about Nostradamus.

About the Rising from the dead bit: The burden of proof rests on the person making the claim.

These points aside, Subjective emotion is not a really goodmechanism for validating anything. Especially a life choice.

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No I mean God's love for me. I've yet to see other religions where their God came down and died for his followers, I've yet to see a religion that can make bold claims in it's "holy" text that came to pass and have that same text never contradict itself, I've never heard of a man who said love your enemies, I've never seen a religion where the Savior (do other religions even have Saviors?) asked His father to forgive the people who were mocking him while He was dying, and I've never seen a religious man have as much impact on the world as Jesus did. There you go. Oh and I've never seen any shred of proof that disproves Jesus rose from the dead. How's that for thinking my religion is the right one?

Frattracide

There are plenty of religious figures who encouraged compassion towards their enemies. After Jesus, of course.

The Bible does contradict itself in places I'll use your logic against you. Prove it.

and a lot of its prophecies are veryvague True, but in Job God describes how the earth was round.

About the Rising from the dead bit: The burden of proof rests on the person making the claim. So Libby and Joeshpus and all the apostles were liars? If that was the case, why would the apostles die for a lie?

These points aside, Subjective emotion is not a really goodmechanism for validating anything. Especially a life choice. Where else does a God love his people as much as the Christian one?

Why would Libby and Josephus lie? Why should He? If His son isn't evidence enough, you're spiritually blind.battlefront23

So Libby and Joeshpus and all the apostles were liars? If that was the case, why would the apostles die for a lie? battlefront23

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No I mean God's love for me. I've yet to see other religions where their God came down and died for his followers, I've yet to see a religion that can make bold claims in it's "holy" text that came to pass and have that same text never contradict itself, I've never heard of a man who said love your enemies, I've never seen a religion where the Savior (do other religions even have Saviors?) asked His father to forgive the people who were mocking him while He was dying, and I've never seen a religious man have as much impact on the world as Jesus did. There you go. Oh and I've never seen any shred of proof that disproves Jesus rose from the dead. How's that for thinking my religion is the right one?

battlefront23

There are plenty of religious figures who encouraged compassion towards their enemies. After Jesus, of course.

The Bible does contradict itself in places I'll use your logic against you. Prove it.

and a lot of its prophecies are veryvague True, but in Job God describes how the earth was round.

About the Rising from the dead bit: The burden of proof rests on the person making the claim. So Libby and Joeshpus and all the apostles were liars? If that was the case, why would the apostles die for a lie?

These points aside, Subjective emotion is not a really goodmechanism for validating anything. Especially a life choice. Where else does a God love his people as much as the Christian one?

I'll do you one better.

What other religion asserts that God is Love?

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]Why would Libby and Josephus lie? Why should He? If His son isn't evidence enough, you're spiritually blind.SolidSnake35

Since God is perfect and His Bible is His holy word, why would he put flaws in it?

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

No I mean God's love for me. I've yet to see other religions where their God came down and died for his followers, I've yet to see a religion that can make bold claims in it's "holy" text that came to pass and have that same text never contradict itself, I've never heard of a man who said love your enemies, I've never seen a religion where the Savior (do other religions even have Saviors?) asked His father to forgive the people who were mocking him while He was dying, and I've never seen a religious man have as much impact on the world as Jesus did. There you go. Oh and I've never seen any shred of proof that disproves Jesus rose from the dead. How's that for thinking my religion is the right one?

STWELCH

There are plenty of religious figures who encouraged compassion towards their enemies. After Jesus, of course.

The Bible does contradict itself in places I'll use your logic against you. Prove it.

and a lot of its prophecies are veryvague True, but in Job God describes how the earth was round.

About the Rising from the dead bit: The burden of proof rests on the person making the claim. So Libby and Joeshpus and all the apostles were liars? If that was the case, why would the apostles die for a lie?

These points aside, Subjective emotion is not a really goodmechanism for validating anything. Especially a life choice. Where else does a God love his people as much as the Christian one?

I'll do you one better.

What other religion asserts that God is Love?

I don't know. I really can't think of any...

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]So Libby and Joeshpus and all the apostles were liars? If that was the case, why would the apostles die for a lie? SolidSnake35

Well twelve people don't just up and decide to spread a lie and die for it. And a persecutor of christian beleifs doesn't just up and decide to preach it, and die for it. I'm speaking of Paul and the disciples.

Since God is perfect and His Bible is His holy word, why would he put flaws in it?battlefront23

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]So Libby and Joeshpus and all the apostles were liars? If that was the case, why would the apostles die for a lie? 123625

Well twelve people don't just up and decide to spread a lie and die for it. And a persecutor of christian beleifs doesn't just up and decide to preach it, and die for it. I'm speaking of Paul and the disciples.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]Since God is perfect and His Bible is His holy word, why would he put flaws in it?SolidSnake35

Well what does inspired mean to you?

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]So Libby and Joeshpus and all the apostles were liars? If that was the case, why would the apostles die for a lie? SolidSnake35

Well twelve people don't just up and decide to spread a lie and die for it. And a persecutor of christian beleifs doesn't just up and decide to preach it, and die for it. I'm speaking of Paul and the disciples.

Not saying you should beleive in anything, just that these are the facts and its unreasonable to think they would all die for lie.

Well what does inspired mean to you? battlefront23

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]Well what does inspired mean to you? SolidSnake35