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How in the hell did this topic turn into a discussion on myths about women ruining the world?Theokhoth
I think someone mentioned something about everyone being born a sinner. :lol:
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]How in the hell did this topic turn into a discussion on myths about women ruining the world?Dark_Knight6
I think someone mentioned something about everyone being born a sinner. :lol:
Well, I suppose it is true that it wouldn't have happened if God made Adam and Steve.
i would make him straight. iam2green
...Or make him hate you. Considering you can't become straight, the two must by synonymous.
How in the hell did this topic turn into a discussion on myths about women ruining the world?Theokhoth
Don't tell me your on their side.
[QUOTE="iam2green"]i would make him straight. Dark_Knight6
...Or make him hate you. Considering you can't become straight, the two must by synonymous.
Force him to marry a women and after 36 years of happy marriage with 3 kids he has to break the news to her... Their world falls apart! Great story! Sounds like a lifetime movie![QUOTE="Genetic_Code"][QUOTE="Parandrus"]Do you mean the act of gay sex is misconduct?ParandrusCorrect. That's true with any sexual act. So, all sex is misconduct? What about sex for the purpose of procreation? I'm assuming that's the one that you're okay with.
I think you're seriously misreading him.
[QUOTE="clembo1990"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Oh. I thought Christianity was cool with being gay considering Jesus was, he was always kind of happy. As for Homosexuals, yep its even in the ten commandments "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour." can spell the words: "gays are sinners". You have to read between the lines when talking about the Bible.original sin. It's arguements like these that really test your 'tolerance'.
buldog300
Jesus was happy, when it was time to enjoy life. His first miracle was turning water into wine, but he also knew when to put away being happy and tell people when they are behaving inappropriately. that's what one can admire about jesus, he didn't hesitate to call sinners what they were.
Actually, you left out quite a few letters, but we're kinda steering away from the main question here. My son, however, should 'honor his mother and father' and if his father disagrees with sexual misconduct (what goes on in his house is entirely different than what goes on in mine), he should not bring any bfs home or behave permiscously, atleast not until he's off to college.
Point 1: children are innocent. That's something I believe and have no justification for believing other than psychology which is subjective at best. Everybody on the planet is either a child or a bigger version of a child, whatever happened to them then shapes who they are now. If they were done wrong onto, they will compensate by taking things back from the world, not caring using the past as justifaction for the present. Morally, we all sin. Pobody's Nefect, it goose without seeying. But you can't say a blank slate is wrong because there's nothing written on it, you can't even say its wrong if it said "1+1=0" because its all just words given meaning while we assess the meaning with the voice in our heads with other words with other attributed meaning. It all gets a bit silly, really, everything when you label something as wrong or right. Point 2: That's understandable. But in the UK we say : "16 and you're ripe for th' pickin'."Well, I suppose it is true that it wouldn't have happened if God made Adam and Steve.
Theokhoth
That is, unless Steve thought that sliced fruit would go great in a tossed salad. :P
So, all sex is misconduct? What about sex for the purpose of procreation? I'm assuming that's the one that you're okay with.ParandrusWell, I should clarify that ban on sexual misconduct is when he is living dependently. Once he moves out and becomes independent, he can do whatever he so desires.
So, all sex is misconduct? What about sex for the purpose of procreation? I'm assuming that's the one that you're okay with.[QUOTE="Parandrus"][QUOTE="Genetic_Code"] Correct. That's true with any sexual act.Theokhoth
I think you're seriously misreading him.
Probably. I've been so confused today. I might have to sign off and just resume tomorrow.The person who made this thread should't have kids at all.
I'd be accepting and proud of him no matter what.
[QUOTE="Parandrus"]So, all sex is misconduct? What about sex for the purpose of procreation? I'm assuming that's the one that you're okay with.Genetic_CodeWell, I should clarify that ban on sexual misconduct is when he is living dependently. Once he moves out and becomes independent, he can do whatever he so desires. Oh, I see what you're saying. My apologies.
If you would disown your child because they're gay then maybe you should avoid having kids.Bloodbath_87Well that's not exactly fair. Most people have children to carry out their legacy or create someone in their own image. If you wanted a split image of yourself, wouldn't you be hurt by the differences? It's similar to a football loving father being disappointing in his son who hates sports.
Oh, I see what you're saying. My apologies.ParandrusNo problem.
I wouldn't do anything, but what a disgrace it would be -- I'd respect him and point him in the direction in which is acceptable to society.Stevo_the_gamerSociety has been partially to blame for the acceptance of homosexuals, for clarity's sake.
I wouldn't do anything, but what a disgrace it would be -- I'd respect him and point him in the direction in which is acceptable to society.Stevo_the_gamerIf by "society" you mean "traditionalist asses who couldn't tell a skype from an internet because they're so out of touch" then you'd be right. It gets to a point where society doesn't actually matter (ie. who someone decides to have sex with).
[QUOTE="bigfatcrap"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]How in the hell did this topic turn into a discussion on myths about women ruining the world?Theokhoth
Don't tell me your on their side.
My on their side what?
Damn. Erm. . .stop changing the subject!
If you're still lacking the maturity to embrace your own child, regardless, then you shouldn't be reproducing.bugtripSo true.
How in the hell did this topic turn into a discussion on myths about women ruining the world?TheokhothDigression... I am led to believe you like this a lot.
[QUOTE="Bloodbath_87"]If you would disown your child because they're gay then maybe you should avoid having kids.buldog300Well that's not exactly fair. Most people have children to carry out their legacy or create someone in their own image. If you wanted a split image of yourself, wouldn't you be hurt by the differences? It's similar to a football loving father being disappointing in his son who hates sports. Its perfectly fair, why would you even think to have kids if there is a possibility you would disown them? For your legecy? Wanting a kid to continie your legacy is acceptable I suppose, but if they fail to do so, you should support them reguardless. Or else you should not be having children.
[QUOTE="buldog300"][QUOTE="Bloodbath_87"]If you would disown your child because they're gay then maybe you should avoid having kids.xXInsomniacXxWell that's not exactly fair. Most people have children to carry out their legacy or create someone in their own image. If you wanted a split image of yourself, wouldn't you be hurt by the differences? It's similar to a football loving father being disappointing in his son who hates sports. Its perfectly fair, why would you even think to have kids if there is a possibility you would disown them? For your legecy? Wanting a kid to continie your legacy is acceptable I suppose, but if they fail to do so, you should support them reguardless. Or else you should not be having children.
So are you prolife then? Did you support Sarah Palin not terminating her Child with downs syndrome?
[QUOTE="Bloodbath_87"]If you would disown your child because they're gay then maybe you should avoid having kids.buldog300Well that's not exactly fair. Most people have children to carry out their legacy or create someone in their own image. If you wanted a split image of yourself, wouldn't you be hurt by the differences? It's similar to a football loving father being disappointing in his son who hates sports. A football loving dad who disowns his son because he doesn't like the sport is someone else who should avoid having kids.
[QUOTE="buldog300"][QUOTE="Bloodbath_87"]If you would disown your child because they're gay then maybe you should avoid having kids.Bloodbath_87Well that's not exactly fair. Most people have children to carry out their legacy or create someone in their own image. If you wanted a split image of yourself, wouldn't you be hurt by the differences? It's similar to a football loving father being disappointing in his son who hates sports. A football loving dad who disowns his son because he doesn't like the sport is someone else who should avoid having kids.
Ah, but what is the fine line between disowning and disapproving of. You raise a child until they're 18 or legally imancipated, no question, but do you have to support his choices, do you have to tolerate his actions, permicsious or otherwise unpleasantly intended?
Its perfectly fair, why would you even think to have kids if there is a possibility you would disown them? For your legecy? Wanting a kid to continie your legacy is acceptable I suppose, but if they fail to do so, you should support them reguardless. Or else you should not be having children.[QUOTE="xXInsomniacXx"][QUOTE="buldog300"] Well that's not exactly fair. Most people have children to carry out their legacy or create someone in their own image. If you wanted a split image of yourself, wouldn't you be hurt by the differences? It's similar to a football loving father being disappointing in his son who hates sports. buldog300
So are you prolife then? Did you support Sarah Palin not terminating her Child with downs syndrome?
I'm an atheist liberal. But as for abortion, I believe it should only be conducted within three months of pregnancy. Any longer then that, and I believe the child has a right to happiness, along with everyone else.[QUOTE="buldog300"][QUOTE="xXInsomniacXx"] Its perfectly fair, why would you even think to have kids if there is a possibility you would disown them? For your legecy? Wanting a kid to continie your legacy is acceptable I suppose, but if they fail to do so, you should support them reguardless. Or else you should not be having children. xXInsomniacXx
So are you prolife then? Did you support Sarah Palin not terminating her Child with downs syndrome?
I'm an atheist liberal. But as for abortion, I believe it should only be conducted within three months of pregnancy. Any longer then that, and I believe the child has a right to happiness, along with everyone else.you and 50000 other OT posters between 3 forums. If your killing any life because it might not potentially be in the image you want, or might not have a perfect life, isn't that just as bad as disowning a son, who in all likelyhood will be mistreated for being homosexual in his life? Are you not essentially banishing the unwated child?
[QUOTE="xXInsomniacXx"][QUOTE="buldog300"]I'm an atheist liberal. But as for abortion, I believe it should only be conducted within three months of pregnancy. Any longer then that, and I believe the child has a right to happiness, along with everyone else.So are you prolife then? Did you support Sarah Palin not terminating her Child with downs syndrome?
buldog300
you and 50000 other OT posters between 3 forums. If your killing any life because it might not potentially be in the image you want, or might not have a perfect life, isn't that just as bad as disowning a son, who in all likelyhood will be mistreated for being homosexual in his life? Are you not essentially banishing the unwated child?
Not exactly,You shouldn't intentionally have a child if there is the slightest possibility you will not accept him/her for who they are. If the child will be a product of rape or simple immaturity then it is a different story entirely.
A football loving dad who disowns his son because he doesn't like the sport is someone else who should avoid having kids.[QUOTE="Bloodbath_87"][QUOTE="buldog300"] Well that's not exactly fair. Most people have children to carry out their legacy or create someone in their own image. If you wanted a split image of yourself, wouldn't you be hurt by the differences? It's similar to a football loving father being disappointing in his son who hates sports. buldog300
Ah, but what is the fine line between disowning and disapproving of. You raise a child until they're 18 or legally imancipated, no question, but do you have to support his choices, do you have to tolerate his actions, permicsious or otherwise unpleasantly intended?
There is a huge difference between disowning and disapproving of. I was talking about disowning in my post...[QUOTE="buldog300"][QUOTE="Bloodbath_87"] I'm an atheist liberal. But as for abortion, I believe it should only be conducted within three months of pregnancy. Any longer then that, and I believe the child has a right to happiness, along with everyone else. Bloodbath_87
you and 50000 other OT posters between 3 forums. If your killing any life because it might not potentially be in the image you want, or might not have a perfect life, isn't that just as bad as disowning a son, who in all likelyhood will be mistreated for being homosexual in his life? Are you not essentially banishing the unwated child?
Not exactly,You shouldn't intentionally have a child if there is the slightest possibility you will not accept him/her for who they are. If the child will be a product of rape or simple immaturity then it is a different story entirely.
But there's always a possibility you will not accept a child for who they are. What if they become rapists themselves, or drug dealers, or gang bangers? You wouldn't accpet people who behave in such a manner when we live ina behaved society. your an atheist, so chances are you live by the law that anything that can happen, will happen in this or another universe.
But then again I am one to talk. I believe everyone should live by the philosophy that if you can't feed em, you shouldn't breed em.[QUOTE="buldog300"][QUOTE="Bloodbath_87"] A football loving dad who disowns his son because he doesn't like the sport is someone else who should avoid having kids.Bloodbath_87
Ah, but what is the fine line between disowning and disapproving of. You raise a child until they're 18 or legally imancipated, no question, but do you have to support his choices, do you have to tolerate his actions, permicsious or otherwise unpleasantly intended?
There is a huge difference between disowning and disapproving of. I was talking about disowning in my post...and what is, on your own words, disowning? disassociation, abandonment? What exactly?
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