Jesus was Dracula!

So many pages...

You don't really believe he was a vampie, do you?

vlin1108

[QUOTE="Mister_Mushroom"]BlackRegiment, My goal is not to offend Christians. I would only like you to answer my simple question: Were the Bible not the Word of God, would it still be a good book? Would it still provide valuable stories, moral insights, and teachings? If you cannot answer this question for me, I'm afraid that what you're doing is simply lecturing me on your own beliefs, rather than attempting to engage me. It takes two to tango, so to speak, a conversation is a two way street, and I feel like you're not listening to me.blackregiment

I answered your question earlier. If my answer is not sufficient for you then that is too bad. I explained in detail why I believe that the Bible is the Word of God and why His truths are unseparable from Him. Jesus Christ is the living Word and therefore your question as stated is irrational because Jesus's Word cannot be both Him and not him in the same time and sense. Jesus is the Word and his Word and truth is inseparable from Him. That being the case, you questionis a violation of the law of non-contradiction and therefore irrational based on God's revelation.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

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If you find God's revealed Word "condescending", then take it up with Him. It is His Word, not mine. I will not compromise His perfect revealed Word to meet your worldly standards. As I mentioned, if you have a problem with what God has revealed, then take it up with Him, we will all get our chance to do that someday whether you choose to believe that or not. God gave us a free will to choose to do just that.

blackregiment

*FACEPALM* .... I never said that God's words were condescending, I said that your constant and erroneous assertion that those that disagree with you must lack understanding is condescending... or are you saying that God tells you to type those words? In that case, yes, they would be his Word.

As for taking up God's "revelations" with him... well, I would but I find that in general, fictional characters tend to be less than forthcoming. Regardless, as I said, you should take a little ownership here over your own beliefs... after all, God isn't responding to me, YOU are. Do you NOT in fact think that non-believers are hell-bound? Take special note, I didn't imply nor do I believe that you DECIDE such things, I merely am asking what YOU believe.

But what if you have the wrong book? What if the Bible you have before you *isn't* the exact or correct word of God? You cannot use the bible to verify itself - you're saying "the Bible is the word of God because it is written in the Bible that the Bible is the Word of God". How can you verify that what the Bible is saying about itself is true?Mister_Mushroom

When one is a born again Christian, which I am, they are indwelt by the Holy Spirit that guides them to the truth in God'Word. If one is not a born again Christian without the Holy Spirit, they do not have this helper.

[QUOTE="Mister_Mushroom"]But what if you have the wrong book? What if the Bible you have before you *isn't* the exact or correct word of God? You cannot use the bible to verify itself - you're saying "the Bible is the word of God because it is written in the Bible that the Bible is the Word of God". How can you verify that what the Bible is saying about itself is true?blackregiment

When one is a born again Christian, which I am, they are indwelt by the Holy Spirit that guides them to the truth in God'Word. If one is not a born again Christian without the Holy Spirit, they do not have this helper.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="Mister_Mushroom"]But what if you have the wrong book? What if the Bible you have before you *isn't* the exact or correct word of God? You cannot use the bible to verify itself - you're saying "the Bible is the word of God because it is written in the Bible that the Bible is the Word of God". How can you verify that what the Bible is saying about itself is true?Mister_Mushroom

When one is a born again Christian, which I am, they are indwelt by the Holy Spirit that guides them to the truth in God'Word. If one is not a born again Christian without the Holy Spirit, they do not have this helper.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="Mister_Mushroom"]But what if you have the wrong book? What if the Bible you have before you *isn't* the exact or correct word of God? You cannot use the bible to verify itself - you're saying "the Bible is the word of God because it is written in the Bible that the Bible is the Word of God". How can you verify that what the Bible is saying about itself is true?Mister_Mushroom

When one is a born again Christian, which I am, they are indwelt by the Holy Spirit that guides them to the truth in God'Word. If one is not a born again Christian without the Holy Spirit, they do not have this helper.

No, we do not "hear voices" as you claim you did when you had your discussions with the vampires. The Holy Spirit convicts us in our hearts and leads us to the truth.

[QUOTE="Mister_Mushroom"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

When one is a born again Christian, which I am, they are indwelt by the Holy Spirit that guides them to the truth in God'Word. If one is not a born again Christian without the Holy Spirit, they do not have this helper.

blackregiment

No, we do not "hear voices" as you claim you did when you had your discussions with the vampires. The Holy Spirit convicts us in our hearts and leads us to the truth.

No, we do not "hear voices" as you claim you did when you had your discussions with the vampires. The Holy Spirit convicts us in our hearts and leads us to the truth. blackregiment

Everyone has that, it's called "intuition" or a "gut feeling". How do you know yours comes from God?

[QUOTE="Mister_Mushroom"]But what if you have the wrong book? What if the Bible you have before you *isn't* the exact or correct word of God? You cannot use the bible to verify itself - you're saying "the Bible is the word of God because it is written in the Bible that the Bible is the Word of God". How can you verify that what the Bible is saying about itself is true?blackregiment

When one is a born again Christian, which I am, they are indwelt by the Holy Spirit that guides them to the truth in God'Word. If one is not a born again Christian without the Holy Spirit, they do not have this helper.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="Mister_Mushroom"]But what if you have the wrong book? What if the Bible you have before you *isn't* the exact or correct word of God? You cannot use the bible to verify itself - you're saying "the Bible is the word of God because it is written in the Bible that the Bible is the Word of God". How can you verify that what the Bible is saying about itself is true?LJS9502_basic

When one is a born again Christian, which I am, they are indwelt by the Holy Spirit that guides them to the truth in God'Word. If one is not a born again Christian without the Holy Spirit, they do not have this helper.

Because I have a peronal relationship with Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit guides us to the truth through the Word of God. Biblical Chrisitans receive their guidance through God's Word, not the man made traditions of any Church institution.

Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.
Joh 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you.
Joh 16:15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.
Joh 16:16 A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.

Act 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.

1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

When one is a born again Christian, which I am, they are indwelt by the Holy Spirit that guides them to the truth in God'Word. If one is not a born again Christian without the Holy Spirit, they do not have this helper.

blackregiment

Because I have a peronal relationship with Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit guides us to the truth through the Word of God. Biblical Chrisitans receive their guidance through God's Word, not the man made traditions of any Church institution.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="Mister_Mushroom"] So do you hear a voice telling you which books to read? How does it work?dsmccracken

No, we do not "hear voices" as you claim you did when you had your discussions with the vampires. The Holy Spirit convicts us in our hearts and leads us to the truth.

You are entitled to your opinion. This might be the reason you are having diffculty understanding spiritual things of God. Only you can take the necessary steps to remove this stumbling block through Christ.

1Co 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
1Co 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
1Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1Co 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.


Joh 8:47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Joh 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

Because I have a peronal relationship with Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit guides us to the truth through the Word of God. Biblical Chrisitans receive their guidance through God's Word, not the man made traditions of any Church institution.

Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Joh 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.
Joh 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you.
Joh 16:15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.
Joh 16:16 A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.

Act 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.

1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

blackregiment

In that flurry of Bible quotes, you seem to have forgotten one.

1 Peter 4:8-9: And Jesus said unto us, "I am a vampire. Fear me."

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]How do you know? It's merely one interpretation and does not supersede the other denominations.LJS9502_basic

Because I have a peronal relationship with Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit guides us to the truth through the Word of God. Biblical Chrisitans receive their guidance through God's Word, not the man made traditions of any Church institution.

Oh and is that your condemnation? I am sorry that you do not understand what being born again and indwelt with the Holy Spirit is all about. All I can suggest is that you pray on it and ask God to lead you to His revealed truth.

Oh and is that your condemnation? I am sorry that you do not understand what being born again and indwelt with the Holy Spirit is all about. All I can suggest is that you pray on it and ask God to lead you to His revealed truth.

blackregiment

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

Because I have a peronal relationship with Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit guides us to the truth through the Word of God. Biblical Chrisitans receive their guidance through God's Word, not the man made traditions of any Church institution.

Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Joh 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.
Joh 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you.
Joh 16:15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.
Joh 16:16 A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.

Act 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.

1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

RadBooley

In that flurry of Bible quotes, you seem to have forgotten one.

1 Peter 4:8-9: And Jesus said unto us, "I am a vampire. Fear me."

God's Word actually says in 1 Peter 4:8-9 this...

1Pe 4:8 And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.
1Pe 4:9 Use hospitality one to another without grudging.

God also said in His Word.

Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

He also said...

You might want to consider that before going around changing God's Wod. A word to the wise.

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

That is not what he told the mods on the ask the mods thread to get the topic unlocked. He told them that this is his religion and that he attends a Church that teaches this doctrine.

blackregiment

First of all, he is not claiming it is satire. You can claim all you want but you don't make claims for him. His word do.

Second, read my initial post. I stated that he can believe in Dracula all he wants but for him to claim that Jesus was Dracula is an insult to Christians and I am challenging him on that.

No one is telling him that he can't believe whatever he wants so don't say that I am.

Well, you believing in Christianity is an insult to Jimianity and the lord, Hendrix and I am challenging you on that.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

Oh and is that your condemnation? I am sorry that you do not understand what being born again and indwelt with the Holy Spirit is all about. All I can suggest is that you pray on it and ask God to lead you to His revealed truth.

LJS9502_basic

You keep on believing that. A discussion of Roman Catholicism and many of its man made traditions is beyond the scope of this thread.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"] Well it's satire to me, as it's not my religion. Besides, if TC wants to believe that Dracula is his lord and savior, who are you, among all people, to deny him those beliefs?links136

First of all, he is not claiming it is satire. You can claim all you want but you don't make claims for him. His word do.

Second, read my initial post. I stated that he can believe in Dracula all he wants but for him to claim that Jesus was Dracula is an insult to Christians and I am challenging him on that.

No one is telling him that he can't believe whatever he wants so don't say that I am.

Well, you believing in Christianity is an insult to Jimianity and the lord, Hendrix and I am challenging you on that.

[QUOTE="RadBooley"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

Because I have a peronal relationship with Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit guides us to the truth through the Word of God. Biblical Chrisitans receive their guidance through God's Word, not the man made traditions of any Church institution.

Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Joh 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.
Joh 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you.
Joh 16:15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.
Joh 16:16 A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.

Act 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.

1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

blackregiment

In that flurry of Bible quotes, you seem to have forgotten one.

1 Peter 4:8-9: And Jesus said unto us, "I am a vampire. Fear me."

God's Word actually says in 1 Peter 4:8-9 this...

1Pe 4:8 And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.
1Pe 4:9 Use hospitality one to another without grudging.

God also said in His Word.

Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

He also said...

You might want to consider that before going around changing God's Wod. A word to the wise.

Hey, since the Bible was written by a bunch of guys, I consider my alteration just some peer-editing.

Nothing wrong with that, especially snce they seemed to have missed that entire Vampire bit in the initial rough draft of the Bible.

You keep on believing that. A discussion of Roman Catholicism and many of its man made traditions is beyond the scope of this thread.

blackregiment

[QUOTE="links136"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

First of all, he is not claiming it is satire. You can claim all you want but you don't make claims for him. His word do.

Second, read my initial post. I stated that he can believe in Dracula all he wants but for him to claim that Jesus was Dracula is an insult to Christians and I am challenging him on that.

No one is telling him that he can't believe whatever he wants so don't say that I am.

LJS9502_basic

Well, you believing in Christianity is an insult to Jimianity and the lord, Hendrix and I am challenging you on that.

and chrstians saying that jesus is our savour rather than hendrix offends me as a jimiarian.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

You keep on believing that. A discussion of Roman Catholicism and many of its man made traditions is beyond the scope of this thread.

LJS9502_basic

Don't worry I will. I put my trust in the Word of God, not in the works based traditions of man.

Psa 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
Psa 118:9 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

You keep on believing that. A discussion of Roman Catholicism and many of its man made traditions is beyond the scope of this thread.

blackregiment

Don't worry I will. I put my trust in the Word of God, not in the works based traditions of man.

Psa 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
Psa 118:9 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes.

*Psst* The Bible was written by man, and heavily influenced by man's traditions of the time.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

You keep on believing that. A discussion of Roman Catholicism and many of its man made traditions is beyond the scope of this thread.

blackregiment

Don't worry I will. I put my trust in the Word of God, not in the works based traditions of man.

Psa 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
Psa 118:9 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Just as you keep on believing you have all the answers even with a rudimentary...albeit incorrect understanding of Catholicism.:)LJS9502_basic

Don't worry I will. I put my trust in the Word of God, not in the works based traditions of man.

Psa 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
Psa 118:9 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes.

Thanks for your advice. Believe me, I have done years of study on the topic so I am quite familar with the subject. Visit our site. We have a good bit of information there.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

Don't worry I will. I put my trust in the Word of God, not in the works based traditions of man.

Psa 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
Psa 118:9 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes.

blackregiment

Thanks for your advice. Believe me, I have done years of study on the topic so I am quite familar with the subject. Visit our site. We have a good bit of information there.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]:lol: You might want to learn about other sects...and not from biased sources. LJS9502_basic

Thanks for your advice. Believe me, I have done years of study on the topic so I am quite familar with the subject. Visit our site. We have a good bit of information there.

Excuse me. I have not even discussed the Cathoilc faith in this thread other than to note the TC made some offensive allegations against them.

1Th 4:6 That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified.

If you would like to debate unbiblical man made traditions and doctrines, pick a time and place other than here. It is a favorite subject of mine.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]:lol: You might want to learn about other sects...and not from biased sources. LJS9502_basic

Thanks for your advice. Believe me, I have done years of study on the topic so I am quite familar with the subject. Visit our site. We have a good bit of information there.

Excuse me. I have not even discussed the Cathoilc faith in this thread other than to note the TC made some offensive allegations against them.

1Th 4:6 That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified.

If you would like to debate unbiblical man made traditions and doctrines, pick a time and place other than here. It is a favorite subject of mine.

blackregiment

and here i was believing being a christian was about being a good person.... seems im all wrong here, cause it seems like (regarding all that posted in this thread) its all about proving that your interpretation of christ and how to follow him, is the right one -.-biBLioTek

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

Excuse me. I have not even discussed the Cathoilc faith in this thread other than to note the TC made some offensive allegations against them.

1Th 4:6 That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified.

If you would like to debate unbiblical man made traditions and doctrines, pick a time and place other than here. It is a favorite subject of mine.

LJS9502_basic

Come on just admit it, you just have never liked Biblical Christians. I can understand why. If one studies Church history, they will find that the RCC did everything in its power to stamp out Biblical Christianity for centuries. Anyone that dared to own, read, believe, or distribute the Word of God was persecuted harshly. Read about Tyndale or the Waldensians.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

Excuse me. I have not even discussed the Cathoilc faith in this thread other than to note the TC made some offensive allegations against them.

1Th 4:6 That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified.

If you would like to debate unbiblical man made traditions and doctrines, pick a time and place other than here. It is a favorite subject of mine.

LJS9502_basic

Think what you would like but you have no idea about my knowledge or the research I have done. If you are so sure that I don't understand what I am speaking about, let's pencil in a time and a place for that debate.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

Thanks for your advice. Believe me, I have done years of study on the topic so I am quite familar with the subject. Visit our site. We have a good bit of information there.

biBLioTek

The way to follow Christ is Gód's way. He revealed it in His Word.

Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Joh 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

1Th 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

You keep on believing that. A discussion of Roman Catholicism and many of its man made traditions is beyond the scope of this thread.

blackregiment

Don't worry I will. I put my trust in the Word of God, not in the works based traditions of man.

Psa 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
Psa 118:9 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

Oh and is that your condemnation? I am sorry that you do not understand what being born again and indwelt with the Holy Spirit is all about. All I can suggest is that you pray on it and ask God to lead you to His revealed truth.

blackregiment

You keep on believing that. A discussion of Roman Catholicism and many of its man made traditions is beyond the scope of this thread.

Is the fact that Jesus of Nazareth was actually Dracula going to change your faith? Mister_Mushroom

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Oh I understand the concepts.....it's not I that doesn't. However, I have seen Christianity misapplied in OT coupled with self importance that their sect has all the answers. Each sect has the same Book to work with. I for my part follow the actual church that Jesus founded. We can trace the leaders back to Him.;)3picuri3

You keep on believing that. A discussion of Roman Catholicism and many of its man made traditions is beyond the scope of this thread.

You keep on believing that. A discussion of Roman Catholicism and many of its man made traditions is beyond the scope of this thread.blackregiment

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

You keep on believing that. A discussion of Roman Catholicism and many of its man made traditions is beyond the scope of this thread.

Elraptor

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Oh I understand the concepts.....it's not I that doesn't. However, I have seen Christianity misapplied in OT coupled with self importance that their sect has all the answers. Each sect has the same Book to work with. I for my part follow the actual church that Jesus founded. We can trace the leaders back to Him.;)3picuri3

You keep on believing that. A discussion of Roman Catholicism and many of its man made traditions is beyond the scope of this thread.

No, that is not the topic of this thread. I also do not want to get into that discussion on this thread. I am trying to avoid that.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Just as you keep on believing you have all the answers even with a rudimentary...albeit incorrect understanding of Catholicism.:)3picuri3

Don't worry I will. I put my trust in the Word of God, not in the works based traditions of man.

Psa 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
Psa 118:9 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes.

I did not say that. I put my faith and trust in God's revealed Word. That is what Biblical Christianity is all about.

2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

1Co 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]You keep on believing that. A discussion of Roman Catholicism and many of its man made traditions is beyond the scope of this thread.Mister_Mushroom

I know what God has revealed in His Word. That is what I try to live by. A Biblical Christian bases their beliefs on God's revealed Word and not on Church traditions, unless they are clearly supported by Scripture from the whole counsel of the Word of God. . We test everything against the Word of God as guided by the Holy Spirit.

[I did not say that. I put my faith and trust in God's revealed Word. That is what Biblical Christianity is all about.

.blackregiment

[QUOTE="Mister_Mushroom"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]You keep on believing that. A discussion of Roman Catholicism and many of its man made traditions is beyond the scope of this thread.blackregiment

I know what God has revealed in His Word. That is what I try to live by. A Biblical Christian bases their beliefs on God's revealed Word and not on Church traditions, unless they are clearly supported by Scripture from the whole counsel of the Word of God. . We test everything against the Word of God as guided by the Holy Spirit.

Is there any room for free, independent thought in any of that?

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[I did not say that. I put my faith and trust in God's revealed Word. That is what Biblical Christianity is all about.

.LJS9502_basic

Are you now claiming onmiscience? Do you know what I do in service of the Lord? Do you know what ministries I am involved in? By the way, what color shirt am I wearing and what the outside temperature is where I am? One of the evidences of true salvation, not a condition for it, is that saved and serving Christians do good works in the service of the Lord. Another is that they are not conformed to the world and the many ungodly things it offers such as ungodly music. They try to live holy and righteous lives in obedience to God's Word, as opposed to some that identify themselves as Christians and live their lives from Sunday to Sunday, not much different than non-believers. If one does not do good works in service to the Lord, it is an indication that they are not saved and serving Christ.

[QUOTE="Mister_Mushroom"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]You keep on believing that. A discussion of Roman Catholicism and many of its man made traditions is beyond the scope of this thread.blackregiment

I know what God has revealed in His Word. That is what I try to live by. A Biblical Christian bases their beliefs on God's revealed Word and not on Church traditions, unless they are clearly supported by Scripture from the whole counsel of the Word of God. . We test everything against the Word of God as guided by the Holy Spirit.

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[QUOTE="Mister_Mushroom"] Do you really believe that you *personally* know more about God and Christianity than the entirety of the Roman Catholic Church since the time of Christ :| ?RadBooley

I know what God has revealed in His Word. That is what I try to live by. A Biblical Christian bases their beliefs on God's revealed Word and not on Church traditions, unless they are clearly supported by Scripture from the whole counsel of the Word of God. . We test everything against the Word of God as guided by the Holy Spirit.

Is there any room for free, independent thought in any of that?

Of course there is and great joy as well. Biblical Christianity helps keep one from many errors found in the world as well as keeps one in God's blessings.