If Master Chief was g*y would you opinion of the game change? why? (serious)

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#151 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]The Argument is not over whether or not Minorities get represented. There is not enough Gay Gamers to warrant a game with a solely Gay Protagonist.scorch-62
So, in other words, you're saying that minorities don't deserve to get represented in various forms of media because they're minorities? Okay; that's all you had to say.

Alright, Since you want to keep putting words in my mouth. Guess we're done.
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If it involved him engaging in a gay sexual act in the game, then yes. I'd never of played it.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You can cut the tension with a knife. Imagine your character any way you want.....scorch-62
And that's exactly how Master Chief was designed as a character.

I have the first two games....but I haven't imagined him as anything but a game character.
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#154 Vax45
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Who's Master Chief?
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#155 dave123321
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You can cut the tension with a knife. Imagine your character any way you want.....LJS9502_basic
Yup. Too much un-needed tension .On an unrelated note I had no clue the new Layton game was coming out. Do want.
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#156 disharmonized
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Master Chief is not gay Okay! hes just sensitive!

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He is just sensitive... to bullets.
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#157 scorch-62
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Alright, Since you want to keep putting words in my mouth. Guess we're done. Snipes_2
How am I putting words in your mouth when that's EXACTLY what you're saying? Your argument against a homosexual video game protagonist is based entirely on the fact that homosexuals only account for 4% of the US population.
I have the first two games....but I haven't imagined him as anything but a game character. LJS9502_basic
Then that's all he is if that's all you want him to be. Master Chief was designed as a faceless, mostly silent protagonist to allow the players to imagine the details of his face, personality, and background for themselves. Some could call it lazy; others, brilliant.
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#158 super_mario_128
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If it involved him engaging in a gay sexual act in the game, then yes. I'd never of played it.Immortalica
Tbh most games should dispense with graphic sex scenes since they're solely gratuitous and cheap exploitation.
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#159 bededog
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Halo doesn't revolve around relationships, romance, or sex so it wouldn't impact the game in any meaningful way. To use a real world example: does Samus Aran being a girl have an impact on the Metroid games? For the most part, no. Most of the games you wouldn't even know she was a girl. Her sex is irrelevant; just as Master Chief's sexual orientation is irrelevant to Halo. So no, Master Chief being gay would not impact my view of Halo.
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Alright, Since you want to keep putting words in my mouth. Guess we're done. scorch-62
How am I putting words in your mouth when that's EXACTLY what you're saying? Your argument against a homosexual video game protagonist is based entirely on the fact that Homosexuals only account for 4% of the US population.
I have the first two games....but I haven't imagined him as anything but a game character. LJS9502_basic
Then that's all he is if that's all you want him to be. Master Chief was designed as a faceless, mostly silent protagonist to allow the players to imagine the details of his face, personality, and background for themselves. Some could call it lazy; others, brilliant.

No where did I This "you're saying that minorities don't deserve to get represented in various forms of media because they're minorities?"
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No where did I This "you're saying that minorities don't deserve to get represented in various forms of media because they're minorities?"Snipes_2
I never directly attributed those words to you; it's called paraphrasing.
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] How am I putting words in your mouth when that's EXACTLY what you're saying? Your argument against a homosexual video game protagonist is based entirely on the fact that Homosexuals only account for 4% of the US population.
I have the first two games....but I haven't imagined him as anything but a game character. LJS9502_basic
Then that's all he is if that's all you want him to be. Master Chief was designed as a faceless, mostly silent protagonist to allow the players to imagine the details of his face, personality, and background for themselves. Some could call it lazy; others, brilliant.

No where did I This "you're saying that minorities don't deserve to get represented in various forms of media because they're minorities?"

That's basically what your argument infers. You're saying that because homosexual population is around 4% it means there is no point in having a gay protagonist. So basically there's not enough of them to warrant representation. He's not putting words in your mouth, he's reading what you're saying and stating his interpretation. I would say it's a valid interpretation as well.
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Then that's all he is if that's all you want him to be. Master Chief was designed as a faceless, mostly silent protagonist to allow the players to imagine the details of his face, personality, and background for themselves. Some could call it lazy; others, brilliant.scorch-62

They kinda ruined that with the books... Masterchief has red hair, and I believe freckles as a kid. I'll never seem him the same way again. :P

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]The Argument is not over whether or not Minorities get represented. There is not enough Gay Gamers to warrant a game with a solely Gay Protagonist.scorch-62
So, in other words, you're saying that minorities don't deserve to get represented in various forms of media because they're minorities? Okay; that's all you had to say.

I think the point he is making is that from a profits perspective a gay character would not bring in significant additional profits . Could be wrong though.
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No. Mostly because I don't play Halo.
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]The Argument is not over whether or not Minorities get represented. There is not enough Gay Gamers to warrant a game with a solely Gay Protagonist.dave123321
So, in other words, you're saying that minorities don't deserve to get represented in various forms of media because they're minorities? Okay; that's all you had to say.

I think the point he is making is that from a profits perspective a gay character would bring in significant additional profits . Could be wrong though.

i think you are... because that would be a good thing. :P
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] Then that's all he is if that's all you want him to be. Master Chief was designed as a faceless, mostly silent protagonist to allow the players to imagine the details of his face, personality, and background for themselves. Some could call it lazy; others, brilliant.

No where did I This "you're saying that minorities don't deserve to get represented in various forms of media because they're minorities?"

That's basically what your argument infers. You're saying that because homosexual population is around 4% it means there is no point in having a gay protagonist. So basically there's not enough of them to warrant representation. He's not putting words in your mouth, he's reading what you're saying and stating his interpretation. I would say it's a valid interpretation as well.

Why would I point out games where you can play as a Gay Protagonist. Both of Which were Best Sellers?
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"] Then that's all he is if that's all you want him to be. Master Chief was designed as a faceless, mostly silent protagonist to allow the players to imagine the details of his face, personality, and background for themselves. Some could call it lazy; others, brilliant.Baconbits2004
They kinda ruined that with the books... Masterchief has red hair, and I believe freckles as a kid. I'll never seem him the same way again. :P

As I recall, that was the only description that was ever given of John. It's not that difficult to assume that he's changed between the time that Dr. Halsey found him and the time he went through the augmentation process.
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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] So, in other words, you're saying that minorities don't deserve to get represented in various forms of media because they're minorities? Okay; that's all you had to say.Baconbits2004
I think the point he is making is that from a profits perspective a gay character would bring in significant additional profits . Could be wrong though.

i think you are... because that would be a good thing. :P

I missed a word.
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#170 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]No where did I This "you're saying that minorities don't deserve to get represented in various forms of media because they're minorities?"scorch-62
I never directly attributed those words to you; it's called paraphrasing.

Incorrect though. I'm stating that a game with a Single Character. One Character represents the whole game and he's Gay (Which would play a substantial role in plot etc..) wouldn't sell as well as other games where you have the option to choose. Games like Gears of War 2 have 2 of the 3 main characters in Minority groups, they aren't the SOLE Character though. Look at Mass Effect and Dragon Age Origins.

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#171 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"][QUOTE="dave123321"] I think the point he is making is that from a profits perspective a gay character would bring in significant additional profits . Could be wrong though. dave123321
i think you are... because that would be a good thing. :P

I missed a word.

If you're saying "Would not" bring in additional profits, that would be the point I'm trying to make.
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#172 dave123321
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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="Baconbits2004"] i think you are... because that would be a good thing. :PSnipes_2
I missed a word.

If you're saying "Would not" bring in additional profits, that would be the point I'm trying to make.

That would be what I intended.
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="dave123321"] I missed a word.dave123321
If you're saying "Would not" bring in additional profits, that would be the point I'm trying to make.

That would be what I intended.

Ah, Alright.
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Well it would certainly explain all the teabagging that occurs in multiplayer.

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[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]No where did I This "you're saying that minorities don't deserve to get represented in various forms of media because they're minorities?"Snipes_2
I never directly attributed those words to you; it's called paraphrasing.

Incorrect though. I'm stating that a game with a Single Character. One Character represents the whole game and he's Gay (Which would play a substantial role in plot etc..) wouldn't sell as well as other games where you have the option to choose. Games like Gears of War 2 have 2 of the 3 main characters in Minority groups, they aren't the SOLE Character though.

Name one game where a straight person's sexuality had "a substantial role in [the] plot."
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] No where did I This "you're saying that minorities don't deserve to get represented in various forms of media because they're minorities?"

That's basically what your argument infers. You're saying that because homosexual population is around 4% it means there is no point in having a gay protagonist. So basically there's not enough of them to warrant representation. He's not putting words in your mouth, he's reading what you're saying and stating his interpretation. I would say it's a valid interpretation as well.

Why would I point out games where you can play as a Gay Protagonist. Both of Which were Best Sellers?

Because it was time for a non-sequiter self contradiction? I have no idea why you would post something that hurts your own argument. By saying "oh but there are games out there with homosexual protagonists (should you choose at least)" you're kind of hurting your argument that a 4% population doesn't warrant a homosexual protagonist. Why don't you tell me why you posted it, since I'm sure you're going to disagree with my assumed reason.
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#177 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] I never directly attributed those words to you; it's called paraphrasing.

Incorrect though. I'm stating that a game with a Single Character. One Character represents the whole game and he's Gay (Which would play a substantial role in plot etc..) wouldn't sell as well as other games where you have the option to choose. Games like Gears of War 2 have 2 of the 3 main characters in Minority groups, they aren't the SOLE Character though.

Name one game where a straight person's sexuality had "a substantial role in [the] plot."

Dragon Age Origins - Ritual with Morrigan.
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#178 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] That's basically what your argument infers. You're saying that because homosexual population is around 4% it means there is no point in having a gay protagonist. So basically there's not enough of them to warrant representation. He's not putting words in your mouth, he's reading what you're saying and stating his interpretation. I would say it's a valid interpretation as well.

Why would I point out games where you can play as a Gay Protagonist. Both of Which were Best Sellers?

Because it was time for a non-sequiter self contradiction? I have no idea why you would post something that hurts your own argument. By saying "oh but there are games out there with homosexual protagonists (should you choose at least)" you're kind of hurting your argument that a 4% population doesn't warrant a homosexual protagonist. Why don't you tell me why you posted it, since I'm sure you're going to disagree with my assumed reason.

The thing is, I'm not arguing against the Idea of Gays in Games. There are already games that let you be gay
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I can't see how it could possibly be reflected in the game; would he comment on how hot another soldier's ass was or something?xaos

what he said

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Why would I point out games where you can play as a Gay Protagonist. Both of Which were Best Sellers?

Because it was time for a non-sequiter self contradiction? I have no idea why you would post something that hurts your own argument. By saying "oh but there are games out there with homosexual protagonists (should you choose at least)" you're kind of hurting your argument that a 4% population doesn't warrant a homosexual protagonist. Why don't you tell me why you posted it, since I'm sure you're going to disagree with my assumed reason.

The thing is, I'm not arguing against the Idea of Gays in Games. There are already games that let you be gay

Then what are you arguing? I don't see anything else that really warrants an argument in this topic, right? Also about the Morrigan thing: You don't need to play a straight character for that scene. Your character could be gay or even a woman and that plot point can still occur whether by your character sucking it up and taking it for the team or having Alistair doing it instead.
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] Because it was time for a non-sequiter self contradiction? I have no idea why you would post something that hurts your own argument. By saying "oh but there are games out there with homosexual protagonists (should you choose at least)" you're kind of hurting your argument that a 4% population doesn't warrant a homosexual protagonist. Why don't you tell me why you posted it, since I'm sure you're going to disagree with my assumed reason.Ace6301
The thing is, I'm not arguing against the Idea of Gays in Games. There are already games that let you be gay

Then what are you arguing? I don't see anything else that really warrants an argument in this topic, right?

I'm arguing that it wouldn't add any additional profit or anything to the Franchise if you had a Game about a Gay Guy.

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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] Because it was time for a non-sequiter self contradiction? I have no idea why you would post something that hurts your own argument. By saying "oh but there are games out there with homosexual protagonists (should you choose at least)" you're kind of hurting your argument that a 4% population doesn't warrant a homosexual protagonist. Why don't you tell me why you posted it, since I'm sure you're going to disagree with my assumed reason.

The thing is, I'm not arguing against the Idea of Gays in Games. There are already games that let you be gay

Then what are you arguing? I don't see anything else that really warrants an argument in this topic, right?

Profits. It's my understanding that in order for a game to sell well it has to blend in with other games....
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Incorrect though. I'm stating that a game with a Single Character. One Character represents the whole game and he's Gay (Which would play a substantial role in plot etc..) wouldn't sell as well as other games where you have the option to choose. Games like Gears of War 2 have 2 of the 3 main characters in Minority groups, they aren't the SOLE Character though.

Name one game where a straight person's sexuality had "a substantial role in [the] plot."

Dragon Age Origins - Ritual with Morrigan.

Explain.
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] I never directly attributed those words to you; it's called paraphrasing.scorch-62
Incorrect though. I'm stating that a game with a Single Character. One Character represents the whole game and he's Gay (Which would play a substantial role in plot etc..) wouldn't sell as well as other games where you have the option to choose. Games like Gears of War 2 have 2 of the 3 main characters in Minority groups, they aren't the SOLE Character though.

Name one game where a straight person's sexuality had "a substantial role in [the] plot."

Leisure Suit Larry. :lol:
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It wouldn't make sense to announced the Chief's sexuality at all. The point of him, like all faceless/silent characters, is to lack an apparent personality so that the player experiences the literary elements of the game from a first person perspective. And I think that the main demographic of the games, after having played them extensively online, lacks the maturity to handle the badass main character going him to a Mr. Chief at night.

That said, I think that it is time for gay characters to be brought out and handled tastefully in video games. The only game to have done this, to my knoweledge, is Persona 4. It added quite a bit of depth to the character and made him more relatable to myself, and I would assume, many other gay gamers.

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[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] Name one game where a straight person's sexuality had "a substantial role in [the] plot."

Dragon Age Origins - Ritual with Morrigan.

Explain.

[spoiler] Have to have a kid with Morrigan so your Character doesn't die [/spoiler]
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] I never directly attributed those words to you; it's called paraphrasing.scorch-62
Incorrect though. I'm stating that a game with a Single Character. One Character represents the whole game and he's Gay (Which would play a substantial role in plot etc..) wouldn't sell as well as other games where you have the option to choose. Games like Gears of War 2 have 2 of the 3 main characters in Minority groups, they aren't the SOLE Character though.

Name one game where a straight person's sexuality had "a substantial role in [the] plot."

Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty.

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[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"][QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] The thing is, I'm not arguing against the Idea of Gays in Games. There are already games that let you be gay

Then what are you arguing? I don't see anything else that really warrants an argument in this topic, right?

Profits. It's my understanding that in order for a game to sell well it has to blend in with other games....

His opening comment was "Game companies should not start making Gay Protagonists. The Protoganists are Heterosexual because that is what the majority of Gamers identify with." Sounds less to do with profits and more to do with gamer preference but I guess they're one in the same to an extent, especially with a cash cow franchise like Halo. I guess when I think entertainment my mind doesn't jump to profits and instead centers onto things like gameplay and story where the whole gay thing wouldn't have any effect. Still comes off to me that he's saying gamers wouldn't like it as a whole if chief was "teh ghey though from what I've seen of Halo's target audience I suppose he may well be right.
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Baconbits2004"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] Then what are you arguing? I don't see anything else that really warrants an argument in this topic, right?

Profits. It's my understanding that in order for a game to sell well it has to blend in with other games....

His opening comment was "Game companies should not start making Gay Protagonists. The Protoganists are Heterosexual because that is what the majority of Gamers identify with." Sounds less to do with profits and more to do with gamer preference but I guess they're one in the same to an extent, especially with a cash cow franchise like Halo. I guess when I think entertainment my mind doesn't jump to profits and instead centers onto things like gameplay and story where the whole gay thing wouldn't have any effect. Still comes off to me that he's saying gamers wouldn't like it as a whole if chief was "teh ghey though from what I've seen of Halo's target audience I suppose he may well be right.

Well, They probably wouldn't like it for sure.
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#190 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Dragon Age Origins - Ritual with Morrigan.

Explain.

[spoiler] Have to have a kid with Morrigan so your Character doesn't die [/spoiler]

[spoiler] Except you don't. Alistair can have the kid as well. As can a gay character as I already said on my edit on the last page. You can also get other characters to sacrifice themselves for you. However, yes morrigan is going to have a child in the next game and it's going to be important. I think they'll read off your game though whether it was from Alistair, you or another random person if you chose not to have that scene. [/spoiler] "Well, They probably wouldn't like it for sure." Kind of wish this topic had a poll now.
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#191 SolidSnake35
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I thought he was gay
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#192 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] Explain.

[spoiler] Have to have a kid with Morrigan so your Character doesn't die [/spoiler]

[spoiler] Except you don't. Alistair can have the kid as well. As can a gay character as I already said on my edit on the last page. You can also get other characters to sacrifice themselves for you. However, yes morrigan is going to have a child in the next game and it's going to be important. I think they'll read off your game though whether it was from Alistair, you or another random person if you chose not to have that scene. [/spoiler]

Still important though. If the main character was Gay...and that was the only character...So...IT plays a role in the plot.
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#193 THE_DRUGGIE
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Baconbits2004"] Profits. It's my understanding that in order for a game to sell well it has to blend in with other games....Snipes_2
His opening comment was "Game companies should not start making Gay Protagonists. The Protoganists are Heterosexual because that is what the majority of Gamers identify with." Sounds less to do with profits and more to do with gamer preference but I guess they're one in the same to an extent, especially with a cash cow franchise like Halo. I guess when I think entertainment my mind doesn't jump to profits and instead centers onto things like gameplay and story where the whole gay thing wouldn't have any effect. Still comes off to me that he's saying gamers wouldn't like it as a whole if chief was "teh ghey though from what I've seen of Halo's target audience I suppose he may well be right.

Well, They probably wouldn't like it for sure.

A lot of people like the Metal Gear Solid series.

[spoiler] Seriously, the things Kojima puts in those games is...well, different and it makes be doubt Snake's preferences... [/spoiler]

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#194 deactivated-6016f2513d412
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Snipes_2, may I ask you why you are SO OBSESSED with homosexuality?
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#195 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] His opening comment was "Game companies should not start making Gay Protagonists. The Protoganists are Heterosexual because that is what the majority of Gamers identify with." Sounds less to do with profits and more to do with gamer preference but I guess they're one in the same to an extent, especially with a cash cow franchise like Halo. I guess when I think entertainment my mind doesn't jump to profits and instead centers onto things like gameplay and story where the whole gay thing wouldn't have any effect. Still comes off to me that he's saying gamers wouldn't like it as a whole if chief was "teh ghey though from what I've seen of Halo's target audience I suppose he may well be right.THE_DRUGGIE

Well, They probably wouldn't like it for sure.

A lot of people like the Metal Gear Solid series.

I'm talking about the Halo fan base.

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#196 Snipes_2
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Snipes_2, may I ask you why you are SO OBSESSED with homosexuality?t3hrubikscube
I'm not obsessed. :?
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#197 scorch-62
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Leisure Suit Larry. :lol:sonicare
:lol: I completely forgot about that one; I probably should have worded that differently to avoid games with AO ratings.
*spoiler*Snipes_2
To the limited extent of my research, you don't have to have a kid at all (namely if your character is gay ).
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty.THE_DRUGGIE
Explain.
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#198 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="sonicare"] :lol: I completely forgot about that one; I probably should have worded that differently to avoid games with AO ratings.
*spoiler*Snipes_2
To the limited extent of my research, you don't have to have a kid at all (namely if your character is gay ).
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty.THE_DRUGGIE
Explain.

Actually you have to have a Kid or command someone else to if you would rather your character not perish.
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#199 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] His opening comment was "Game companies should not start making Gay Protagonists. The Protoganists are Heterosexual because that is what the majority of Gamers identify with." Sounds less to do with profits and more to do with gamer preference but I guess they're one in the same to an extent, especially with a cash cow franchise like Halo. I guess when I think entertainment my mind doesn't jump to profits and instead centers onto things like gameplay and story where the whole gay thing wouldn't have any effect. Still comes off to me that he's saying gamers wouldn't like it as a whole if chief was "teh ghey though from what I've seen of Halo's target audience I suppose he may well be right.THE_DRUGGIE
Well, They probably wouldn't like it for sure.

A lot of people like the Metal Gear Solid series.[spoiler] Seriously, the things Kojima puts in those games is...well, different and it makes be doubt Snake's preferences... [/spoiler]

Snake is so damn awesome no one cares though. I mean that voice...even I find myself feeling a little turned on sometimes :P I mean there is a reason why everyone is gay for Big Boss
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#200 cybrcatter
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This thread had potential for lulz. I see that never came to fruition.