If Master Chief was g*y would you opinion of the game change? why? (serious)

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#201 Baconbits2004
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Sounds less to do with profits and more to do with gamer preference but I guess they're one in the same to an extent, especially with a cash cow franchise like Halo. I guess when I think entertainment my mind doesn't jump to profits and instead centers onto things like gameplay and story where the whole gay thing wouldn't have any effect. Still comes off to me that he's saying gamers wouldn't like it as a whole if chief was "teh ghey though from what I've seen of Halo's target audience I suppose he may well be right.Ace6301
As far as halo is concerned, there may well be some people who would be upset about something like that.
In contrast Katamari Damacy was a surprise hit because it was something new, and different. Not because people identified with the prince of the cosmos, who had to take orders from his rainbow spitting father and gather up objects to make a giant ball. o.O

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#202 THE_DRUGGIE
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[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Well, They probably wouldn't like it for sure. Snipes_2

A lot of people like the Metal Gear Solid series.

I'm talking about the Halo fan base.

Whoops. Well, I just got back from a marathon of cIasses today and I'm a little bit off because I'm dead tired (and I can't fall asleep) so I read your post wrong.

Still, some of the things that happen in the MGS games makes me wonder about Snake's preferences...Not that I have anything against it but still... >.>

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#203 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

A lot of people like the Metal Gear Solid series.

THE_DRUGGIE

I'm talking about the Halo fan base.

Whoops. Well, I just got back from a marathon of cIasses today and I'm a little bit off because I'm dead tired (and I can't fall asleep) so I read your post wrong.

Still, some of the things that happen in the MGS games makes me wonder about Snake's preferences...Not that I have anything against it but still... >.>

Ha, Me too. I just finished my report a little while ago, been up doing school stuff since like 8 :P
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#204 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="sonicare"] To the limited extent of my research, you don't have to have a kid at all (namely if your character is gay ).
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty.THE_DRUGGIE
Explain.

Actually you have to have a Kid or command someone else to if you would rather your character not perish.

[spoiler] Your Character dying actually has no effect on the plot though. In fact the game and it's expansions are set up in a way that it doesn't matter if you do. Canon only is that Morrigan has a kid. As far as I know it's not stated who with and frankly it would make alot of sense if it was Alistair rather than the main character since then the child would also be the next rightful heir to the throne which I'm sure would make a nice plotpoint [/spoiler]
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#205 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] Explain.

Actually you have to have a Kid or command someone else to if you would rather your character not perish.

[spoiler] Your Character dying actually has no effect on the plot though. In fact the game and it's expansions are set up in a way that it doesn't matter if you do. Canon only is that Morrigan has a kid. As far as I know it's not stated who with and frankly it would make alot of sense if it was Alistair rather than the main character since then the child would also be the next rightful heir to the throne which I'm sure would make a nice plotpoint [/spoiler]

Even if you choose Alistair it still plays a part in the Plot.
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#206 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Actually you have to have a Kid or command someone else to if you would rather your character not perish.

[spoiler] Your Character dying actually has no effect on the plot though. In fact the game and it's expansions are set up in a way that it doesn't matter if you do. Canon only is that Morrigan has a kid. As far as I know it's not stated who with and frankly it would make alot of sense if it was Alistair rather than the main character since then the child would also be the next rightful heir to the throne which I'm sure would make a nice plotpoint [/spoiler]

Even if you choose Alistair it still plays a part in the Plot.

But your characters sexuality doesn't play a part then. Which was your point in listing Dragon Age.
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#207 THE_DRUGGIE
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[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I'm talking about the Halo fan base.

Snipes_2

Whoops. Well, I just got back from a marathon of cIasses today and I'm a little bit off because I'm dead tired (and I can't fall asleep) so I read your post wrong.

Still, some of the things that happen in the MGS games makes me wonder about Snake's preferences...Not that I have anything against it but still... >.>

Ha, Me too. I just finished my report a little while ago, been up doing school stuff since like 8 :P

Yeah, doing stuff like that for so long (had cIasses from 12:45-8:15pm) really wears on the attention span, eh? :P

In any case, back to the topic at hand: Master Chief's sexuality is something that wouldn't have any impact on me. Hell, he could be 10,000 ultra-smart rats in Spartan armor and I still wouldn't care.

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[QUOTE="cybrcatter"]This thread had potential for lulz. I see that never came to fruition.

That's what happens when you think of OT as your personal buffoon, you only get dissapointment.
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#209 THE_DRUGGIE
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[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty.scorch-62
Explain.

[spoiler] Rose and Jack's relationship, Rose asking if Jack was a woman, the President grabbing Raiden's happy place to see if he's a man, Snake and Otacon's "secret handshake", the fact that Otacon slept with his stepmother, Vamp, and probably a few things I forgot. [/spoiler] .

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#210 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

Whoops. Well, I just got back from a marathon of cIasses today and I'm a little bit off because I'm dead tired (and I can't fall asleep) so I read your post wrong.

Still, some of the things that happen in the MGS games makes me wonder about Snake's preferences...Not that I have anything against it but still... >.>

THE_DRUGGIE

Ha, Me too. I just finished my report a little while ago, been up doing school stuff since like 8 :P

Yeah, doing stuff like that for so long (had cIasses from 12:45-8:15pm) really wears on the attention span, eh? :P

In any case, back to the topic at hand: Master Chief's sexuality is something that wouldn't have any impact on me. Hell, he could be 10,000 ultra-smart rats in Spartan armor and I still wouldn't care.

I doubt it would have any impact on the game at all.
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#211 lightleggy
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I would still think its overrated...and even worse people wouldnt say its overrated because they would be afraid of being called "homophobic"
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#212 scorch-62
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*spoiler*THE_DRUGGIE
I'm not exactly well-informed on the Metal Gear Solid series. D= [spoiler] To the best of my knowledge, however, the President's crotch grab had no significant effect on the plot nor did it provide any details on either character's sexuality. I really don't have enough knowledge to be able to comment on any of the other situations you described. [/spoiler]
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#213 Snipes_2
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I would still think its overrated...and even worse people wouldnt say its overrated because they would be afraid of being called "homophobic"lightleggy
That's probably true. I like the first 2 Halo games. The other ones weren't too great in my opinion.
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#214 dissonantblack
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of course not. I'd still play and enjoy. Albeit i might find it kinda funny.

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#215 Serraph105
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first off I have never played Halo for the story.

second it's not a love story and thus wouldn't matter anyways.

third I think they need to tackle his face before they tackle his sexuality.

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#216 THE_DRUGGIE
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[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]*spoiler*scorch-62
I'm not exactly well-informed on the Metal Gear Solid series. D= [spoiler] To the best of my knowledge, however, the President's crotch grab had no significant effect on the plot nor did it provide any details on either character's sexuality. I really don't have enough knowledge to be able to comment on any of the other situations you described. [/spoiler]

[spoiler] Of course the crotch grab did! Raiden was taken aback by it, showing that he was heterosexual. [/spoiler] Well, at least I thought it was a major plot point... >_>

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#217 DJ-Lafleur
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I've only ever played halo for multiplayer, so meh.

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#218 Penguinchow
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

From what I understand, it was never hinted at in any of the books. Rowling just blurted it out for no apparent reason after she'd completed the series.

jaydough

Yeah, I never caught that either. I was like :o

It was kind of hinted at in the 6th book.

I never saw that at all... I'm thinking maybe she was trying to be relevant and get a little more publicity out of it. Honestly what other purpose could she have had for making a random announcement like that?
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#219 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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Snipes_2, may I ask you why you are SO OBSESSED with homosexuality?t3hrubikscube
Methinks he doth protest too much. :3

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#220 rikkustrife
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well i don't like Halo now, so it wouldn't change

but if a character was gay it would depend if it is a good character or not

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#221 Boston_Boyy
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Only my views on teabagging tbh (

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#222 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Yeah, I never caught that either. I was like :oPenguinchow

It was kind of hinted at in the 6th book.

I never saw that at all... I'm thinking maybe she was trying to be relevant and get a little more publicity out of it. Honestly what other purpose could she have had for making a random announcement like that?

Hmm. I meant the 7th book. It explains his relation with Grindlewald.

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I would think it was an incredibly dull, uninspired shooter.... But with a homosexual protagonist as a twist. Guess I'd like it more, that'd be a surprise. Fabulous.
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#224 ZenesisX
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I would not mind it, but hispreference would not have any significance to the story whatsoever.

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#225 HomicidalCherry
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It would bother me because it would feel very tacked on and in the game just for the purpose of making a statement. Master Chief could be gay His sexuality is never really dealt with in Halo (as far as I know) so to make him explicitly gay would feel very tacked on. It would be out of place to make him gay when it never actually comes up at all in the games.

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#226 magnax1
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Halo has nothing to do with sexuality, so unless they add him grabbing the Sergeant's sausage, then it wouldn't be any different.

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It would bother me because it would feel very tacked on and in the game just for the purpose of making a statement. Master Chief could be gay His sexuality is never really dealt with in Halo (as far as I know) so to make him explicitly gay would feel very tacked on. It would be out of place to make him gay when it never actually comes up at all in the games.

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No, they could totally make it integral, like giving him rainbow armor and a pink sequined assault rifle, and having him shout "Ooooooh girl!" or "Oh snap!" whenever he shot someone. Given the level of nuance Bungie has shown with Halo characters so far, that's about the level I'd expect :P
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[QUOTE="Penguinchow"][QUOTE="jaydough"] It was kind of hinted at in the 6th book.

jaydough

I never saw that at all... I'm thinking maybe she was trying to be relevant and get a little more publicity out of it. Honestly what other purpose could she have had for making a random announcement like that?

Hmm. I meant the 7th book. It explains his relation with Grindlewald.

Even in that book, I never felt anything more than a "comradeship" between him and Grindlewald. And I've yet to see another of the millions of fans who even remotely got the idea that he was gay(in pre-Dumbledore outing days).. I mean, its her series, I suppose she knows, but It seems somehow contrived and tacked on to me.
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[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="Penguinchow"] I never saw that at all... I'm thinking maybe she was trying to be relevant and get a little more publicity out of it. Honestly what other purpose could she have had for making a random announcement like that?Penguinchow

Hmm. I meant the 7th book. It explains his relation with Grindlewald.

Even in that book, I never felt anything more than a "comradeship" between him and Grindlewald. And I've yet to see another of the millions of fans who even remotely got the idea that he was gay(in pre-Dumbledore outing days).. I mean, its her series, I suppose she knows, but It seems somehow contrived and tacked on to me.

Well, it is tacked on, but it also still makes some sense.

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#231 MrGeezer
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This is a 100% serious question.

If Master Chief turned out to be gay would your opinion of the game and it's hero change? In what ways and why?

Would it upset you?

There are very few movies and (as far as I know) video games in which the player is gay This is just an example of how the gay community is statistically under represented in all but niche areas of the media buisness. I would suggest that this is laregly a result of public opinion. Based on the above questions, wouldn't you agree? Perhaps game companies need to help in achieving change.

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I'm not very into the Halo franchise...but I'd wager that ANY sexual preference would be somewhat jarring. Him dating a man or woman, it seems like they'd both be exactly the same thing...introducing a romantic subplot into a game in which his romantic interests are completely ****ing irrelevant.

Make no mistake...from what I'm aware of, Master Chief is neither homosexual or heterosexual. Neither is he bisexual or asexual. His sexuality is completely irrelevant since that's not what those games are about. Master Chief isn't a fully fleshed-out character, he's the embodiment of Badass. A huge genetically engineered super-soldier with top-of-the-line armor and weaponry, and who's face we never even get to see.

Isn't "Master Chief is GAY sort of jumping the gun here? How many people have ever seen the dude's FACE? Ever Seen him not in combat armor, but in civilian clothes? Ever seen him hanging out at the bar, playing a game of basketball, walking his dog?

That's the thing. PEOPLE get to be gay Present a character as an actual PERSON, and they'll buy it when you say that the character is gay But that's not Master Chief. Master Chief seems to me to be the "faceless badass". The person who is ONLY defined by his ability to kick ass. And...that's not a person. THat's an idealistic portrayal of the popular badass. That's a satire on the way in which action badasses are so often devoid of any kind of actual humanity.

All I'm saying here is that we should take baby steps. First, let people see what the dude actually ****ing looks like. From there, show him tryingto be normal in a casual situation. Playing volleyball at the beach with some friends, at the convenience store buying gas for his car, or walking up to the cashier at Wal-Mart in order to buy a bag of peanuts (maybe Master Chief really loves peanuts). THEN you get to establish his sexual orientation (be that gay/straight/whatever). But that comes AFTER establishing him as a freaking PERSON.

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#232 XilePrincess
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I don't really know the halo storyline, but I don't think his sexuality would affect it, would it? Did Samus being a girl affect metroid prime all that much? It didn't for me.
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#233 Pika-Chama
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Not at all, it really wouldn't make a difference to the story at all. I mean really, how often does the Master Chief talk? Not too often, he is basically adds to the plot less than Cortana does, which is pretty sad for a main character.
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#234 CoolSkAGuy
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What if Master Chief was........a Woman :O
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#235 heysharpshooter
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What if Master Chief was........a Woman :OCoolSkAGuy

Or a horse?

Or a broom?

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#236 Z0MBIES
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It wouldn't make any sense. He has almost no characteristics other than he loves Cortana and kicking the hell out of aliens.
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#237 IzzieWaru
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I'd actually enjoy the campaign more if he was gay.

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#238 Desulated
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I never liked the games so I don't care.

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#239 Agent-Zero
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He has no sex drive though.
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#240 SgtKevali
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[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="Penguinchow"] I never saw that at all... I'm thinking maybe she was trying to be relevant and get a little more publicity out of it. Honestly what other purpose could she have had for making a random announcement like that?Penguinchow

Hmm. I meant the 7th book. It explains his relation with Grindlewald.

Even in that book, I never felt anything more than a "comradeship" between him and Grindlewald. And I've yet to see another of the millions of fans who even remotely got the idea that he was gay(in pre-Dumbledore outing days).. I mean, its her series, I suppose she knows, but It seems somehow contrived and tacked on to me.

You really didn't realize that Dumbledore had "feelings" for Grindlewald? I thought it was pretty obvious.

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#241 KHAndAnime
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I'd like the game less.
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#242 CoolSkAGuy
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I actually just though of this... the whole halo thing is a sexual innuendo.... Master Chief is always trying to get in it XD
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#243 Shad0ki11
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Master Chief is a pretty cool gay he shoots aliens and doesn't afraid of anything.

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#244 Bourbons3
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Game companies should not start making Gay Protagonists. The Protoganists are Heterosexual because that is what the majority of Gamers identify with.

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Come to think of it, I did keep thinking "What am I supposed to do here? I can't identify with this." while I played Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, because I'm not black. Same goes for IV, because I'm not eastern European. Games are fiction. People don't play them because they completely match their lives. :roll:
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#245 warownslife
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Well i have never seen a gay game character thats as popular as master chief. I wouldn't really care much. Hes still badass.

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#246 Overlord93
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No because that would never happen. Master chief is a conditioned supersoldier. He can't even have hetrosexual relations.

Its like saying: "if your computer was homosex, would you still use it"

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#247 testfactor888
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I have tried each of the Halo games (besides Reach) and never enjoyed any of them. I am just not a FPS fan. With that being said since I already don't care about the franchise I would not care about the main characters sexuality. Even if I liked the franchise though I would not care what sexual orientation the character was.

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I'd like him more. Because then his character would (hopefully) have some personality finally. And canon kinda implies he's straight. Not like it even matters, since some damage had to of happened to his libido since he was fed steroids as a child. Morally, I don't care if any main character is gay or not. As long as they don't abuse stereotypes in a non-funny manner.
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#249 EJ902
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I don't like halo much, but as far as I understand, Master Chief's personal life is not mentioned at all in any of the games. He could be gay straight, or have no interest in that stuff at all. If Master Chief were openly gay (or anything else) then they'd be adding content to the game that doesn't need to be there, so my opinion probably would change. I don't think they should deliberately insert many more gay characters in games, there are plenty of game characters out there who could be gay but you never know because their personal life is not mentioned in the game at all. Unless the character openly pursues relationships on screen, we don't need to know what their sexuality is. Though with games like GTA where the player can choose to pursue relationships with various, I don't see any reason why they couldn't add the option of making your character gay or bisexual.
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#250 Snipes_2
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Game companies should not start making Gay Protagonists. The Protoganists are Heterosexual because that is what the majority of Gamers identify with.

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Come to think of it, I did keep thinking "What am I supposed to do here? I can't identify with this." while I played Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, because I'm not black. Same goes for IV, because I'm not eastern European. Games are fiction. People don't play them because they completely match their lives. :roll:

No kidding...