I've always thought of master chief as the dude with no identity other than being human, and shooting hordes of aliens until they are all dead at his feet. Beyond the loss of character mysteriousness, whatevs.
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I've always thought of master chief as the dude with no identity other than being human, and shooting hordes of aliens until they are all dead at his feet. Beyond the loss of character mysteriousness, whatevs.
Where would you get these statistics from? There are not enough Gay Gamers to warrant a franchise where the protagonist is Gay How is this even arguable?[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]
[QUOTE="xaos"] And I'll drop out hereLikeHaterade
what exactly are you even arguing? I'm not gay and I would love to see a gay protagonist in a video game.
Why?[QUOTE="SgtKevali"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]
Game companies should not start making Gay Protagonists. The Protoganists are Heterosexual because that is what the majority of Gamers identify with.
Snipes_2
They also shouldn't make them badass. The protagonists shouldn't be badass because the majority of gamers are not badass. How can you relate (or feel connected) to such a character?
"Badass" is subjective. Everyone has a different definition of it, plus, most kids playing these games see the protagonist as someone they would want to be. And I. Want. To. Be. Gay.[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Where would you get these statistics from? There are not enough Gay Gamers to warrant a franchise where the protagonist is Gay How is this even arguable?
Snipes_2
what exactly are you even arguing? I'm not gay and I would love to see a gay protagonist in a video game.
Why?Why do you care :|
[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Where would you get these statistics from? There are not enough Gay Gamers to warrant a franchise where the protagonist is Gay How is this even arguable?
Snipes_2
what exactly are you even arguing? I'm not gay and I would love to see a gay protagonist in a video game.
Why?Why not? Give me a reason not to want a gay protagonist in a game, and I will tell you why.
[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Where would you get these statistics from? There are not enough Gay Gamers to warrant a franchise where the protagonist is Gay How is this even arguable?
Snipes_2
what exactly are you even arguing? I'm not gay and I would love to see a gay protagonist in a video game.
Why? You can't tell me this guy isn't your favorite guy in Dynasty Warriors.[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] Next time, try to get the most recent statistics as possible . . . "A recent government survey found that 4 percent of adults aged 18-45 identified as 'homosexual' or 'bisexual.' " -- Sourcescorch-62"A Government Survey" is not really a source. For ****'s sake, read the goddamn link. The survey was an extension of the 2005/2006 census. Next are you going to say that the US Census Bureau isn't a reliable source because it's part of the government? :roll: You mean this "the U.S based on the 2005/2006 American Community Survey, an extension of the U.S. Census (Gary J. Gates, 2006, "Same-Sex Couples and the Gay Lesbian, Bisexual Population: New Estimates from the American Community Survey"). " An Extension of the US Census? And that was not the portion you quoted.
8.8 million of 307,066,550 is 4%? No, It's 2.86%. Still an insanely low number, and how many of them are gamers? Probably A LOT less.
You can't tell me this guy isn't your favorite guy in Dynasty Warriors.jaydoughOkay...I'll bite. Who?
[QUOTE="SgtKevali"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]
Game companies should not start making Gay Protagonists. The Protoganists are Heterosexual because that is what the majority of Gamers identify with.
Lonelynight
They also shouldn't make them badass. The protagonists shouldn't be badass because the majority of gamers are not badass. How can you relate (or feel connected) to such a character?
Most people like to imagine themselves as badass but not as gay man though. :P Pretend to be me, and imagine yourself as a badass gay man[QUOTE="jaydough"]You can't tell me this guy isn't your favorite guy in Dynasty Warriors.LJS9502_basicOkay...I'll bite. Who? Zhang He.
[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Why?scorch-62Why not? Give me a reason not to want a gay protagonist in a game, and I will tell you why. Apparently because gays are in the minority.
I see no logic in that whatsoever.
Apparently because gays are in the minority.[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"] Why not? Give me a reason not to want a gay protagonist in a game, and I will tell you why.LikeHaterade
I see no logic in that whatsoever.
I'm guessing he doesn't want to play as a gay protagonist because he isn't gay Game developers want to reach the widest audience possible so they stick to the generic game hero. However, since sexuality isn't usually an issue in most games....develop your own character story as you see fit. Then everyone is happy....[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]I see no logic in that whatsoever.scorch-62Well you can just ask Snipes about that.
Not sure what you two are arguing over TBH.LJS9502_basicSnipes is dismissing my information because the source is a government survey. Wow, Way to totally put words in my mouth.
[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] Apparently because gays are in the minority.LJS9502_basic
I see no logic in that whatsoever.
I'm guessing he doesn't want to play as a gay protagonist because he isn't gay Game developers want to reach the widest audience possible so they stick to the generic game hero. However, since sexuality isn't usually an issue in most games....develop your own character story as you see fit. Then everyone is happy.... That's what I'm saying. The Gay MArket isn't very large, so making a Gay Protagonist wouldn't really yield much profit.Not sure what you two are arguing over TBH.LJS9502_basicSnipes is dismissing my information because the source is a government survey. Can't trust the government with the simplest of things I guess....:lol: I'm not saying your source wasn't a good one...just having fun with the government.
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] That's why you read the goddamn link I give you. [QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Wow, Way to totally put words in my mouth. scorch-62
"A Government Survey" is not really a source. Snipes_2I read the portion pertaining to your quote, as I thought that's what you were referencing...And "A Government Survey" IS NOT a source in and of itself. There's no mention of the survey or anything in that quote.
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]I read the portion pertaining to your quote, as I thought that's what you were referencing...scorch-62I posted the most relevant portion of the link that I was referencing, which you refused to acknowledge until I said something. I read the Quote that was wrong. It's not 4%.
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]And "A Government Survey" IS NOT a source in and of itself. There's no mention of the survey or anything in that quote.scorch-62That's why you read the link I gave you, which I dubiously named "Source." You posted a quote from the link, I referenced to the quote. That's generally what I do unless someone references the actual statistical information.
[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]I read the portion pertaining to your quote, as I thought that's what you were referencing...Snipes_2I posted the most relevant portion of the link that I was referencing, which you refused to acknowledge until I said something. I read the Quote that was wrong. It's not 4%. Judging by the conversation we're having right now, I highly doubt your ability to judge that.
[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]And "A Government Survey" IS NOT a source in and of itself. There's no mention of the survey or anything in that quote.Snipes_2That's why you read the link I gave you, which I dubiously named "Source." You posted a quote from the link, I referenced to the quote. That's generally what I do unless someone references the actual statistical information. I posted the most relevant portion of the link. That fact that you chose to ignore the other information in that link is your own damn fault.
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] I posted the most relevant portion of the link that I was referencing, which you refused to acknowledge until I said something.scorch-62I read the Quote that was wrong. It's not 4%. Judging by the conversation we're having right now, I highly doubt your ability to judge that. Whatever...4% is still not a substantial enoguh amount even IF Every Gay PErson was a gamer.
Whatever...4% is still not a substantial enoguh amount even IF Every Gay PErson was a gamer.Snipes_2Minorities get acknowledged in society, too, whether you like it or not.
Yes, You posted the Most Relevant part, that's why I read THAT PART...Snipes_2That doesn't mean you can ignore everything else, especially since we were arguing OVER INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE GODDAMN LINK.
I consistantly play hetero sexual characters all the time, I also play female characters and characters that are not human.... I don't understand how a heterosexual could have a problem doing the same once in a while with a homosexual character... in fact, i do recall an old playstation one game getting a little extra spotlight for having a lesbian protagonist.
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Whatever...4% is still not a substantial enoguh amount even IF Every Gay PErson was a gamer.scorch-62Minorities get acknowledged in society, too, whether you like it or not.
Yes, You posted the Most Relevant part, that's why I read THAT PART...Snipes_2That doesn't mean you can ignore everything else, especially since we were arguing OVER INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE GODDAMN LINK. The Argument is not over whether or not Minorities get represented. There are not enough Gay Gamers to warrant a game with a solely Gay Protagonist. Maybe I assumed too much, when I see someone post the "Most Relevant" information, That's what I generally look at.
The Argument is not over whether or not Minorities get represented. There is not enough Gay Gamers to warrant a game with a solely Gay Protagonist.Snipes_2So, in other words, you're saying that minorities don't deserve to get represented in various forms of media because they're minorities? Okay; that's all you had to say.
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