is religion the main reason women today are second class?

Fvck feminism

Fvck feminism.GazaAli

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]Fvck feminism.kraychik

[QUOTE="kraychik"][QUOTE="GazaAli"]Fvck feminism.GazaAli

Oh I see so it makes it all ok then :roll:

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="kraychik"] Women are certainly second-class citizens in Gaza.sSubZerOo

Oh I see so it makes it all ok then :roll:

This was a reference about how its not religion's fault for women being 2nd class in some areas of the world.GazaAli

Fvck feminism.GazaAli

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[QUOTE="GazaAli"] The ones who are simply are because of social norms...etcGazaAli

Oh I see so it makes it all ok then :roll:

Fvck feminism

mahlasor

But, I realize its more fun to grasp at a reason to bash on religion in GS OT, so, let the fun continue without reason and logic getting in the way.collegeboy64

What is this about?FMAB_GTO

What is this about?FMAB_GTO

[QUOTE="collegeboy64"]But, I realize its more fun to grasp at a reason to bash on religion in GS OT, so, let the fun continue without reason and logic getting in the way.ZumaJones07

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]This was a reference about how its not religion's fault for women being 2nd class in some areas of the world.ZumaJones07

Women being second class is a thing of the past. Whether the reason is religion or not, the fact is women are capable of doing what ever a man can in most scenarios. I also want to point out that feminism is stupid as hell too. Those kinds of women don't help their cause, they make it worse.

Women being second class is a thing of the past. Whether the reason is religion or not, the fact is women are capable of doing what ever a man can in most scenarios. I also want to point out that feminism is stupid as hell too. Those kinds of women don't help their cause, they make it worse.

KamuiFei

[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"][QUOTE="GazaAli"]This was a reference about how its not religion's fault for women being 2nd class in some areas of the world.kraychik

Are you against religion?collegeboy64

Women being second class is a thing of the past. Whether the reason is religion or not, the fact is women are capable of doing what ever a man can in most scenarios. I also want to point out that feminism is stupid as hell too. Those kinds of women don't help their cause, they make it worse.

KamuiFei

[QUOTE="KamuiFei"]

Women being second class is a thing of the past. Whether the reason is religion or not, the fact is women are capable of doing what ever a man can in most scenarios. I also want to point out that feminism is stupid as hell too. Those kinds of women don't help their cause, they make it worse.

kraychik

Yea, thats my point with the feminists, they only make the notion that women aren't equal, when statistically its not true (in developed countries). Unfortunately, third world countries still think following their religion blindly is how the real world works, thus women there don't really know any better...

[QUOTE="kraychik"][QUOTE="KamuiFei"]

Women being second class is a thing of the past. Whether the reason is religion or not, the fact is women are capable of doing what ever a man can in most scenarios. I also want to point out that feminism is stupid as hell too. Those kinds of women don't help their cause, they make it worse.

KamuiFei

Yea, thats my point with the feminists, they only make the notion that women aren't equal, when statistically its not true (in developed countries). Unfortunately, third world countries still think following their religion blindly is how the real world works, thus women there don't really know any better...

Fvck feminism.GazaAli

[QUOTE="collegeboy64"]Are you against religion?ZumaJones07

women have been second class all over the world pretty much everywhere and anywhere in our whole history. Sure there maybe the odd exception but you cant blame it on religion. By saying its religions fault you are saying all of them make women look bad which is a lie.

When older, white men predominately make legislation on women's issues, there will still be sexism. Like now.

Women make about 82 cents on the dollar compared tomen in the US, depending on which study you see.

You know, cultures are probably the reason. BranKetra

the only true answer.

When older, white men predominately make legislation on women's issues, there will still be sexism. Like now.

Women make about 82 cents on the dollar compared tomen in the US, depending on which study you see.

jimkabrhel

When older, white men predominately make legislation on women's issues, there will still be sexism. Like now.

Women make about 82 cents on the dollar compared tomen in the US, depending on which study you see.

jimkabrhel

There's this thing in life called pregnancy, and it discriminates against women, since it doesn't affect men.kraychik

...It certainly doesn't affect men - that is, men who leave most of the child-rearing and housekeeping to their partners, even if their partners also have careers. And a lot of families in America are like that.

You also fail to notice that many women (not all) face discrimination in regards to promotion - and I'm not just talking about mothers. Sexism, as I have said, is still pervasive, And it has real consequences.

[QUOTE="kraychik"]There's this thing in life called pregnancy, and it discriminates against women, since it doesn't affect men.ghoklebutter

...It certainly doesn't affect men - that is, men who leave most of the child-rearing and housekeeping to their partners, even if their partners also have careers. And a lot of families in America are like that.

You also fail to notice that many women (not all) face discrimination in regards to promotion - and I'm not just talking about mothers. Sexism, as I have said, is still pervasive, And it has real consequences.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

When older, white men predominately make legislation on women's issues, there will still be sexism. Like now.

Women make about 82 cents on the dollar compared tomen in the US, depending on which study you see.

ghoklebutter

I know there is definitely some sexism involved in that, but there is also the fact that some men can simply outwork their female counterparts at their job.

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

When older, white men predominately make legislation on women's issues, there will still be sexism. Like now.

Women make about 82 cents on the dollar compared tomen in the US, depending on which study you see.

Optical_Order

I know there is definitely some sexism involved in that, but there is also the fact that some men can simply outwork their female counterparts at their job.

In what industries/careers?

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

[QUOTE="kraychik"]There's this thing in life called pregnancy, and it discriminates against women, since it doesn't affect men.kraychik

...It certainly doesn't affect men - that is, men who leave most of the child-rearing and housekeeping to their partners, even if their partners also have careers. And a lot of families in America are like that.

You also fail to notice that many women (not all) face discrimination in regards to promotion - and I'm not just talking about mothers. Sexism, as I have said, is still pervasive, And it has real consequences.

I was about to try to see things your way, but since you politicized the issue and brought your political bias, there's no reason to bother.

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

[QUOTE="kraychik"]There's this thing in life called pregnancy, and it discriminates against women, since it doesn't affect men.kraychik

...It certainly doesn't affect men - that is, men who leave most of the child-rearing and housekeeping to their partners, even if their partners also have careers. And a lot of families in America are like that.

You also fail to notice that many women (not all) face discrimination in regards to promotion - and I'm not just talking about mothers. Sexism, as I have said, is still pervasive, And it has real consequences.

[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] But that's just ******** propaganda! It can't possibly be true.jimkabrhel

I know there is definitely some sexism involved in that, but there is also the fact that some men can simply outwork their female counterparts at their job.

In what industries/careers?

Anything. Like I said, I'm not denying sexism, but it is also the case that men can simply outwork females. I don't see why that's an impossible scenario.

Especially when it comes to physical labor jobs. Most men are stronger and can therefore be more productive at their job, so you pay them more.

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

When older, white men predominately make legislation on women's issues, there will still be sexism. Like now.

Women make about 82 cents on the dollar compared tomen in the US, depending on which study you see.

Optical_Order

I know there is definitely some sexism involved in that, but there is also the fact that some men can simply outwork their female counterparts at their job.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

I know there is definitely some sexism involved in that, but there is also the fact that some men can simply outwork their female counterparts at their job.

Optical_Order

In what industries/careers?

Anything. Like I said, I'm not denying sexism, but it is also the case that men can simply outwork females. I don't see why that's an impossible scenario.

Especially when it comes to physical labor jobs. Most men are stronger and can therefore be more productive at their job, so you pay them more.

It has nothing to do with religion.

And yeah, fvck feminism. It made sense in its early years, now it's a ridiculous farce and most so-called feminists are huge hypocrites.