^100% for me. I'm not about to drink milk from mutated cows.
@BMD
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Eh, school policy... they make the rules. It's not like they are limiting your freedom to bring chocolate milk to school. If they want to change what's on the menu, they can. If I ran a school, the only thing I would offer is water, low fat milk and very basic but healthy foods.
it is all about the health care costs, think about the healthcare costs.I'm for this, they should then ban everything unhealthy in the US and infact ban all added ingredients to foods, we should just be eating raw lettuce with raw onions and drinking water because that's the healthy way. Forget taste man, who cares? It's all about forcing people to be healthy which is a good thing! Right??
Espada12
why should my tax dollars be going to subsidize some fat kid's sugar habit? i'd much rather be paying for bombs and tax cuts for the rich. you know, important stuff.
I know from personal experience that milk consumption was responsible for lowering my immune system, i don't doubt that added vitamins and calcium can be beneficial to the body, but come on... the cows are routinely injected with growth hormones, and most are put on a diet of corn (which opens a whole other nasty can of worms), not to mention the high fat content of the drink. http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/ - this article even finds some links between milk consumption and the weakening of bones! Calcium and vitamins can be supplemented quite easily (and cost effectively). Is it better then pepsi? yes. But suggesting that regular consumption of milk is necessary or beneficial to health is silly 99% of the milk I buy specifically says on it something like "cows not injected with rBST or growth hormone". Plus, if you are worried about the high fat content, drink 1 or 2%. It's a step in the right direction at least, but what about the other problems i listed? I have trouble trusting an industry that promoted a product pumped with antibiotics and growth hormones as healthy...[QUOTE="qead"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] He was wrong. I know several people...some adults that won't drink regular milk but WILL drink chocolate. But I'll repost the quote......l "If chocolate milk is the only milk children drink, we want to be able to offer it because of the nutrition it holds ... It takes a variety of foods to get that same nutrition," said nutrition specialist Debbi Beauvais. "Research shows when chocolate milk is removed from schools, one-third of the children no longer drank milk. They don't come back and drink its white counterpart."
BMD004
dont forget subsidies for those nice oil companies! You know, the ones who had record breaking profits last year!why should my tax dollars be going to subsidize some fat kid's sugar habit? i'd much rather be paying for bombs and tax cuts for the rich. you know, important stuff.
comp_atkins
[QUOTE="BMD004"]99% of the milk I buy specifically says on it something like "cows not injected with rBST or growth hormone". Plus, if you are worried about the high fat content, drink 1 or 2%. It's a step in the right direction at least, but what about the other problems i listed? I have trouble trusting an industry that promoted a product pumped with antibiotics and growth hormones as healthy...The FDA still says there is no difference between cows injected with growth hormone and those which weren't. However, they put that "cows not treated with growth hormone" thing on their labels to ease people's minds about it because some people won't drink milk from growth hormone-treated cows.[QUOTE="qead"] I know from personal experience that milk consumption was responsible for lowering my immune system, i don't doubt that added vitamins and calcium can be beneficial to the body, but come on... the cows are routinely injected with growth hormones, and most are put on a diet of corn (which opens a whole other nasty can of worms), not to mention the high fat content of the drink. http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/ - this article even finds some links between milk consumption and the weakening of bones! Calcium and vitamins can be supplemented quite easily (and cost effectively). Is it better then pepsi? yes. But suggesting that regular consumption of milk is necessary or beneficial to health is silly qead
[QUOTE="qead"][QUOTE="BMD004"]99% of the milk I buy specifically says on it something like "cows not injected with rBST or growth hormone". Plus, if you are worried about the high fat content, drink 1 or 2%.It's a step in the right direction at least, but what about the other problems i listed? I have trouble trusting an industry that promoted a product pumped with antibiotics and growth hormones as healthy...The FDA still says there is no difference between cows injected with growth hormone and those which weren't. However, they put that "cows not treated with growth hormone" thing on their labels to ease people's minds about it because some people won't drink milk from growth hormone-treated cows.The FDA is not to be trusted.BMD004
First they take chocolate milk, then they take strawberry, then before you know it we are enslaved by the communists!
It might not be the best for kids, but its good for anyone who does any sort of aerobic exercising. The sugar brings up your insulin levels which allows your body to go into an anabolic state which gets nutrients to your glyogen stores. For growing kids who are always running around, I can't see this being bad.
inwayafterpeoplesayobesity
I have never seen strawberry milk served in school.First they take chocolate milk, then they take strawberry, then before you know it we are enslaved by the communists!
toast_burner
$20 says if an when they do replace school foods with something somewhat healthy, the very same people complaining here will complain dat da gubmint is taking away their kids fried tater tots and salty salisbury steakSchools will ban chocolate milk, but they still serve them cafeteria food full of chemicals and preservatives. I'm glad to see they have their priorities straight.
BMD004
The FDA still says there is no difference between cows injected with growth hormone and those which weren't. However, they put that "cows not treated with growth hormone" thing on their labels to ease people's minds about it because some people won't drink milk from growth hormone-treated cows.The FDA is not to be trusted. But a conspiracy nut is?[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="qead"] It's a step in the right direction at least, but what about the other problems i listed? I have trouble trusting an industry that promoted a product pumped with antibiotics and growth hormones as healthy...ColonelVodka
[QUOTE="ColonelVodka"]The FDA is not to be trusted. But a conspiracy nut is? Not at all. :|[QUOTE="BMD004"]The FDA still says there is no difference between cows injected with growth hormone and those which weren't. However, they put that "cows not treated with growth hormone" thing on their labels to ease people's minds about it because some people won't drink milk from growth hormone-treated cows.Wolls
Some kids will only drink chocolate milk.....so at least they are getting milk. Really tired of people getting involved in others lives....LJS9502_basicAmen. The nanny state is causing parents everywhere to lose responsibility for the health of their own children...
I don't see the issue - these parents don't want their local school to serve chocolate milk to their children. Where is the controversy? -Sun_Tzu-
They also don't want the school to serve chocolate milk to all the other kids.
[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]I don't see the issue - these parents don't want their local school to serve chocolate milk to their children. Where is the controversy? Oleg_Huzwog
They also don't want the school to serve chocolate milk to all the other kids.
And if the parents of these other kids are upset about this they can voice those concerns at the next PTO meeting. I really don't see the big deal - all this is is a local PTO making decisions about school lunch.I don't see the issue - these parents don't want their local school to serve chocolate milk to their children. Where is the controversy? -Sun_Tzu-
It's not controversial, it's just plain stupid. I understand her position but removing chocolate milk won't solve the problem. If you want to improve the nutrition your kids receive, they ought to be taught what foods are healthy and what foods aren't, or better yet, teach them how to read a nutrition label to determine if it is healthy. I would say parents should do this but somewhere in my head, I have a feeling that no one would know this. If the local school board is determined to help, they should teach, not get rid of chocolate milk. It's just trivial. In fact, it's trivial to why the topic is "Humanity Official Stinks." It's just a stupid thing.
And besides, chocolate milk is actually healthy for an athletic person.
[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]I don't see the issue - these parents don't want their local school to serve chocolate milk to their children. Where is the controversy? leviathan91
It's not controversial, it's just plain stupid. I understand her position but removing chocolate milk won't solve the problem. If you want to improve the nutrition your kids receive, they ought to be taught what foods are healthy and what foods aren't, or better yet, teach them how to read a nutrition label to determine if it is healthy. I would say parents should do this but somewhere in my head, I have a feeling that no one would know this. If the local school board is determined to help, they should teach, not get rid of chocolate milk. It's just trivial. In fact, it's trivial to why the topic is "Humanity Official Stinks." It's just a stupid thing.
And besides, chocolate milk is actually healthy for an athletic person.
I think it's silly to stop serving chocolate milk too, but people in this thread are acting like this is somehow an existential threat to freedom and liberty.It's not controversial, it's just plain stupid. I understand her position but removing chocolate milk won't solve the problem. If you want to improve the nutrition your kids receive, they ought to be taught what foods are healthy and what foods aren't, or better yet, teach them how to read a nutrition label to determine if it is healthy. I would say parents should do this but somewhere in my head, I have a feeling that no one would know this. If the local school board is determined to help, they should teach, not get rid of chocolate milk. It's just trivial. In fact, it's trivial to why the topic is "Humanity Official Stinks." It's just a stupid thing.
And besides, chocolate milk is actually healthy for an athletic person.
leviathan91
Not that kids these days are athletic. :P
Anyway, I agree. Something I never learned about in Elementary school was one of the simplest and most important things one could know: how to read a nutrition label. They never even touched the subject, yet all around the school you could see banners of "Eat healthy blah blah", "Nutrition blah blah", "Blah blah blah...blah blah". For as high of a priority they made healthy eating out to be, they never once taught us how to recognize what's healthy and what's not other than "Oh, well, vegetables." Teaching kids how to read a nutrition label should have been very important. Sure, it would have taken valuable time out of the day, but it's better than what they had instead: useless, random assemblies. And this assembly about nutrition labels would have taken half the time of a normal assembly.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"]they'll survive just fine without it.scorch-62And they will continue to take away rights to personal freedom....but hey....we'll survive just fine without it....right? And the award for grossest overstatement goes to. . .
The little things add up...
And the award for grossest overstatement goes to. . .[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] And they will continue to take away rights to personal freedom....but hey....we'll survive just fine without it....right?StealthMonkey4
The little things add up...
Oh, god forbid we make kids drink something healthier than chocolate milk. Next thing you know, it will be total anarchy!But a conspiracy nut is? Not at all. :|[QUOTE="Wolls"][QUOTE="ColonelVodka"]
The FDA is not to be trusted.
ColonelVodka
I think anyone who is seriously interested in learning about what they're eating and where it comes from has to eventually do some research on the FDA. Seems like they approve all kinds of potentially/debatably unsafe food and products... and also approve all kinds of potentially/debatably unsafe medications we can take to fix the symptoms those food and products caused.
[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] And the award for grossest overstatement goes to. . .scorch-62
The little things add up...
Oh, god forbid we make kids drink something healthier than chocolate milk. Next thing you know, it will be total anarchy!It serves absolutely no purpose... it would actually make kids drink less milk and would cause more harm than good. A little extra sugar in chocolate milk isn't what causes obesity in children... Kids should be able to make an appropriate decision for themselves.
[QUOTE="leviathan91"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]I don't see the issue - these parents don't want their local school to serve chocolate milk to their children. Where is the controversy? -Sun_Tzu-
It's not controversial, it's just plain stupid. I understand her position but removing chocolate milk won't solve the problem. If you want to improve the nutrition your kids receive, they ought to be taught what foods are healthy and what foods aren't, or better yet, teach them how to read a nutrition label to determine if it is healthy. I would say parents should do this but somewhere in my head, I have a feeling that no one would know this. If the local school board is determined to help, they should teach, not get rid of chocolate milk. It's just trivial. In fact, it's trivial to why the topic is "Humanity Official Stinks." It's just a stupid thing.
And besides, chocolate milk is actually healthy for an athletic person.
I think it's silly to stop serving chocolate milk too, but people in this thread are acting like this is somehow an existential threat to freedom and liberty.People should be more concerned about free speech zones, religious persecution, media control, or whatever real threat the government (or the people) impose on anyone. This is just trivial garbage because some people can't use their common sense. But that's the price for freedom and liberty. Anyone, no matter how sane they are, can spout whatever nonsense they want and that's why America is the greatest.
the food at most cafeterias suck anyway..so lets get rid of one of teh few enjoyable options the kids have.....maybe if they worried about Gym class being taken away and recess being done away with instead of the chocolate milk....you kids wouldn;t be a buch of fat asses......Omni-SlashSo true man.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Some kids will only drink chocolate milk.....so at least they are getting milk. Really tired of people getting involved in others lives....battlefront23Amen. The nanny state is causing parents everywhere to lose responsibility for the health of their own children... They already lost it that is why we have so many obese children around.
[QUOTE="leviathan91"]
It's not controversial, it's just plain stupid. I understand her position but removing chocolate milk won't solve the problem. If you want to improve the nutrition your kids receive, they ought to be taught what foods are healthy and what foods aren't, or better yet, teach them how to read a nutrition label to determine if it is healthy. I would say parents should do this but somewhere in my head, I have a feeling that no one would know this. If the local school board is determined to help, they should teach, not get rid of chocolate milk. It's just trivial. In fact, it's trivial to why the topic is "Humanity Official Stinks." It's just a stupid thing.
And besides, chocolate milk is actually healthy for an athletic person.
Necrifer
Not that kids these days are athletic. :P
Anyway, I agree. Something I never learned about in Elementary school was one of the simplest and most important things one could know: how to read a nutrition label. They never even touched the subject, yet all around the school you could see banners of "Eat healthy blah blah", "Nutrition blah blah", "Blah blah blah...blah blah". For as high of a priority they made healthy eating out to be, they never once taught us how to recognize what's healthy and what's not other than "Oh, well, vegetables." Teaching kids how to read a nutrition label should have been very important. Sure, it would have taken valuable time out of the day, but it's better than what they had instead: useless, random assemblies. And this assembly about nutrition labels would have taken half the time of a normal assembly.
Exactly. Learning about your nutrition wouldn't take forever. It's actually simple to read and understand what you need to eat. Most importantly, it's just learning self-responsibility and knowing what your body can handle such as calories or sodium.
Not at all. :|[QUOTE="ColonelVodka"]
[QUOTE="Wolls"] But a conspiracy nut is?binpink
I think anyone who is seriously interested in learning about what they're eating and where it comes from has to eventually do some research on the FDA. Seems like they approve all kinds of potentially/debatably unsafe food and products... and also approve all kinds of potentially/debatably unsafe medications we can take to fix the symptoms those food and products caused.
Wow really? That kinda sucks for your own peace of mind doesn't it :?
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