Is your sexuality just like any other choice?

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#101 Assassin_87
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Hard to say. I think a lot of the reason homosexuality is looked upon as vile or wrong in our society is because of the prominence and importance we give to the Mosaic Laws. If you look at ancient Greece, heterosexual unions had to be mandated as a form of population maintenance because of how widespread same-sex relationships were, and that was a simple difference of cultural perspective.

I'm not saying it's 100% choice, because studies that I've seen compel me to think otherwise, and I could never bring myself to have any sort of sexual contact with another man. I do, however, believe that it's at least somewhat an issue of social conformity that starts early in life. Again I'd point to the relatively casual stance of the Greek and Roman empires on homosexuality as supporting evidence. It was such a different world from ours.

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#102 Bucked20
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[QUOTE="Bucked20"]No,but some people do choose their sexuality l4dak47
You just contradicted yourself. As for me, I consider sexuality as something that you were born with.

People are born gay,people are born straight but lets not act like its impossible to choose your sexuality,experimenting and being curious can lead to someone becoming gay
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#103 theone86
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You choose to act on feelings. Like high functioning psychopaths. Say a person likes to beat up on things, so instead of assaulting everyone they hone that tendency into being a MMA fighter. Not saying all MMA fighters are psychopaths (debatable).

You choose to act out on gay/lesbian tendancies. You're not forced to do it.

The biggest argument is comparing it to race. Yeah that's not cool. Why? I'm sure a Black person can't act on their skin colour as a gay person can act on their actions.

My opinion is fact until I decide to change my opinion, then the new opinion becomes fact. :)

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Alright, prove it's so easy to not act on sexual urges by never having sex again in your life.

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#104 chaoscougar1
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Bucked20"]No,but some people do choose their sexuality Bucked20
You just contradicted yourself. As for me, I consider sexuality as something that you were born with.

People are born gay,people are born straight but lets not act like its impossible to choose your sexuality,experimenting and being curious can lead to someone becoming gay

Personal experience?
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You choose to act on feelings. Like high functioning psychopaths. Say a person likes to beat up on things, so instead of assaulting everyone they hone that tendency into being a MMA fighter. Not saying all MMA fighters are psychopaths (debatable).

You choose to act out on gay/lesbian tendancies. You're not forced to do it.

The biggest argument is comparing it to race. Yeah that's not cool. Why? I'm sure a Black person can't act on their skin colour as a gay person can act on their actions.

My opinion is fact until I decide to change my opinion, then the new opinion becomes fact. :)

lowkey254

However, sexuality only requires that you have certain feelings aimed at a certain sex(es), not that you also act upon those feelings.

Therefore, your opinion is irrelevant to the specific question posed by the TC.

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#106 ghoklebutter
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My opinion is fact until I decide to change my opinion, then the new opinion becomes fact. :)

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Why even argue with anyone, then?

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#108 Bucked20
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="Bucked20"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] You just contradicted yourself. As for me, I consider sexuality as something that you were born with.

People are born gay,people are born straight but lets not act like its impossible to choose your sexuality,experimenting and being curious can lead to someone becoming gay

Personal experience?

Ive seen a lot of girls that were straight turn into full blown lesbians over the years
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#109 kingkong0124
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Sometimes. There obviously is an aspect of choice involved however, look at prison.

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#110 -TheSecondSign-
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You choose to act on feelings. Like high functioning psychopaths. Say a person likes to beat up on things, so instead of assaulting everyone they hone that tendency into being a MMA fighter. Not saying all MMA fighters are psychopaths (debatable).

You choose to act out on gay/lesbian tendancies. You're not forced to do it.

The biggest argument is comparing it to race. Yeah that's not cool. Why? I'm sure a Black person can't act on their skin colour as a gay person can act on their actions.

My opinion is fact until I decide to change my opinion, then the new opinion becomes fact. :)

lowkey254

It is not advisable to ignore your sexuality. Eventually, it comes out.

You can't just choose to ignore your sexual identity. It's part of who you are.

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#111 kingkong0124
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[QUOTE="Bucked20"] Ive seen a lot of girls that were straight turn into full blown lesbians over the years

Ignore him. He sees himself as some sort of modern day crusader fighting for good.
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#112 Teenaged
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Sometimes. There obviously is an aspect of choice involved however, look at prison.

kingkong0124

If I was that horny I'd probably f*** a chick.

I hope that doesnt happen cause then I'll have to give up my gay card. =[

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#113 chaoscougar1
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Bucked20"] Ive seen a lot of girls that were straight turn into full blown lesbians over the years

Ignore him. He sees himself as some sort of modern day crusader fighting for good.

I do? Can I be a knight? Sir Chaos
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#114 Jazz_Fan
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In the sense that we don't have one... Yeah.

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#115 lx_theo
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Sometimes. There obviously is an aspect of choice involved however, look at prison.

kingkong0124
It just means the sexual acts gratify the built up sexual cravings. It doesn't have any part whether you are attracted to the person, which is what sexuality is about. No?
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#116 ShadowMoses900
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I don't think it's a conscious choice, you don't wake up one moring and say "I think I'll be gay today", it doesn't work like that, your still going to find women attractive and not men. There are studies that have been done, but they are all unreliable as they are done for agenda reasons and funded by special interest groups (this goes for both sides of the debate), there is no solid evidence one way or another to confirm that sexuality is a choice or born with.

In my personal opinion, I think it's due to a development process. It's what happens to you as you age and come into your sexuality, the brain is very complex, it's not really a "on" or "off" switch, it's like a turning of gears and wires. And this can become developed or wired to do different things, sometimes it can cause someone to develop homosexual feelings or identity.

I believe it's psychological, people who are searching for a gay gene will never find one, because it doens't exist. It can't, it is not evolutionary possible for a gay gene to have been passed down in humans. Also genes don't work like that, they can influence some things but there is no gene that profound or powerful to override someone's sexuality. There are straight women that went gay after their bad boy friends, conversely there have been some gay men who became straight.

Like I said, the brain is very complex and I think it's a developmental process that determines someone's sexuality. Not a concious choice and not a gene. But that doesn't matter, the important thing is that we treat gay people with respect and love and make sure they have equal rights like all of us, which is what God wants.

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#117 Dark_Knight6
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Homosexuality is definitely a choice. Personally, I chose to be gay shortly after choosing to be tall.

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#118 br0kenrabbit
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That doesnt make it different than any other choice. Only proves my point that either everything is a choice or everything is fate.

slipknot0129

So you can decide to be sexually attracted to men and then suddenly you find men sexually attractive? Bullsh1t. I couldn't find men sexually attractive if I wanted to.

I never woke up one morning and decided I liked girls. All I know is my dick started getting hard around age 12 when Shannon Spurlock wore that tight ass white miniskirt that showed the outline of her ass just so.

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#119 ThisIsTwoFace
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Its like choosing who you fall in love with.. YOU CANT.

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#120 dagreenfish
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Deciding between lucky charms or Cheerios for breakfast is a choice. The people you are attracted to is not.
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#121 Netherscourge
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I drink lactose-free milk because of my stomach reflux.

Occasionally, though, I try Soy Milk. Not a big fan of it, but once in a while I try it out.

Heck - I even drink regular milk too - but in limited quantities.

Am I weird because I drink Lactose Free milk? Is it really a "choice" if I'll suffer pain and discomfort drinking regular milk?

Bottom Line - Milk is serious business.

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#122 Smokescreened84
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Sexuality is not a choice, it's just one of those things that people are born with and depends on the part of the brain that developed within the womb and as the brain developed after that determines in later life the sexual feelings we'll feel as we enter puberty and become adults. For some it can take years until they understand the feelings they have in regards of sexual attraction, while for others it can set in a lot earlier. It's a random thing, there is no choice involved, nor is there any way to know if that person will be heterosexual, homosexual, bi-sexual, pan-sexual and so on until later in life when those feelings settle and the person comes to terms with themselves. No one chooses who they are sexually attracted to.
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#123 ThisIsTwoFace
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^Thats not funny.

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#124 Netherscourge
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Doesn't matter if it's a choice or not.

It really doesn't.

Anything from personal preference, to inner feelings/stirrings, to environmental surroundings, to peer pressure to dramatic life events/experiences can either determine or bias you toward a sexual preference and it can change over time or remain static forever.

What matters is that there are so many different factors that determine an individual's sexuality, both controllable and uncontrollable, that there shouldn't be any restrictions in society based on your sexual preference.

To assume any one reason for sexual preference is pure misinformed ignorance.

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#125 theone86
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Sometimes. There obviously is an aspect of choice involved however, look at prison.

kingkong0124

Just because certain people choose to engage in homosexual acts does not mean that homosexuality is a choice.

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#126 theone86
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Bucked20"] Ive seen a lot of girls that were straight turn into full blown lesbians over the years chaoscougar1
Ignore him. He sees himself as some sort of modern day crusader fighting for good.

I do? Can I be a knight? Sir Chaos

Sorry, xaos owns that title.

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#127 Chris_Williams
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me personally I think its something going on in the brain, nothing wrong with being gay either, i have a few gay friends and they are cool as f*ck but the purpose of humans at the end of the day is to procreate and spread our genes, we have that natural instinct and its distilled in us.

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I don't think it's as simple as everyone makes it out to be but people don't get up one day and just decide that they'll be straight, gay bi or whatever.
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#129 MannyDelgado
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me personally I think its something going on in the brain, nothing wrong with being gay either, i have a few gay friends and they are cool as f*ck but the purpose of humans at the end of the day is to procreate and spread our genes, we have that natural instinct and its distilled in us.

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Mentally, everything is something going on in the brain

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#130 Deihjan
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You don't really choose what turns you on. I know I don't get to choose who turns me on. Nature made me pretty much pansexual, but that doesn't mean I'm not picky.
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#131 layton2012
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I don't really think it is a choice, I truly think it is how you're are raised, your role models and what happens in your life that decides your sexuality, though I do think your born with it to an extent.
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#132 Ace6301
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I never made a choice to my knowledge. I never sat down one day and went "Do I want to f*ck girls or guys?". When I hit sexual maturity I wanted to f*ck girls. Honestly if I did have a choice I would have chosen bi, cause the more the merrier, right? However I don't find the male body attractive at all. I can't imagine it's too different for gay dudes. If you do find yourself having that choice moment I'd imagine you're probably bi or gay and in denial.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Sometimes. There obviously is an aspect of choice involved however, look at prison.

theone86

Just because certain people choose to engage in homosexual acts does not mean that homosexuality is a choice.

For some odd reason Prison anal rape is also a fairly North American concept. It's not nearly as prevalent elsewhere and in fact we kind of get sh*t for it.
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#134 noscope-ak47
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Why is such a complex issue here not sure if there is a yes or no answer for everybody.

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#135 Ernesto_basic
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I don't think the issue is black and white. There are those who are genetically wired to be either hetero or homo sexual, while there are others who, I believe anyway, have either learned or have chosen to live a hetero/homo/bisexual "lifestyle." Is it a clear-cut choice for all? No, but there are obviously some who do chose one way or another.

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#136 NailedGR
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Do you think your sexuality is just like any other choice you make in life?

People say that you have no choice in your sexuality but I disagree with that. Mainly because choosing to be straight is like choosing anything else in life.

Its one of those things that can never be proved. I think people say they are born that way just to not feel as scared of hell.

slipknot0129

Could you choose to fall in love with and continually have sexual contact with another man without feeling totally disgusted?

If not, it is pretty clear that it is not a choice.

If so, then you are gay.

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I never made a choice to my knowledge. I never sat down one day and went "Do I want to f*ck girls or guys?". When I hit sexual maturity I wanted to f*ck girls. Honestly if I did have a choice I would have chosen bi, cause the more the merrier, right? However I don't find the male body attractive at all. I can't imagine it's too different for gay dudes. If you do find yourself having that choice moment I'd imagine you're probably bi or gay and in denial. [QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Sometimes. There obviously is an aspect of choice involved however, look at prison.

Ace6301

Just because certain people choose to engage in homosexual acts does not mean that homosexuality is a choice.

For some odd reason Prison anal rape is also a fairly North American concept. It's not nearly as prevalent elsewhere and in fact we kind of get sh*t for it.

I think it happens a lot less than we're led to believe (one source said 3.7% of inmates were raped and 10% had engaged in intercourse). That's still a high rate though. In my brief search I got the impression that a lot of times the prison staff is complacent about it, which leads me to think it has a lot to do with the attitude we take towards prisoners in general.

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#138 Bane_09
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No, do some f*cking research

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#139 Serraph105
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so you are bisexual then TC? That's the only way I can see people having a choice in the matter.

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#141 Audacitron
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Do you think your sexuality is just like any other choice you make in life?

People say that you have no choice in your sexuality but I disagree with that. Mainly because choosing to be straight is like choosing anything else in life.

Its one of those things that can never be proved. I think people say they are born that way just to not feel as scared of hell.

slipknot0129

you are clearly bisexual. Have fun with it. God won't mind.

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Like a pizza topping?
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[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"]Again TC you are a fool, i could not go out and decide that hey i want to be gay today pick up a man sleep with him and suddenly be ok about it. At the end of the day i would still be straight.slipknot0129

I like Xbox 360 better than Ps3. I could not suddenly like ps3 then the be ok that I like ps3. When my mind has it that Xbox 360 is better. See your only proving my point.

You lost all creditably now.
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#144 shadowkiller11
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"]

so you are bisexual then TC? That's the only way I can see people having a choice in the matter.

thegerg
That makes no sense. Straight people and gay people don't choose their orientation, but bisexual people do? WTF are you talking about?

Because they choose what gender to sleep with at that given moment at time. That's how his seeing it I think.
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#145 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"]

so you are bisexual then TC? That's the only way I can see people having a choice in the matter.

thegerg
That makes no sense. Straight people and gay people don't choose their orientation, but bisexual people do? WTF are you talking about?

I'm not saying that you have a choice in being attracted to both sexes if you are bisexual, but you can choose to (more or less) be with a woman or a man because neither one disgusting to have sex with to you.
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#147 Darksonic666
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Of course it's not a choice !!! I like all other straight people were born straight.

Now I didn't wake up one day and say hey you know what ? I think I want to be sexually attracted to women to day.

No it just happened as I got older.

This goes for all other sexuality's as well.

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#149 Darksonic666
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[QUOTE="Darksonic666"]

Of course it's not a choice !!! I like all other straight people were born straight.

Now I didn't wake up one day and say hey you know what ? I think I want to be sexually attracted to women to day.

No it just happened as I got older.

This goes for all other sexuality's as well.

thegerg

What makes you think that anyone is born either straight or gay?

What are you talking about ?