Iranian woman will be whipped 99 times for being in a photo with no veil

the middle east should just get blown up

needled24-7

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] How do you want every single "moderate" Muslim to tell you that? There is a reason why the Arabs hate Iran.

krazy-blazer

Hell, just a few thousand would be a good start.

Anyway, I'm going to sign off for now, since I don't think this whole pointless spiel is going to end otherwise. Besides, I'm tired of constantly having to wait for the flooding prevention to expire.

[QUOTE="MaxPred2010"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

I find it sad how these people who are carrying out these punishments are actually considered "Muslims" by the rest of the Islamic world-community.

gaming25

Even though everything they do is because of islam, in the name of islam? They're a perfect representation of the religion. MaxPred2010

[...] the same religion which causes these things to happen.MaxPred2010

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"][QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

Hell, just a few thousand would be a good start.

dk00111

[QUOTE="MattDistillery"]

[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]

Yes, but don't expect me to concede that Catholicism (or any other form of Christianity) comes anywhere close to Islam in the "dirty deeds" department.

Metal_Mario99

Okay because you said about Catholicism in your article. (All the articles I'm about to post are done by organisations funed or at least partially funded and armed by American citizens)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-11206821

Basically that article reads that today in Antrim a Catholic terrorist planted a viable Pipe bomb at a school which was then picked up by a child who is now lucky to be alive as fortunatly the device was made safe before it detonated by arm bomb disposal.

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/Claudy-bomb-report-could-cause.6487214.jp

A catholic priest who planted a bomb killing 9 people one a child cleaning the familys shop windows who he saw as he planted the bomb, the catholic church tried to cover this up and he was never brought to justice.

Between 1969 and 2001, 3,526 people were killed as a result of the Troubles

Approximately 60% of the dead were killed by republicans (Catholics), 30% by loyalists (Prodestants)and 10% by British security forces.

Responsibility for killing

Responsible party

• Republican paramilitary groups (Catholic) 2057
• Loyalist paramilitary groups (Prodestant) 1019
• British security forces 363
• Persons unknown 82
• Irish security forces 5

If you count those numbers that more than 9/11 in a population only 1/190th of the size.....

Edit: Links

Were they killing in the name of Christ, or were they killers who just happened to identify themselves as Christians? Because there's a difference. If I got mugged and killed by an Irish Catholic who wanted my wallet, the newspaper headline wouldn't read something like "CATHOLIC MURDERER CLAIMS ANOTHER VICTIM", because there was no religious motive behind his crime. The motives behind the crimes of Islamic terrorists, however, are indisputably religious. They're killing in the name of Alah.

It's started of asa religious war based around two states were areas of catholic majority wanted a 'Catholic state for a catholic people' and in 1921 got it and it was run on catholic principles e.g abortion is illegal by the constitution. Areas of Prodestant majority became a 'Prodestant country for a prodestant people' and there has been a religious based armed conflict here since as groups of people whish to remain in these respective religious culture E.g Irish catholic Gealic or British Prodestant.(Due in no small part to Irish American arms smuggling and donations).

I havn't even got into the genocides in Africa from there Independance to modern day on religious boundaries.

[QUOTE="dk00111"][QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] A few thousand? come to any Middle eastern country and ask the people about their opinion on Iran. The only people who will like Iran don't know shat about it, and think they will help them free Palestine. EVEN Saudi Arabia volunteered to open way for Israel to go through Saudi arabia and strike Iran's reactors.krazy-blazer

I dont know much about Muslims in the Middle East, so I want to ask you. Do any of your friends condone violent acts, and also, if you can, can you talk a little in depth about most of the Muslims in the Middle East?

[QUOTE="dk00111"][QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] A few thousand? come to any Middle eastern country and ask the people about their opinion on Iran. The only people who will like Iran don't know shat about it, and think they will help them free Palestine. EVEN Saudi Arabia volunteered to open way for Israel to go through Saudi arabia and strike Iran's reactors.krazy-blazer

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"]

[QUOTE="dk00111"] When you refer to Iran, do you refer to the people or the government?gaming25

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"]

[QUOTE="dk00111"] When you refer to Iran, do you refer to the people or the government?dk00111

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] Government, Lots of Iranians live in Kuwait, I myself have a few Iranian friends.

krazy-blazer

Thanks.

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"][QUOTE="gaming25"] Just for my knowledge, do any of your friends condone violent acts, and also, if you can, can you talk a little in depth about most of the Muslims in the Middle East? (because I dont know about many Muslims in the middle east).gaming25

Thanks.

Iranians don't hate America or Americans, and whenever I go there to visit and somebody figures out I live in the US, I always get the same response "You have no idea how lucky you are. I wish I was in your shoes." The only thing that frustrates Iranians is the fact that the US & UK helped overthrow their first democratic leader, leading to the government they have now. But there aren't any "hard feelings" and they'd much rather see the current govt overthrown and a good relationship established with the US.

The government does not represent the people or their views, including many of the conservatives. Most people don't see the government as an Islamic government, but as a government that hides behind Islam. Freedom of expression is minimal, and Iranians absolutely hate that. As far as people of other religions go, the people don't really mind. Muslims and atheists/non-religious are probably the largest groups, although there are also Zoroastrians, Christians, and Jews. When it comes to the people religion isn't a problem, although I can't say the same for the government. Terrorism and violence are strongly condoned, and any government support for terrorism is criticized.

Now don't get me wrong, there are some people who see eye to eye on things with the government, but for they are in the minority.

Typical of Iran. Typical of Islam. Is anybody actually surprised by this?

Typical of Iran. Typical of Islam. Is anybody actually surprised by this?

Elephant_Couple

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Wow really? :|

remember, iran is doing this for peaceful purposes :roll:

She got off lucky...they normally kill them. Although the 99 whip will most likely kill her anyway

Typical of Iran. Typical of Islam. Is anybody actually surprised by this?

Elephant_Couple

its absolutely amazing how people still defend islam. seriously if i were a muslim, i would have long given up islam. to even be identified with the religion that inspires governaments to act this way would be a personal insult to me.
i would adopt an english (not christian) name and just start over. really, if religion is not helping people, what is the point of it?doom3lv

[QUOTE="doom3lv"]its absolutely amazing how people still defend islam. seriously if i were a muslim, i would have long given up islam. to even be identified with the religion that inspires governaments to act this way would be a personal insult to me.
i would adopt an english (not christian) name and just start over. really, if religion is not helping people, what is the point of it?SaudiFury

[QUOTE="SaudiFury"]

[QUOTE="doom3lv"]its absolutely amazing how people still defend islam. seriously if i were a muslim, i would have long given up islam. to even be identified with the religion that inspires governaments to act this way would be a personal insult to me.
i would adopt an english (not christian) name and just start over. really, if religion is not helping people, what is the point of it?LJS9502_basic

well i don't mean to make it a Muslim-Christian comparison history arguement.

I'm merely using an example, people are who they are, and people can and usually want some sort of change. Just because there is an opposite movement going on doesn't mean people throw up their hands and say "i quit... I'm gonna go play with the other team now". simply put. life is a constant struggle in more ways then one. Each person living right now comes from their backgrounds and their own ethnocentrism and have their own battles to deal with. Life itself wouldn't hold much value if it didn't include struggles.

[QUOTE="SaudiFury"]

[QUOTE="doom3lv"]its absolutely amazing how people still defend islam. seriously if i were a muslim, i would have long given up islam. to even be identified with the religion that inspires governaments to act this way would be a personal insult to me.
i would adopt an english (not christian) name and just start over. really, if religion is not helping people, what is the point of it?LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="SaudiFury"] you don't give up Christianity because of abortion murderers do you? or do they not embarrass you? Just because your a German living in Nazi Germany doesn't mean you DONT defend Germany. You can be against the Nazi's but still defend her. You can be against religion as a institution of the state, and still be a believer of that religion.

dk00111

[QUOTE="dk00111"][QUOTE="doom3lv"]

Oh dear god. You love to defend islam don't you? Well, of course its your right. But then again, it is the right of the rest of the free world to see these brutal practices and condemn the religion.

I am sorry, but I have a feeling you are being very very blind to the side of islam that is extremely radical, and also prevalent.

doom3lv

You know, here is the problem. I am a Catholic. I thought about the actions of members of the Church. I almost wanted to give up religion. But then I realized, these people are not Christians.

I then looked at osama bin laden. Now I began to wonder, if I were a muslim, I would definitely want to dissociate myself from the radicals and murderers. And then I realized, if I were a muslim, I cannot dissociate myself from the radicals, the simple reason is the radicals do everything they do in the name of islam. They follow jihad, which is islam. So whether you are a radical or not, you all follow the same religion.

That is a truth you have to accept.

fair enough

[QUOTE="Elephant_Couple"]

Typical of Iran. Typical of Islam. Is anybody actually surprised by this?

chessmaster1989

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Wow really? :|

she's got 99 problems

and a whipping is one of them

Qaderzadeh

That's a tongue twister :lol:

So..She's getting whipped for not having a photograph of her unveiled in the papers?

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Elephant_Couple"]

Typical of Iran. Typical of Islam. Is anybody actually surprised by this?

MaxPred2010

:|

Wow really? :|

Egypt is a Islamic country but its secular and has laws and justice that we can affiliate with.. This pretty much happens in any kind of religious theocracy or monarchy regardless of what religion.

They make it sound so epic and right thing to do.

It's Iran, why are people surprised? It's like being surprised when North Korea mistreats its citizens.

Iran: Making Islam look bad worldwide alongside the Taliban since 1979.

Iran: Making Islam look bad worldwide alongside the Taliban since 1979.

Verge_6

Religion is religion. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.' " -- 1 Samuel 15:3 And go take a good look at Deuteronomy 20. God is behind Christians when they go to war, and encourages them to enslave the cites that offer peace, and slaughter those that fight back. God supports war against the enemies of Christians. How is that any different to what you put from the Quran? And since you gave yourself the power to speak on behalf of all Muslims and how they interpret enemies and war, I'll go ahead and do the same. To Christians, enemies are abortion clinics and homosexuals, so the Bible is encouraging christians to slaughter all of them. The Bible is OBVIOUSLY the source for the abortion clinic bombers right?

dk00111

Wrong interpretation...the Old Testament was a history and guideline for the Jewish people.

Christians revere the Old Testament because it is a part of Judeo-Christian heritage - many verses tie-in with the coming of Christ.

For example, many verses in Isaiah tell the extent of the torture Jesus endured...more horrific than you might think.

It's not kosher to duplicate threads.:x