Iranian woman will be whipped 99 times for being in a photo with no veil

You're right. When you bring religion into government, the government has the power to do what ever they please and people can't do anything about it because defying the government would mean defying their god. But the same thing can happen with any religion.

dk00111

And to further prove my point, this is quite relevant.

[QUOTE="dk00111"]

You're right. When you bring religion into government, the government has the power to do what ever they please and people can't do anything about it because defying the government would mean defying their god. But the same thing can happen with any religion.

dk00111

And to further prove my point, this is quite relevant.

And that story only reinforces what I said earlier about Muslims and their loose definition of "waging war".

[QUOTE="doom3lv"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Just out of curiosity, what would YOU do about Islam? Whats your plan? You obviously think it's evil so what do you think should be done?

dk00111

Oh dear god. You love to defend islam don't you? Well, of course its your right. But then again, it is the right of the rest of the free world to see these brutal practices and condemn the religion.

I am sorry, but I have a feeling you are being very very blind to the side of islam that is extremely radical, and also prevalent.

You know, here is the problem. I am a Catholic. I thought about the actions of members of the Church. I almost wanted to give up religion. But then I realized, these people are not Christians.

I then looked at osama bin laden. Now I began to wonder, if I were a muslim, I would definitely want to dissociate myself from the radicals and murderers. And then I realized, if I were a muslim, I cannot dissociate myself from the radicals, the simple reason is the radicals do everything they do in the name of islam. They follow jihad, which is islam. So whether you are a radical or not, you all follow the same religion.

That is a truth you have to accept.

[QUOTE="dk00111"][QUOTE="doom3lv"]

Oh dear god. You love to defend islam don't you? Well, of course its your right. But then again, it is the right of the rest of the free world to see these brutal practices and condemn the religion.

I am sorry, but I have a feeling you are being very very blind to the side of islam that is extremely radical, and also prevalent.

doom3lv

You know, here is the problem. I am a Catholic. I thought about the actions of members of the Church. I almost wanted to give up religion. But then I realized, these people are not Christians.

I then looked at osama bin laden. Now I began to wonder, if I were a muslim, I would definitely want to dissociate myself from the radicals and murderers. And then I realized, if I were a muslim, I cannot dissociate myself from the radicals, the simple reason is the radicals do everything they do in the name of islam. They follow jihad, which is islam. So whether you are a radical or not, you all follow the same religion.

That is a truth you have to accept.

Right. Pedophiles in the Church don't molest children in the name of Christ. But Islamic terrorists are always yelling "Allahu Akbar!" as they blow themselves up.

And where are all these supposedly peaceful, moderate Muslims whenever something like this happens? I can understand why Muslims living in Iran would be afraid to speak out against jihad, but there's no excuse for the Muslims living in downtown Los Angelas. If they are truly opposed to what is being done in the name of their religion, then they have to step up and show us. But their silence has been deafening.

[QUOTE="dk00111"]

[QUOTE="dk00111"]

You're right. When you bring religion into government, the government has the power to do what ever they please and people can't do anything about it because defying the government would mean defying their god. But the same thing can happen with any religion.

Metal_Mario99

And to further prove my point, this is quite relevant.

And that story only reinforces what I said earlier about Muslims and their loose definition of "waging war".

[QUOTE="dk00111"][QUOTE="doom3lv"]

Oh dear god. You love to defend islam don't you? Well, of course its your right. But then again, it is the right of the rest of the free world to see these brutal practices and condemn the religion.

I am sorry, but I have a feeling you are being very very blind to the side of islam that is extremely radical, and also prevalent.

doom3lv

You know, here is the problem. I am a Catholic. I thought about the actions of members of the Church. I almost wanted to give up religion. But then I realized, these people are not Christians.

I then looked at osama bin laden. Now I began to wonder, if I were a muslim, I would definitely want to dissociate myself from the radicals and murderers. And then I realized, if I were a muslim, I cannot dissociate myself from the radicals, the simple reason is the radicals do everything they do in the name of islam. They follow jihad, which is islam. So whether you are a radical or not, you all follow the same religion.

That is a truth you have to accept.

[QUOTE="doom3lv"]

[QUOTE="dk00111"] Nobody is saying anything against radical Islam. I, for one, am probably more against radical Islam and theocratic Islam more than any of you here, but to judge all Muslims by their radical extremists is wrong, and that's the point I'm trying to make.Metal_Mario99

You know, here is the problem. I am a Catholic. I thought about the actions of members of the Church. I almost wanted to give up religion. But then I realized, these people are not Christians.

I then looked at osama bin laden. Now I began to wonder, if I were a muslim, I would definitely want to dissociate myself from the radicals and murderers. And then I realized, if I were a muslim, I cannot dissociate myself from the radicals, the simple reason is the radicals do everything they do in the name of islam. They follow jihad, which is islam. So whether you are a radical or not, you all follow the same religion.

That is a truth you have to accept.

Right. Pedophiles in the Church don't molest children in the name of Christ. But Islamic terrorists are always yelling "Allahu Akbar!" as they blow themselves up.

And where are all these supposedly peaceful, moderate Muslims whenever something like this happens? I can understand why Muslims living in Iran would be afraid to speak out against jihad, but there's no excuse for the Muslims living in downtown Los Angelas. If they are truly opposed to what is being done in the name of their religion, then they have to step up and show us. But their silence has been deafening.

They're there, you just don't hear about it. Here's an example.

[QUOTE="MaxPred2010"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Thats not a good example.. Nazi Germany provoked the war with the Allies through invasion... This is completely different.

Metal_Mario99

From what I've been observing, Muslims are actually doing a pretty good job of killing Jews.

99 ain't that bad....:P, On the bright side of things at least it isn't 100. Okay, I'm terrible,I'll go away now ._.

[QUOTE="doom3lv"]

All Christians follow the same religion,gaming25

Well, sort of.

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

[QUOTE="MaxPred2010"] Yeah, it is completely different.

I mean, the Nazis were white and spoke German. And instead of fantasizing about killing the Jews, they actually DID kill the Jews.

MaxPred2010

From what I've been observing, Muslims are actually doing a pretty good job of killing Jews.

He isnt telling the truth or accurate about anything.

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

[QUOTE="doom3lv"]

You know, here is the problem. I am a Catholic. I thought about the actions of members of the Church. I almost wanted to give up religion. But then I realized, these people are not Christians.

I then looked at osama bin laden. Now I began to wonder, if I were a muslim, I would definitely want to dissociate myself from the radicals and murderers. And then I realized, if I were a muslim, I cannot dissociate myself from the radicals, the simple reason is the radicals do everything they do in the name of islam. They follow jihad, which is islam. So whether you are a radical or not, you all follow the same religion.

That is a truth you have to accept.

dk00111

Right. Pedophiles in the Church don't molest children in the name of Christ. But Islamic terrorists are always yelling "Allahu Akbar!" as they blow themselves up.

And where are all these supposedly peaceful, moderate Muslims whenever something like this happens? I can understand why Muslims living in Iran would be afraid to speak out against jihad, but there's no excuse for the Muslims living in downtown Los Angelas. If they are truly opposed to what is being done in the name of their religion, then they have to step up and show us. But their silence has been deafening.

They're there, you just don't hear about it. Here's an example.

I do believe that there are humane, sensible Muslims in this world. I believe them to be the minority, however. Not all Muslims are violent terrorists, but the reason so few actually speak out against the terrorists is that they sympathize with them to a certain degree. Sure, they'd never dream of hijacking a plane and flying it into a building to kill thousands of people, but nor would they be willing to speak out against the Muslims who do engage in that sort of thing.

It's just not done.

[QUOTE="MaxPred2010"]

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

From what I've been observing, Muslims are actually doing a pretty good job of killing Jews.

gaming25

He isnt telling the truth or accurate about anything.

Sez u.

[QUOTE="doom3lv"]

[QUOTE="dk00111"] Nobody is saying anything against radical Islam. I, for one, am probably more against radical Islam and theocratic Islam more than any of you here, but to judge all Muslims by their radical extremists is wrong, and that's the point I'm trying to make.Metal_Mario99

You know, here is the problem. I am a Catholic. I thought about the actions of members of the Church. I almost wanted to give up religion. But then I realized, these people are not Christians.

I then looked at osama bin laden. Now I began to wonder, if I were a muslim, I would definitely want to dissociate myself from the radicals and murderers. And then I realized, if I were a muslim, I cannot dissociate myself from the radicals, the simple reason is the radicals do everything they do in the name of islam. They follow jihad, which is islam. So whether you are a radical or not, you all follow the same religion.

That is a truth you have to accept.

Right. Pedophiles in the Church don't molest children in the name of Christ. But Islamic terrorists are always yelling "Allahu Akbar!" as they blow themselves up.

And where are all these supposedly peaceful, moderate Muslims whenever something like this happens? I can understand why Muslims living in Iran would be afraid to speak out against jihad, but there's no excuse for the Muslims living in downtown Los Angelas. If they are truly opposed to what is being done in the name of their religion, then they have to step up and show us. But their silence has been deafening.

You know what, it just goes to show that the loyalty of muslims lies with islam, not humanity. Believe me, if my church said it was OK to hurt a gay man because it is against Christianity, I would definitely give up my religion and my Church.

So far, I have not heard of any muslims doing that.

Seriously, beating a woman because she did not wear a veil? And they complain that France shouldn't ban this the burka? Its about someone did!

[QUOTE="dk00111"]

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

Right. Pedophiles in the Church don't molest children in the name of Christ. But Islamic terrorists are always yelling "Allahu Akbar!" as they blow themselves up.

And where are all these supposedly peaceful, moderate Muslims whenever something like this happens? I can understand why Muslims living in Iran would be afraid to speak out against jihad, but there's no excuse for the Muslims living in downtown Los Angelas. If they are truly opposed to what is being done in the name of their religion, then they have to step up and show us. But their silence has been deafening.

Metal_Mario99

They're there, you just don't hear about it. Here's an example.

I do believe that there are humane, sensible Muslims in this world. I believe them to be the minority, however. Not all Muslims are violent terrorists, but the reason so few actually speak out against the terrorists is that they sympathize with them to a certain degree. Sure, they'd never dream of hijacking a plane and flying it into a building to kill thousands of people, but nor would they be willing to speak out against the Muslims who do engage in that sort of thing.

It's just not done.

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

[QUOTE="dk00111"]

They're there, you just don't hear about it. Here's an example.

gaming25

I do believe that there are humane, sensible Muslims in this world. I believe them to be the minority, however. Not all Muslims are violent terrorists, but the reason so few actually speak out against the terrorists is that they sympathize with them to a certain degree. Sure, they'd never dream of hijacking a plane and flying it into a building to kill thousands of people, but nor would they be willing to speak out against the Muslims who do engage in that sort of thing.

It's just not done.

Hey, here's an idea. How about reading my entire post? I said that the majority of Muslims sympathize with the terrorists.

Ugh, half of my posts in this thread have been because I've had to reiterate something I said that you people failed to absorb.

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

[QUOTE="doom3lv"]

You know, here is the problem. I am a Catholic. I thought about the actions of members of the Church. I almost wanted to give up religion. But then I realized, these people are not Christians.

I then looked at osama bin laden. Now I began to wonder, if I were a muslim, I would definitely want to dissociate myself from the radicals and murderers. And then I realized, if I were a muslim, I cannot dissociate myself from the radicals, the simple reason is the radicals do everything they do in the name of islam. They follow jihad, which is islam. So whether you are a radical or not, you all follow the same religion.

That is a truth you have to accept.

doom3lv

Right. Pedophiles in the Church don't molest children in the name of Christ. But Islamic terrorists are always yelling "Allahu Akbar!" as they blow themselves up.

And where are all these supposedly peaceful, moderate Muslims whenever something like this happens? I can understand why Muslims living in Iran would be afraid to speak out against jihad, but there's no excuse for the Muslims living in downtown Los Angelas. If they are truly opposed to what is being done in the name of their religion, then they have to step up and show us. But their silence has been deafening.

You know what, it just goes to show that the loyalty of muslims lies with islam, not humanity. Believe me, if my church said it was OK to hurt a gay man because it is against Christianity, I would definitely give up my religion and my Church.

So far, I have not heard of any muslims doing that.

Then you need to look it up because when a government does something like that, most of the time you wont hear how the civilians feel about the issue in international news.

[QUOTE="dk00111"]

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

Right. Pedophiles in the Church don't molest children in the name of Christ. But Islamic terrorists are always yelling "Allahu Akbar!" as they blow themselves up.

And where are all these supposedly peaceful, moderate Muslims whenever something like this happens? I can understand why Muslims living in Iran would be afraid to speak out against jihad, but there's no excuse for the Muslims living in downtown Los Angelas. If they are truly opposed to what is being done in the name of their religion, then they have to step up and show us. But their silence has been deafening.

Metal_Mario99

They're there, you just don't hear about it. Here's an example.

I do believe that there are humane, sensible Muslims in this world. I believe them to be the minority, however. Not all Muslims are violent terrorists, but the reason so few actually speak out against the terrorists is that they sympathize with them to a certain degree. Sure, they'd never dream of hijacking a plane and flying it into a building to kill thousands of people, but nor would they be willing to speak out against the Muslims who do engage in that sort of thing.

It's just not done.

Why would they sympathize? I'm not Muslim, but I've been around enough Muslims to know that the majority of Muslims do in fact condone their extremists actions. Are Christians expected to condone the actions of their extremists every time somebody bombs an abortion clinic or protests a dead soldier's funeral? No, because people know that those extremists don't represent the views of most Christians. dk00111

That's because it's absurd to think that Christians, in this modern, enlightened age, would foster such sentiment in the mainstream. Islam, however, leaves itself wide open for such speculation just by nature of being such an oppressive, hateful, ass-backwards religion.

I find it sad how these people who are carrying out these punishments are actually considered "Muslims" by the rest of the Islamic world-community.

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

I do believe that there are humane, sensible Muslims in this world. I believe them to be the minority, however. Not all Muslims are violent terrorists, but the reason so few actually speak out against the terrorists is that they sympathize with them to a certain degree. Sure, they'd never dream of hijacking a plane and flying it into a building to kill thousands of people, but nor would they be willing to speak out against the Muslims who do engage in that sort of thing.

It's just not done.

Metal_Mario99

Hey, here's an idea. How about reading my entire post? I said that the majority of Muslims sympathize with the terrorists.

Ugh, half of my posts in this thread have been because I've had to reiterate something I said that you people failed to absorb.

[QUOTE="dk00111"]

Why would they sympathize? I'm not Muslim, but I've been around enough Muslims to know that the majority of Muslims do in fact condone their extremists actions. Are Christians expected to condone the actions of their extremists every time somebody bombs an abortion clinic or protests a dead soldier's funeral? No, because people know that those extremists don't represent the views of most Christians. Metal_Mario99

That's because it's absurd to think that Christians, in this modern, enlightened age, would foster such sentiment in the mainstream. Islam, however, leaves itself wide open for such speculation just by nature of being such an oppressive, hateful, ass-backwards religion.

And how would you even know that they sympathize with terrorists???gaming25

They sure haven't done anything to show me they don't, and that's the point. If they want us to beleve Islam is a "religion of peace", they need to get off their ass and start selling it.

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

[QUOTE="dk00111"]

Why would they sympathize? I'm not Muslim, but I've been around enough Muslims to know that the majority of Muslims do in fact condone their extremists actions. Are Christians expected to condone the actions of their extremists every time somebody bombs an abortion clinic or protests a dead soldier's funeral? No, because people know that those extremists don't represent the views of most Christians. gaming25

That's because it's absurd to think that Christians, in this modern, enlightened age, would foster such sentiment in the mainstream. Islam, however, leaves itself wide open for such speculation just by nature of being such an oppressive, hateful, ass-backwards religion.

If they cannot get along with their own people, how do you expect them to be tolerant towards other cultures?

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

Do you know that most terrorist acts by muslims are on Muslim civilians themselves? So you are making no sense when you say they condone that behavior when it is them getting killed.gaming25

Yet they continue to hate us more than they hate the Muslim extremists.

I find it sad how these people who are carrying out these punishments are actually considered "Muslims" by the rest of the Islamic world-community.

foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

I find it sad how these people who are carrying out these punishments are actually considered "Muslims" by the rest of the Islamic world-community.

krazy-blazer

Why do I have to hear that from you and not from the swelling majority of "moderate" Muslims?

I think it's wrong to do that....

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

Do you know that most terrorist acts by muslims are on Muslim civilians themselves? So you are making no sense when you say they condone that behavior when it is them getting killed.Metal_Mario99

Yet they continue to hate us more than they hate the Muslim extremists.

[QUOTE="gaming25"]

And how would you even know that they sympathize with terrorists???Metal_Mario99

They sure haven't done anything to show me they don't, and that's the point. If they want us to beleve Islam is a "religion of peace", they need to get off their ass and start selling it.

They could start by not being so extremely insensitive to the American people and not building a mosque at ground zero of all the places!!

Think about this:

"As muslims and Americans, we understand the pain of all the families who lost their loves ones in the 9/11. As a sign of respect, we decide not to build this mosque at Ground Zero. God bless the United States of America."

If I read something like that in the papers, I am going to start believing that people of islam are being progressive.

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

That's because it's absurd to think that Christians, in this modern, enlightened age, would foster such sentiment in the mainstream. Islam, however, leaves itself wide open for such speculation just by nature of being such an oppressive, hateful, ass-backwards religion.

doom3lv

If they cannot get along with their own people, how do you expect them to be tolerant towards other cultures?

the middle east should just get blown up

I live in Kuwaitkrazy-blazer

Well, that explains a lot.

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

I find it sad how these people who are carrying out these punishments are actually considered "Muslims" by the rest of the Islamic world-community.

Metal_Mario99

Why do I have to hear that from you and not from the swelling majority of "moderate" Muslims?

[QUOTE="shinian"]

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

Oh, the Muslims have those too. In fact, Muhammed himself was a child molestor. He had a number of child wives.

Metal_Mario99

So at last you are able to see how those two religions, wrongly used, give similar results.

Yes, but don't expect me to concede that Catholicism (or any other form of Christianity) comes anywhere close to Islam in the "dirty deeds" department.

Okay because you said about Catholicism in your article. (All the articles I'm about to post are done by organisations funed or at least partially funded and armed by American citizens)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-11206821

Basically that article reads that today in Antrim a Catholic terrorist planted a viable Pipe bomb at a school which was then picked up by a child who is now lucky to be alive as fortunatly the device was made safe before it detonated by arm bomb disposal.

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/Claudy-bomb-report-could-cause.6487214.jp

A catholic priest who planted a bomb killing 9 people one a child cleaning the familys shop windows who he saw as he planted the bomb, the catholic church tried to cover this up and he was never brought to justice.

Between 1969 and 2001, 3,526 people were killed as a result of the Troubles

Approximately 60% of the dead were killed by republicans (Catholics), 30% by loyalists (Prodestants)and 10% by British security forces.

Responsibility for killing

Responsible party

• Republican paramilitary groups (Catholic) 2057
• Loyalist paramilitary groups (Prodestant) 1019
• British security forces 363
• Persons unknown 82
• Irish security forces 5

If you count those numbers that more than 9/11 in a population only 1/190th of the size.....

Edit: Links

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] Neither the Muslims nor some Iranians consider the government to be Muslim, its like they created their own religion and slapped Islam on it.krazy-blazer

Why do I have to hear that from you and not from the swelling majority of "moderate" Muslims?

Hell, just a few thousand would be a good start.

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"]

And how would you even know that they sympathize with terrorists???doom3lv

They sure haven't done anything to show me they don't, and that's the point. If they want us to beleve Islam is a "religion of peace", they need to get off their ass and start selling it.

They could start by not being so extremely insensitive to the American people and not building a mosque at ground zero of all the places!!

Think about this:

"As muslims and Americans, we understand the pain of all the families who lost their loves ones in the 9/11. As a sign of respect, we decide not to build this mosque at Ground Zero. God bless the United States of America."

If I read something like that in the papers, I am going to start believing that people of islam are being progressive.

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"]

I live in KuwaitMetal_Mario99

Well, that explains a lot.

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

[QUOTE="shinian"]

So at last you are able to see how those two religions, wrongly used, give similar results.

MattDistillery

Yes, but don't expect me to concede that Catholicism (or any other form of Christianity) comes anywhere close to Islam in the "dirty deeds" department.

Okay because you said about Catholicism in your article. (All the articles I'm about to post are done by organisations funed or at least partially funded and armed by American citizens)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-11206821

Basically that article reads that today in Antrim a Catholic terrorist planted a viable Pipe bomb at a school which was then picked up by a child who is now lucky to be alive as fortunatly the device was made safe before it detonated by arm bomb disposal.

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/Claudy-bomb-report-could-cause.6487214.jp

A catholic priest who planted a bomb killing 9 people one a child cleaning the familys shop windows who he saw as he planted the bomb, the catholic church tried to cover this up and he was never brought to justice.

Between 1969 and 2001, 3,526 people were killed as a result of the Troubles

Approximately 60% of the dead were killed by republicans (Catholics), 30% by loyalists (Prodestants)and 10% by British security forces.

Responsibility for killing

Responsible party

• Republican paramilitary groups (Catholic) 2057
• Loyalist paramilitary groups (Prodestant) 1019
• British security forces 363
• Persons unknown 82
• Irish security forces 5

If you count those numbers that more than 9/11 in a population only 1/190th of the size.....

Edit: Links

YEs, the west is awful! Move to the middle east perhaps?

I find it sad how these people who are carrying out these punishments are actually considered "Muslims" by the rest of the Islamic world-community.

foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

I find it sad how these people who are carrying out these punishments are actually considered "Muslims" by the rest of the Islamic world-community.

MaxPred2010

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"]

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

Why do I have to hear that from you and not from the swelling majority of "moderate" Muslims?

Metal_Mario99

Hell, just a few thousand would be a good start.

[QUOTE="MattDistillery"]

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

Yes, but don't expect me to concede that Catholicism (or any other form of Christianity) comes anywhere close to Islam in the "dirty deeds" department.

doom3lv

Okay because you said about Catholicism in your article. (All the articles I'm about to post are done by organisations funed or at least partially funded and armed by American citizens)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-11206821

Basically that article reads that today in Antrim a Catholic terrorist planted a viable Pipe bomb at a school which was then picked up by a child who is now lucky to be alive as fortunatly the device was made safe before it detonated by arm bomb disposal.

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/Claudy-bomb-report-could-cause.6487214.jp

A catholic priest who planted a bomb killing 9 people one a child cleaning the familys shop windows who he saw as he planted the bomb, the catholic church tried to cover this up and he was never brought to justice.

Between 1969 and 2001, 3,526 people were killed as a result of the Troubles

Approximately 60% of the dead were killed by republicans (Catholics), 30% by loyalists (Prodestants)and 10% by British security forces.

Responsibility for killing

Responsible party

• Republican paramilitary groups (Catholic) 2057
• Loyalist paramilitary groups (Prodestant) 1019
• British security forces 363
• Persons unknown 82
• Irish security forces 5

If you count those numbers that more than 9/11 in a population only 1/190th of the size.....

Edit: Links

YEs, the west is awful! Move to the middle east perhaps?

I was just pointing out the hypocrasy of his christians can't be terrorists claims.

Things like that **** makes me sick. What backward laws. ******* heartless jokes.

And this is why in the U.S. we decided to separate church from state. Islam-controlled governments have terrible laws.UT_Wrestler

And whats this got to do with Islam? They make up their own rules, please stop associating Islam with everything they do its pathetic.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

I find it sad how these people who are carrying out these punishments are actually considered "Muslims" by the rest of the Islamic world-community.

MaxPred2010

And this is why in the U.S. we decided to separate church from state. Islam-controlled governments have terrible laws.UT_Wrestler

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

[QUOTE="shinian"]

So at last you are able to see how those two religions, wrongly used, give similar results.

MattDistillery

Yes, but don't expect me to concede that Catholicism (or any other form of Christianity) comes anywhere close to Islam in the "dirty deeds" department.

Okay because you said about Catholicism in your article. (All the articles I'm about to post are done by organisations funed or at least partially funded and armed by American citizens)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-11206821

Basically that article reads that today in Antrim a Catholic terrorist planted a viable Pipe bomb at a school which was then picked up by a child who is now lucky to be alive as fortunatly the device was made safe before it detonated by arm bomb disposal.

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/Claudy-bomb-report-could-cause.6487214.jp

A catholic priest who planted a bomb killing 9 people one a child cleaning the familys shop windows who he saw as he planted the bomb, the catholic church tried to cover this up and he was never brought to justice.

Between 1969 and 2001, 3,526 people were killed as a result of the Troubles

Approximately 60% of the dead were killed by republicans (Catholics), 30% by loyalists (Prodestants)and 10% by British security forces.

Responsibility for killing

Responsible party

• Republican paramilitary groups (Catholic) 2057
• Loyalist paramilitary groups (Prodestant) 1019
• British security forces 363
• Persons unknown 82
• Irish security forces 5

If you count those numbers that more than 9/11 in a population only 1/190th of the size.....

Edit: Links

Were they killing in the name of Christ, or were they killers who just happened to identify themselves as Christians? Because there's a difference. If I got mugged and killed by an Irish Catholic who wanted my wallet, the newspaper headline wouldn't read something like "CATHOLIC MURDERER CLAIMS ANOTHER VICTIM", because there was no religious motive behind his crime. The motives behind the crimes of Islamic terrorists, however, are indisputably religious. They're killing in the name of Alah.