Is it really worth the extra 30 grand?

You forgot to add that Mustang produces less horsepower, even though it's engine is much bigger. Plus, it's an American car, so it can't handle extreme road obstacles. Like corners.

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] Lol.. i didnt buy it for its engine.. I bought it for the look, handling, and luxury..CBR600-RR

BMW fairly poor reliability? They're pretty good to be honest.

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] Lol.. i didnt buy it for its engine.. I bought it for the look, handling, and luxury..CBR600-RR

BMW fairly poor reliability? They're pretty good to be honest.

[QUOTE="CBR600-RR"]

[QUOTE="sonicare"] You should have bought a japanese entry luxury car if that was what you are going for - a acura TL or a lexus IS. BMW's have fairly poor reliability. The biggest advantage they have over the japanese counterparts is that they are more fun to drive. But if you get the 325i or 328i versions, you're losing a big part of that experience.FUBAR24

BMW fairly poor reliability? They're pretty good to be honest.

Not a VW? They last for agessssss.

[QUOTE="CBR600-RR"]

[QUOTE="sonicare"] You should have bought a japanese entry luxury car if that was what you are going for - a acura TL or a lexus IS. BMW's have fairly poor reliability. The biggest advantage they have over the japanese counterparts is that they are more fun to drive. But if you get the 325i or 328i versions, you're losing a big part of that experience.sonicare

BMW fairly poor reliability? They're pretty good to be honest.

[QUOTE="CBR600-RR"]

[QUOTE="sonicare"] You should have bought a japanese entry luxury car if that was what you are going for - a acura TL or a lexus IS. BMW's have fairly poor reliability. The biggest advantage they have over the japanese counterparts is that they are more fun to drive. But if you get the 325i or 328i versions, you're losing a big part of that experience.sonicare

BMW fairly poor reliability? They're pretty good to be honest.

I never knew, always heard good things about them as people kept their beemers for quite a while.

You forgot to add that Mustang produces less horsepower, even though it's engine is much bigger. Plus, it's an American car, so it can't handle extreme road obstacles. Like corners.

XanderKage

[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

[QUOTE="Tauruslink"]I'd get the BMW. I already have a 328i and its by far the best car I've ever driven.imaps3fanboy

why not just buy infiniti, same price and you get 330hp with the g37s

better bang for the buck. I understand you probably like the status symbol of the bmw but u get +100 hp and +70 torque with the G37S, same price g37s is fully loaded, the 328i is not fully loaded

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="CBR600-RR"]

BMW fairly poor reliability? They're pretty good to be honest.

CBR600-RR

I never knew, always heard good things about them as people kept their beemers for quite a while.

[QUOTE="FUBAR24"][QUOTE="CBR600-RR"]

BMW fairly poor reliability? They're pretty good to be honest.

CBR600-RR

Not a VW? They last for agessssss.

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

why not just buy infiniti, same price and you get 330hp with the g37s

LegitGamer3212

better bang for the buck. I understand you probably like the status symbol of the bmw but u get +100 hp and +70 torque with the G37S, same price g37s is fully loaded, the 328i is not fully loaded

they are decent, if you want a reliable german car you get a porsche, unfortunately not everyone has that kind of money, BMWs are decent but cost an arm and a leg cause you usually have to go to a dealer for themFUBAR24

Not a VW? They last for agessssss.

[QUOTE="CBR600-RR"]

[QUOTE="FUBAR24"] they are decent, if you want a reliable german car you get a porsche, unfortunately not everyone has that kind of money, BMWs are decent but cost an arm and a leg cause you usually have to go to a dealer for themFUBAR24

Not a VW? They last for agessssss.

:lol: Sorry, I was thinking my dad had a VW van, it's a Merc, my bad.

[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] because horsepower is everything?imaps3fanboy

better bang for the buck. I understand you probably like the status symbol of the bmw but u get +100 hp and +70 torque with the G37S, same price g37s is fully loaded, the 328i is not fully loaded

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

better bang for the buck. I understand you probably like the status symbol of the bmw but u get +100 hp and +70 torque with the G37S, same price g37s is fully loaded, the 328i is not fully loaded

FUBAR24

w/e you apparently know it all so I'll concede. All I know is that I paid for a nice luxury car for less then 35,000 thats going to last a long time, hold its value, and is going to be reliable, thats all that really matters to me.

[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] because horsepower is everything?imaps3fanboy

better bang for the buck. I understand you probably like the status symbol of the bmw but u get +100 hp and +70 torque with the G37S, same price g37s is fully loaded, the 328i is not fully loaded

you can drive what you want i dont care, i don't own neither cars, i own a civic. the bimmer is a good car, was just wondering why you bought a 328i and not another for the same price.

I'd go with the Mustang in a heart beat.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I'd much rather have any M3 made in the last 8-9 years than any Mustang, including the GT500. The GT500 has alot more horsepower and torque than the M3, but it's also heavier. The 2010 GT500 can run through the 1/4 mile in about 12.3-12.4 seconds, the M3 can do it in 12.8-12.9. The M3 outhandles it, has a far higher standard of quality in the interior, and lower tolerances throughout the entire car. They're not even comparable. Don't get me wrong- I love the GT500 for it's raw power and great muscular looks.. but it's not in the same league as an M3.

FUBAR24

You don't buy a BMW over a Mustang just on performance.. you do it because it's a much nicer car. I've driven alot of cars, including my own 2007 350z, which I LOVE.. But I've never driven anything that drove as well as my dad's BMW 540i. It's in a completely different class of car. In fact, one publication stated that the E39 5-series was the "best car they had ever driven." The M3 isn't a 5-series, but it's from the same pedigree. Everybody and their brother has a Mustang. They're cheaply-made in comparison to any BMW. I'm not saying that they're bad cars.. just out of their league completely in this comparison.

The M3 supposedly drives and handles much better than the Mustang, and obviously the luxury & status. On performance/$, the Mustang obviously wins, though. It depends on what you're looking for in your car.

Get the BMW if you can afford it. It's not a car that you want to weigh the price vs. performance, because BMWs generally fail in that category :P

I'd take the BMW if I had the money. Its not all about the horsepower, etc when you're buying a car like a BMW or a mercedes. I like the BMW for the class and the brand.

[QUOTE="FUBAR24"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I'd much rather have any M3 made in the last 8-9 years than any Mustang, including the GT500. The GT500 has alot more horsepower and torque than the M3, but it's also heavier. The 2010 GT500 can run through the 1/4 mile in about 12.3-12.4 seconds, the M3 can do it in 12.8-12.9. The M3 outhandles it, has a far higher standard of quality in the interior, and lower tolerances throughout the entire car. They're not even comparable. Don't get me wrong- I love the GT500 for it's raw power and great muscular looks.. but it's not in the same league as an M3.

hartsickdiscipl

You don't buy a BMW over a Mustang just on performance.. you do it because it's a much nicer car. I've driven alot of cars, including my own 2007 350z, which I LOVE.. But I've never driven anything that drove as well as my dad's BMW 540i. It's in a completely different class of car. In fact, one publication stated that the E39 5-series was the "best car they had ever driven." The M3 isn't a 5-series, but it's from the same pedigree. Everybody and their brother has a Mustang. They're cheaply-made in comparison to any BMW. I'm not saying that they're bad cars.. just out of their league completely in this comparison.

350z represent! I live in a cold state, so I have to have my summer toys and my winter blehs:

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="FUBAR24"] did you see the picture? thats a Mustang GT 5.0, weighs less yet the same numbers for acceleration and quarter mile. for 30 grand less. why waste youre money when you get the same performanceUltimoIce

You don't buy a BMW over a Mustang just on performance.. you do it because it's a much nicer car. I've driven alot of cars, including my own 2007 350z, which I LOVE.. But I've never driven anything that drove as well as my dad's BMW 540i. It's in a completely different class of car. In fact, one publication stated that the E39 5-series was the "best car they had ever driven." The M3 isn't a 5-series, but it's from the same pedigree. Everybody and their brother has a Mustang. They're cheaply-made in comparison to any BMW. I'm not saying that they're bad cars.. just out of their league completely in this comparison.

350z represent! I live in a cold state, so I have to have my summer toys and my winter blehs:

I'm with you brother! Best bang for the buck sports car IMO. This is my 2nd 350z.. my first one was unfortunately lost in the line of duty protecting me when an irresponsible woman driving an SUV targeted me. I see yours is the correct color too :D

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

better bang for the buck. I understand you probably like the status symbol of the bmw but u get +100 hp and +70 torque with the G37S, same price g37s is fully loaded, the 328i is not fully loaded

LegitGamer3212

you can drive what you want i dont care, i don't own neither cars, i own a civic. the bimmer is a good car, was just wondering why you bought a 328i and not another for the same price.

Well obviously if you are just looking for speed, the Mustang is by far the better buy. I'm sure aftermarket parts/install costs to increase that power are also much cheaper to do on the stang, have you seen the prices on the performance packages for BMWs? The M3 has the prestige and a much cleaner looking car.

Ford has really done it right this time though, that is an amazing car for the money. I'm glad I just purchased a headers/cam Trans Am WS6 this week with over 400hp/tq at the wheels, can't have my F-body losing to a Stang. But if I had the money for a new car, I might actually consider a Mustang for once.

And I live in sunny SoCal, these are my toys:

2001 WS6 6-speed manual:

2001 z28 Camaro auto:

They aren't really comparable cross shopped vehicles.

If I was considering an M3, I would consider an Audi S5, or a Cadillac CTS-V. And if I was considering performance a lot in that comparison, I'd take the Caddy as it destroys all comers on the performance side. Although I'd choose the S5 on the looks side and the M3 would be last.

The stang is cross shopped by the other pony cars, and while it holds up well, me thinks you have to give the edge to the camaro.

If you really have to consider whether the M3 is worth 30K more than the stang, then you can't afford one. The same applies to a Ferrari. You can buy one Ferrari or 4-5 other really solid cars. Is the one Ferrari really worth the premium. Obviously no, if you can't afford one. But if you can afford one....?

get the 2010 saleen with 475 hp or wait until may to get the 2011 saleen with 535 hp

do not get the bmw. Trust me, you will be happy you get the saleen and if you don't want to get the saleen go with the regular 2011 mustang gt with the coyote engine. It's gonna be better than the camarro ss

-AlbertC

I still say go with my idea. Most people on a gaming site are not going to know about cars so most people are just making assumptions that the bmw is clearly better because they go with the idea "you get what you pay for" but that isn't true in all cases

btw here is my ride. This is also a good car if you are looking for cheapness and when i say that I mean around 35-40k. Plus it's great at handling

2001 WS6 6-speed manual:

BeavermanA

I'm incredibly jealous.

I dont know why you made this thread when in every other thread you fervently advocate the Mustang to pretty much all cars. Of those choices id go with the M3 but im pretty sure your going to go with a Mustang. Personally i still love the Camaro and although its now not as good a performer as the Mustang it is still close and looks alot better than just about any Mustang (saleens, roushes, and Shelby's do not count lol).Kurushio

Tough choice since I wouldn't want either one. I'll buy a $15,000 car any day before either of these. If I had to choose, I would choose the less expensive option (Mustang).

Depends on the image you want to go for. I don't really like American sports cars, mostly because when I think of them I think of a bunch of "dudes" and "bros" hanging around in bandanas talking about how foreign cars suck while they chug down very crappy beer. Maybe I'm European at heart.

The BMW will not fall apart. You are paying for quality and a BMW badge. If it was going to be something I would drive everyday then I would go with the BMW but if it was a second car then I would go with the Mustang. I can't see myself buying any kind of performance car though to be honest.

Would the BMW burn a lot less fuel cos of all the new tech in it? And I reckon that Mustang couldn't corner to save it's life.

Niether is worth it. You're better off getting a Kia Forte or a Hyundai Sonata. My days of overpriced cars are done.psychobrew

Niether is worth it. You're better off getting a Kia Forte or a Hyundai Sonata. My days of overpriced cars are done.psychobrew

Atleast mention the Forte Koup or the Genesis. Sonata is mostly good for a rental car lol. Still id rather buy a japanese car (not toyota right now lol) over a Korean car any day. Hyundai mostly just copies other cars especially Mercedes for thier sedans.

I would take the M3, by far the better car

I'll pay $50.00 for it. :x

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]Niether is worth it. You're better off getting a Kia Forte or a Hyundai Sonata. My days of overpriced cars are done.Kurushio

Atleast mention the Forte Koup or the Genesis. Sonata is mostly good for a rental car lol. Still id rather buy a japanese car (not toyota right now lol) over a Korean car any day. Hyundai mostly just copies other cars especially Mercedes for thier sedans.

[QUOTE="UltimoIce"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

You don't buy a BMW over a Mustang just on performance.. you do it because it's a much nicer car. I've driven alot of cars, including my own 2007 350z, which I LOVE.. But I've never driven anything that drove as well as my dad's BMW 540i. It's in a completely different class of car. In fact, one publication stated that the E39 5-series was the "best car they had ever driven." The M3 isn't a 5-series, but it's from the same pedigree. Everybody and their brother has a Mustang. They're cheaply-made in comparison to any BMW. I'm not saying that they're bad cars.. just out of their league completely in this comparison.

hartsickdiscipl

350z represent! I live in a cold state, so I have to have my summer toys and my winter blehs:

I'm with you brother! Best bang for the buck sports car IMO. This is my 2nd 350z.. my first one was unfortunately lost in the line of duty protecting me when an irresponsible woman driving an SUV targeted me. I see yours is the correct color too :D

Whoa dude, freaky. Looks like you have the same year and package as me. I love it. I couldn't be happier than in my 350z. It is such an enjoyable ride.

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]Niether is worth it. You're better off getting a Kia Forte or a Hyundai Sonata. My days of overpriced cars are done.imaps3fanboy

I'd take the beemer. I would like to take a corner without sliding off the road into a tree.

[QUOTE="Kurushio"]

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]Niether is worth it. You're better off getting a Kia Forte or a Hyundai Sonata. My days of overpriced cars are done.psychobrew

Atleast mention the Forte Koup or the Genesis. Sonata is mostly good for a rental car lol. Still id rather buy a japanese car (not toyota right now lol) over a Korean car any day. Hyundai mostly just copies other cars especially Mercedes for thier sedans.

I respect the M3, but I'd take the Mustang.

And I can't say I've had any trouble getting my current Mustang to go around corners - I've had exactly one unintentional slide in it, caused by a combination of wet pavement, having driven through a construction site a few hundred feet before (probably picked up a bit of oil on the tires), cresting a slight hill while cornering (thereby unloading the rear axle), and being a bit out of it at the time (my wisdom teeth were removed a couple days before, and I was just getting off the painkillers). Caught and countered with only a bit of overcorrection. Even in the snow, I feel completely in control.

I respect the M3, but I'd take the Mustang.

And I can't say I've had any trouble getting my current Mustang to go around corners - I've had exactly one unintentional slide in it, caused by a combination of wet pavement, having driven through a construction site a few hundred feet before (probably picked up a bit of oil on the tires), cresting a slight hill while cornering (thereby unloading the rear axle), and being a bit out of it at the time (my wisdom teeth were removed a couple days before, and I was just getting off the painkillers). Caught and countered with only a bit of overcorrection. Even in the snow, I feel completely in control.

lowe0

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]Niether is worth it. You're better off getting a Kia Forte or a Hyundai Sonata. My days of overpriced cars are done.Kurushio

Atleast mention the Forte Koup or the Genesis. Sonata is mostly good for a rental car lol. Still id rather buy a japanese car (not toyota right now lol) over a Korean car any day. Hyundai mostly just copies other cars especially Mercedes for thier sedans.

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

I respect the M3, but I'd take the Mustang.

And I can't say I've had any trouble getting my current Mustang to go around corners - I've had exactly one unintentional slide in it, caused by a combination of wet pavement, having driven through a construction site a few hundred feet before (probably picked up a bit of oil on the tires), cresting a slight hill while cornering (thereby unloading the rear axle), and being a bit out of it at the time (my wisdom teeth were removed a couple days before, and I was just getting off the painkillers). Caught and countered with only a bit of overcorrection. Even in the snow, I feel completely in control.

F1_2004

[QUOTE="F1_2004"][QUOTE="lowe0"]

I respect the M3, but I'd take the Mustang.

And I can't say I've had any trouble getting my current Mustang to go around corners - I've had exactly one unintentional slide in it, caused by a combination of wet pavement, having driven through a construction site a few hundred feet before (probably picked up a bit of oil on the tires), cresting a slight hill while cornering (thereby unloading the rear axle), and being a bit out of it at the time (my wisdom teeth were removed a couple days before, and I was just getting off the painkillers). Caught and countered with only a bit of overcorrection. Even in the snow, I feel completely in control.

FUBAR24