Koran burning cancelled

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#1 ToppledPillars
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11255366

The pastor of a small US church who planned to burn copies of the Koran on the anniversary of 9/11 has cancelled his protest.

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#2 spacedog1973
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"Terry Jones said he was calling off the event after the group behind a planned Islamic centre near Ground Zero in New York agreed to relocate it.

But the cultural centre's organisers said they had no plans to move it."

LOL :lol:

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#3 Hexagon_777
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There is already a suitable thread for this. >.>

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#4 coolbeans90
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There is already a suitable thread for this. >.>

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His was posted first...

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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]There is already a suitable thread for this. >.>coolbeans90
His was posted first...

I do not like the tone that ellipsis conveys.

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#6 rragnaar
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

There is already a suitable thread for this. >.>

coolbeans90

His was posted first...

Yup.:) I'm really happy about this bit of news. Nothing good would have come from it.
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#7 awesomejdude
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Glad to see this was called off. It would have only caused trouble.
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#8 ToppledPillars
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Glad to see this was called off. It would have only caused trouble.awesomejdude
Very true
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#9 Ninja-Hippo
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Great news, but also very strange. He seems under the belief that the mosque is being moved, but they say they have no idea what he's talking about.
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#10 Oscar-Wilde
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That's some good news, I believe religions shouldn't be immune to criticism but that doesn't mean that we should be disrespectful and spiteful.

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#11 Super_Toad_64
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What a disgusting person.

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#12 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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Meh..i bet it'll still be used for propaganda..

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I was wondering when he'd cave. Worthless bastard.
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Great news, but also very strange. He seems under the belief that the mosque is being moved, but they say they have no idea what he's talking about. Ninja-Hippo

I think he's referring to the landowner offering to sell the property for 18 - 20 mil.

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#15 T_REX305
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For a second I thought the title was Korean burning cancelled. I was like When was Korea being burned???? :shock:

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What a disgusting person.

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I wouldn't say that. He's more a man that is blinded by his own conviction. His kind of narrow minded thinking is dangerous though. I mean it's simply ridiculous to hate someone because they don't agree with you. Thus is the problem of all religion I suppose...
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Well my english teacher wasted a trip to Gainseville. He was going to go interview a bunch of people there.
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#18 Jipset
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[QUOTE="Super_Toad_64"]

What a disgusting person.

22Toothpicks
I wouldn't say that. He's more a man that is blinded by his own conviction. His kind of narrow minded thinking is dangerous though. I mean it's simply ridiculous to hate someone because they don't agree with you. Thus is the problem of all religion I suppose...

I agree.
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Good news, hopefully now the folks who got their panties in a bunch will cool off. :P
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#21 Super_Toad_64
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[QUOTE="Super_Toad_64"]

What a disgusting person.

22Toothpicks

I wouldn't say that. He's more a man that is blinded by his own conviction. His kind of narrow minded thinking is dangerous though. I mean it's simply ridiculous to hate someone because they don't agree with you. Thus is the problem of all religion I suppose...

Its rather the fact that these people simply rage because of all the B.S there shown by the news, i mean they turned this from the war on hidden WMD's to the war on Al'qaeda to the war on Muslim extremists to the war on sharia law to the war on ground zero mosque which shows how theve conjured up this image to the american people that islam is bad and its coming to attack you which clearly theve fallen for.

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ugh what a wimp. If I had the money to buy some qurans i'd finish the job. Silenthps
And what would that prove? That you harbor hate for someone based on a disagreement in beliefs? How very Christian of you. Edit: Aren't Christians supposed to help people repent and change they're sinful ways? I never see that. People just chastise one another for beleiving in the "wrong religion."
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ugh what a wimp. If I had the money to buy some qurans i'd finish the job. Silenthps
Wow... :|
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[QUOTE="Silenthps"]ugh what a wimp. If I had the money to buy some qurans i'd finish the job. 22Toothpicks
And what would that prove? That you harbor hate for someone based on a disagreement in beliefs? How very Christian of you.

Nevermind...but i doubt he'd be doing it because of their disagreement in regards to beliefs..

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[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"][QUOTE="Silenthps"]ugh what a wimp. If I had the money to buy some qurans i'd finish the job. Xx_Hopeless_xX
And what would that prove? That you harbor hate for someone based on a disagreement in beliefs? How very Christian of you.

Who ever said he was Christian..? I love these types of BS assumptions..if he was Christian he would NOT be burning the Quran..

Uhhh because he has a "Bible Believers" tag in his sig. And a quote from the Bible. Durr. Edit: Lol Saw you're edit I guess you just didn't notice his sig. :P
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I kinda thought he wouldn't, he was just enjoying his 15 mins of frame that the media gave him.

[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"][QUOTE="Silenthps"]ugh what a wimp. If I had the money to buy some qurans i'd finish the job. Xx_Hopeless_xX

And what would that prove? That you harbor hate for someone based on a disagreement in beliefs? How very Christian of you.

Nevermind...but i doubt he'd be doing it because of their disagreement in regards to beliefs..

Do you have signatures on? His sig makes it clear he is one.

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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="22Toothpicks"] And what would that prove? That you harbor hate for someone based on a disagreement in beliefs? How very Christian of you.22Toothpicks
Who ever said he was Christian..? I love these types of BS assumptions..if he was Christian he would NOT be burning the Quran..

Uhhh because he has a "Bible Believers" tag in his sig. And a quote from the Bible. Durr.

Made me Lol

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i knew he wouldn't do that

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[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"][QUOTE="Silenthps"]ugh what a wimp. If I had the money to buy some qurans i'd finish the job. Xx_Hopeless_xX

And what would that prove? That you harbor hate for someone based on a disagreement in beliefs? How very Christian of you.

Nevermind...but i doubt he'd be doing it because of their disagreement in regards to beliefs..

So why do you think he'd be doing it?

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#30 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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I kinda thought he wouldn't, he was just enjoying his 15 mins of frame that the media gave him.

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"] And what would that prove? That you harbor hate for someone based on a disagreement in beliefs? How very Christian of you.Chaos_HL21

Nevermind...but i doubt he'd be doing it because of their disagreement in regards to beliefs..

Do you have signatures on? His sig makes it clear he is one.

So he's Christian...that doesn't automatically mean he is doing it just because they disagree with his beliefs..
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#31 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"] And what would that prove? That you harbor hate for someone based on a disagreement in beliefs? How very Christian of you.GreySeal9

Nevermind...but i doubt he'd be doing it because of their disagreement in regards to beliefs..

Do why would he be doing then?

Because maybe they have harmed someone he loves?..Or a plethora of other reasons..
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]Nevermind...but i doubt he'd be doing it because of their disagreement in regards to beliefs..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

Do why would he be doing then?

Because maybe they have harmed someone he loves?..Or a plethora of other reasons..

Well, that'd be ridiculous, but I'll concede that one might do it for several reasons. I can't think of any that would be justified though.

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That's one step in the right direction

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#34 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Do why would he be doing then?

GreySeal9

Because maybe they have harmed someone he loves?..Or a plethora of other reasons..

Well, that'd be ridiculous, but I'll concede that one might do it for several reasons. I can't think of any that would be justified though.

Why would it be ridiculous?..Burning a religions holy book...from which stems the religions teachings and system of ideals and beliefs..by burning it he may feel he is burning the very thing that brought about his pain..
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[QUOTE="Silenthps"]ugh what a wimp. If I had the money to buy some qurans i'd finish the job. 22Toothpicks
And what would that prove? That you harbor hate for someone based on a disagreement in beliefs? How very Christian of you. Edit: Aren't Christians supposed to help people repent and change they're sinful ways? I never see that. People just chastise one another for beleiving in the "wrong religion."

uh, since when does burning a book = hating a person?
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]Nevermind...but i doubt he'd be doing it because of their disagreement in regards to beliefs..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

Do why would he be doing then?

Because maybe they have harmed someone he loves?..Or a plethora of other reasons..

1) it would still be unChristian of him (with the turn the other cheek thing), and 2) Someone of that religion would of harmed him/someone he loved, not the religion itself

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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

I kinda thought he wouldn't, he was just enjoying his 15 mins of frame that the media gave him.

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]Nevermind...but i doubt he'd be doing it because of their disagreement in regards to beliefs..

Do you have signatures on? His sig makes it clear he is one.

So he's Christian...that doesn't automatically mean he is doing it just because they disagree with his beliefs..

Fine. But I can't think of a single legitimate reason to burn a book that is very important to many poeple other then to antagonize them.
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#38 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Do why would he be doing then?

Chaos_HL21

Because maybe they have harmed someone he loves?..Or a plethora of other reasons..

1) it would still be unChristian of him (with the turn the other cheek thing), and 2) Someone of that religion would of harmed him/someone he loved, not the religion itself

But he may feel..especially in regards to Islam..that they did it because of their beliefs..which would then lead him to believe that the religion caused it..
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[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"][QUOTE="Silenthps"]ugh what a wimp. If I had the money to buy some qurans i'd finish the job. Silenthps
And what would that prove? That you harbor hate for someone based on a disagreement in beliefs? How very Christian of you. Edit: Aren't Christians supposed to help people repent and change they're sinful ways? I never see that. People just chastise one another for beleiving in the "wrong religion."

uh, since when does burning a book = hating a person?

This, its just a protest. What about all the countries that have burned other countries flags. Please don't tell me it doesn't relate, because it does. Anyways, let em all do what they want, no skin off my back. That and maybe he just needed to stay warm at night, books burn hawt.

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ugh what a wimp. If I had the money to buy some qurans i'd finish the job. Silenthps
What would that accomplish? :?
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] Because maybe they have harmed someone he loves?..Or a plethora of other reasons..Xx_Hopeless_xX

Well, that'd be ridiculous, but I'll concede that one might do it for several reasons. I can't think of any that would be justified though.

Why would it be ridiculous?..Burning a religions holy book...from which stems the religions teachings and system of ideals and beliefs..by burning it he may feel he is burning the very thing that brought about his pain..

So if a Christian dude killed my family, you think it wouldn't be ridiculous to starting burning Bibles?

Burning the holy book is basically saying that the religion itself harmed the family member, which is not true.

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[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"][QUOTE="Silenthps"]ugh what a wimp. If I had the money to buy some qurans i'd finish the job. Silenthps
And what would that prove? That you harbor hate for someone based on a disagreement in beliefs? How very Christian of you. Edit: Aren't Christians supposed to help people repent and change they're sinful ways? I never see that. People just chastise one another for beleiving in the "wrong religion."

uh, since when does burning a book = hating a person?

There is a question mark at the end of that sentence for a reason. I have no idea why you would want to go through with this guys original plan but it certainly couldn't be to spread love.
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#43 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

Do you have signatures on? His sig makes it clear he is one.

22Toothpicks

So he's Christian...that doesn't automatically mean he is doing it just because they disagree with his beliefs..

Fine. But I can't think of a single legitimate reason to burn a book that is very important to many poeple other then to antagonize them.

Well i can't think of a legitimate reason for a lot of things..that doesn't mean they don't exist..furthermore, just because you don't see it as legitimate doesn't mean he sees it the same way..

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#44 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Well, that'd be ridiculous, but I'll concede that one might do it for several reasons. I can't think of any that would be justified though.

GreySeal9

Why would it be ridiculous?..Burning a religions holy book...from which stems the religions teachings and system of ideals and beliefs..by burning it he may feel he is burning the very thing that brought about his pain..

So if a Christian dude killed my family, you think it wouldn't be ridiculous to starting burning Bibles?

Burning the holy book is basically saying that the religion itself harmed the family member, which is not true.

That would be ridiculous because he wouldn't claim he was killing your family in the name of his God..now would he?..
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In return the Mosque is being built somewhere else.
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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] Because maybe they have harmed someone he loves?..Or a plethora of other reasons..Xx_Hopeless_xX

1) it would still be unChristian of him (with the turn the other cheek thing), and 2) Someone of that religion would of harmed him/someone he loved, not the religion itself

But he may feel..especially in regards to Islam..that they did it because of their beliefs..which would then lead him to believe that the religion caused it..

Even if they did do it because of their beliefs, the religion itself did not harm his family member, the individual did.

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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] Because maybe they have harmed someone he loves?..Or a plethora of other reasons..Xx_Hopeless_xX

Well, that'd be ridiculous, but I'll concede that one might do it for several reasons. I can't think of any that would be justified though.

Why would it be ridiculous?..Burning a religions holy book...from which stems the religions teachings and system of ideals and beliefs..by burning it he may feel he is burning the very thing that brought about his pain..

Its the association to Islam as the 'thing' thats bringing his pain thats the problem, guilty by association is not how the world needs to be governed.

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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] Why would it be ridiculous?..Burning a religions holy book...from which stems the religions teachings and system of ideals and beliefs..by burning it he may feel he is burning the very thing that brought about his pain..Xx_Hopeless_xX

So if a Christian dude killed my family, you think it wouldn't be ridiculous to starting burning Bibles?

Burning the holy book is basically saying that the religion itself harmed the family member, which is not true.

That would be ridiculous because he wouldn't claim he was killing your family in the name of his God..now would he?..

A nutcase kills someone in the name of God. Who is to blame? The nutcase or the religion?
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#49 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

1) it would still be unChristian of him (with the turn the other cheek thing), and 2) Someone of that religion would of harmed him/someone he loved, not the religion itself

GreySeal9

But he may feel..especially in regards to Islam..that they did it because of their beliefs..which would then lead him to believe that the religion caused it..

Even if they did do it because of their beliefs, the religion itself did not harm his family member, the individual did.

The individual would have done it in the name of his God..if we are going by Islam..as that has been the trend..therefore, one could conclude that it was the religions fault in this scenario..
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] Why would it be ridiculous?..Burning a religions holy book...from which stems the religions teachings and system of ideals and beliefs..by burning it he may feel he is burning the very thing that brought about his pain..Xx_Hopeless_xX

So if a Christian dude killed my family, you think it wouldn't be ridiculous to starting burning Bibles?

Burning the holy book is basically saying that the religion itself harmed the family member, which is not true.

That would be ridiculous because he wouldn't claim he was killing your family in the name of his God..now would he?..

How do know he wouldn't?

This is my scenario, not yours.