Is it really worth the extra 30 grand?

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#201 jesuschristmonk
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Mustang is way cooler. Plus 30 grand is way cooler.

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Can get another really nice car for 30 grand, or fix up the Mustang a bit, though I'd go with another car (most likely for winter use).
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#202 jesuschristmonk
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Forget yall I want the GTR.

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Yah. It'd give me a reason to use my Bill Oddie mask :D

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#203 horgen  Moderator
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[QUOTE="HCMBusiness_89"]Do fords last 20 years? HAHA /threadfoxhound_fox
BMW's do? Did you ever hear about the 8-series? A car that, almost as soon as it hit 100K miles, the engine just failed working and required a complete rebuild.

Yes they do... I recently owned a BMW 520i that was bought in 1990. I've also seen 5series models from the 70's, 80's and 90's around in the city. Also seen a 7series from the 70's.
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#204 Ugalde-
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Mustang is way cooler.
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#205 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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[QUOTE="Nuck81"]My new Baby. When it's released. I'm third on the list at the dealer, Charcoal Grey. *Veloster Turbo*foxhound_fox
I love the look of the car. How does that asymmetrical door setup work out? I've also heard the non-turbo versions are lacklustre.

The non turbo looks nice, and has some impressive kit for the price, but with a turbo version coming out that has a better looking front end, I wouldn't have one.

Turbo Specs

202 BHP 1.6 liter 4 cyl Turbo Charged GDI engine.
6 speed DCT paddle transmission.
0-60 7.1 seconds.
27/39 mpg.

The Driver door is a normal Coupe door, but the passenger side is two door, with the back doors handle hidden in the window frame, so it still looks like a coupe from the side. Passenger view

sweet

Doors open

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#206 FUBAR24
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[QUOTE="Nuck81"]

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] Yea, I agree now. That comment is two years old, and I have a few friends that bought a hyundai and love ithadoken

My new Baby. When it's released. I'm third on the list at the dealer, Charcoal Grey.

u sure u dont want a dodge challenger?

buddy, its 20,000 for the SE version, then $2000 for the matte black wrap, then its another $3000 for the widebody kit. thats $25,000 and u will look like a boss

then you look like a complete tool for sticking a wide body kit on a V6 challenger that doesn't have any power whatsoever and is heavier than the factory it was built in

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#207 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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[QUOTE="Nuck81"]

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] Yea, I agree now. That comment is two years old, and I have a few friends that bought a hyundai and love ithadoken

My new Baby. When it's released. I'm third on the list at the dealer, Charcoal Grey.

Oh yeah

u sure u dont want a dodge challenger?

buddy, its 20,000 for the SE version, then $2000 for the matte black wrap, then its another $3000 for the widebody kit. thats $25,000 and u will look like a boss

Yes.

#1 I'm not married to my Sister

#2 I'm not a douchebag

#3 I like my cars to actually turn

#4 I want to drive longer than from one gas station to the next.

Dodge Muscle cars haven't been cool since 1972

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#208 -Renegade
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I don't like muscle cars at all. If I had the choice between the 2 I would definitely go with the M3.
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#209 iskeethunters
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The BMW. German make some damn fine cars. I drove a friend's Audi S5 a few days ago. It feels perfect. The M3 ~ Audi RS5 so it can only be better. It's got class, elegance and it's damn fast. You don't get the class and elegance with a Mustang. And did I mention it's German? P.S. To the guys with 325s, 318 or any other older BMW, the M3 is the top of the series. You're nowhere near it unfortunately.
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#210 lamprey263
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If I had 30K to spend on a car I'd get a Mini. I'm not picky I'd take something too conventional, like a Ford Focus, that whole car fanatic thing kicked in after Fast and the Furious and it was pathetically trendy, just like wine snobs started manifesting out of thin air after Sideways came out.
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#211 El3ctrosisV2
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Can I choose neither?
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#212 Postal_Guy
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Since I live in Europe and BMW's are all over the place and not that special... the Mustang easily. I'd take a Mustang over anything actually.

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#213 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Since I live in Europe and BMW's are all over the place and not that special... the Mustang easily. I'd take a Mustang over anything actually.

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Mustangs are illegal in Europe.
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#214 chaplainDMK
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[QUOTE="Postal_Guy"]

Since I live in Europe and BMW's are all over the place and not that special... the Mustang easily. I'd take a Mustang over anything actually.

sonicare
Mustangs are illegal in Europe.

Not really
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#215 SpartanMSU
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[QUOTE="Nuck81"]

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] Yea, I agree now. That comment is two years old, and I have a few friends that bought a hyundai and love ithadoken

My new Baby. When it's released. I'm third on the list at the dealer, Charcoal Grey.

Oh yeah

u sure u dont want a dodge challenger?

buddy, its 20,000 for the SE version, then $2000 for the matte black wrap, then its another $3000 for the widebody kit. thats $25,000 and u will look like a boss

If he's in the market for a small car, I doubt he would want the Challenger. Although I would definitely recommend using the extra cash to go with the R/T instread of the SE. That's what I have an I love it.

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#216 SpartanMSU
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[QUOTE="hadoken"]

[QUOTE="Nuck81"]My new Baby. When it's released. I'm third on the list at the dealer, Charcoal Grey.

Oh yeah

Nuck81

u sure u dont want a dodge challenger?

buddy, its 20,000 for the SE version, then $2000 for the matte black wrap, then its another $3000 for the widebody kit. thats $25,000 and u will look like a boss

Yes.

#1 I'm not married to my Sister

#2 I'm not a douchebag

#3 I like my cars to actually turn

#4 I want to drive longer than from one gas station to the next.

Dodge Muscle cars haven't been cool since 1972

The SE gets 30 mpg and the V8 RT gets 26...not bad for a 5.7L engine. Although I'm sure the velociter gets more. I just hope they come out with a top of the line model with a more powerful engine. It's a great looking car none the less.

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#217 villa4europe
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Since I live in Europe and BMW's are all over the place and not that special...

Postal_Guy

but think of all those BMW owners that will know that you drivea better one than them :cool:

the M3 is a stunning car, i havent been in a mustang so i cant compare but id be amazed if it was better, top gear never shut up about the M3/M5. just this sunday they commented that the M5 is easily the best all round car on the road

i was talking to the M3 owner i work withyesterday about the GTR, i really dont like the look of it, he made the comment that it looks like it should cost less but performs like it should cost twice as much...

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#218 DaBrainz
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Whatever a $14K Kawasaki will blow them both out of the water.
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#219 m3Boarder32
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[QUOTE="hadoken"][QUOTE="Nuck81"]My new Baby. When it's released. I'm third on the list at the dealer, Charcoal Grey.SpartanMSU
u sure u dont want a dodge challenger? buddy, its 20,000 for the SE version, then $2000 for the matte black wrap, then its another $3000 for the widebody kit. thats $25,000 and u will look like a boss

If he's in the market for a small car, I doubt he would want the Challenger. Although I would definitely recommend using the extra cash to go with the R/T instread of the SE. That's what I have an I love it.

Not bad power from a challenger, too bad it weighs 4100lbs.
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#220 RandomWinner
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Today a kid accidently backed a mustang lightly into my English teacher's van. His bumper got caught on the plastic part of the liscence plate, so when he moved forward, his entire bumper came off.

So you know something, it probably is. Piece of crap.

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#221 Bikouchu35
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[QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

Forget yall I want the GTR.

jesuschristmonk

Yah. It'd give me a reason to use my Bill Oddie mask :D

Now if only speed cameras were like that in the US (requiring the face).

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#222 CBR600-RR
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Whatever a $14K Kawasaki will blow them both out of the water.DaBrainz

At least someone has some sense here.

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#223 m3Boarder32
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[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]Whatever a $14K Kawasaki will blow them both out of the water.CBR600-RR

At least someone has some sense here.

No thanks, I'll stick to my 500 Horsepower Luxury Sports Sedan with Navigation, seating for 5, and enough cargo space to fit golf clubs and a dead body at the same time.
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#224 CBR600-RR
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[QUOTE="CBR600-RR"]

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]Whatever a $14K Kawasaki will blow them both out of the water.m3Boarder32

At least someone has some sense here.

No thanks, I'll stick to my 500 Horsepower Luxury Sports Sedan with Navigation, seating for 5, and enough cargo space to fit golf clubs and a dead body at the same time.



That picture has no point to it, it's the rider going too fast. What has seating for five got to do with it? Do you really need that social intimacy to boost your ego?

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#225 m3Boarder32
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Bikes are dumb bro, I don't see the point. A car can be just as fast in straight line speed as a Bike, but a bike can never take a corner as fast as a car.
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#226 Big_Bad_Sad
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Forget yall I want the GTR.

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I'd never spend money on a Nissan
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#227 quikdash6
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[QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

Forget yall I want the GTR.

Big_Bad_Sad
I'd never spend money on a Nissan

Then you sir, are an idiot. As for the OP, it depends on what you want. The M3 is the better overall car. More usable seating and better quality all around. However, if you're looking to race, with the money you save on the GT you can make it destroy an M3. Even with just some stiffer shocks the Mustang GT will be faster around the track. Not to mention, at least here in the states, when something breaks on the Mustang, it will be much cheaper to replace.
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#228 Big_Bad_Sad
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[QUOTE="Big_Bad_Sad"][QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

Forget yall I want the GTR.

quikdash6

I'd never spend money on a Nissan

Then you sir, are an idiot. As for the OP, it depends on what you want. The M3 is the better overall car. More usable seating and better quality all around. However, if you're looking to race, with the money you save on the GT you can make it destroy an M3. Even with just some stiffer shocks the Mustang GT will be faster around the track. Not to mention, at least here in the states, when something breaks on the Mustang, it will be much cheaper to replace.

Nissans are ****

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#229 achilles614
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Do fords last 20 years? HAHA /threadHCMBusiness_89
Well I have a 1991 F-150 in my driveway with 374,000 miles on it (of course it's had work done over the years der), that has outlasted all the other vehicles my family has owned. We've owned mostly Nissan, Honda, and Ford primarily. 3 Best vehicles were the F-150, a 1987 Jag xj6 (that went well over 200k miles), and my Dad's '89 accord. It's nice when cars last longer than 200,000 :) That's about 20 years I'd say at least for the truck. I'd want the M3 even though my brother is a Ford fanboy and that's all I hear about, then again I do my own car maintenance so if the Mustang would be easier to work on (assuming it would be) I'd rather have that in the long run.
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#230 taterfrickintot
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those specs looks very similar, but take those two to a track "that isnt a straight line" and the bmw will run circles around that mustang.

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#231 taterfrickintot
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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I'd much rather have any M3 made in the last 8-9 years than any Mustang, including the GT500. The GT500 has alot more horsepower and torque than the M3, but it's also heavier. The 2010 GT500 can run through the 1/4 mile in about 12.3-12.4 seconds, the M3 can do it in 12.8-12.9. The M3 outhandles it, has a far higher standard of quality in the interior, and lower tolerances throughout the entire car. They're not even comparable. Don't get me wrong- I love the GT500 for it's raw power and great muscular looks.. but it's not in the same league as an M3.

FUBAR24
did you see the picture? thats a Mustang GT 5.0, weighs less yet the same numbers for acceleration and quarter mile. for 30 grand less. why waste youre money when you get the same performance

whats under the hood isnt everything when it comes to performance... The BMW has a far superior build quality along with a proper suspention that will allow it to go around corners much more efficiently than any mustang
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#232 SpartanMSU
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[QUOTE="FUBAR24"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I'd much rather have any M3 made in the last 8-9 years than any Mustang, including the GT500. The GT500 has alot more horsepower and torque than the M3, but it's also heavier. The 2010 GT500 can run through the 1/4 mile in about 12.3-12.4 seconds, the M3 can do it in 12.8-12.9. The M3 outhandles it, has a far higher standard of quality in the interior, and lower tolerances throughout the entire car. They're not even comparable. Don't get me wrong- I love the GT500 for it's raw power and great muscular looks.. but it's not in the same league as an M3.

taterfrickintot

did you see the picture? thats a Mustang GT 5.0, weighs less yet the same numbers for acceleration and quarter mile. for 30 grand less. why waste youre money when you get the same performance

whats under the hood isnt everything when it comes to performance... The BMW has a far superior build quality along with a proper suspention that will allow it to go around corners much more efficiently than any mustang

That's not what the track results say...

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#233 quikdash6
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To prove my point and the other that say the GT is very close to the M3 around a track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOwSPccbzl4

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#234 TacticalDesire
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You are paying for luxury and status with the BMW. The two cars are not similar beyond power in any way.

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Yep, some people just enjoy owning nice cars or if they have a significant amount of cash, collecting.

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#235 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="Big_Bad_Sad"][QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

Forget yall I want the GTR.

quikdash6
I'd never spend money on a Nissan

Then you sir, are an idiot. As for the OP, it depends on what you want. The M3 is the better overall car. More usable seating and better quality all around. However, if you're looking to race, with the money you save on the GT you can make it destroy an M3. Even with just some stiffer shocks the Mustang GT will be faster around the track. Not to mention, at least here in the states, when something breaks on the Mustang, it will be much cheaper to replace.

Actually the smart choice would just be to buy a GT Mustang and Turbo it, there's no beating cubic inches, the only reason the GTR can even hold its own against modern day v8s(Corvettes) is because it's turbo charged about three times.
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#236 quikdash6
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="quikdash6"][QUOTE="Big_Bad_Sad"] I'd never spend money on a Nissan

Then you sir, are an idiot. As for the OP, it depends on what you want. The M3 is the better overall car. More usable seating and better quality all around. However, if you're looking to race, with the money you save on the GT you can make it destroy an M3. Even with just some stiffer shocks the Mustang GT will be faster around the track. Not to mention, at least here in the states, when something breaks on the Mustang, it will be much cheaper to replace.

Actually the smart choice would just be to buy a GT Mustang and Turbo it, there's no beating cubic inches, the only reason the GTR can even hold its own against modern day v8s(Corvettes) is because it's turbo charged about three times.

Actually the GTR is a twin turbo engine. My comment though, was just that the guy was an idiot for saying he would never spend money on a Nissan and now he says they are ****. That part of my comment had nothing to do with the M3 vs. Mustang GT debate.
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#239 quikdash6
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[QUOTE="quikdash6"][QUOTE="Big_Bad_Sad"] I'd never spend money on a Nissanthegerg
Then you sir, are an idiot. As for the OP, it depends on what you want. The M3 is the better overall car. More usable seating and better quality all around. However, if you're looking to race, with the money you save on the GT you can make it destroy an M3. Even with just some stiffer shocks the Mustang GT will be faster around the track. Not to mention, at least here in the states, when something breaks on the Mustang, it will be much cheaper to replace.

Why does not spending money on a Nissan make one an idiot?

It's not the fact of not spending money on the brand, it's the statement of "I'd NEVER spend money on a Nissan". This implies that he's so closed minded that given the choice between a Ford Fiesta (descent little car) and the Nissan GTR (supercar territory) he would not buy the Nissan even if money were not an issue. THAT would make someone an idiot.

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#240 josephl64
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to me, it's not worth the cost difference

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Get a LADA 1600! Trust me!

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#242 JasonDarksavior
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BMW any day. They have great power and have ultimate luxury as well. I sat in one the other day, I'll never forget it. Beautiful car.
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I own a BMW 325i, I spent a lot less then 60,000 on it, but I did spent a substantial amount, I never looked back.. its a great car, and I guarantee you it's built much better then any ford mustangimaps3fanboy
Then isn't the same as than.
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#244 Sunfyre7896
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If I had 60k, I'd get the Tesla Model S.

It would probably outlast both the Mustang and the BMW combined. Less moving parts, less maintenance. There is only one moving part: the rotor. Because of this, acceleration is instantaneous. MAX torque at 0RPM.

  • 0-60 in 5.6s (4.4s Performance Edition)
  • Instantaneous Torque (MAX @ 0RPM)
  • 300mi range
  • 45 min charge
  • Seats 7

http://www.teslamotors.com/models/features#/performance

Rikusaki

While that car is a seriously major BOOM, what do you do on road trips? Wait 45 minutes for every 300 miles? They're going to have to find a way to recharge like mini solar panels or wind driven energy from built in wind turbines that draw in the air from the front that kick in on the highway over a certain speed. Waiting for that long every time you stop kind of sucks.

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#246 Big_Bad_Sad
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It's not the fact of not spending money on the brand, it's the statement of "I'd NEVER spend money on a Nissan". This implies that he's so closed minded that given the choice between a Ford Fiesta (descent little car) and the Nissan GTR (supercar territory) he would not buy the Nissan even if money were not an issue. THAT would make someone an idiot.

quikdash6

Comparing buying a Fiesta to a 60k car is idiotic...

And if money wasnt an issue Id buy something much better than a Nissan.

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#247 JasonDarksavior
Member since 2008 • 9323 Posts

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It's not the fact of not spending money on the brand, it's the statement of "I'd NEVER spend money on a Nissan". This implies that he's so closed minded that given the choice between a Ford Fiesta (descent little car) and the Nissan GTR (supercar territory) he would not buy the Nissan even if money were not an issue. THAT would make someone an idiot.

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Comparing buying a Fiesta to a 60k car is idiotic...

And if money wasnt an issue Id buy something much better than a Nissan.

Man I wish the GTR was $60,000. It's $100,000 AUD here minimum.
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#248 m3Boarder32
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[QUOTE="Big_Bad_Sad"]

[QUOTE="quikdash6"]

It's not the fact of not spending money on the brand, it's the statement of "I'd NEVER spend money on a Nissan". This implies that he's so closed minded that given the choice between a Ford Fiesta (descent little car) and the Nissan GTR (supercar territory) he would not buy the Nissan even if money were not an issue. THAT would make someone an idiot.

JasonDarksavior

Comparing buying a Fiesta to a 60k car is idiotic...

And if money wasnt an issue Id buy something much better than a Nissan.

Man I wish the GTR was $60,000. It's $100,000 AUD here minimum.

No it starts at 90k USD, so about 98k after taxes (except Oregon, no sales tax bastards)
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#249 psychobrew
Member since 2008 • 8888 Posts
Are you seriously comparing plastic fantastic with performance luxury?