How to end the illegal immigration problem.

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"]My solution is to not give a **** what country someone is from. And I don't.UT_Wrestler

Touchy subject. Who am I to judge really? When each of us were born.. we didn't get to select whether we wanted to be white, black, asian, hispanic or whatever creed, race, ethinicity. It's easy for some of us to talk about anti-immigration when some of us are not illegals. Be in their shoes for a day and see how pathetic your reactions are just because you have God-given American citizenship.

Yes please get rid of the anchor baby loophole. Tighten up border security, no Green Card equals instant deportation, if they resist they go to jail for 15 years.

If they cross into our border without authorization why can't we just shoot on sight? They are infiltrating a restricted area.

MagnumPI

[QUOTE="MagnumPI"]

If they cross into our border without authorization why can't we just shoot on sight? They are infiltrating a restricted area.

StopThePresses

[QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"][QUOTE="StopThePresses"]My solution is to not give a **** what country someone is from. And I don't.StopThePresses

But they can be found easily since they are already in the system even if they have no prior criminal record. You would be suprised what they can find. Many of the police within that city or the next know the guy. So eventually they are caught and many of the people that are brought in are discovered to be linked toseveral unresolved cases. So they all get caught eventually. An illegal would be long gone forever without a trace.

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"][QUOTE="MagnumPI"]

If they cross into our border without authorization why can't we just shoot on sight? They are infiltrating a restricted area.

Elian2530

It's not a thirst for blood and it's not about inhumanity. It's about securing our territory. Give them a reason NOT totresspass.I wouldn't feel sorry for them. They wouldknow the rules and if they don't like the rules they shouldn't be playing the game.Don't hate the players... hate the game.

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"][QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"] Until you they rob you or rape you and then the police can't track them because they have no ID or social security number, then you might start caring.MagnumPI

But they can be found easily since they are already in the system even if they have no prior criminal record. You would be suprised what they can find. Many of the police within that city or the next know the guy. So eventually they are caught and many of the people that are brought in are discovered to be linked toseveral unresolved cases. So they all get caught eventually. An illegal would be long gone forever without a trace.

[QUOTE="Elian2530"]

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"] I like to think that it's because the majority of the American populace is not bloodthirsty.MagnumPI

It's not a thirst for blood and it's not about inhumanity. It's about securing our territory. Give them a reason NOT totresspass.I wouldn't feel sorry for them. They wouldknow the rules and if they don't like the rules they shouldn't be playing the game.Don't hate the players... hate the game.

Remember that our founders are a bunch of murderous terrorirsts who came over here without any legal papers...Aw god bless America!

[QUOTE="MagnumPI"]

[QUOTE="Elian2530"] Or barbaric. That would be inhumane.. Wouldn't it MagnumPI? Would you like to get shot in the face? This is the problem with our world.

StopThePresses

It's not a thirst for blood and it's not about inhumanity. It's about securing our territory. Give them a reason NOT totresspass.I wouldn't feel sorry for them. They wouldknow the rules and if they don't like the rules they shouldn't be playing the game.Don't hate the players... hate the game.

I was born here, I'm a citizen.

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"][QUOTE="MagnumPI"]

It's not a thirst for blood and it's not about inhumanity. It's about securing our territory. Give them a reason NOT totresspass.I wouldn't feel sorry for them. They wouldknow the rules and if they don't like the rules they shouldn't be playing the game.Don't hate the players... hate the game.

MagnumPI

I was born here, I'm a citizen.

Remember that our founders are a bunch of murderous terrorirsts who came over here without any legal papers...Aw god bless America!

IWKYB

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"][QUOTE="MagnumPI"]

It's not a thirst for blood and it's not about inhumanity. It's about securing our territory. Give them a reason NOT totresspass.I wouldn't feel sorry for them. They wouldknow the rules and if they don't like the rules they shouldn't be playing the game.Don't hate the players... hate the game.

MagnumPI

I was born here, I'm a citizen.

[QUOTE="IWKYB"]

Remember that our founders are a bunch of murderous terrorirsts who came over here without any legal papers...Aw god bless America!

Ken_Masterz

Convenient argument for a country founded on blood/it happened so WHAT? I am dissapoint. :lol:IWKYB

[QUOTE="IWKYB"]Convenient argument for a country founded on blood/it happened so WHAT? I am dissapoint. :lol:Ken_Masterz

[QUOTE="MagnumPI"]

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"] Riiiight, because if someone else is going to rob me, they're going to show me their ID first.StopThePresses

But they can be found easily since they are already in the system even if they have no prior criminal record. You would be suprised what they can find. Many of the police within that city or the next know the guy. So eventually they are caught and many of the people that are brought in are discovered to be linked toseveral unresolved cases. So they all get caught eventually. An illegal would be long gone forever without a trace.

Don't need a drivers license or state I.D, because they already know when you werebornwhere you were born, they have blood samples and fingerprints, hair color, eye color, skin toneas well as a copy of your birth certificate. They know were you resided when you were a child and a record or your progress from there on. They know your family tree, they have your tax returns, your mail address andphone number. If you registered to vote they have that too. School records, hospital records and so on. If you're a citizen they know everything. Some of these things they may not have or be able to obtain but it's so redundant that i doesn't matter.All they need is a suspect or some otherreason to suspect it may have been you because identifying or finding you is not a issue. Other people within the area probably know you and they know your dailyroutines better than you do.

How do you find someone that doesn't exist?If you don't catch them red handed you never will.

Touchy subject. Who am I to judge really? When each of us were born.. we didn't get to select whether we wanted to be white, black, asian, hispanic or whatever creed, race, ethinicity. It's easy for some of us to talk about anti-immigration when some of us are not illegals. Be in their shoes for a day and see how pathetic your reactions are just because you have God-given American citizenship.

Elian2530

Duh and nope coming here and committing genocide wasn't cool/we need a new revolution like our badass anarchist forefathers. Btw boarders is a whole other word.IWKYB

[QUOTE="Elian2530"] Or barbaric. That would be inhumane.. Wouldn't it MagnumPI? Would you like to get shot in the face? This is the problem with our world.

It's not a thirst for blood and it's not about inhumanity. It's about securing our territory. Give them a reason NOT totresspass.I wouldn't feel sorry for them. They wouldknow the rules and if they don't like the rules they shouldn't be playing the game.Don't hate the players... hate the game.

Garrus can't land on Earth. Keep those aliens OFF my planet! lol.IWKYB

Though you make a decent point, we should just make a giant 5,000 mile wall like the Great Wall of China...but we can call it the Great Wall of America.Mythomniac

Don't need a drivers license or state I.D, because they already know when you werebornwhere you were born, they have blood samples and fingerprints, hair color, eye color, skin toneas well as a copy of your birth certificate. They know were you resided when you were a child and a record or your progress from there on. They know your family tree, they have your tax returns, your mail address andphone number. If you registered to vote they have that too. School records, hospital records and so on. If you're a citizen they know everything. Some of these things they may not have or be able to obtain but it's so redundant that i doesn't matter.All they need is a suspect or some otherreason to suspect it may have been you because identifying or finding you is not a issue. Other people within the area probably know you and they know your dailyroutines better than you do.

How do you find someone that doesn't exist?If you don't catch them red handed you never will.

MagnumPI

[QUOTE="MagnumPI"]

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"] Why are you entitled to live in this country? What did you do that is so special?IWKYB

I was born here, I'm a citizen.

So you are saying we need toexterminate allof theinvaders before they overrun and terrorize us.I don't disagree.

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"][QUOTE="MagnumPI"]

It's not a thirst for blood and it's not about inhumanity. It's about securing our territory. Give them a reason NOT totresspass.I wouldn't feel sorry for them. They wouldknow the rules and if they don't like the rules they shouldn't be playing the game.Don't hate the players... hate the game.

UT_Wrestler

[QUOTE="IWKYB"][QUOTE="MagnumPI"]

I was born here, I'm a citizen.

MagnumPI

So you are saying we need toexterminate allof theinvaders before they overrun and terrorize us.I don't disagree.

[QUOTE="MagnumPI"]

Don't need a drivers license or state I.D, because they already know when you werebornwhere you were born, they have blood samples and fingerprints, hair color, eye color, skin toneas well as a copy of your birth certificate. They know were you resided when you were a child and a record or your progress from there on. They know your family tree, they have your tax returns, your mail address andphone number. If you registered to vote they have that too. School records, hospital records and so on. If you're a citizen they know everything. Some of these things they may not have or be able to obtain but it's so redundant that i doesn't matter.All they need is a suspect or some otherreason to suspect it may have been you because identifying or finding you is not a issue. Other people within the area probably know you and they know your dailyroutines better than you do.

How do you find someone that doesn't exist?If you don't catch them red handed you never will.

StopThePresses

All investigations start with suspects so if you have no **** clue who the guy is or where to find since no one around has any idea whohe is how do determine who he is? If he's an illegal immigrant the chances of never finding him are close toimpossible since no one can identify him and he probably won't ever come back into the states of a long time.

You're easy to find because you reside in one location and have for a verylong time so most people within that city and a few over know you. Maybe not personally but they have seen you enough torecognize you.You are not hard to find. An immigrant stays in an area for short periods of time and never returns and nobody knows the person and probably aren't aware of his existence. Leaves no record of presence becausehe ishere illegally. They do everything possible to remain unknown.

The mexican government wouldn't disclose any information unless their was some kind of irrefutable proof of guilt. But at that point you wouldn't need it anyway. Besides he may have been born in a village or some other location without all of the things we have in the U.S. He may not even have abirth record. He may not have any records of existenceanywhere.

I doubt he would be on record with interpol, not unless he's a mass murder or notorious on purpose.

[QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"][QUOTE="StopThePresses"] Why are you entitled to live in this country? What did you do that is so special?StopThePresses

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"]

[QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"] We are naturalized citizens by birth. If I wanted to become a citizen of another country, I would go through the proper legal process of becoming a citizen.UT_Wrestler

[QUOTE="MagnumPI"]

[QUOTE="IWKYB"] Our founder fathers are British Terrorists. They have no rights, weren't born here and would prob laugh at your "I was born here" argument.StopThePresses

So you are saying we need toexterminate allof theinvaders before they overrun and terrorize us.I don't disagree.

Yes please get rid of the anchor baby loophole. Tighten up border security, no Green Card equals instant deportation, if they resist they go to jail for 15 years.

Snipes_2

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Yes please get rid of the anchor baby loophole. Tighten up border security, no Green Card equals instant deportation, if they resist they go to jail for 15 years.

T_P_O

[QUOTE="T_P_O"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Yes please get rid of the anchor baby loophole. Tighten up border security, no Green Card equals instant deportation, if they resist they go to jail for 15 years.

Snipes_2

[QUOTE="T_P_O"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Yes please get rid of the anchor baby loophole. Tighten up border security, no Green Card equals instant deportation, if they resist they go to jail for 15 years.

Snipes_2

Creepy smile doesn't help with sarcasm.

Oh, and keeping people in jail costs taxpayers money by the way..

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] They would be in United States Prisons. After Jail, We deport them anyway. It's just to deter them, if jail doesn't work. We start Executing. :)Snipes_2

I can't tell sarcasm with the creepy smile..

And long jail sentences = tax payer money to fund an illegal to stay in our jail.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Dude.....execution is a bit extreme. Perhaps better border security. I'm against illegal immigration but I don't think it deserves the death sentence. Have the businesses fined and fined heavily and publish their names so people can boycott their products.taj7575

I can't tell sarcasm with the creepy smile..

And long jail sentences = tax payer money to fund an illegal to stay in our jail.

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I was partly kidding with the Execution. I think a long jail sentence and then Deportation would work as a good deterrent. And definitely fine and boycott the businesses that hire them. Snipes_2

I can't tell sarcasm with the creepy smile..

And long jail sentences = tax payer money to fund an illegal to stay in our jail.

And throwing them in a jail where they would at least have shelter and get food will make them not want to come back?

long jail sentences = tax payer money to fund an illegal to stay in our jail.taj7575

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="taj7575"]

I can't tell sarcasm with the creepy smile..

And long jail sentences = tax payer money to fund an illegal to stay in our jail.

taj7575

And throwing them in a jail where they would at least have shelter and get food will make them not want to come back?

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Deportation won't deter them though, they just go back to their own country, stay there for a week or two and then come back. Snipes_2

And throwing them in a jail where they would at least have shelter and get food will make them not want to come back?

You can't torture prisoners and keep them away from food. This isn't China. We must be living in different countries..

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="taj7575"]

And throwing them in a jail where they would at least have shelter and get food will make them not want to come back?

taj7575

You can't torture prisoners and keep them away from food. This isn't China. We must be living in different countries..