If you believe in God...

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[QUOTE="v13_KiiLtz"] That would be inconsistancy. Dinosaurs were long gone before humans came about.Theokhoth

Not really there are many non biblical accounts of dinosaur like like creatures being spotted and carvings, images dated back to thousands of years ago

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] Crocodile, most likely. Theokhoth

heres the actual verse Behold now, Behemoth, which I made as well as you; He eats grass like an ox. Behold now, his strength in his loins, And his power in the muscles of his belly. He bends his tail like a cedar; The sinews of his thighs are knit together. His bones are tubes of bronze; His limbs are like bars of iron. (Job 40:15–18) Im not saying its for sure a dinosaur but its definatly not a croc, its something bigger

[QUOTE="cd_rom"]Because the universe needs a starting point. Every machine that's built needs a creator to build and start it.sensfan02

Let me ask you something, "if god made the universe then who made god"? Something had to come from NOTHING! I think it's more likely the universe came from nothing then a "magical man with a white beard" that lives in the clouds........... oh, wait he doesn't live in the clouds because clouds are just water vapor. Do you why we know that? Because of science. Without science, we would be nowhere in this world, and religion is the thing that is holding us BACK!

see that would make sense but you can not compare an elephant tale to a cedar, an elaphant tale is like a rope. And job also goes on to describe a water creature called Leviathan, not a croc or a whale, because the Hebrew language has terms for that.SEGAmaniac7

Evolution man, The crocs/alligators of today aren't the same ones the Job saw.

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[QUOTE="cd_rom"]Because the universe needs a starting point. Every machine that's built needs a creator to build and start it.cd_rom

Let me ask you something, "if god made the universe then who made god"? Something had to come from NOTHING! I think it's more likely the universe came from nothing then a "magical man with a white beard" that lives in the clouds........... oh, wait he doesn't live in the clouds because clouds are just water vapor. Do you why we know that? Because of science. Without science, we would be nowhere in this world, and religion is the thing that is holding us BACK!

[QUOTE="cd_rom"]Because the universe needs a starting point. Every machine that's built needs a creator to build and start it.sensfan02

Let me ask you something, "if god made the universe then who made god"? Something had to come from NOTHING! I think it's more likely the universe came from nothing then a "magical man with a white beard" that lives in the clouds........... oh, wait he doesn't live in the clouds because clouds are just water vapor. Do you why we know that? Because of science. Without science, we would be nowhere in this world, and religion is the thing that is holding us BACK!

[QUOTE="SEGAmaniac7"] see that would make sense but you can not compare an elephant tale to a cedar, an elaphant tale is like a rope. And job also goes on to describe a water creature called Leviathan, not a croc or a whale, because the Hebrew language has terms for that.v13_KiiLtz

Evolution man, The crocs/alligators of today aren't the same ones the Job saw.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="SEGAmaniac7"]

heres the actual verse Behold now, Behemoth, which I made as well as you; He eats grass like an ox. Behold now, his strength in his loins, And his power in the muscles of his belly. He bends his tail like a cedar; The sinews of his thighs are knit together. His bones are tubes of bronze; His limbs are like bars of iron. (Job 40:15–18) Im not saying its for sure a dinosaur but its definatly not a croc, its something bigger

SEGAmaniac7

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[QUOTE="cd_rom"]Because the universe needs a starting point. Every machine that's built needs a creator to build and start it.cd_rom

Let me ask you something, "if god made the universe then who made god"? Something had to come from NOTHING! I think it's more likely the universe came from nothing then a "magical man with a white beard" that lives in the clouds........... oh, wait he doesn't live in the clouds because clouds are just water vapor. Do you why we know that? Because of science. Without science, we would be nowhere in this world, and religion is the thing that is holding us BACK!

You didn't. I was just saying back in the day people thought god lived in the clouds, but now we know it's not true. Also, the the universe or god, one of those two, had to come from nothing.

Number 2-generally believe

Sure I went to bible school when I was a kid, but I retained nothing.:P

Went for the cookies and games. Didn't hardly influence me.

[QUOTE="SEGAmaniac7"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] Elephant, then.Theokhoth

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[QUOTE="SEGAmaniac7"] see that would make sense but you can not compare an elephant tale to a cedar, an elaphant tale is like a rope. And job also goes on to describe a water creature called Leviathan, not a croc or a whale, because the Hebrew language has terms for that.SEGAmaniac7

Evolution man, The crocs/alligators of today aren't the same ones the Job saw.

I like to think there is more then just randomization .

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[QUOTE="SEGAmaniac7"] see that would make sense but you can not compare an elephant tale to a cedar, an elaphant tale is like a rope. And job also goes on to describe a water creature called Leviathan, not a croc or a whale, because the Hebrew language has terms for that.SEGAmaniac7

not all dinosaurs are HUGE, but the one job describes seems more than an elephant or hippo,

"his power in the muscles of his belly. He bends his tail like a cedar; The sinews of his thighs are knit together. His bones are tubes of bronze; His limbs are like bars of iron"

Its something powerful thats all I know,

not all dinosaurs are HUGE, but the one job describes seems more than an elephant or hippo,

"his power in the muscles of his belly. He bends his tail like a cedar; The sinews of his thighs are knit together. His bones are tubes of bronze; His limbs are like bars of iron"

Its something powerful thats all I know,

SEGAmaniac7

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not all dinosaurs are HUGE, but the one job describes seems more than an elephant or hippo,

"his power in the muscles of his belly. He bends his tail like a cedar; The sinews of his thighs are knit together. His bones are tubes of bronze; His limbs are like bars of iron"

Its something powerful thats all I know,

HoolaHoopMan

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="SEGAmaniac7"]

not all dinosaurs are HUGE, but the one job describes seems more than an elephant or hippo,

"his power in the muscles of his belly. He bends his tail like a cedar; The sinews of his thighs are knit together. His bones are tubes of bronze; His limbs are like bars of iron"

Its something powerful thats all I know,

SEGAmaniac7

People generally believe in fiction to fill the gap of the unknown.

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="SEGAmaniac7"]

not all dinosaurs are HUGE, but the one job describes seems more than an elephant or hippo,

"his power in the muscles of his belly. He bends his tail like a cedar; The sinews of his thighs are knit together. His bones are tubes of bronze; His limbs are like bars of iron"

Its something powerful thats all I know,

SEGAmaniac7

Are you serious?!

What ever floats your boat, I guess?

People generally believe in fiction to fill the gap of the unknown.

NVIDIATI

WOW! *HIGH FIVE* You are so right.

People generally believe in fiction to fill the gap of the unknown.

NVIDIATI

I cant deny that, its very true. But its not unknown people just chose to be ignorant and totally disregard something else and keep telling themselves they are right.

[QUOTE="SEGAmaniac7"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"] Are you actually suggesting that dinosaurs lived thousands of years ago? sensfan02

Are you serious?!

What ever floats your boat, I guess?

See I dont like talking to uneducated people like you who completely disregard opposing views and are so close minded. I do believe a lot of science is true, it explains many things and I totally agree with a lot of it. But not evolution, there is no real evidence, fossils bones mean nothing, theory's are just theory's, yea I believe in micro-evolution, over times creatures change adaptions but no, a creature can not turn into human and then reproduce and create more humans, its impossible. SEGAmaniac7

Yeah what would i know, it's not like I have a bachelor's and master's in science.

[QUOTE="v13_KiiLtz"][QUOTE="SEGAmaniac7"] See I dont like talking to uneducated people like you who completely disregard opposing views and are so close minded. I do believe a lot of science is true, it explains many things and I totally agree with a lot of it. But not evolution, there is no real evidence, fossils bones mean nothing, theory's are just theory's, yea I believe in micro-evolution, over times creatures change adaptions but no, a creature can not turn into human and then reproduce and create more humans, its impossible. SEGAmaniac7

There's proof....... it's called bones. You know we can tell how old bones are, right? And, there has been evidence found that suggests dinosaurs were alive millions of years ago.

i don't believe or not believe in God. i am agnostic.

People generally believe in fiction to fill the gap of the unknown.

NVIDIATI

People generally believe in fiction to fill the gap of the unknown.

[QUOTE="ProjectTrinity"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

People generally believe in fiction to fill the gap of the unknown.

NVIDIATI

[QUOTE="SEGAmaniac7"][QUOTE="v13_KiiLtz"] So you'd rather beleive that dinosaurs walked the earth a thousand years ago, despite that they've been proven to be extinct a long, long, long time ago than accept the idea that maybe some of them evolved?HoolaHoopMan

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"][QUOTE="ProjectTrinity"] And there ends the streak of intelligent posts.gaming25

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] Prove me wrong.NVIDIATI

I don't believe in the Abrahamic god or any fatherly figure in the heavens, ratherI believe in an intelligence far superior than ourselves .

My reason for believing in this intelligence is because when you look at what we & the universe with it's infinite gases are made up of, these atoms and it's protons electrons and such & such, you find that we're made up of absolutely 0 matter. So i view it in that we are just a thought, an idea being expressed by this higher intelligence you would probably call god and the gift this 'god' gave us is to express consciousness, experience Life and what we feel and to ultimately realize that we are all the same in the end. A part of this divine entity. In it's image we are made to be conscious of who we are. God.

Probably a little bit of all of the above. Mostly self security, it's kind of depressing to think that there's nothing beyond life as we know it. I think at this point, I'm hopingrather than fully believing.I'm not entirely sure of what I fully think about it, to be honest, and I don't debate this issue very much with myself anymore.

The Bible, God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit to put it simply solves the mystery of life for me. That is my proof of why I believe, but beyond that I like carrying Jesus with me just like I enjoy wearing a Celtic Cross upon my neck. I cannot turn my back on Divine truth.

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[QUOTE="gaming25"] People believe for various reasons. And calling it "fiction" is insensitive and ignorant.ProjectTrinity

[QUOTE="ProjectTrinity"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] Telling me there is a creator is not insensitive and ignorant too? Or is religion leaps and bounds above everyone else?

NVIDIATI

[QUOTE="SEGAmaniac7"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"] So you disregard scientific evidence in favor of a book written by man with vague passages about "cedar trees" then? testfactor888

Evolution is total BS and is something Science has yet to prove, just like the Big Bang. Both are nothing more than conjecture.

[QUOTE="testfactor888"][QUOTE="SEGAmaniac7"] See I dont like talking to uneducated people like you who completely disregard opposing views and are so close minded. I do believe a lot of science is true, it explains many things and I totally agree with a lot of it. But not evolution, there is no real evidence, fossils bones mean nothing, theory's are just theory's, yea I believe in micro-evolution, over times creatures change adaptions but no, a creature can not turn into human and then reproduce and create more humans, its impossible. VisigothSaxon

Evolution is total BS and is something Science has yet to prove, just like the Big Bang. Both are nothing more than conjecture.

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[QUOTE="testfactor888"] Calling him uneducated is ironic in this instanceProjectTrinity

Evolution is total BS and is something Science has yet to prove, just like the Big Bang. Both are nothing more than conjecture.

The proof being that Evolution and the Big Bang are not scientific fact. Regardless of how strongly scientists believe in it, they have yet to prove it as fact.

Evolution is total BS VisigothSaxon