I Just dont get it How could you not believe in God

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[QUOTE="wickedwaffle"][This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]wickedwaffle

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b4 he moderated i said it was god who made this world.And his vision was for man to shape and create this world who he built

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[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="clayron"] I disagree with the love thing. As the bible puts it: God's love is amazingly unconditional, which is heavily argued. Human love is anything but, its based on a number of conditions and can end just as quickly as it begins. Its just a series of chemicals in the body that make humans feel a certain way (love) towards something else. Now bud, I believe in God, but I do not think love is an example he exist. I just believe he does, I can not explain it, but something is there that makes me believe.clayron

So you pick and choose what to believe?

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jalexbrown

u guys think the world has treated u bad i guess . And that u blame that on god. Everybody has started out beleving in God but im guessing the worlds treating you so bad that youve lost faith in god .Just my 2 centswickedwaffle

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[QUOTE="wickedwaffle"][This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]wickedwaffle

Try posting again, this time without the yelling.

You must be trying to get moderated.

LOL doging my true question guys do you think that this world was created by chance or some god or some other being

wickedwaffle

Anyway, TC, I don't think you're serious. It's hard to think you could be this void of logic or reason. The absurdities you have posted are just fascinating.

Everything is just in perfect balance.The birds singing the wind trees the flowers the world is beautiful..This all cant just happen by chance..I mean really come on just because you dont see it doesnt mean its not there.Everybody has a mind a brain a soul a voice that tells them right or wrong god gave everybody free will.And besides ive rather believe in something than not beieving in anything at all.Some atheists act like christians fear death and worry about it..We dont fear it we welcome it when our time comes to be with our family.And you guys think christians follow the rules without disobeying we dont god forgives us.I just dont get how you guys dont believe in God

wickedwaffle

Perfect balance my ass. You know how messed up nature and humans can be? Why does a balanced, peace loving God allow poverty, natural disaster, famine, and disease?SgtKevali

Why did a balanced, peace loving god create humans in the first place?

That's my main problem with believing in god.

Why create something that is just going to destroy Earth.

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="wickedwaffle"] lol moderated my post beacuse u couldnt answer it patheic

wickedwaffle

I got quite a good laugh out of this thread...XD

I find it crazy that you can believe in god. There is zero proof to show that god exists, and some books written by man are not very convincing.Id rather live my life on my terms. As for it being an accident, id say its more likely to believe that we just don't have the scientific knowledge yet to decipher why it all happened. In 6000 years the Bible and all other religions will still be the same (unless of course people finally abandon religion which is happening more and more as time passes), but our understanding of our universe will have grown immensely.

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Perfect balance my ass. You know how messed up nature and humans can be? Why does a balanced, peace loving God allow poverty, natural disaster, famine, and disease?Joshywaa

Why did a balanced, peace loving god create humans in the first place?

That's my main problem with believing in god.

Why create something that is just going to destroy Earth.

No, better question: why would he have given them free will?

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"][QUOTE="jalexbrown"] Satan tricked them (you say), yes, but God is all-knowing...which means God would have known that Satan was going to trick them, correct?jalexbrown

Religions basically create their own seperate logic.

[QUOTE="clayron"][QUOTE="jalexbrown"] Really? God's love is unconditional? Because it seems to me like putting someone in the agonizing fire of hell for eternity is a pretty cruel thing to do to people that you love. I mean, I could understand this argument if you were Jewish and didn't believe in eternal hell, but it doesn't work so well with Christians.SgtKevali

So you pick and choose what to believe?

'There's no way all of this can happen by chance.'

Tell that to the guy who pulled this off:

For me personally I never believed in god. I think my parents are Christians but they never attended church or had us pray before a meal or had Christian symbols around home. Basically there was nothing being forced on me or against me. The concept of religion wasn't a big deal. It wasn't until seeing other families that were more religious that I was more aware of people truly believing in god. Still any time there was prayer or something along those lines I just went through the motions of "play" instead of thinking that it was a very serious moment of showing belief. I got older and whatnot and hearing about religions and beliefs I came to my conclusion of "I'm kinda shocked that people are really this religious. It seems so out there and goofy". So here I am 20 years old and I feel that I will never be converted to any religion and will forever be an atheist who has no issue withother people being religious. On aside note Christianity kind of creeped me out as a child. Seeing Jesus on the cross and paintings of people loking miserable made me not want to visit churches and I remember I told my aunt to put down a picture of a "St. Something" because "that scary lady keeps looking at me while I'm trying to sleep" hahaNifty_Shark

This explains my point of view, pretty much.

I never believed in a god and my parents weren't that religious either.

There's so much order and balance in the universe that it's ridiculous to not believe in a creator IMO.CrocodileNuts

The universe sure doesn't appear orderly and balanced from where I'm standing.

There's so much order and balance in the universe that it's ridiculous to not believe in a creator IMO.CrocodileNuts

[QUOTE="CrocodileNuts"]There's so much order and balance in the universe that it's ridiculous to not believe in a creator IMO.789shadow

The universe sure doesn't appear orderly and balanced from where I'm standing.

"Stuff is complicated, must have been magic".

People don't get anywhere with such a small scope.

If God created everything, then why is like 99.99999999999% of the universe completely inhospitable?

GabuEx

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If God created everything, then why is like 99.99999999999% of the universe completely inhospitable?

jalexbrown

No, that's pretty accurate considering that 99.999999999999% of the universe is empty space. :P

ME THINKS GOD IS REAL AND ONLy HE IS PERFECT NOT THE WORLD NOT MAN NOT ANYTHING ONLY GOD ps go Jesus

sonichunter99

ME THINKS GOD IS REAL AND ONLy HE IS PERFECT NOT THE WORLD NOT MAN NOT ANYTHING ONLY GOD ps go Jesus

sonichunter99

"Stuff is complicated, must have been magic".

People don't get anywhere with such a small scope.

ithilgore2006

Which reminds me

BEST VIDEO OF ALL TIME

"it's just there in the air you don't even know it" "pure motha[profane] magic"

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ME THINKS GOD IS REAL AND ONLy HE IS PERFECT NOT THE WORLD NOT MAN NOT ANYTHING ONLY GOD ps go Jesus

sonichunter99

Please learn how to express yourself coherently.

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]

If God created everything, then why is like 99.99999999999% of the universe completely inhospitable?

789shadow

No, that's pretty accurate considering that 99.999999999999% of the universe is empty space. :P

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ME THINKS GOD IS REAL AND ONLy HE IS PERFECT NOT THE WORLD NOT MAN NOT ANYTHING ONLY GOD ps go Jesus

jalexbrown

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[QUOTE="clayron"] I am Christian, and I think the idea of an eternal burning hell is complete BS, and is due to something being added and/or severely taken out of context. I don't want to go into it, but that's what is it. And if you read my posts correctly, I said "As the bible puts it...which is heavily argued" One argument against God's unconditional love is that he once said he hated someone. Now, I am not given you the complete picture, and I probably should, but if unconditional love exist there should not be hate. I do not think God can be accurately defined by anything. Do I think he is loving? Hell Yeah. Do I think his love is unconditional? I don't know how God views love, God may have a different view of love than what I believe. So, I have no real way to answer this question. If forced to chose I would say, "Yes, but because of reasons I won't go into because I do not want the crap storm.clayron

So you pick and choose what to believe?

The argument I hear the most against God is "There's no empirical evidence" :/

Without Faith there would be no Religion.

Snipes_2

and if I ever disprove religion I can make religion disappear

Damn well I know which side of the argument I am leaning towards.

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ME THINKS GOD IS REAL AND ONLy HE IS PERFECT NOT THE WORLD NOT MAN NOT ANYTHING ONLY GOD ps go Jesus

789shadow

Please learn how to express yourself coherently.

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="sonichunter99"]

ME THINKS GOD IS REAL AND ONLy HE IS PERFECT NOT THE WORLD NOT MAN NOT ANYTHING ONLY GOD ps go Jesus

clayron

[QUOTE="clayron"][QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

So you pick and choose what to believe?

sonichunter99