Iran threatens USA

[QUOTE="WitIsWisdom"]

If push came to shove we would have help from a lot of other countries including Canada, UK, Germany, Japan, France, Poland, South Korea, India, Pakistan... should I go on?

imaps3fanboy

You do know that there are brave Canadian, Polish, and French soldiers helping out in Afghanistan.

If push came to shove we would have help from a lot of other countries including Canada, UK, Germany, Japan, France, Poland, South Korea, India, Pakistan... should I go on?

WitIsWisdom

Unless a serious war where a serious evil is in this world and a serious war is occuring, Canada, Germany, Poland, South Korea, and Pakistan may just give us supplies and send a few troops.

India has always had military ties with the Soviet Union, and now Russia. Many of their military supplies are Russian. Besides, I don't think India would jump in, unless China really did something.

I can see the UK and Israel really jumping in with us.

If push came to shove we would have help from a lot of other countries including Canada, UK, Germany, Japan, France, Poland, South Korea, India, Pakistan... should I go on?

WitIsWisdom

Canada- Nope, we are a peacekeeping army. Thats why we refused to into Iraq.

UK-Maybe, if it broke out into a world war, i bet the EU would dodge this bullet

Germany- do you really want the germans to get excited with their guns again?!

Japan- Has no Army due to WW2 restrictions

France- no way in hell

Poland- might send supplys, but won't fight

South Korea- No, they wouldn't risk weakening their border with North Korea to fight in a place they have no interest in

India- most likley will attack pakistan than help you

Pakistan- most liley will attack India than help you

Please, go on.

[QUOTE="WitIsWisdom"]

If push came to shove we would have help from a lot of other countries including Canada, UK, Germany, Japan, France, Poland, South Korea, India, Pakistan... should I go on?

imaps3fanboy

Don't undersetimate India's military. They are very strong and well trained. They have the third biggest military in size too.

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="WitIsWisdom"]

If push came to shove we would have help from a lot of other countries including Canada, UK, Germany, Japan, France, Poland, South Korea, India, Pakistan... should I go on?

SgtKevali

You do know that there are brave Canadian, Polish, and French soldiers helping out in Afghanistan.

edit: Excluding India. They are powerful.

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="WitIsWisdom"]

If push came to shove we would have help from a lot of other countries including Canada, UK, Germany, Japan, France, Poland, South Korea, India, Pakistan... should I go on?

You do know that there are brave Canadian, Polish, and French soldiers helping out in Afghanistan.

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="WitIsWisdom"]

If push came to shove we would have help from a lot of other countries including Canada, UK, Germany, Japan, France, Poland, South Korea, India, Pakistan... should I go on?

taj7575

Don't undersetimate India's military. They are very strong and well trained. They have the third biggest military in size too.

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] Canada?! France?! Poland?! India?! Pakistan?! Are you kidding me?!lordreaven

You do know that there are brave Canadian, Polish, and French soldiers helping out in Afghanistan.

So?

Canada- Nope, we are a peacekeeping army. Thats why we refused to into Iraq.

UK-Maybe, if it broke out into a world war, i bet the EU would dodge this bullet

Germany- do you really want the germans to get excited with their guns again?!

Japan- Has no Army due to WW2 restrictions

France- no way in hell

Poland- might send supplys, but won't fight

South Korea- No, they wouldn't risk weakening their border with North Korea to fight in a place they have no interest in

India- most likley will attack pakistan than help you

Pakistan- most liley will attack India than help you

Please, go on.

lordreaven

Hmmm...I guess you've never heard of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, of which Canada is a member. If the US is attacked, Canada, like most of the European Union, is obliged to come to our aid. It's a treaty obligation, you know.

Canada?! France?! Poland?! India?! Pakistan?! Are you kidding me?!imaps3fanboy

You do know that there are brave Canadian, Polish, and French soldiers helping out in Afghanistan.

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] Canada?! France?! Poland?! India?! Pakistan?! Are you kidding me?!imaps3fanboy

Don't undersetimate India's military. They are very strong and well trained. They have the third biggest military in size too.

They won't. That's not to say they will help the other side either. They wouldn't be on either side.

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] Canada?! France?! Poland?! India?! Pakistan?! Are you kidding me?!imaps3fanboy

You do know that there are brave Canadian, Polish, and French soldiers helping out in Afghanistan.

edit: Excluding India. They are powerful.

[QUOTE="lordreaven"]

Canada- Nope, we are a peacekeeping army. Thats why we refused to into Iraq.

UK-Maybe, if it broke out into a world war, i bet the EU would dodge this bullet

Germany- do you really want the germans to get excited with their guns again?!

Japan- Has no Army due to WW2 restrictions

France- no way in hell

Poland- might send supplys, but won't fight

South Korea- No, they wouldn't risk weakening their border with North Korea to fight in a place they have no interest in

India- most likley will attack pakistan than help you

Pakistan- most liley will attack India than help you

Please, go on.

Hmmm...I guess you've never heard of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, of which Canada is a member. If the US is attacked, Canada, like most of the European Union, is obliged to come to our aid. It's a treaty obligation, you know.

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="Bluestorm-Kalas"]I think that if you American's end up getting yourself nuked, you better not let it cross the northern border into Canada. I like my life, and I'm only 15 miles out of the border.UserBane

Besides wat do you Canadians have to lose? Meese?

[QUOTE="WitIsWisdom"]

If push came to shove we would have help from a lot of other countries including Canada, UK, Germany, Japan, France, Poland, South Korea, India, Pakistan... should I go on?

imaps3fanboy

You must not know a whole lot about history of warfare or military strengths huh? Oh, and I figured you would have said Japan before mentioning any of the others seeing as though we hold the power to reinact military power in Japan anytime we wish. All the other countries I listed add numbers, and many of the countries I listed have special forces and training that the countries you think are so powerful counldnt even imagine. Canada has some of the highest trained special forces in the world. India and Pakistan add another important aspect numbers. Do you even know anything about Poland or South Korea? France also has a formidable force even though they always mange to get their ass kicked. Oh, and on another note Russia would probably side with the US if WW3 broke out, not Iran.

What else is new? I don't think they're actually stupid or crazy enough to try a direct assault on the US. They wouldn't last long.

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

You do know that there are brave Canadian, Polish, and French soldiers helping out in Afghanistan.

Dylan_11

edit: Excluding India. They are powerful.

I know of the treaty, but Since this scenario involves the US attacking Iran, the treaty becomes void. And i'm pretty sure most european countrys would rather sit it out than fight again.lordreaven

Oh, well that makes a little more sense, but I was under the impression that the scenario involved Iran attacking the US. I didn't realize that there was a side conversation.

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="WitIsWisdom"]

If push came to shove we would have help from a lot of other countries including Canada, UK, Germany, Japan, France, Poland, South Korea, India, Pakistan... should I go on?

You must not know a whole lot about history of warfare or military strengths huh? Oh, and I figured you would have said Japan before mentioning any of the others seeing as though we hold the power to reinact military power in Japan anytime we wish. All the other countries I listed add numbers, and many of the countries I listed have special forces and training that the countries you think are so powerful counldnt even imagine. Canada has some of the highest trained special forces in the world. India and Pakistan add another important aspect numbers. Do you even know anything about Poland or South Korea? France also has a formidable force even though they always mange to get their ass kicked. Oh, and on another note Russia would probably side with the US if WW3 broke out, not Iran.

[QUOTE="Dylan_11"][QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] Yeah, but he is saying it like they are going to be a massive help, when in fact, they would have very little impact, unless they gave us aid.

edit: Excluding India. They are powerful.

imaps3fanboy

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="Dylan_11"]They would have very little impact because.....?Dylan_11

If a war of that magnitude broke out many treaties would be broken. So, all of you flag burning hippies can run for the borders if it comes down to it. Oh, and after the dust settles and the US is still standing keep you asses where you ran off to. Oh, and whoever said anything about the US attacking Iran first? Like the Government cant cover that crap up... lol. Do you really think Canada wouldnt be onboard with the US if **** hit the fan and the US got attacked? LOL you guys crack me up...

[QUOTE="lordreaven"] I know of the treaty, but Since this scenario involves the US attacking Iran, the treaty becomes void. And i'm pretty sure most european countrys would rather sit it out than fight again.dkrustyklown

Oh, well that makes a little more sense, but I was under the impression that the scenario involved Iran attacking the US. I didn't realize that there was a side conversation.

All of those countries, except india, are small, meaning their military's would probably not have a whole lot of people.imaps3fanboy

Why do you say that France is small? It's a country of 62 million people with an advanced military. I wouldn't regard France as "small".

I can't believe this has reached 9 pages. Iran threatens us and other powers all the time. This isn't exactly major news.

If a war of that magnitude broke out many treaties would be broken. So, all of you flag burning hippies can run for the borders if it comes down to it. Oh, and after the dust settles and the US is still standing keep you asses where you ran off to. Oh, and whoever said anything about the US attacking Iran first? Like the Government cant cover that crap up... lol. Do you really think Canada wouldnt be onboard with the US if **** hit the fan and the US got attacked? LOL you guys crack me up...

WitIsWisdom

I can't believe this has reached 9 pages. Iran threatens us and other powers all the time. This isn't exactly major news.

Pirate700

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] All of those countries, except india, are small, meaning their military's would probably not have a whole lot of people.dkrustyklown

Why do you say that France is small? It's a country of 62 million people with an advanced military. I wouldn't regard France as "small".

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I can't believe this has reached 9 pages. Iran threatens us and other powers all the time. This isn't exactly major news.

lordreaven

[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I can't believe this has reached 9 pages. Iran threatens us and other powers all the time. This isn't exactly major news.

[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I can't believe this has reached 9 pages. Iran threatens us and other powers all the time. This isn't exactly major news.

Pirate700

They shouldn't be kissing our butts. Look to the past of Iran; we screwed them over. Now it's worse that they have Israel to worry about.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="lordreaven"] Very true. The only reason i joined the topic was to remind what would happen if the US went on the offensive, or if Israel went of the offensive.taj7575

They shouldn't be kissing our butts. Look to the past of Iran; we screwed them over. Now it's worse that they have Israel to worry about.

Nope, Iran threatend retaliation if attacked. And if Iran is attacked, russias treaty with Iran activates and automaticly declares war with whoever attcked them. And if was the US attacking first, the nato treaty becomes void even if russia joins. As teh US is considered the attacker.lordreaven

Well, I don't think that the US would attack Iran first. However, lets just say that the US wanted to attack Iran. I imagine that before doing so, the US would try to get its ducks in a row by convincing the Russians and Chinese to void any mutual protection agreements with Iran. It would take some incentives, but would be possible. Sure, China buys a lot of oil from Iran, and they would hate to lose out on that, but they also know that they can continue purchasing oil from other sources. Without its own domestic source of oil, China is at the mercy of the sea lanes, which the US navy could effectively shut down. China's economy still depends heavily on the US consumer market. China would have to weigh several costs. On the one hand, they can come to Iran's defense, which would mean they would lose access to practically all of the world's oil (no pipelines going into China) and they would lose access to the US market. On the other hand, they can sacrifice Iran and buy oil from other sources while continuing to export to the US. I don't think that it is a difficult decision from a Chinese perspective.

Russia would be the tough one to convince. Russia has plenty of oil and would need a hefty incentive (although the mere fact that an attack on Iran would shut down the trade in neareastern oil might be enough, since the price of crude would skyrocket and Russia would have much to gain from such an event).

I think that it all comes down to just how committed the Russians and Chinese are to Iran. Are they willing to fight WW3 for Iran? I don't think that they are.

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]What's ironic is Iran should be kissing our butts. We're the only reason Israel hasn't destroyed them a long time ago.

Pirate700

They shouldn't be kissing our butts. Look to the past of Iran; we screwed them over. Now it's worse that they have Israel to worry about.

I don't know what to make of this whole Iran vs. the US feud. I mean, the Americans are always acting arrogant and cocky when someone threatens them, but when the **** hits the fan and they get bombed (9/11 for starters), they whine for ages.

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]What's ironic is Iran should be kissing our butts. We're the only reason Israel hasn't destroyed them a long time ago.

Pirate700

They shouldn't be kissing our butts. Look to the past of Iran; we screwed them over. Now it's worse that they have Israel to worry about.

We shouldnt even be in this situation with Iran in the first place, and the fact that Israel even considers this, considering Iran is as much of a threat as a fly shows you really shows you how nice these countries' are eh? Again, I hate defending Iran, but they are the ones getting screwed over here.

I don't know what to make of this whole Iran vs. the US feud. I mean, the Americans are always acting arrogant and cocky when someone threatens them, but when the **** hits the fan and they get bombed (9/11 for starters), they whine for ages.

Osaka-06

....What do you mean?

I don't know what to make of this whole Iran vs. the US feud. I mean, the Americans are always acting arrogant and cocky when someone threatens them, but when the **** hits the fan and they get bombed (9/11 for starters), they whine for ages.

Osaka-06

[QUOTE="Osaka-06"]

I don't know what to make of this whole Iran vs. the US feud. I mean, the Americans are always acting arrogant and cocky when someone threatens them, but when the **** hits the fan and they get bombed (9/11 for starters), they whine for ages.

imaps3fanboy

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="Osaka-06"]

I don't know what to make of this whole Iran vs. the US feud. I mean, the Americans are always acting arrogant and cocky when someone threatens them, but when the **** hits the fan and they get bombed (9/11 for starters), they whine for ages.

Osaka-06

Of course we, as you say, "whined" about it...Our country got attacked. What did you want us to do? "Oh gee, two of the biggest buildings in the world were taken down in once of the biggest cities in the world, lets just forget about it..". 9/11 was not a joke. Go watch some videos, maybe you'll learn a bit about what happened and how big the situation actually was..

Yes, some Americans are ignorant about other countries. This thread shows a big part of it. But the fact is you will find that in every country. Saying all Americans ignorant is pathetic and completely wrong. The problem with some Americans is that they don't look to the past, or are just completely ignorant to some areas that they don't get along with. That happens with every country, especially when it's a country we are known not to get along with...Some people will just naturally have a bad opinion.

[QUOTE="lordreaven"] Nope, Iran threatend retaliation if attacked. And if Iran is attacked, russias treaty with Iran activates and automaticly declares war with whoever attcked them. And if was the US attacking first, the nato treaty becomes void even if russia joins. As teh US is considered the attacker.dkrustyklown

Well, I don't think that the US would attack Iran first. However, lets just say that the US wanted to attack Iran. I imagine that before doing so, the US would try to get its ducks in a row by convincing the Russians and Chinese to void any mutual protection agreements with Iran. It would take some incentives, but would be possible. Sure, China buys a lot of oil from Iran, and they would hate to lose out on that, but they also know that they can continue purchasing oil from other sources. Without its own domestic source of oil, China is at the mercy of the sea lanes, which the US navy could effectively shut down. China's economy still depends heavily on the US consumer market. China would have to weigh several costs. On the one hand, they can come to Iran's defense, which would mean they would lose access to practically all of the world's oil (no pipelines going into China) and they would lose access to the US market. On the other hand, they can sacrifice Iran and buy oil from other sources while continuing to export to the US. I don't think that it is a difficult decision from a Chinese perspective.

Russia would be the tough one to convince. Russia has plenty of oil and would need a hefty incentive (although the mere fact that an attack on Iran would shut down the trade in neareastern oil might be enough, since the price of crude would skyrocket and Russia would have much to gain from such an event).

I think that it all comes down to just how committed the Russians and Chinese are to Iran. Are they willing to fight WW3 for Iran? I don't think that they are.

[QUOTE="Osaka-06"][QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] So many things wrong. First of all we didn't get bombed in 9/11 Lol.. 2nd of all we didn't whine about it. 3rd of all. Us and the U.N are constantly trying to get a treaty or whatnot signed with Iran. We are not cocky and arrogant, and next give examples. taj7575

Of course we, as you say, "whined" about it...Our country got attacked. What did you want us to do? "Oh gee, two of the biggest buildings in the world were taken down in once of the biggest cities in the world, lets just forget about it..". 9/11 was not a joke. Go watch some videos, maybe you'll learn a bit about what happened and how big the occasion actually was..

Yes, some Americans are ignorant about other countries. This thread shows a big part of it. But the fact is you will find that in every country. Saying all Americans ignorant is pathetic and completely wrong. The problem with some Americans is that they don't look to the past, or are just completely ignorant to some areas that they don't get along with. That happens with every country, especially when it's a country we are known not to get along with...Some people will just naturally have a bad opinion.

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]What's ironic is Iran should be kissing our butts. We're the only reason Israel hasn't destroyed them a long time ago.

They shouldn't be kissing our butts. Look to the past of Iran; we screwed them over. Now it's worse that they have Israel to worry about.

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="Osaka-06"] Bombed...attacked. Call it what you want. Ehm, yes you did...really bad. And all I have to do is to look in this thread for the attitude I mentioned. Yo ucan see several examples of this on the first page. I wouldn't normally consider that valid examples of America's attitude if it wasn't for the fact that every single American I've met in real life have had the exact same opinion and cocky attitude in regards to Iran, North Korea and other suchs problems.Osaka-06

Of course we, as you say, "whined" about it...Our country got attacked. What did you want us to do? "Oh gee, two of the biggest buildings in the world were taken down in once of the biggest cities in the world, lets just forget about it..". 9/11 was not a joke. Go watch some videos, maybe you'll learn a bit about what happened and how big the occasion actually was..

Yes, some Americans are ignorant about other countries. This thread shows a big part of it. But the fact is you will find that in every country. Saying all Americans ignorant is pathetic and completely wrong. The problem with some Americans is that they don't look to the past, or are just completely ignorant to some areas that they don't get along with. That happens with every country, especially when it's a country we are known not to get along with...Some people will just naturally have a bad opinion.

Theres no doubt that we could've prevented this (We actually could've prevented this all the way back to the end of the Soviet Afghan war..We left the Mujahedin to do what they want), but to say that that day wasn't a big deal is wrong.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

They shouldn't be kissing our butts. Look to the past of Iran; we screwed them over. Now it's worse that they have Israel to worry about.

lordreaven

Iran would never nuke them anyway...In reality Iran is very scared of Isreal...And like I've said a million times, Israel is the threat to Iran.

Iran would NEVER Nuke Israel, why? Becuase Israel holds some of Islams holyist places. Its foolish to believe a theocracy would would destroy their own holy places.lordreaven

I don't know about that. Iran could opt for low to medium yield nukes focused on the coast near Tel Aviv. That could significantly reduce Israel's population while leaving the holy sites intact.

[QUOTE="lordreaven"] Iran would NEVER Nuke Israel, why? Becuase Israel holds some of Islams holyist places. Its foolish to believe a theocracy would would destroy their own holy places.dkrustyklown

I don't know about that. Iran could opt for low to medium yield nukes focused on the coast near Tel Aviv. That could significantly reduce Israel's population while leaving the holy sites intact.

I think that if you American's end up getting yourself nuked, you better not let it cross the northern border into Canada. I like my life, and I'm only 15 miles out of the border.Bluestorm-Kalas

Duck and cover, dude. Did you know that at the time of my post, you're one away from 10,000 posts? Hopefull you'll get to have your post party before a haze of radioactive muck moves into your country from the south.

Don't they have something else better to do?magicalclick

They're having some stability issues and lashing out against the West is just a way to attempt to distract the population from internal problems. I'm not sure if the people are falling for it. They lash out so often that everyone is growing numb to it.