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#51 LJS9502_basic
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Whole milk is nasty.

I drink Fat Free, Lactose-Free milk.

And it makes me better then all of you.

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Lactose intolerant eh? I can drink any milk I want. :D
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#52 LJS9502_basic
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Last I checked, chocolate milk has more protein than regular. I don't know about school milks, though. Chocolate is much better.BranKetra
Schools buy pints of milk that are the same brand you can purchase in the grocery.
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#53 Omni-Slash
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Wow, you really are just trying to troll. The milk that is in schools is the kind that they say is fattier than a Big Mac burger. It doesn't matter if you think it's low-fat or not. The regular stuff has even more than that. Try doing some research before trolling educated people.GladlyHandly
uhuh.....well I can see I'm dealing with a highly educated person here....."They" must be incredibly intelligent as well...
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#54 branketra
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"]Last I checked, chocolate milk has more protein than regular. I don't know about school milks, though. Chocolate is much better.LJS9502_basic
Schools buy pints of milk that are the same brand you can purchase in the grocery.

I don't know. I remember in kindergarten, I read the labels and they were the same...but that was a while ago.
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I'm still confused by the fact that American schools supply food. Here you bring your own stuff, and if you want to buy something from the canteen you can as a treat. I remember the canteen at my primary school was, as is most, run by volunteers and only opened 3 days a week. There you could buy meat pies, sausage rolls, doughnuts, etc. However the majority of food you ate during school was that which you brought from home ...

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#56 Alter_Echo
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Hopefully public schools can get super important matters like this nailed down quickly so they can worry about the bevy of smaller problems like how they by and large, suck at teaching and stuff like that.

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#58 Omni-Slash
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I'm still confused by the fact that American schools supply food. Here you bring your own stuff, and if you want to buy something from the canteen you can as a treat. I remember the canteen at my primary school was, as is most, run by volunteers and only opened 3 days a week. There you could buy meat pies, sausage rolls, doughnuts, etc. However the majority of food you ate during school was that which you brought from home ...

daqua_99
I actually agree with this...the problem is that these days people think govt needs top provide for them at all times.....my kids buy their lunch maybe one day a week....but other than that my wife nad I pack their lunch most days...
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#59 comp_atkins
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"]they'll survive just fine without it.Captain_Swosh69
And they will continue to take away rights to personal freedom....but hey....we'll survive just fine without it....right?

were talking about flavored milk here

seriously.. take the drama down a notch or two... kids don't need access to 500 different choices because it makes them happy... they're kids. they'll get over it.
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#60 LJS9502_basic
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I'm still confused by the fact that American schools supply food. Here you bring your own stuff, and if you want to buy something from the canteen you can as a treat. I remember the canteen at my primary school was, as is most, run by volunteers and only opened 3 days a week. There you could buy meat pies, sausage rolls, doughnuts, etc. However the majority of food you ate during school was that which you brought from home ...

daqua_99
Wow...they need to close those canteens.....donuts, meat pies, and sausage rolls. Schools provide food which students pay for...unless the family is low income and then it's free or reduced.
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#61 Serraph105
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I think people need to start being a lot more careful in what they do. I honestly don't see removing chocolate milk from schools as doing really anything to fighting obesity. Yes chocolate will include a lot of calories, but honestly milk has a lot of calories on it's own. Not to mention all the other crap schools tend to offer kids at incredibly low prices I don't see that removing the chocolate from their meal of fries, burgers, and cookies as a true effort to be doing anything constructive.

Omni I definitely disagree with you on the McDonalds thing, but we definitely agree on this. It's just too minimal of an effort in my mind to actually end up being helpful.

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#62 Omni-Slash
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Nice, don't come up with anything fact-wise to retort. It's obvious from my previous readings of this thread that all of your retorts are just aimed at making people upset, hence the title of trolling. I'm done here.GladlyHandly
except that you didn't say anything to retort.... :?
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#63 branketra
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Hopefully public schools can get super important matters like this nailed down quickly so they can worry about the bevy of smaller problems like how they by and large, suck at teaching and stuff like that.

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It all starts with a healthy breakfast.
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[QUOTE="Captain_Swosh69"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] And they will continue to take away rights to personal freedom....but hey....we'll survive just fine without it....right?comp_atkins
were talking about flavored milk here

seriously.. take the drama down a notch or two... kids don't need access to 500 different choices because it makes them happy... they're kids. they'll get over it.

FLAVORED MILK = SRS BIZNESS.

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Fiedler just returned from Mom Congress on Education and Learning in Washington D.C. where there was a lot of discussion on the issue.Omni-Slash
"Mom Congress"? Really? I hate people who think that being a parent is some enormous achievement and somehow makes them important. Even worse is when they think the rest of society should relegate themselves to being treated like children so that there's never anything to "harm" children like high-sugar foods, violent video games and movies, and songs with risque lyrics and cursing.
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Oh and by the way. For your further edification. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/article767631.ece http://www.cspinet.org/nah/11_99/best_and_worst.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-438881/The-Royal-pasty-thats-unhealthier-Big-Mac.html http://www.nowpublic.com/health/big-mac-less-fat-supermarket-salads Do you want more?
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#67 Omni-Slash
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Omni I definitely disagree with you on the McDonalds thing, but we definitely agree on this. It's just too minimal of an effort in my mind to actually end up being helpful.

Serraph105
and the thing is..OJ...Ice Cream...and any of their sides are far worse for a student than chocolate milk....food can't be avoided....what needs to be taught is balance and basic nutrition...(along with excercise)...
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"]

I think people need to start being a lot more careful in what they do. I honestly don't see removing chocolate milk from schools as doing really anything to fighting obesity. Yes chocolate will include a lot of calories, but honestly milk has a lot of calories on it's own. Not to mention all the other crap schools tend to offer kids at incredibly low prices I don't see that removing the chocolate from their meal of fries, burgers, and cookies as a true effort to be doing anything constructive.

Omni I definitely disagree with you on the McDonalds thing, but we definitely agree on this. It's just too minimal of an effort in my mind to actually end up being helpful.

how about we make gym classes performance based again?
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When I was in sixth grade (2001, not that long ago...) our school cafeteria had all kinds of candy bars for sale, but I'm sure they're gone now. :(

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#70 Omni-Slash
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Oh and by the way. For your further edification. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/article767631.ece http://www.cspinet.org/nah/11_99/best_and_worst.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-438881/The-Royal-pasty-thats-unhealthier-Big-Mac.html http://www.nowpublic.com/health/big-mac-less-fat-supermarket-salads Do you want more?GladlyHandly
you didn't post anything at all related to chocolate milk in schools...are you reading the articles you are posting?...
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="Serraph105"]

I think people need to start being a lot more careful in what they do. I honestly don't see removing chocolate milk from schools as doing really anything to fighting obesity. Yes chocolate will include a lot of calories, but honestly milk has a lot of calories on it's own. Not to mention all the other crap schools tend to offer kids at incredibly low prices I don't see that removing the chocolate from their meal of fries, burgers, and cookies as a true effort to be doing anything constructive.

Omni I definitely disagree with you on the McDonalds thing, but we definitely agree on this. It's just too minimal of an effort in my mind to actually end up being helpful.

how about we make gym classes performance based again?

not sure what you mean......when I was in gym you had to be able to do some things by the end of it to pass. I do understand where people are coming from though when they argue kids shouldn't fail high school just because they can't run a mile under a certain time limit.
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#72 daqua_99
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[QUOTE="daqua_99"]

I'm still confused by the fact that American schools supply food. Here you bring your own stuff, and if you want to buy something from the canteen you can as a treat. I remember the canteen at my primary school was, as is most, run by volunteers and only opened 3 days a week. There you could buy meat pies, sausage rolls, doughnuts, etc. However the majority of food you ate during school was that which you brought from home ...

LJS9502_basic

Wow...they need to close those canteens.....donuts, meat pies, and sausage rolls. Schools provide food which students pay for...unless the family is low income and then it's free or reduced.

That was primary. High school was even better. We had three Coca-cola vending machines, plus a Mars Bar one and a flavoured milk one. They also sold things like pizza slabs, ice creams, etc. However it was all our choice. We were taught about diet in PDHPE and most people made the right choices.

I'm overweight, and I've gained weight over the past few weeks. However I know I can bring it down again with a few solid weeks of gym. Six solid hours a week, plus limiting my fast-food intake to about once every 2 days, and I'll get back down. This sort of thing needs to be drilled into kids. It's about moderation and a ned to exercise.

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#73 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="GladlyHandly"]Oh and by the way. For your further edification.

I looked at the top two....which weren't about chocolate milk. Though I did find it ironic coming from a country that deep fries candy bars.
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="Serraph105"]

I think people need to start being a lot more careful in what they do. I honestly don't see removing chocolate milk from schools as doing really anything to fighting obesity. Yes chocolate will include a lot of calories, but honestly milk has a lot of calories on it's own. Not to mention all the other crap schools tend to offer kids at incredibly low prices I don't see that removing the chocolate from their meal of fries, burgers, and cookies as a true effort to be doing anything constructive.

Omni I definitely disagree with you on the McDonalds thing, but we definitely agree on this. It's just too minimal of an effort in my mind to actually end up being helpful.

how about we make gym classes performance based again?

not sure what you mean......when I was in gym you had to be able to do some things by the end of it to pass. I do understand where people are coming from though when they argue kids shouldn't fail high school just because they can't run a mile under a certain time limit.

they should not pass gym if they cannot RUN a mile. and when i was in school you got your gym grade based on being dressed for class or not.
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#75 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="daqua_99"]

I'm still confused by the fact that American schools supply food. Here you bring your own stuff, and if you want to buy something from the canteen you can as a treat. I remember the canteen at my primary school was, as is most, run by volunteers and only opened 3 days a week. There you could buy meat pies, sausage rolls, doughnuts, etc. However the majority of food you ate during school was that which you brought from home ...

daqua_99

Wow...they need to close those canteens.....donuts, meat pies, and sausage rolls. Schools provide food which students pay for...unless the family is low income and then it's free or reduced.

That was primary. High school was even better. We had three Coca-cola vending machines, plus a Mars Bar one and a flavoured milk one. They also sold things like pizza slabs, ice creams, etc. However it was all our choice. We were taught about diet in PDHPE and most people made the right choices.

I'm overweight, and I've gained weight over the past few weeks. However I know I can bring it down again with a few solid weeks of gym. Six solid hours a week, plus limiting my fast-food intake to about once every 2 days, and I'll get back down. This sort of thing needs to be drilled into kids. It's about moderation and a ned to exercise.

That's the thing. I'm not for taking choice away from people. And much of the weight problem comes down to a lack of exercise. So taking a pint of chocolate milk away will do nothing to make people healthy.

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#76 Omni-Slash
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what a minute...do some of the people from England think Chocolate Milk = Ice Cream?......
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That's the thing. I'm not for taking choice away from people. And much of the weight problem comes down to a lack of exercise. So taking a pint of chocolate milk away will do nothing to make people healthy.

LJS9502_basic

Exactly. Oh also, our school did twice the required hours of sports for a year. Instead of the minimum 2-hours a week we had 4 hours of sport. Realistically, 2 hours a week is nothing, and what constitutes "sport" needs to be re-defined. I spent 6 months doing lawn bowls and another year doing ten-pin as my required sport ... there should be a requirement of at least 2 hours of "physical" sport (i.e. involving frequent movement) and then any additional hours could be spent on other things.

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what a minute...do some of the people from England think Chocolate Milk = Ice Cream?......Omni-Slash
Lol no, we have that here too
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what a minute...do some of the people from England think Chocolate Milk = Ice Cream?......Omni-Slash
Yes, we also wear shoes on our hands and gloves on our feet :P
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[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]what a minute...do some of the people from England think Chocolate Milk = Ice Cream?......toast_burner
Yes, we also wear shoes on our hands and gloves on our feet :P

and hamburgers eat people?
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I **** hate schools like the one in the OP. I don't exactly agree with the idea ofthe school interfering with my personal life and deciding what I should be eating.

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]what a minute...do some of the people from England think Chocolate Milk = Ice Cream?......surrealnumber5
Yes, we also wear shoes on our hands and gloves on our feet :P

and hamburgers eat people?

Unfortunately they get lose occasionally, but we mostly have them under control

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] And a cup of chocolate milk is not going to hurt anyone......maybe we should remove video games and the internet. After all....that doesn't do anything for exercise which children need.Omni-Slash
that's the thing...it;s only a matter of time til the health police come knocking on your door and put regulations on the TV you can watch....amount of time your computer can be on....games can be played....it is after all..better for you....

:lol: If that isn't the silliest slippery slope arguments I've ever heard, I don't know what is. God forbid the school stops providing chocolate milk in it's own cafeteria. If your kids want it, they should bring it from home.
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[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] And a cup of chocolate milk is not going to hurt anyone......maybe we should remove video games and the internet. After all....that doesn't do anything for exercise which children need.majoras_wrath
that's the thing...it;s only a matter of time til the health police come knocking on your door and put regulations on the TV you can watch....amount of time your computer can be on....games can be played....it is after all..better for you....

:lol: If that isn't the silliest slippery slope arguments I've ever heard, I don't know what is. God forbid the school stops providing chocolate milk in it's own cafeteria. If your kids want it, they should bring it from home.

but schools are starting to outlaw meals from home...
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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="Omni-Slash"] that's the thing...it;s only a matter of time til the health police come knocking on your door and put regulations on the TV you can watch....amount of time your computer can be on....games can be played....it is after all..better for you....surrealnumber5
:lol: If that isn't the silliest slippery slope arguments I've ever heard, I don't know what is. God forbid the school stops providing chocolate milk in it's own cafeteria. If your kids want it, they should bring it from home.

but schools are starting to outlaw meals from home...

Then thats not ok. But this is not one of those cases, and I am amused at the over the top "WE'RE LOSING OUR LIBERTY!!!!!" reactions to something like this.
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From my understanding, dairy and sugar in general isn't the healthiest thing for you. I'm all for trying to educate kids about the benefits of healthy eating, but if this makes them revert from chocolate milk to a can of pop then whats the point?

If schools are so concerned about junk food intake, they should educate children on the matter... isn't that what schools are for?

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[QUOTE="qead"]

From my understanding, dairy and sugar in general isn't the healthiest thing for you. I'm all for trying to educate kids about the benefits of healthy eating, but if this makes them revert from chocolate milk to a can of pop then whats the point?

If schools are so concerned about junk food intake, they should educate children on the matter... isn't that what schools are for?

what about milk is bad for you?
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] :lol: If that isn't the silliest slippery slope arguments I've ever heard, I don't know what is. God forbid the school stops providing chocolate milk in it's own cafeteria. If your kids want it, they should bring it from home.majoras_wrath
but schools are starting to outlaw meals from home...

Then thats not ok. But this is not one of those cases, and I am amused at the over the top "WE'RE LOSING OUR LIBERTY!!!!!" reactions to something like this.

I will admit that schools not offering chocolate milk is not the same them telling parents what their kids can and cannot eat in the first place, but I do see this as the ultimate minimal effort that won't end up actually making any sort of difference.
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what about milk is bad for you?

surrealnumber5

It's only bad for you if you don't get up and do some exercise every once in a while.

Or if you're lactose intolerant. :P

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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] but schools are starting to outlaw meals from home...

Then thats not ok. But this is not one of those cases, and I am amused at the over the top "WE'RE LOSING OUR LIBERTY!!!!!" reactions to something like this.

I will admit that schools not offering chocolate milk is not the same them telling parents what their kids can and cannot eat in the first place, but I do see this as the ultimate minimal effort that won't end up actually making any sort of difference.

I agree. I think it would be better if they actually made an effort to serve healthier food in the cafeteria as well as stopping the sale of pop.
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#91 Serraph105
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From my understanding, dairy and sugar in general isn't the healthiest thing for you. I'm all for trying to educate kids about the benefits of healthy eating, but if this makes them revert from chocolate milk to a can of pop then whats the point?

If schools are so concerned about junk food intake, they should educate children on the matter... isn't that what schools are for?

qead
I'd actually argue that they do that with health class and it isn't currently making a difference (If it was obesity might not be a problem currently). Perhaps if they added extra emphasis on it, it could help or figure out a new way of teaching it so it not only sinks in, but kids truly understand the reasons behind it. I honestly think education could be sped up if we taught kids why they are doing these things rather than expecting them to figure it out later. I'm looking at you math class.
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#92 qead
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I've personally had bad experiences with it, when i was little i was constantly sick and drank milk all the time. Following the doctor's advice, my parents stopped giving me milk, and it actually helped quite a bit

My mother went to a natural path doctor for general wellness, and she suggested that milk and dairy be cut out of our diets entirely. My mom claims she has alot more energy right now, but who knows...

http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/ - I found this with a quick google search... the page is obviously arguing for one side, but it does cite a few research articles that seem pretty telling

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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] Then thats not ok. But this is not one of those cases, and I am amused at the over the top "WE'RE LOSING OUR LIBERTY!!!!!" reactions to something like this.majoras_wrath
I will admit that schools not offering chocolate milk is not the same them telling parents what their kids can and cannot eat in the first place, but I do see this as the ultimate minimal effort that won't end up actually making any sort of difference.

I agree. I think it would be better if they actually made an effort to serve healthier food in the cafeteria as well as stopping the sale of pop.

i think the problem is the lack of exercise

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maybe our kids should do it twice a day....

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#94 Necrifer
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i think the problem is the lack of exercise

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maybe our kids should do it twice a day....

surrealnumber5

Fifteen minutes of exercise a day will keep most people healthy. It's that easy.

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] :lol: If that isn't the silliest slippery slope arguments I've ever heard, I don't know what is. God forbid the school stops providing chocolate milk in it's own cafeteria. If your kids want it, they should bring it from home.majoras_wrath
but schools are starting to outlaw meals from home...

Then thats not ok. But this is not one of those cases, and I am amused at the over the top "WE'RE LOSING OUR LIBERTY!!!!!" reactions to something like this.

The point is more that it's not the government's business to get involved in what people eat.
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#96 LJS9502_basic
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From my understanding, dairy and sugar in general isn't the healthiest thing for you. I'm all for trying to educate kids about the benefits of healthy eating, but if this makes them revert from chocolate milk to a can of pop then whats the point?

If schools are so concerned about junk food intake, they should educate children on the matter... isn't that what schools are for?

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I'd actually argue that they do that with health class and it isn't currently making a difference (If it was obesity might not be a problem currently). Perhaps if they added extra emphasis on it, it could help or figure out a new way of teaching it so it not only sinks in, but kids truly understand the reasons behind it. I honestly think education could be sped up if we taught kids why they are doing these things rather than expecting them to figure it out later. I'm looking at you math class.

Then do something about exercise and not worry about a pint of chocolate milk once a day.....
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Then do something about exercise and not worry about a pint of chocolate milk once a day.....

LJS9502_basic

I didn't even get pints in my school...we got a cup and had to pay extra to get any more.

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#98 qead
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="qead"]

From my understanding, dairy and sugar in general isn't the healthiest thing for you. I'm all for trying to educate kids about the benefits of healthy eating, but if this makes them revert from chocolate milk to a can of pop then whats the point?

If schools are so concerned about junk food intake, they should educate children on the matter... isn't that what schools are for?

LJS9502_basic

I'd actually argue that they do that with health class and it isn't currently making a difference (If it was obesity might not be a problem currently). Perhaps if they added extra emphasis on it, it could help or figure out a new way of teaching it so it not only sinks in, but kids truly understand the reasons behind it. I honestly think education could be sped up if we taught kids why they are doing these things rather than expecting them to figure it out later. I'm looking at you math class.

Then do something about exercise and not worry about a pint of chocolate milk once a day.....

But wouldn't that be 'forcing' kids to exercise? Why can't a healthy diet and exercise be promoted equally?

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] but schools are starting to outlaw meals from home...

Then thats not ok. But this is not one of those cases, and I am amused at the over the top "WE'RE LOSING OUR LIBERTY!!!!!" reactions to something like this.

The point is more that it's not the government's business to get involved in what people eat.

true but they don't have to make every option available at the school do they?
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#100 Necrifer
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But wouldn't that be 'forcing' kids to exercise? Why can't a healthy diet and exercise be promoted equally?

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There's already forced exercise.