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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

For the nth time, I told you the source of my sceen name and gave you a link. I have told you that I do not hold the offensive beliefs you have implied that I do.

You are getting on very thin ice by implying and suggesting things about me that are offensive and are not true. I have explained the source of my screen name as related to heros from the War of Independence and you continue to try to intentionally link it instead to beliefs and opinions that I find very offensive and do not hold. What are your real motives?

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i just asked you to please tell us what your views are, we just wanted to know if you held the same beliefs as many modern day black regiment revivalists. i apologize if i offend, i'm just trying to get you to answer the original question. do you align yourself with modern black regiment revivalists. i have no motives other than discerning what your actual beliefs are on certain subjects. you keep just telling us the information we're getting is wrong - but i don't care about the history, tell me what you believe. please see the questions in my previous post.

For the nth time, I told you the source of my sceen name and gave you a link. I have told you that I do not hold the offensive beliefs you have implied that I do. I would suggest that you take ElRaptor's advice and back off of the false picture you are trying to intentionally paint.

no, this is actually the first time you denied. it's funny you would use Chuck Baldwin for a source, then deny some of those claims though. i was not wrong in asserting them, and was not trying to paint a false picture. i'm just going by what i've read today that Chuck Baldwin has written. again, sorry for the offense, honest mistake given your source, and your avatar name. but i must be mistaken. have a good day, won't bother you anymore.

people, just do yourselves a favor and research Chuck Baldwin - just so you know I wasn't wrong in my assertations. Chuck is pretty open about his beliefs.

and again, black regiment, i apologize. you must be able to see how i would make the mistake given Chuck's history. no offense intended, if anything i wanted to be sure you didn't believe everything Chuck does - if that is any comfort.

i have the utmost of respect for all religion - but that respect ends when someones faith impedes upon the rights and freedoms of another human being. that is why i wanted to know if you align yourself with modern day 'black regiment revivalists' like Chuck Baldwin.

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#353 blackregiment
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Blackregiment...you insulted me several times in this thread and you didn't see me get angry. He only asked you a question. If you don't want to answer him...just say so.LJS9502_basic

I have not insulted you. You are contantly calling Biblical Christians "self-righteous", etc. because we believe and try to live by the Word of God. I have given you my beliefs and supported i with Scripture, something you rarely do unless you pull out the old "judge not" defense. If anything you have insulted Crush by suggesting that he didn't know what a Christian was.

Best thing to do is end this discussion and in the future don't respond to me or any other Biblical Christian and we won't respond to you. It was that way for awhile but twice lately you have initiated things wih Biblical Christians and we will support our beliefs with the Word of God.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Blackregiment...you insulted me several times in this thread and you didn't see me get angry. He only asked you a question. If you don't want to answer him...just say so.blackregiment

I have not insulted you. You are contantly calling Biblical Christians "self-righteous", etc. because we believe and try to live by the Word of God. I have given you my beliefs and supported i with Scripture, something you rarely do unless you pull out the old "judge not" defense. If anything you have insulted Crush by suggesting that he didn't know what a Christin was.

Still you continue. You made several snarky insulting comments to me throughout this thread. And if one doesn't know that Cathloics are Christians...then one does not know what Christian means.
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#355 blackregiment
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[QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="3picuri3"] i just asked you to please tell us what your views are, we just wanted to know if you held the same beliefs as many modern day black regiment revivalists. i apologize if i offend, i'm just trying to get you to answer the original question. do you align yourself with modern black regiment revivalists. i have no motives other than discerning what your actual beliefs are on certain subjects. you keep just telling us the information we're getting is wrong - but i don't care about the history, tell me what you believe. please see the questions in my previous post. 3picuri3

For the nth time, I told you the source of my sceen name and gave you a link. I have told you that I do not hold the offensive beliefs you have implied that I do. I would suggest that you take ElRaptor's advice and back off of the false picture you are trying to intentionally paint.

no, this is actually the first time you denied. it's funny you would use Chuck Baldwin for a source, then deny some of those claims though. i was not wrong in asserting them, and was not trying to paint a false picture. i'm just going by what i've read today that Chuck Baldwin has written. again, sorry for the offense, honest mistake given your source, and your avatar name. but i must be mistaken. have a good day, won't bother you anymore.

people, just do yourselves a favor and research Chuck Baldwin - just so you know I wasn't wrong in my assertations. Chuck is pretty open about his beliefs.

and again, black regiment, i apologize. you must be able to see how i would make the mistake given Chuck's history. no offense intended, if anything i wanted to be sure you didn't believe everything Chuck does - if that is any comfort.

i have the utmost of respect for all religion - but that respect ends when someones faith impedes upon the rights and freedoms of another human being. that is why i wanted to know if you align yourself with modern day 'black regiment revivalists' like Chuck Baldwin.

What part of the statement, "I respect the right of anyone to hold any belief they choose but I do not consider all beliefs as equally valid and will defend my beliefs with the Word of God", don't you understand?

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[Best thing to do is end this discussion and in the future don't respond to me or any other Biblical Christian and we won't respond to you. It was that way for awhile but twice lately you have initiated things wih Biblical Christians and we will support our beliefs with the Word of God.

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You have no authority to tell me who or when I can respond to in this forum. I initiated nothing. I responded to an insult on my faith. Perhaps anti Catholic comments shouldn't be made.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Blackregiment...you insulted me several times in this thread and you didn't see me get angry. He only asked you a question. If you don't want to answer him...just say so.blackregiment

I have not insulted you. You are contantly calling Biblical Christians "self-righteous", etc. because we believe and try to live by the Word of God. I have given you my beliefs and supported i with Scripture, something you rarely do unless you pull out the old "judge not" defense. If anything you have insulted Crush by suggesting that he didn't know what a Christian was.

Best thing to do is end this discussion and in the future don't respond to me or any other Biblical Christian and we won't respond to you. It was that way for awhile but twice lately you have initiated things wih Biblical Christians and we will support our beliefs with the Word of God.

how is using a bible search engine any better than using the 'judge not' defense. at least he tried to base his reply on actual scriptural knowledge and not a keyword hit on a search engine. you have to admit, if you look through your scriptures quoted in this thread a ton of them have nothing to do with what is being discussed, but would come up if you had just searched for something (as they had similar key words). either way, i agree this is going nowhere.
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#358 blackregiment
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Blackregiment...you insulted me several times in this thread and you didn't see me get angry. He only asked you a question. If you don't want to answer him...just say so.LJS9502_basic

I have not insulted you. You are contantly calling Biblical Christians "self-righteous", etc. because we believe and try to live by the Word of God. I have given you my beliefs and supported i with Scripture, something you rarely do unless you pull out the old "judge not" defense. If anything you have insulted Crush by suggesting that he didn't know what a Christin was.

Still you continue. You made several snarky insulting comments to me throughout this thread. And if one doesn't know that Cathloics are Christians...then one does not know what Christian means.

I have never said that Catholics are not Christians. I have stated that Catholicism is not the same as Biblical Christianity, and the Catholic Chjurch agrees. I have also offered to debate you on that subject at a time and place of your choosing if you feel differently.

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I have never said that Catholics are not Christians. I have stated that Catholicism is not the same as Biblical Christianity, and the Catholic Chjurch agrees. I have also offered to debate you on that subject at a time and place of your choosing if you feel differently.

blackregiment
*sigh* I have no interest in your Biblical Christians negatively or positively...but I won't ignore an obvious attack on my faith. Did I say it was you that didn't know what a Christian was? Nope.....I did not. You got involved in a fight that wasn't yours for whatever reason and then attempt to shift the blame to me. Anyone who read through this thread knows who created the problem. Hint...it wasn't me.;)
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#360 blackregiment
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[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Blackregiment...you insulted me several times in this thread and you didn't see me get angry. He only asked you a question. If you don't want to answer him...just say so.3picuri3

I have not insulted you. You are contantly calling Biblical Christians "self-righteous", etc. because we believe and try to live by the Word of God. I have given you my beliefs and supported i with Scripture, something you rarely do unless you pull out the old "judge not" defense. If anything you have insulted Crush by suggesting that he didn't know what a Christian was.

Best thing to do is end this discussion and in the future don't respond to me or any other Biblical Christian and we won't respond to you. It was that way for awhile but twice lately you have initiated things wih Biblical Christians and we will support our beliefs with the Word of God.

how is using a bible search engine any better than using the 'judge not' defense. at least he tried to base his reply on actual scriptural knowledge and not a keyword hit on a search engine. you have to admit, if you look through your scriptures quoted in this thread a ton of them have nothing to do with what is being discussed, but would come up if you had just searched for something (as they had similar key words). either way, i agree this is going nowhere.

You sure base a lot on assumptions, You have no ida where I get my Scripture. If you do not understand Scripture and how it relates to why I have used it, then accept Christ and the Holy Spirit will guide you to the truth. Here is what the Bible says regardning non-believers having difficulty with spiritual things of God.

1Co 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
1Co 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
1Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1Co 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
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#361 blackregiment
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[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

I have never said that Catholics are not Christians. I have stated that Catholicism is not the same as Biblical Christianity, and the Catholic Chjurch agrees. I have also offered to debate you on that subject at a time and place of your choosing if you feel differently.

LJS9502_basic

*sigh* I have no interest in your Biblical Christians negatively or positively...but I won't ignore an obvious attack on my faith. Did I say it was you that didn't know what a Christian was? Nope.....I did not. You got involved in a fight that wasn't yours for whatever reason and then attempt to shift the blame to me. Anyone who read through this thread knows who created the problem. Hint...it wasn't me.;)

That's funny, I have not "attacked" your faith, and neither did Crush. You sure do like those dramatic words. I have not even discussed Catholicism on this thread in any depth at all. The offer is still open if you want to do that at a time and place of your choosing.

All I can say is this. In the future, don't take shots at Biblical Christianity and we will probably have nothing to discuss. I could care less what you believe or how you live your life but when you label Biblical Christians as "self-righteous" for trying to live righteously according to God's Word, then expect to be challenged with the Word of God because Christians are called to try and live righteous lives according to His Word. I challenge you to show me Scripture that states otherwise. .

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Im sorry but i find this thread utterly stupid and the claims of TC false in many ways, just the fact that christianity was formed during the roman empire and Vlad "dracula" was a midevil lord in a country that doesnt exist anymore (wich geograpichly was in a small part of romania) the time line is inconsistent, but i guess this thread is beyond the topic now and spans over something wich i havent followed so i guess my thought on the whole thing isnt of importance,
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#363 blackregiment
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Im sorry but i find this thread utterly stupid and the claims of TC false in many ways, just the fact that christianity was formed during the roman empire and Vlad "dracula" was a midevil lord in a country that doesnt exist anymore (wich geograpichly was in a small part of romania) the time line is inconsistent, but i guess this thread is beyond the topic now and spans over something wich i havent followed so i guess my thought on the whole thing isnt of importance, zpirit

Your opinion is important and you make some excellent points.

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#364 zpirit
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[QUOTE="zpirit"]Im sorry but i find this thread utterly stupid and the claims of TC false in many ways, just the fact that christianity was formed during the roman empire and Vlad "dracula" was a midevil lord in a country that doesnt exist anymore (wich geograpichly was in a small part of romania) the time line is inconsistent, but i guess this thread is beyond the topic now and spans over something wich i havent followed so i guess my thought on the whole thing isnt of importance, blackregiment

Your opinion is important and you make some excellent points.

Why thank you.

Im not christian myself but if i was, i would be really offended by this ridicoulus (sp?) claim and if there is anybody that believes in this so called doctrine, then i truly feel sorry for that person cause its not anchored in reality at all

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[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="zpirit"]Im sorry but i find this thread utterly stupid and the claims of TC false in many ways, just the fact that christianity was formed during the roman empire and Vlad "dracula" was a midevil lord in a country that doesnt exist anymore (wich geograpichly was in a small part of romania) the time line is inconsistent, but i guess this thread is beyond the topic now and spans over something wich i havent followed so i guess my thought on the whole thing isnt of importance, zpirit

Your opinion is important and you make some excellent points.

Why thank you.

Im not christian myself but if i was, i would be really offended by this ridicoulus (sp?) claim and if there is anybody that believes in this so called doctrine, then i truly feel sorry for that person cause its not anchored in reality at all

I agree and I found it offensive as well. In my opinion, the whole purpose of the thread was to offend Christians, regardless of what the TC claims.

Have a nice day.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

I have never said that Catholics are not Christians. I have stated that Catholicism is not the same as Biblical Christianity, and the Catholic Chjurch agrees. I have also offered to debate you on that subject at a time and place of your choosing if you feel differently.

blackregiment

*sigh* I have no interest in your Biblical Christians negatively or positively...but I won't ignore an obvious attack on my faith. Did I say it was you that didn't know what a Christian was? Nope.....I did not. You got involved in a fight that wasn't yours for whatever reason and then attempt to shift the blame to me. Anyone who read through this thread knows who created the problem. Hint...it wasn't me.;)

That's funny, I have not "attacked" your faith, and neither did Crush. You sure do like those dramatic words. I have not even discussed Catholicism on this thread in any depth at all. The offer is still open if you want to do that at a time and place of your choosing.

All I can say is this. In the future, don't take shots at Biblical Christianity and we will probably have nothing to discuss. I could care less what you believe or how you live your life but when you label Biblical Christians as "self-righteous" for trying to live righteously according to God's Word, then expect to be challenged with the Word of God because Christians are called to try and live righteous lives according to His Word. I challenge you to show me Scripture that states otherwise. .

More selective reading. I guess you missed where he said Catholics weren't real Christians and were condemned because we didn't believe in the Bible just works.

I called out the incorrect statements made by some members of that church. I did not at ANY time say anything about the entire group. Now stop saying that since you have no proof...just dramatic comments of your own. I labeled no group per se self righteous...just certain members. Highly different interpretation.

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[QUOTE="zpirit"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

Your opinion is important and you make some excellent points.

blackregiment

Why thank you.

Im not christian myself but if i was, i would be really offended by this ridicoulus (sp?) claim and if there is anybody that believes in this so called doctrine, then i truly feel sorry for that person cause its not anchored in reality at all

I agree and I found it offensive as well. In my opinion, the whole purpose of the thread was to offend Christians, regardless of what the TC claims.

Have a nice day.

As I said in this thread ages ago:

Lighten up.

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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

For the nth time, I told you the source of my sceen name and gave you a link. I have told you that I do not hold the offensive beliefs you have implied that I do. I would suggest that you take ElRaptor's advice and back off of the false picture you are trying to intentionally paint. blackregiment

no, this is actually the first time you denied. it's funny you would use Chuck Baldwin for a source, then deny some of those claims though. i was not wrong in asserting them, and was not trying to paint a false picture. i'm just going by what i've read today that Chuck Baldwin has written. again, sorry for the offense, honest mistake given your source, and your avatar name. but i must be mistaken. have a good day, won't bother you anymore.

people, just do yourselves a favor and research Chuck Baldwin - just so you know I wasn't wrong in my assertations. Chuck is pretty open about his beliefs.

and again, black regiment, i apologize. you must be able to see how i would make the mistake given Chuck's history. no offense intended, if anything i wanted to be sure you didn't believe everything Chuck does - if that is any comfort.

i have the utmost of respect for all religion - but that respect ends when someones faith impedes upon the rights and freedoms of another human being. that is why i wanted to know if you align yourself with modern day 'black regiment revivalists' like Chuck Baldwin.

What part of the statement, "I respect the right of anyone to hold any belief they choose but I do not consider all beliefs as equally valid and will defend my beliefs with the Word of God", don't you understand?

i understand perfectly, and you even give yourself room in that breath to be discriminatory. it also speaks nothing of things outside of faith, like some of the ideas your friend Chuck believes. you can keep doing this 'high and mighty' stuff all night, it means nothing to me. i'm comfortable with how this thread progressed and what we discovered in the process. it's been an eye-opening experience, that's for sure. and likely not in they way you'd hope.
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[QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]*sigh* I have no interest in your Biblical Christians negatively or positively...but I won't ignore an obvious attack on my faith. Did I say it was you that didn't know what a Christian was? Nope.....I did not. You got involved in a fight that wasn't yours for whatever reason and then attempt to shift the blame to me. Anyone who read through this thread knows who created the problem. Hint...it wasn't me.;)LJS9502_basic

That's funny, I have not "attacked" your faith, and neither did Crush. You sure do like those dramatic words. I have not even discussed Catholicism on this thread in any depth at all. The offer is still open if you want to do that at a time and place of your choosing.

All I can say is this. In the future, don't take shots at Biblical Christianity and we will probably have nothing to discuss. I could care less what you believe or how you live your life but when you label Biblical Christians as "self-righteous" for trying to live righteously according to God's Word, then expect to be challenged with the Word of God because Christians are called to try and live righteous lives according to His Word. I challenge you to show me Scripture that states otherwise. .

More selective reading. I guess you missed where he said Catholics weren't real Christians and were condemned because we didn't believe in the Bible just works.

I called out the incorrect statements made by some members of that church. I did not at ANY time say anything about the entire group. Now stop saying that since you have no proof...just dramatic comments of your own. I labeled no group per se self righteous...just certain members. Highly different interpretation.

what do you expect coming from a person that does 'not consider all beliefs as equally valid'. you shouldn't even bother arguing with someone who discredits you off the bat. if he hasn't the frame of mind to consider Catholicism 'valid' than what is to gain from arguing with him. should have stopped when he said that, but i'm glad the thread went on. I learned a great deal about some of our users and some recent religious movements in the USA.
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what do you expect coming from a person that does 'not consider all beliefs as equally valid'. you shouldn't even bother arguing with someone who discredits you off the bat. if he hasn't the frame of mind to consider Catholicism 'valid' than what is to gain from arguing with him. should have stopped when he said that, but i'm glad the thread went on. I learned a great deal about some of our users and some recent religious movements in the USA. 3picuri3
I respond to expose the truth behind those that debate me. I'm not trying to sway anyone...just illuminate things for those who read.;)
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BR, what you fail to realize is that you are so quick to condemn and shrug off anyone's argument or belief that is different from yours that instead of recognizing someone's interperation or suggestion you instead twist it into something offensive or blasphemous to your particular beliefs. Completely ignoring a poster's argument or point and making up some biased comment explaining why everyone else is false and you are the only one who speaks the truth does nothing but make you look like a blind follower; you say that you aren't here to be looked upon as a liked person, and that's fine, but when you basically force your beliefs against people it does the opposite of what you intend..whatever your intents in posting may be. I hope this doesn't rub you the wrong way, but honestly, this is why I can't stand religious debates in general.

Judge not, if you're not ready for judgement.

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Whatever might have been said for this thread at the beginning, discussion has since wandered way off the original topic. All the personal potshots are starting to turn into trolling, as well. Please refer to this recently-posted sticky for guidance on religious discussions. Thanks.