I made a timeline to when music died.

The list is obviously wrong. Music was revived recently with Rebecca Blacks new song (My Moment).

You could date grunge back to 1984, when Green River crystalized the scene, but the Melvins formed in 1983. The Melvins never considered themselves grunge, but hard rock like Motorhead. Grunge died in 1996 after Failure's "Fantastic Planet", that was basically the last remenants of it. It wasn't until Radiohead's "OK Computer" came out that things really started to change & then when My Own Summer by Deftones came out, Nu-Metal basically took over the world from 1997-on.

So what happened was, Grunge was pop in the early 90's, then smashing pumpkins and radiohead were like mid-90's & they were basically the last great bands before 1997's downfall.

1997 from all of my research and timeline is when music reached it's full peak with OK Computer and started to spiral waaaaaay down. 1998 is when the Boy Bands, Britney Spears and Nickelback stuff started to form, with Days of the New & Deftones as the leaders. Then Korn & Limp Bizkit nailed the coffin.

Thoughts?

CaptainBeer

Second: grunge, like anything that's wildly popular, was just a phase (a bad one, at that). From the moment it began to dominate the airwaves, it was doomed to crash, and crash hard. You cited nu-metal in your "death timeline?" How popular is that these days (hint: I'm hard pressed to think of any nu-metal bands that stayed nu-metal and stayed popular)?

Besides, by your criteria, the real death of "music" was April 5th, 1994, when Courtney Love had--- I mean, Kurt Cobain comitted suicide.

I realize that everyone likes different things...BUT its just common knowledge that music has gone down hill over the past 20 years. OUTSIDE of a few shining stars out there...Same for movies,tv ect..You might "like" something, but its something thats already been done and more than likely done better before.

Music died? Could have fooled me, progressive metal is still going strong in my eyes.

I realize that everyone likes different things...BUT its just common knowledge that music has gone down hill over the past 20 years. OUTSIDE of a few shining stars out there...Same for movies,tv ect..You might "like" something, but its something thats already been done and more than likely done better before.

VanDammFan

I realize that everyone likes different things...BUT its just common knowledge that music has gone down hill over the past 20 years. OUTSIDE of a few shining stars out there...Same for movies,tv ect..You might "like" something, but its something thats already been done and more than likely done better before.

VanDammFan

If people think music sucks these days, why don't they make their own?

I thought this would take all genres into account. Oh well.

The day the music died - Richie Valenz and the big bopper + Buddy Holly die in a plane crashX360PS3AMD05

This should have been the obvious reference, yet you seem to be the only one in this topic to have made the connection. Kudos to you. Shame on everyone else for missing it. Shame, I say!

I realize that everyone likes different things...BUT its just common knowledge that music has gone down hill over the past 20 years. OUTSIDE of a few shining stars out there...Same for movies,tv ect..You might "like" something, but its something thats already been done and more than likely done better before.

VanDammFan

People were saying the exact same thing about the music you think is so amazing 20 years ago. Every generation believes that the past is golden and the future is an abyss.

The Deftones killed music? :lol:

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]The day the music died - Richie Valenz and the big bopper + Buddy Holly die in a plane crashOleg_Huzwog

This should have been the obvious reference, yet you seem to be the only one in this topic to have made the connection. Kudos to you. Shame on everyone else for missing it. Shame, I say!

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]The day the music died - Richie Valenz and the big bopper + Buddy Holly die in a plane crashOleg_Huzwog

This should have been the obvious reference, yet you seem to be the only one in this topic to have made the connection. Kudos to you. Shame on everyone else for missing it. Shame, I say!

I realize that everyone likes different things...BUT its just common knowledge that music has gone down hill over the past 20 years. OUTSIDE of a few shining stars out there...Same for movies,tv ect..You might "like" something, but its something thats already been done and more than likely done better before.

VanDammFan

What's funny is that people have been saying that exact same thing for as long as music, movies, etc have existed. Everybody always thinks, and even insists that it's common knowledge, that the stuff they grew up with is the absolute peak and that it's all been downhill since then.

I realize that everyone likes different things...BUT its just common knowledge that music has gone down hill over the past 20 years. OUTSIDE of a few shining stars out there...Same for movies,tv ect..You might "like" something, but its something thats already been done and more than likely done better before.

VanDammFan

We're not, though. Music remains just as strong as it always has been.

Why do people make dumb threads like this? The Strokes, The Killers, Bloc party, The Arcade Fire are just a few awesome bands from 2000+. If no one gives new music a chance, then it will fail. Its all of our fault. Give it a chance.

[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]Lady Gaga rewrote the rules on music, *paws up*. I joke I joke. But seriously I love Gaga.imaps3fanboy

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]Lady Gaga rewrote the rules on music, *paws up*. I joke I joke. But seriously I love Gaga.Shmiity

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="Shmiity"] You're a dumbass if you think lady Gaga is some pop star idiot. She's a genius. I dont like her music either, but think about it, ever since "Bad Romance" came out, she has been ubiquitous, she is everywhere. Lots of people like her around the globe. (although I kind of like Paparazzi...). She's a marketing machine, and damn good at it. and her musicianship is pretty tight. If you disagree, you dont know how to analyze music. InEMplease

Lady Gaga has the key to his heart. :oops:

:)

I turned on the radio......and music came out. So, I assume it is still alive. Nyuck Nyuck

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="Shmiity"] You're a dumbass if you think lady Gaga is some pop star idiot. She's a genius. I dont like her music either, but think about it, ever since "Bad Romance" came out, she has been ubiquitous, she is everywhere. Lots of people like her around the globe. (although I kind of like Paparazzi...). She's a marketing machine, and damn good at it. and her musicianship is pretty tight. If you disagree, you dont know how to analyze music. InEMplease

Lady Gaga has the key to his heart. :oops:

Tbh music hasn't died, mainstream music has just taken over. Which is for the most part crap imo but I have to admit I do miss classic rock and grunge though.

OK Computer isn't even Radiohea's best album. Mostly everything they have release since then is better actually.

Dark_Knight6

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]Lady Gaga rewrote the rules on music, *paws up*. I joke I joke. But seriously I love Gaga.Shmiity

Her brainwashing music , fame and effective marketing schemes don't make here a genius...DmadFearmonger

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]Her brainwashing music , fame and effective marketing schemes don't make here a genius...LJS9502_basic

If Radiohead was the pinnacle of music, then God help us all.

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]Her brainwashing music , fame and effective marketing schemes don't make here a genius...LJS9502_basic

TC, Music is not dead. Don't listen to mainstream.

If Radiohead was the pinnacle of music, then God help us all.

heysharpshooter

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]Her brainwashing music , fame and effective marketing schemes don't make here a genius...scorch-62

If Radiohead was the pinnacle of music, then God help us all.

heysharpshooter

Music seems to be a zombie at this point as it seems to die every generation

You're a dumbass if you think lady Gaga is some pop star idiot. She's a genius. I dont like her music either, but think about it, ever since "Bad Romance" came out, she has been ubiquitous, she is everywhere. Lots of people like her around the globe. (although I kind of like Paparazzi...). She's a marketing machine, and damn good at it. and her musicianship is pretty tight. If you disagree, you dont know how to analyze music. Shmiity

In fact, the only songs that stick out at all are "(Forget) You" (because it's hilarious) and "Rollin' In The Deep" (because it has actual guitars in it).

You could date grunge back to 1984, when Green River crystalized the scene, but the Melvins formed in 1983. The Melvins never considered themselves grunge, but hard rock like Motorhead. Grunge died in 1996 after Failure's "Fantastic Planet", that was basically the last remenants of it. It wasn't until Radiohead's "OK Computer" came out that things really started to change & then when My Own Summer by Deftones came out, Nu-Metal basically took over the world from 1997-on.

So what happened was, Grunge was pop in the early 90's, then smashing pumpkins and radiohead were like mid-90's & they were basically the last great bands before 1997's downfall.

1997 from all of my research and timeline is when music reached it's full peak with OK Computer and started to spiral waaaaaay down. 1998 is when the Boy Bands, Britney Spears and Nickelback stuff started to form, with Days of the New & Deftones as the leaders. Then Korn & Limp Bizkit nailed the coffin.

Thoughts?

CaptainBeer

Oh wow, I wasn't aware that grunge, punk, and ska were the only genres of music that existed. Seriously though, if you think good music hasn't existed since the 90s you need to broaden your horizons. It's also funny that while people will bitterly complain about modern music in the current decade, the second that decade becomes retro (ie 20 years have elapsed from its start) suddenly everyone is like "dude, the (insert retro decade here) had the best music ever!"gameguy6700

It's like those people don't even remember all the hate those songs used to get.

Why do people make dumb threads like this? The Strokes, The Killers, Bloc party, The Arcade Fire are just a few awesome bands from 2000+. If no one gives new music a chance, then it will fail. Its all of our fault. Give it a chance.

Shmiity

The Killers? Try listening to Joy Division

[QUOTE="Shmiity"]

Why do people make dumb threads like this? The Strokes, The Killers, Bloc party, The Arcade Fire are just a few awesome bands from 2000+. If no one gives new music a chance, then it will fail. Its all of our fault. Give it a chance.

CaptainBeer

The Killers? Try listening to Joy Division

[QUOTE="CaptainBeer"]

[QUOTE="Shmiity"]

Why do people make dumb threads like this? The Strokes, The Killers, Bloc party, The Arcade Fire are just a few awesome bands from 2000+. If no one gives new music a chance, then it will fail. Its all of our fault. Give it a chance.

OrkHammer007

The Killers? Try listening to Joy Division

[QUOTE="CaptainBeer"]

[QUOTE="Shmiity"]

Why do people make dumb threads like this? The Strokes, The Killers, Bloc party, The Arcade Fire are just a few awesome bands from 2000+. If no one gives new music a chance, then it will fail. Its all of our fault. Give it a chance.

OrkHammer007

The Killers? Try listening to Joy Division

Joy Division was around in 1978, before the new wave-inspired pop bands....so

1978 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzTw4PYfROU

you're out of your element.

[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]

[QUOTE="CaptainBeer"]

The Killers? Try listening to Joy Division

CaptainBeer

Joy Division was around in 1978, before the new wave-inspired pop bands....so

1978 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzTw4PYfROU

you're out of your element.