How to end the illegal immigration problem.

They can still have some Hard Labor though, maybe 5-10 years. Snipes_2

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Who said they get any food? ;) Hard Labor would work, Prison is not a pretty thing. I don't think they would want to come back after staying there with Hard Labor. Snipes_2

You can't torture prisoners and keep them away from food. This isn't China. We must be living in different countries..

Thats too much, and again, not worth it. If we put every illegal in jail, our jails would overpopulate and it's a waste of time.

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You can't torture prisoners and keep them away from food. This isn't China. We must be living in different countries..

taj7575

Thats too much, and again, not worth it. If we put every illegal in jail, our jails would overpopulate and it's a waste of time.

@ #1) The child has the right to be an American citizen because he/she was born in the USA. When my brother was born neither one of my parents were US citizens but they were legal citizens. Now they have dual citizenship from Portugal and USA.

EDIT: I agree with #2

So what....illegal is illegal. If someone poor stole your car and all your money would you be fine with it?LJS9502_basic

My position is that it should not be illegal in the first place, so what sense would it make for me to want a harsher punishment? I think that if the process of being granted citizenship was made easier, then actually it would be easier to weed out the serious criminals also, since they'd presumably be the only ones trying to SNEAK in.StopThePresses

If you don't wish to follow them....find another place where you like the laws...LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] If you don't wish to follow them....find another place where you like the laws...StopThePresses

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"]My position is that it should not be illegal in the first place, so what sense would it make for me to want a harsher punishment? I think that if the process of being granted citizenship was made easier, then actually it would be easier to weed out the serious criminals also, since they'd presumably be the only ones trying to SNEAK in.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] If you don't wish to follow them....find another place where you like the laws...LJS9502_basic

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[QUOTE="StopThePresses"]My position is that it should not be illegal in the first place, so what sense would it make for me to want a harsher punishment? I think that if the process of being granted citizenship was made easier, then actually it would be easier to weed out the serious criminals also, since they'd presumably be the only ones trying to SNEAK in.Ninja-Hippo

So you want the benefits of society but don't want to follow their rules as how to run said society? Seems a double standard TBH....LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Hence the uninhabited portion of my response which you cut out.....;)LJS9502_basic

give them $100 to go back!!!

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]So you want the benefits of society but don't want to follow their rules as how to run said society? Seems a double standard TBH....LJS9502_basic

meh, its hypocritical to say we need to get rid of all illegal immigrants when this country was founded on it. i dont people realize how hard people in mexico have it and most dont have the money to get over here legally. who am i to deny someone trying to make a better life for themselves?mems_1224

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]meh, its hypocritical to say we need to get rid of all illegal immigrants when this country was founded on it. i dont people realize how hard people in mexico have it and most dont have the money to get over here legally. who am i to deny someone trying to make a better life for themselves?UT_Wrestler

[QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]meh, its hypocritical to say we need to get rid of all illegal immigrants when this country was founded on it. i dont people realize how hard people in mexico have it and most dont have the money to get over here legally. who am i to deny someone trying to make a better life for themselves?fat_rob

[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"] You are incorrect sir. The country was founded by LEGAL immigrants. I don't understand why so many people can't distinguish between legal immigrants and illegal aliens.UT_Wrestler

Here's how you end the illegal immigration problem; open borders.-Sun_Tzu-

Any prosperity that a country enjoys has been obtained through past and existing citizens. Therefore current citizens should be able to decide what standards should be applied to people wishing to enter their country and benefit from that prosperity. The only way to accomplish this, in my opinion, is through closely guarded physical barriers and strict pathways to citizenship.

Any prosperity that a country enjoys has been obtained through past and existing citizens. Therefore current citizens should be able to decide what standards should be applied to people wishing to enter their country and benefit from that prosperity. The only way to accomplish this, in my opinion, is through closely guarded physical barriers and strict pathways to citizenship.

espoac

So you don't think the native americans had a system to govern bringing new people into the community?fat_rob

Did they?

[QUOTE="fat_rob"]So you don't think the native americans had a system to govern bringing new people into the community?AHUGECAT

Did they?

[QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"]As cool as that sounds, there's 2 problems. 1. That would cost hundreds of billions of dollars, 2. it does nothing about the ones that are already hereairshocker

The Border Patrol isn't doing the job assigned to them. They don't have enough personnel, and they don't have the equipment. Making a separate branch of the military will solve all of that. I'd much rather them spend the billions on this than the billions on broken legislation.

We can use your options for the ones that are already here.

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[QUOTE="fat_rob"]So you don't think the native americans had a system to govern bringing new people into the community?fat_rob

Did they?

Lets not forget the annexation of Texas, which was part of Mexico, fill the state with Americans and get them to declare sovereignty.

Link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Annexation

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'd go for deportation rather than jail which is a further drain on taxpayers....LJS9502_basic

Here's how you end the illegal immigration problem; open borders.-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]Here's how you end the illegal immigration problem; open borders.l4dak47

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]Here's how you end the illegal immigration problem; open borders.-Sun_Tzu-

I have an even simpler plan. Create a new branch of the military called the Border Guard. Give them two bases along the border in Texas, one in AZ, one in NM, and one in CA. Use airborne personnel as response forces, and ground vehicle-borne personnel as patrols. And the major thing...use a USAF predator drone detachment for every base.

Our border would be secure in no time.