Is your sexuality just like any other choice?

Is it just me or did TC go from saying everything is a choice to nothing is a choice?

Thuganomic05

I try to believe there is choice in life.

People can believe sexuality isnt a choice but thats their belief. To comfort them for when they think of god judging them.

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Is it just me or did TC go from saying everything is a choice to nothing is a choice?

slipknot0129

I try to believe there is choice in life.

People can believe sexuality isnt a choice but thats their belief. To comfort them for when they think of god judging them.

People say that you have no choice in your sexuality but I disagree with that.

slipknot0129

What we do is controlled by our brain. Thus, what we like is because of the brain. Nothing is a choice.slipknot0129

Ignorance or stupidity?

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Is it just me or did TC go from saying everything is a choice to nothing is a choice?

slipknot0129

I try to believe there is choice in life.

People can believe sexuality isnt a choice but thats their belief. To comfort them for when they think of god judging them.

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[QUOTE="Thuganomic05"]

Is it just me or did TC go from saying everything is a choice to nothing is a choice?

harashawn

I try to believe there is choice in life.

People can believe sexuality isnt a choice but thats their belief. To comfort them for when they think of god judging them.

[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]You can believe what you want. But in reality, there is no choice.

I try to believe there is choice in life.

People can believe sexuality isnt a choice but thats their belief. To comfort them for when they think of god judging them.

slipknot0129

[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]You can believe what you want. But in reality, there is no choice.

I try to believe there is choice in life.

People can believe sexuality isnt a choice but thats their belief. To comfort them for when they think of god judging them.

slipknot0129

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[QUOTE="harashawn"] God is going to judge everyone. I think you need to ask yourself which He would be more displeased over: Someone's attractions, or someone's hate toward others because of their attractions. Compared to God, nobody is good, and judging others is far from anything resembling good.Thuganomic05

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[QUOTE="harashawn"] God is going to judge everyone. I think you need to ask yourself which He would be more displeased over: Someone's attractions, or someone's hate toward others because of their attractions. Compared to God, nobody is good, and judging others is far from anything resembling good.Thuganomic05

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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]They think the phrase "I was born this way." will negate their sin and allow them into heaven.

harashawn

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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]They think the phrase "I was born this way." will negate their sin and allow them into heaven.

slipknot0129

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[QUOTE="Thuganomic05"] Actually, there's no such thing as a gay Christian. Even if they consider themselves a Christian, they're not one in God's eyes... Perhaps they say that because... I don't know - they were?

thegerg

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[QUOTE="Thuganomic05"] Actually, there's no such thing as a gay Christian. Even if they consider themselves a Christian, they're not one in God's eyes... Perhaps they say that because... I don't know - they were?

Thuganomic05

[QUOTE="Thuganomic05"][QUOTE="harashawn"] Does the same go for hateful or judgemental "Christians"?harashawn

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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]Its how gay's justify still being a christian.

thegerg

[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="Thuganomic05"] Except - like I said... gays aren't Christians. You can't be gay and be a Christian... that's called contradicting.Thuganomic05

[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]When you are born you make barely any choices. Even less likely complicated ones like sexuality. We make choices all the time. I cant remember every choice ive made down to the day and second.

slipknot0129

I know genetics determine what a person does and the choices they make. Like food, you eat what your tast buds tell you that you like.

Everything you do is controlled by the brain. By that logic, you cant make choices in anything.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

[QUOTE="Thuganomic05"][QUOTE="thegerg"]
Sure you can. Being a Christian is simply believing that Christ was the son of God.thegerg

Not according to the Bible. You must ask for forgiveness of your sins and be baptized. Continuously asking for forgiveness (example: for being a homosexual) would not be acceptable to God. That'd be like telling your spouse/girlfriend sorry, every time you cheated on them... you obviously don't plan on changing and the apologies are just a way out of a bad situation.

Question: Do you think the bible should be followed to the letter?

That's why it was written, no? The Old Testament is meant to be for our learning, and does not apply to us, because Jesus died for our sins. The New Testament is to be "followed to the letter".

[QUOTE="Thuganomic05"][QUOTE="thegerg"] Sure you can. Being a Christian is simply believing that Christ was the son of God.thegerg

[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]They did suicide from the stress they got from the choice they made to be gay Everthing is a choice, dont mean your choices arent consequence free.

I live like everythings a choice but exist in a choice free reality.

slipknot0129

Nope I didnt choose what color my eyes are. It only proves that nothing in life is a choice.

What we do is controlled by our brain. Thus, what we like is because of the brain. Nothing is a choice.

But we like to think we have a choice.

[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="Thuganomic05"] Not according to the Bible. You must ask for forgiveness of your sins and be baptized. Continuously asking for forgiveness (example: for being a homosexual) would not be acceptable to God. That'd be like telling your spouse/girlfriend sorry, every time you cheated on them... you obviously don't plan on changing and the apologies are just a way out of a bad situation. Thuganomic05

[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="Thuganomic05"] Not according to the Bible. You must ask for forgiveness of your sins and be baptized. Continuously asking for forgiveness (example: for being a homosexual) would not be acceptable to God. That'd be like telling your spouse/girlfriend sorry, every time you cheated on them... you obviously don't plan on changing and the apologies are just a way out of a bad situation. Thuganomic05

Finally, the "those who participate in homosexuality" part refers to those who act upon their desires. That is consistent with the other reference to homosexuality in the Bible where homosexual acts are condemned, not simply being gay and as any sane person knows, homosexual acts arent a prerequisite for being a homosexual.

Therefore your claim that you cant be gay and a Christian is false, based on the book you cited.

Congrats.

Regarding the discussion of the legitimacy of the concept of gay Christians, is it impossible for Christians to sin?Genetic_Code

Oh I love it when Bible-nerds disagree with each other. It makes one so confident that Christianity is the right religion.

Yet nobody can prove that every choice you make cant be traced back genetics. Until that happens then sexuality is a choice.

I know genetics determine what a person does and the choices they make. Like food, you eat what your tast buds tell you that you like.

Everything you do is controlled by the brain. By that logic, you cant make choices in anything.

slipknot0129

I will say that some peoples sexuality choice is obvious and they wont change.

Also the only reason people say everything is a choice but sexuality is not, is because of the fear of god.

slipknot0129

[QUOTE="Ace6301"]You know normally this would be an insult but I'm actually asking this out of curiosity this time: TC are you high. Like seriously. Are you?slipknot0129

Sexuality being a choice or not isnt a science thing. Its whatever people believe.

Obviously people are going to disagree to something they dont believe in.

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Is it just me or did TC go from saying everything is a choice to nothing is a choice?

slipknot0129

I try to believe there is choice in life.

People can believe sexuality isnt a choice but thats their belief. To comfort them for when they think of god judging them.

Holy fvck
Seriously

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[QUOTE="thegerg"] Nowhere in the Bible does it say that being gay is wrong or is something that needs to be forgiven. Ace6301

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[QUOTE="thegerg"] Nowhere in the Bible does it say that being gay is wrong or is something that needs to be forgiven. Teenaged

Finally, the "those who participate in homosexuality" part refers to those who act upon their desires. That is consistent with the other reference to homosexuality in the Bible where homosexual acts are condemned, not simply being gay and as any sane person knows, homosexual acts arent a prerequisite for being a homosexual.

Therefore your claim that you cant be gay and a Christian is false, based on the book you cited.

Congrats.

Being baptized guarantees going to Heaven..

Homosexuality isn't just having sex with the same gender - it's also lust.. Homosexual tendancies?

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Thuganomic05"] Corinthians 1 6:9-10 "Do you not know that the unrighteous and the wrongdoers will not inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived (misled): neither the impure and immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor those who participate in homosexuality"

Thuganomic05

What now?

We still havent established if the translation you gave is the correct one. The word of the original text is arsenokoitai and, unless you're aware of some special meaning of the word, it literally translates to "those who bed with men". That clearly refers to homosexual acts, not just homosexual feelings.

[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"]Regarding the discussion of the legitimacy of the concept of gay Christians, is it impossible for Christians to sin?Teenaged

Oh I love it when Bible-nerds disagree with each other. It makes one so confident that Christianity is the right religion.

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[QUOTE="Thuganomic05"] Corinthians 1 6:9-10 "Do you not know that the unrighteous and the wrongdoers will not inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived (misled): neither the impure and immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor those who participate in homosexuality"

Thuganomic05

Finally, the "those who participate in homosexuality" part refers to those who act upon their desires. That is consistent with the other reference to homosexuality in the Bible where homosexual acts are condemned, not simply being gay and as any sane person knows, homosexual acts arent a prerequisite for being a homosexual.

Therefore your claim that you cant be gay and a Christian is false, based on the book you cited.

Congrats.

Being baptized guarantees going to Heaven..

Homosexuality isn't just having sex with the same gender - it's also lust.. Homosexual tendancies?

Did I say otherwise?

What I said is that the Bible condemns only the homosexuals who act upon their desires, not those who simply have homosexual urges/feelings but remain celibate.

[QUOTE="Thuganomic05"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] That says participating in homosexuality. You can be gay and not have sex if you didn't know. Not to mention the original writing is more akin to "sodomites" or "those who bed men (while being a man)"Teenaged

What now?

We still havent established if the translation you gave is the correct one. The word of the original text is arsenokoitai and, unless you're aware of some special meaning of the word, it literally translates to "those who bed with men". That clearly refers to homosexual acts, not just homosexual feelings.

That's what homosexuality is, "A person who is sexually attracted to the same sex." Homosexuality isn't (just) having sex with someone of the same sex...

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[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"]Regarding the discussion of the legitimacy of the concept of gay Christians, is it impossible for Christians to sin?Thuganomic05

Oh I love it when Bible-nerds disagree with each other. It makes one so confident that Christianity is the right religion.

However since everyone sins and all the time, including Christians, you argument doesnt make sense.