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#101 CoolSkAGuy
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One thing I miss about high school is the chocolate milk :P. I drank white anyways.... isn't fat free anyways? I remember it being fat free where I was at... I could be wrong though.
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[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] Then thats not ok. But this is not one of those cases, and I am amused at the over the top "WE'RE LOSING OUR LIBERTY!!!!!" reactions to something like this.

The point is more that it's not the government's business to get involved in what people eat.

true but they don't have to make every option available at the school do they?

Some kids don't drink regular milk. Milk is necessary in the diet. I'd rather they drank a pint of chocolate than none at all....
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#103 qead
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[QUOTE="qead"]

But wouldn't that be 'forcing' kids to exercise? Why can't a healthy diet and exercise be promoted equally?

Necrifer

There's already forced exercise.

That's my point, why can't kids have both? It's not like having a gym period once or twice a week is going to offset a regular unhealthy diet, both are needed for a healthy lifestyle

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#104 binpink
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I'm fine with it. I'm not sure what's worse. The fact that flavored milk is the norm in schools, or the fact that parents whine about their children no longer getting it like it's the end of the world. So many parents say it's up to them to keep their child healthy, no one should tell them how to do it. But they're not keeping their child healthy. If you can't support ONE less unhealthy item in your child's diet, there's an issue.

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#105 LJS9502_basic
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I'm fine with it. I'm not sure what's worse. The fact that flavored milk is the norm in schools, or the fact that parents whine about their children no longer getting it like it's the end of the world. So many parents say it's up to them to keep their child healthy, no one should tell them how to do it. But they're not keeping their child healthy. If you can't support ONE less unhealthy item in your child's diet, there's an issue.

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I'm not comfortable with government making all our decisions........
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#106 ImaPirate0202
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Educating children on a healthy diet and letting them decide what to eat seems like the most logical option to me.

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#107 binpink
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I'm not comfortable with government making all our decisions........LJS9502_basic

They aren't telling you you can't drink chocolate milk in your home. Seems like they're trying to set a healthy standard for schools.

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#108 CoolSkAGuy
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I'm fine with it. I'm not sure what's worse. The fact that flavored milk is the norm in schools, or the fact that parents whine about their children no longer getting it like it's the end of the world. So many parents say it's up to them to keep their child healthy, no one should tell them how to do it. But they're not keeping their child healthy. If you can't support ONE less unhealthy item in your child's diet, there's an issue.

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Because chocolate milk is freaking great and a great way for kids to get their calcium. School white milk stinks.
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I'm probably going to ruffle a few feathers but....I don't think there should be public school lunches. Why should you let big brother do the parents job? Is feeding kids the governments job?
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#110 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I'm not comfortable with government making all our decisions........binpink

They aren't telling you you can't drink chocolate milk in your home. Seems like they're trying to set a healthy standard for schools.

Then this quote might interest you..... "If chocolate milk is the only milk children drink, we want to be able to offer it because of the nutrition it holds ... It takes a variety of foods to get that same nutrition," said nutrition specialist Debbi Beauvais. "Research shows when chocolate milk is removed from schools, one-third of the children no longer drank milk. They don't come back and drink its white counterpart." And last I checked...what one chooses to eat/drink for lunch is still one's own choice.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]

Some kids don't drink regular milk. Milk is necessary in the diet. I'd rather they drank a pint of chocolate than none at all....

That's actually a very common misconception according to the natural path doctor my mother saw
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#112 Necrifer
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I'm probably going to ruffle a few feathers but....I don't think there should be public school lunches. Why should you let big brother do the parents job? Is feeding kids the governments job?

DroidPhysX

It's how schools make extra money.

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#113 ImaPirate0202
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[QUOTE="binpink"]

I'm fine with it. I'm not sure what's worse. The fact that flavored milk is the norm in schools, or the fact that parents whine about their children no longer getting it like it's the end of the world. So many parents say it's up to them to keep their child healthy, no one should tell them how to do it. But they're not keeping their child healthy. If you can't support ONE less unhealthy item in your child's diet, there's an issue.

CoolSkAGuy

Because chocolate milk is freaking great and a great way for kids to get their calcium. School white milk stinks.

Regular milk used to make me gag when I was a kid. I always drank chocolate milk not just because I preferred it, but because it was better than getting no calcium in my diet at all.

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#114 LJS9502_basic
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I'm probably going to ruffle a few feathers but....I don't think there should be public school lunches. Why should you let big brother do the parents job? Is feeding kids the governments job?DroidPhysX
They have found in poor districts the kids skip meals....so the school provides one...sometimes two meals. Andif the child brings lunch from home....the milk still has to be provided at the school. Or should kids bring pop from home?

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#115 Allicrombie
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not a huge chocolate milk fan anyway.
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#116 LJS9502_basic
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That's actually a very common misconception according to the natural path doctor my mother saw qead
He was wrong. I know several people...some adults that won't drink regular milk but WILL drink chocolate. But I'll repost the quote......l "If chocolate milk is the only milk children drink, we want to be able to offer it because of the nutrition it holds ... It takes a variety of foods to get that same nutrition," said nutrition specialist Debbi Beauvais. "Research shows when chocolate milk is removed from schools, one-third of the children no longer drank milk. They don't come back and drink its white counterpart."

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#117 branketra
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I'm probably going to ruffle a few feathers but....I don't think there should be public school lunches. Why should you let big brother do the parents job? Is feeding kids the governments job?DroidPhysX
It isn't free and food stamps (government-paid lunch) are only available to families with low income. But no, it's not the governments job.
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#118 CoolSkAGuy
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Man they should change the food they served rather than worrying about Chocolate milk. The food they served at my school was horribly bad for you. Or at least it looked like it.
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#119 LJS9502_basic
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Man they should change the food they served rather than worrying about Chocolate milk. The food they served at my school was horribly bad for you. Or at least it looked like it.CoolSkAGuy
As I recall....tasted bad as well.:P
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#120 binpink
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Then this quote might interest you..... "If chocolate milk is the only milk children drink, we want to be able to offer it because of the nutrition it holds ... It takes a variety of foods to get that same nutrition," said nutrition specialist Debbi Beauvais. "Research shows when chocolate milk is removed from schools, one-third of the children no longer drank milk. They don't come back and drink its white counterpart." And last I checked...what one chooses to eat/drink for lunch is still one's own choice.LJS9502_basic

If a parent refuses to give their child any milk at home, that's their problem. But otherwise of course children prefer chocolate if it's all they've been given at school and home. If the healthier standard had been set from day one and chocolate milk was never a choice, they'd like the taste of white milk just fine (most kids, some hate all milk obviously). I don't see why children need all these opportunities to make unhealthy choices. I just don't think that's a priority in life. Teach them about healthier options and actually feed them healthier options from the time they're very young and you won't have to fight them about it later.

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#121 Oleg_Huzwog
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Since when is chocolate milk unhealthy? There's a difference between "unhealthy" and "still healthy, just not quite as healthy as the other stuff, but that's the trade off for making it taste awesome".

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#122 Omni-Slash
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:lol: If that isn't the silliest slippery slope arguments I've ever heard, I don't know what is. God forbid the school stops providing chocolate milk in it's own cafeteria. If your kids want it, they should bring it from home.majoras_wrath
exaclty..soon it will be that you can;t bring lunches from home because other kids will feel bad that your kid gets this and other's don't....or you're using white bread that's unhealthy compaired to wheat....the thing is..the slippery slope argument is only obsurd when it's used against things you agree with....more times than not govt ends up taking more and more liberties...is the earth going to come to an end because kids can't get chocolate milk in school?..absolutely not...but it never ends there..next week tehre will be some other evil that our "representatives" have to save us from....
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#123 Necrifer
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Since when is chocolate milk unhealthy? There's a difference between "unhealthy" and "still healthy, just not quite as healthy as the other stuff, but that's the trade off for making it taste awesome".

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I like awesome milk.

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#124 binpink
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Regular milk used to make me gag when I was a kid. I always drank chocolate milk not just because I preferred it, but because it was better than getting no calcium in my diet at all.

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Did you try any alternatives to dairy milk?

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#125 EasyStreet
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I don't see why there is even any need to get rid of healthy food like this some people have too much time on their hand.

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#126 Omni-Slash
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for the record...I never even liked chocolate milk in school....but I just hate when people can't keep their nose out of other's business....
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#127 comp_atkins
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] The point is more that it's not the government's business to get involved in what people eat.

true but they don't have to make every option available at the school do they?

Some kids don't drink regular milk. Milk is necessary in the diet. I'd rather they drank a pint of chocolate than none at all....

vegetables are necessary in the diet, should they be covered in sugar to get kids to eat them?
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for the record...I never even liked chocolate milk in school....but I just hate when people can't keep their nose out of other's business....Omni-Slash
True. I don't drink chocolate milk at all. However, J ONLY will drink chocolate milk. I'd rather that was an option than no milk at all. And I don't like people involved in things that don't concern them myself.
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#129 branketra
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^ I did. Tasty.
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#130 ImaPirate0202
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[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]

Regular milk used to make me gag when I was a kid. I always drank chocolate milk not just because I preferred it, but because it was better than getting no calcium in my diet at all.

binpink

Did you try any alternatives to dairy milk?

If I remember correctly the school I went to only offered 2% and chocolate. I rarely packed lunches from home.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"] true but they don't have to make every option available at the school do they?comp_atkins
Some kids don't drink regular milk. Milk is necessary in the diet. I'd rather they drank a pint of chocolate than none at all....

vegetables are necessary in the diet, should they be covered in sugar to get kids to eat them?

Sugar is only a problem if it's a major component of a diet and if there is little or no exercise. Not a big deal if it's a pint of a milk five times a week followed by recess and running around.;)
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vegetables are necessary in the diet, should they be covered in sugar to get kids to eat them?comp_atkins
no..but some put spices and butter on them....I'm not looking to end that either...
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[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]

Regular milk used to make me gag when I was a kid. I always drank chocolate milk not just because I preferred it, but because it was better than getting no calcium in my diet at all.

binpink

Did you try any alternatives to dairy milk?

He said when he was a kid. Kids don't buy their own groceries. They eat/drink whatever their parents bring home. How many kids in the world are going to say "mom, could I try some soy milk as an alternative means of getting the vitamins and minerals I need to grow up big and strong"?

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#134 needled24-7
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this is ridiculous, it's not the food that is making the kids fat, it's the lack of exercise.

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#135 CoolSkAGuy
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[QUOTE="CoolSkAGuy"]Man they should change the food they served rather than worrying about Chocolate milk. The food they served at my school was horribly bad for you. Or at least it looked like it.LJS9502_basic
As I recall....tasted bad as well.:P

I remember I used to starve and skip lunch because it was so bad. It wasn't until about the 12th grade where my school started serving this fruit salad with cottage cheese and saltine crackers and smucker PB&Js that I actually started eating that cruddy food.
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#136 Omni-Slash
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BTW I made a mistake..a school milk carton is 1/2 pint of milk....or 8 ounces.....
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[QUOTE="comp_atkins"] vegetables are necessary in the diet, should they be covered in sugar to get kids to eat them?Omni-Slash
no..but some put spices and butter on them....I'm not looking to end that either...

You don't even need butter, about baking and grilling food, it does not take a lot of time and food taste really good.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"] true but they don't have to make every option available at the school do they?comp_atkins
Some kids don't drink regular milk. Milk is necessary in the diet. I'd rather they drank a pint of chocolate than none at all....

vegetables are necessary in the diet, should they be covered in sugar to get kids to eat them?

Chocolate milk doesn't have that much more sugar than regular.
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BTW I made a mistake..a school milk carton is 1/2 pint of milk....or 8 ounces.....Omni-Slash
So that comes out to 2 1-2 pints a week....I can see where it's the major problem. Not the junk food kids eat...not sitting in front of a TV or computer all night. The chocolate milk. Teh evil....
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We never had chocolate milk at school. Only regular milk... and I'm not even sure schools have that anymore (in the UK).SolidSnake35
This and I used to just read through milk break because I don't like the stuff :P
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#141 comp_atkins
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this is ridiculous, it's not the food that is making the kids fat, it's the lack of exercise.

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it's likely both.
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]We never had chocolate milk at school. Only regular milk... and I'm not even sure schools have that anymore (in the UK).tofu-lion91
This and I used to just read through milk break because I don't like the stuff :P

Thats because you didn't have chocolate milk :P
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#143 binpink
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He said when he was a kid. Kids don't buy their own groceries. They eat/drink whatever their parents bring home. How many kids in the world are going to say "mom, could I try some soy milk as an alternative means of getting the vitamins and minerals I need to grow up big and strong"?

Oleg_Huzwog

I was thinking if his parents noticed that he didn't like white milk maybe they'd have him try something else. Some parents do notice things like that.

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#144 BMD004
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Chocolate milk isn't really bad for you. Sure, it has some sugar, but sugar in moderation is perfectly fine. In fact, the best drink after exercise is actually found to be.... chocolate milk!

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#145 Necrifer
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Chocolate milk isn't really bad for you. Sure, it has some sugar, but sugar in moderation is perfectly fine. In fact, the best drink after exercise is actually found to be.... chocolate milk!

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Preposterous!

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]We never had chocolate milk at school. Only regular milk... and I'm not even sure schools have that anymore (in the UK).tofu-lion91
This and I used to just read through milk break because I don't like the stuff :P

seriously question though...is England like France in the milk you drink comes from unrefridgerated boxes on a store shelf?.....just curious....
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[QUOTE="qead"] That's actually a very common misconception according to the natural path doctor my mother saw LJS9502_basic

He was wrong. I know several people...some adults that won't drink regular milk but WILL drink chocolate. But I'll repost the quote......l "If chocolate milk is the only milk children drink, we want to be able to offer it because of the nutrition it holds ... It takes a variety of foods to get that same nutrition," said nutrition specialist Debbi Beauvais. "Research shows when chocolate milk is removed from schools, one-third of the children no longer drank milk. They don't come back and drink its white counterpart."

I know from personal experience that milk consumption was responsible for lowering my immune system, i don't doubt that added vitamins and calcium can be beneficial to the body, but come on... the cows are routinely injected with growth hormones, and most are put on a diet of corn (which opens a whole other nasty can of worms), not to mention the high fat content of the drink. http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/ - this article even finds some links between milk consumption and the weakening of bones! Calcium and vitamins can be supplemented quite easily (and cost effectively). Is it better then pepsi? yes. But suggesting that regular consumption of milk is necessary or beneficial to health is silly
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#148 BMD004
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="qead"] That's actually a very common misconception according to the natural path doctor my mother saw qead

He was wrong. I know several people...some adults that won't drink regular milk but WILL drink chocolate. But I'll repost the quote......l "If chocolate milk is the only milk children drink, we want to be able to offer it because of the nutrition it holds ... It takes a variety of foods to get that same nutrition," said nutrition specialist Debbi Beauvais. "Research shows when chocolate milk is removed from schools, one-third of the children no longer drank milk. They don't come back and drink its white counterpart."

I know from personal experience that milk consumption was responsible for lowering my immune system, i don't doubt that added vitamins and calcium can be beneficial to the body, but come on... the cows are routinely injected with growth hormones, and most are put on a diet of corn (which opens a whole other nasty can of worms), not to mention the high fat content of the drink. http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/ - this article even finds some links between milk consumption and the weakening of bones! Calcium and vitamins can be supplemented quite easily (and cost effectively). Is it better then pepsi? yes. But suggesting that regular consumption of milk is necessary or beneficial to health is silly

99% of the milk I buy specifically says on it something like "cows not injected with rBST or growth hormone". Plus, if you are worried about the high fat content, drink 1 or 2%.

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#149 EasyStreet
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[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]We never had chocolate milk at school. Only regular milk... and I'm not even sure schools have that anymore (in the UK).Omni-Slash
This and I used to just read through milk break because I don't like the stuff :P

seriously question though...is England like France in the milk you drink comes from unrefridgerated boxes on a store shelf?.....just curious....

I know they have their booze which is not pasteurized so maybe milk is the same way can't say for sure since I don't drink milk and was not paying attention how they stored the milk.
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I'm for this, they should then ban everything unhealthy in the US and infact ban all added ingredients to foods, we should just be eating raw lettuce with raw onions and drinking water because that's the healthy way. Forget taste man, who cares? It's all about forcing people to be healthy which is a good thing! Right??