I Just dont get it How could you not believe in God

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="tigertechie"]Mate, I believe in God. How can you not. He lovingly created this world perfectly before humans wrecked it.wickedwaffle

[QUOTE="Meinhard1"]Since TC is a Christian seeing the world as a work of God comes natural, it's easy to see Him in trees, birds, the wind - everything. So from his pov it is understandable that he would ask such a question. But atheists and agnostics - I'm curious how many people who don't believe in God feel like they "chose" not to believe? I'm pretty sure most atheists and agnostics couldn't believe if they wanted to unless they were presented with a good reason, for TC nature is reason enough but this doesn't work many of us.stepnkev

I can see what you're saying. I used to be Agnostic and have been given many reasons to believe since then. I have been a Christian now for 20 years. I chose to believe in God due to the many different experiences I have had in my life, which for me, is proof that God exists. However, this isn't something I can pull out of my back pocket and prove to anyone else.

Everything is just in perfect balance.The birds singing the wind trees the flowers the world is beautiful..This all cant just happen by chance..I mean really come on just because you dont see it doesnt mean its not there.Everybody has a mind a brain a soul a voice that tells them right or wrong god gave everybody free will.And besides ive rather believe in something than not beieving in anything at all.Some atheists act like christians fear death and worry about it..We dont fear it we welcome it when our time comes to be with our family.And you guys think christians follow the rules without disobeying we dont god forgives us.I just dont get how you guys dont believe in God

wickedwaffle

how old r u[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="wickedwaffle"]

LOL doging my true question guys do you think that this world was created by chance or some god or some other being

wickedwaffle

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[QUOTE="Foxi911"]So if GOD was real who created him then? He just popped out of no where?...Thats another reason :). Just saying.Foxi911

LOL doging my true question guys do you think that this world was created by chance or some god or some other being

wickedwaffle

Science has yet to answer the ultimate question of how the universe was created, but all signs would seem to point to natural processes, given that that is how everything else (stars, planets, etc.) was created. That doesn't mean it was all "by chance", but it does mean that it was not due to intelligent intervention.

Perfect balance my ass. You know how messed up nature and humans can be? Why does a balanced, peace loving God allow poverty, natural disaster, famine, and disease?

[QUOTE="Solid-CELL"]Can god actually believe that his creation, humans, can all follow one faith and be at peace? If that's what he expected, then thats a rather rubish way of running the universe..wickedwaffle

LOL doging my true question guys do you think that this world was created by chance or some god or some other being

wickedwaffle

We don't know, or claim to know the unknown. Unlike you, apparently.

Their is no real physical proof to make me believe. I would need some kind of obvious sign to become a believer. Until that happens I will abstain from religion.

I know what you mean. I don't claim to know better than Athiests or agnostics, but I do not understand how one could think everything that occurs in our world to be merely chance. Love, at least for me, validates the existence of a god in my mind.

battlefront23

Failed argument. The world is ugly for some people, or in some other alien's standard. And why does everyone has to believe in God? Some people believe, some people don't. Such simple concept and yet, so few people can understand it.magicalclick

[QUOTE="Foxi911"][QUOTE="wickedwaffle"]just answer my question do you think tahat this world was an acident and if it was how the hell do we have free will

wickedwaffle

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

I know what you mean. I don't claim to know better than Athiests or agnostics, but I do not understand how one could think everything that occurs in our world to be merely chance. Love, at least for me, validates the existence of a god in my mind.

clayron

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

I know what you mean. I don't claim to know better than Athiests or agnostics, but I do not understand how one could think everything that occurs in our world to be merely chance. Love, at least for me, validates the existence of a god in my mind.

clayron

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

The argument I hear the most against God is "There's no empirical evidence" :/

Without Faith there would be no Religion.

Darth-Caedus

Their is no real physical proof to make me believe. I would need some kind of obvious sign to become a believer. Until that happens I will abstain from religion.

Dawq902

not to be rude or anything but i think all of u guys are like 15-20 just bashing about the worlds crappy places but yet to realize about the worlds beautiful places and fail to see that that's not god.Mn created all those poor places in Africa not Godwickedwaffle

not to be rude or anything but i think all of u guys are like 15-20 just bashing about the worlds crappy places but yet to realize about the worlds beautiful places and fail to see that that's not god.Mn created all those poor places in Africa not Godwickedwaffle

not to be rude or anything but i think all of u guys are like 15-20 just bashing about the worlds crappy places but yet to realize about the worlds beautiful places and fail to see that that's not god.Mn created all those poor places in Africa not Godwickedwaffle

If God created everything, then why is like 99.99999999999% of the universe completely inhospitable?

You can't just look at the stuff that you subjectively evaluate as beautiful and ignore the rest.

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

The argument I hear the most against God is "There's no empirical evidence" :/

Without Faith there would be no Religion.

Snipes_2

[QUOTE="wickedwaffle"]not to be rude or anything but i think all of u guys are like 15-20 just bashing about the worlds crappy places but yet to realize about the worlds beautiful places and fail to see that that's not god.Mn created all those poor places in Africa not Godjalexbrown

LOL doging my true question guys do you think that this world was created by chance or some god or some other being

wickedwaffle

It's not necessarily "chance". Ask any evolutionist, and they do not call evolution "chance" or happening "by accident". Species evolve to adapt to their environment. As many evolutionists have pointed out, it is not an accident that we evolved legs. Legs have evolved on many different seperate occasions on different branches of the evolutionary tree. It was inevitable that some kind of life would arise on Earth, and that that life would evolve into some sort of complex beings. So, yes it is chance that we individually are here, but it is not just an accident that life in general, or that even complex or intelligent life in general, exists on Earth. If it weren't us, other creatures would have evolved into complex life, and likely into something intelligent like us. So, it's not necessarily an accident. I believe that this kind of thing has probably happened all over the universe. There are probably many different kinds of life off of our own planet, some of which is likely intelligent. So does that answer your question??

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[QUOTE="jalexbrown"] Do you ever stop to ponder why God would allow us to destroy his perfectly created world? Or why an all-knowing God would instruct Adam to not eat from the Tree of Wisdom, already knowing that he would eat from it? Or what ever happened to the REAL miracles, like Moses parting the seas to escape Egypt during the Exodus?jalexbrown

[QUOTE="tigertechie"]Mate, I believe in God. How can you not. He lovingly created this world perfectly before humans wrecked it.jalexbrown

not to be rude or anything but i think all of u guys are like 15-20 just bashing about the worlds crappy places but yet to realize about the worlds beautiful places and fail to see that that's not god.Mn created all those poor places in Africa not Godwickedwaffle

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="wickedwaffle"]not to be rude or anything but i think all of u guys are like 15-20 just bashing about the worlds crappy places but yet to realize about the worlds beautiful places and fail to see that that's not god.Mn created all those poor places in Africa not Godwickedwaffle

If God created everything, then why is like 99.99999999999% of the universe completely inhospitable?

You can't just look at the stuff that you subjectively evaluate as beautiful and ignore the rest.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="wickedwaffle"]not to be rude or anything but i think all of u guys are like 15-20 just bashing about the worlds crappy places but yet to realize about the worlds beautiful places and fail to see that that's not god.Mn created all those poor places in Africa not Godwickedwaffle

If God created everything, then why is like 99.99999999999% of the universe completely inhospitable?

You can't just look at the stuff that you subjectively evaluate as beautiful and ignore the rest.

Man made the universe inhospitable? Turn off CAPSLOCK and read what people actually write.

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="wickedwaffle"]not to be rude or anything but i think all of u guys are like 15-20 just bashing about the worlds crappy places but yet to realize about the worlds beautiful places and fail to see that that's not god.Mn created all those poor places in Africa not Godwickedwaffle

[This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]wickedwaffle

Try posting again, this time without the yelling.

[QUOTE="wickedwaffle"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

If God created everything, then why is like 99.99999999999% of the universe completely inhospitable?

You can't just look at the stuff that you subjectively evaluate as beautiful and ignore the rest.

ferret-gamer

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="tigertechie"]Mate, I believe in God. How can you not. He lovingly created this world perfectly before humans wrecked it.tigertechie

[QUOTE="wickedwaffle"][This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]GabuEx

Try posting again, this time without the yelling.

How does one yell when they write?

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="wickedwaffle"][This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]SgtKevali

Try posting again, this time without the yelling.

How does one yell when they write?

Words in all caps = yelling.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="wickedwaffle"] GOD GAVE EVERY LIVING PERSON FREE WILL .MAN HAS DONE THOSE THINGS NOT GOD GOD MAKES MIRACLES MAKES WAYS OUT OF NO WAYS

wickedwaffle

Why am I not surprised? He means do you believe that god can do anything, basically.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="wickedwaffle"] GOD GAVE EVERY LIVING PERSON FREE WILL .MAN HAS DONE THOSE THINGS NOT GOD GOD MAKES MIRACLES MAKES WAYS OUT OF NO WAYS

wickedwaffle

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="wickedwaffle"] GOD GAVE EVERY LIVING PERSON FREE WILL .MAN HAS DONE THOSE THINGS NOT GOD GOD MAKES MIRACLES MAKES WAYS OUT OF NO WAYS

wickedwaffle

[QUOTE="clayron"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

I know what you mean. I don't claim to know better than Athiests or agnostics, but I do not understand how one could think everything that occurs in our world to be merely chance. Love, at least for me, validates the existence of a god in my mind.

jalexbrown

[QUOTE="wickedwaffle"][This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]GabuEx

Try posting again, this time without the yelling.

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

Try posting again, this time without the yelling.

789shadow

How does one yell when they write?

Words in all caps = yelling.

Yelling is something outloud.

A perfect balance? Please watch the news. This world is full of chaos and anarchy caused solely by men.

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

How does one yell when they write?

SgtKevali

Words in all caps = yelling.

Yelling is something outloud.

Typing in all caps on the Internet is the equivalent of yelling at someone.

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

How does one yell when they write?

SgtKevali

Words in all caps = yelling.

Yelling is something outloud.