Koran burning cancelled

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

You didn't refute it at all. You merely said that people of other religions don't go to hell without back it up with scripture.

GreySeal9

If it never states such things, then on what authority are you stating that other religions don't go to hell.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="ohdearohdear"]Um. Of course he wouldn't condemn his disciples to hell. They're his disciples. They'd be going to heaven. :/ The Bible makes it absolutely clear that only through faith can one be saved: Heb 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him. And here, it is made clear that one cannot be saved by works: Titus 3:5 He saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spiritohdearohdear

"In fact, Christ can lead to the Father also people who never heard about Him, if these people desire to live a holy life.
These people unawarely love Christ, and when they will meet Him in the afterlife, they will know that they have unawarely loved Him.
Also Paul spoke about the possibility to be saved for Gentiles who lived before Christ.
Ro 2:14 For when the Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, though not having the law, are a law to themselves.
2:15 They show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts either accusing or perhaps defending them.)
2:16 On that day God shall judge the secrets of men through Jesus Christ, as my gospel proclaims. Our salvation does not follow from a formal acceptation of Christ; we must accept Him in our heart; some people may have accepted Him in their heart, even if they have not consciously known Him."

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I don't need to back it up with quotes from the Bible because it never states such things. Snipes_2

If it never states such things, then on what authority are you stating that other religions don't go to hell.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I don't need to back it up with quotes from the Bible because it never states such things. Snipes_2

If it never states such things, then on what authority are you stating that other religions don't go to hell.

It says that the only way to heaven is through Jesus Christ.

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] :lol:..so you just disregard all of the claims made and pretend that there are statistics for such a thing..and then attempt to call my link garbage..as if you can't look up thsoe quotes for yourself to prove they are in fact true quotes..

GreySeal9

Simply pasting together some incidents does not prove your point. Why in the world do you think it would? You didn't even read the whole ****ing post apparently...how about you go back and read the quotes and statements i posted made by those who follow Islam in which they state that they kill in the name of Allah....

I'm not saying that there is statistics. What I am saying is that if you're going to make a claim like that, then you'd better have some. How about you just use your critical thinking skills, based on many of the claims..(of which you have apparently not read)..made by those who follow Islam and kill other human beings..supports the claim that it is indeed a trend..

But you don't.

I skimmed over the stuff you posted. Yet you try and provide counter arguments without actually reading the post in which yo uare countering..and within your previous posts you even misconstrued the content of my post..so how about you either don't reply..or read the hwole post before trying to refute it..

You seem to be mad that I'm not taking your post seriously, but you stated that there are trend, and then you supported it with a post that amounts to cheerypicking. Nobody is denying that some people kill in the name of Allah which is all you've proven. Cherry picking?..Osama Bin Laden and countless leaders of organizations that specialize in killing the name name of Allah is Cherry picking :lol: ?...

If you want to establish a trend, you need to go beyond what you've laid out in your post. Really?..Because i think the claims made by heads of known terrorist organizations can be considered as substantial as you'll ever get in regards to this subject..

I mean, if you're going to make a statement, it doesn't look very good to support it in the most lazy of ways. "most lazy of ways"..all you're doing is saying "that's not good enough" with no actual reason for saying such a thing..you fail to realize it is IMPOSSIBLE to get statistics in regards to this topic..recognizing trends goes far beyond just statistics..just because you don't have statistics for something does not mean that it cannot be considered a recognizable trend..do you have statistics for people who dye their hair black and are Goth?...No?..Yet people consider this a black hair thing a "trend" in regards to Goths..some things cannot be identified as tends solely by using statistics..sometimes one must use the skill of observation..when multiple terrorist leaders state that they kill in the name of allah..we can then assume that those who follow these leaders kill in the name of allah as well..as shown by one of the quotes in which a follower of a terrorist organization stated he was killing in the name of Allah..oh..but you didn't read that....so what's the point in trying to explain it..

If you can't adequately support your statement with substantial methods, then maybe you shouldn't make the statement. If you can't adequately read the whole post why should i bother supporting my assertions? Why should i even take you seriously when you can't even take 5 minutes to read a post that was refuting your assertions?..Furthermore, all one needs to do to recognize this trend is pick up a newspaper and read about the countless attacks/attempted attacks made by Islamic followers, and then read why they claim they were going to/did such a thing when possible..I have provided more then enough evidence to support the claim that it is indeed a trend..unless you either do not watch the news..or you hide under a rock...you should recognize this trend as well..as it is fairly apparent..I have substantiated as much as is possible short of actually going to the Middle East and asking every man who decides to blow himself up whether or not he is doing it in the name of Allah then forming a stats chart in regards to the information i obtained..

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
"You will burn in Hell if you do not accept Christ as your Lord and Saviour."

Yes, not hostile at all. Not all Christians are hostile... but neither are all of them not hostile.

GreySeal9

The Christian is being loving, but the religious dogma remains hostile.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="ohdearohdear"]...it's from the Bible. It's John 14:6. It's one of the most iconic quotes in Christian theology. I thought you were a Christian :|ohdearohdear

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] You asserted that all Non Christians go to Hell, I refuted it. Nowhere does it say all Non Christians go to Hell. Unbelievers (Like I stated before) means people who denounce or don't believe in God.Snipes_2

Uhh... yes, exactly. If you don't believe in the Christian God, you go to hell. You just refuted yourself...

Revelation 21:8 "But for the cowardly and UNBELIEVING and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."

Unbelieving... as in do not believe in the Christian God...

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

If it never states such things, then on what authority are you stating that other religions don't go to hell.

Ace6301

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Uhh... yes, exactly. If you don't believe in the Christian God, you go to hell. You just refuted yourself...

chessmaster1989

Revelation 21:8 "But for the cowardly and UNBELIEVING and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."

Unbelieving... as in do not believe in the Christian God...

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="ohdearohdear"]No; that fails to explain why Jesus states that only through him can one reach the Father. lrn2theologyohdearohdear

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Err...No I do believe I said "God" not "The Christian God". Can you tell me how you know for a fact that everyone goes to Hell who is not Christian?Snipes_2

Revelation 21:8 "But for the cowardly and UNBELIEVING and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."

Unbelieving... as in do not believe in the Christian God...

Yes... which includes other religions...

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

Simply pasting together some incidents does not prove your point. Why in the world do you think it would? You didn't even read the whole ****ing post apparently...how about you go back and read the quotes and statements i posted made by those who follow Islam in which they state that they kill in the name of Allah....

I'm not saying that there is statistics. What I am saying is that if you're going to make a claim like that, then you'd better have some. How about you just use your critical thinking skills, based on many of the claims..(of which you have apparently not read)..made by those who follow Islam and kill other human beings..supports the claim that it is indeed a trend..

But you don't.

Xx_Hopeless_xX

I skimmed over the stuff you posted. Yet you try and provide counter arguments without actually reading the post in which yo uare countering..and within your previous posts you even misconstrued the content of my post..so how about you either don't reply..or read the hwole post before trying to refute it..

You seem to be mad that I'm not taking your post seriously, but you stated that there are trend, and then you supported it with a post that amounts to cheerypicking. Nobody is denying that some people kill in the name of Allah which is all you've proven. Cherry picking?..Osama Bin Laden and countless leaders of organizations that specialize in killing the name name of Allah is Cherry picking :lol: ?...

If you want to establish a trend, you need to go beyond what you've laid out in your post. Really?..Because i think the claims made by heads of known terrorist orginizations can be considered as substantial as you'll ever get in regards to this subject..

I mean, if you're going to make a statement, it doesn't look very good to support it in the most lazy of ways. "most lazy of ways"..all you're doing is saying "that's not good enough" with no actual reason for saying such a thing..you fail to realize it is IMPOSSIBLE to get statistics in regards to this topic..recognizing trends goes far beyond just statistics..just because you don't have statistics for something does not mean that it cannot be considered a recognizable trend..do you have statistics for people who dye their hair black and are Goth?...No?..Yet people consider this a "trend" in regards to Goths..some things cannot be identified as tends solely by using statistics..sometimes one must use the skill of observation..when multiple terrorist leaders state that they kill in the name of allah..we can then assume that those who follow these leaders kill in the name of allah as well..as shown by one of the quotes in which a follower of a terrorist organization stated he was killing in the name of Allah..oh..but you didn't read that....so what's the point in trying to explain it..

If you can't adequately support your statement with substantial methods, then maybe you shouldn't make the statement. If you can't adequately read the whole post why should i bother supporting my assertions? Why should i even take you seriously when you can't even take 5 minutes to read a post that was refuting your assertions?..Furthermore, all one needs to do to recognize this trend is pick up a newspaper and read about the countless attacks/attempted attacks made by Islamic followers, and then read why they claim they were going to/did such a thing when possible..I have provided more then enough evidence to support the claim that it is indeed a trend..unless you either do not watch the news..or you hide under a rock...you should recognize this trend as well..as it is fairly apparent..I have substantiated as much as is possible short of actually going to the Middle East and asking every man who decides to blow himself up whether or not he is doing it in the name of Allah then forming a stats chart in regards to the information i obtained..

Do you know what cherrypicking is? Cherrypicking in the process of using a relatively small number of cases and trying to make it into a trend.

A trend is widespread and is arrived at through mathematical proof, not the news.

Your problem is that you want to arrive at certain conclusions is the most simplistic way possible instead of doing some real work to prove them, hence me calling your method lazy.

The fact that you think that some patched together quotes and statements like "go look at the news" is substantial is a joke to anybody who has every done any multi-tiered research.

I'm skimming your posts because your method makes no sense for proving a trend. It is inadequate. I'm not going to sugarcoat that for you and tell you that you've actually made your point.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Err...No I do believe I said "God" not "The Christian God". Can you tell me how you know for a fact that everyone goes to Hell who is not Christian?Snipes_2

Revelation 21:8 "But for the cowardly and UNBELIEVING and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."

Unbelieving... as in do not believe in the Christian God...

Wait a minute STOP. Religion allows peace and faith to those that are not. We are debating if its Hostile or not? What does this prove? (In this case) Christians are nutheads because of what we believe? NO. The only way religion is hostile is when there are extremists who take it way out of context.bbkkristian

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[spoiler] I j/k by the way. You have a good point. [/spoiler]

I'm happy about this. Should it not be better for us Christians to familiarize ourselves with their Koran so that we might be better prepared to share Christ with them? We should burn, metaphorically or literally, our own idols. What point does burning the idols of others prove? All that does is promote a self-righteous and "I'm better than you" mentality. To quote one of my best friend's recent status on facebook, "(name) wonders what is the beneficial part of having a Koran burning. Endangering troops in Muslim countries? Inciting more anti-American sentiments in fragile countries? Showing that a country which was partly built on escaping religious persecution can now persecute others? Or, is it when you hear the words of Jesus you feel like this is what he would want you to do? People are ridiculous." Should the Koran be burned? Yes. However, I'd much rather a former Muslim who has been loved to Christ do the burning (metaphorically speaking).mindstorm

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Uhh... yes, exactly. If you don't believe in the Christian God, you go to hell. You just refuted yourself...

chessmaster1989

Revelation 21:8 "But for the cowardly and UNBELIEVING and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."

Unbelieving... as in do not believe in the Christian God...

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Silenthps"] If a Christian tells you that, they're actually being LOVING towards you not hostile.

Silenthps

The Christian is being loving, but the religious dogma remains hostile.

Condemning non-believers to a place of eternal torture is inherently hostile.

Especially when you consider that God insists on being invisible.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Revelation 21:8 "But for the cowardly and UNBELIEVING and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."

Unbelieving... as in do not believe in the Christian God...

mindstorm

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Revelation 21:8 "But for the cowardly and UNBELIEVING and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."

Unbelieving... as in do not believe in the Christian God...

mindstorm

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]Wait a minute STOP. Religion allows peace and faith to those that are not. We are debating if its Hostile or not? What does this prove? (In this case) Christians are nutheads because of what we believe? NO. The only way religion is hostile is when there are extremists who take it way out of context.THE_DRUGGIE

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Don't worry, I LOLed :lol: :P At least someone read the post! :D (It wouldn't let me post the spoiler)

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Err...No I do believe I said "God" not "The Christian God". Can you tell me how you know for a fact that everyone goes to Hell who is not Christian?bbkkristian

Revelation 21:8 "But for the cowardly and UNBELIEVING and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."

Unbelieving... as in do not believe in the Christian God...

What point does burning the idols of others prove? All that does is promote a self-righteous and "I'm better than you" mentality.

Should the Koran be burned? Yes. mindstorm

This strikes me as a tad contradictory, I must say.

Jewish people oppose the notion of JesusSnipes_2

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Jewish people oppose the notion of Jesusohdearohdear

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Jewish people oppose the notion of Jesusohdearohdear

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

GreySeal9

I skimmed over the stuff you posted. Yet you try and provide counter arguments without actually reading the post in which yo uare countering..and within your previous posts you even misconstrued the content of my post..so how about you either don't reply..or read the hwole post before trying to refute it..

You seem to be mad that I'm not taking your post seriously, but you stated that there are trend, and then you supported it with a post that amounts to cheerypicking. Nobody is denying that some people kill in the name of Allah which is all you've proven. Cherry picking?..Osama Bin Laden and countless leaders of organizations that specialize in killing the name name of Allah is Cherry picking :lol: ?...

If you want to establish a trend, you need to go beyond what you've laid out in your post. Really?..Because i think the claims made by heads of known terrorist orginizations can be considered as substantial as you'll ever get in regards to this subject..

I mean, if you're going to make a statement, it doesn't look very good to support it in the most lazy of ways. "most lazy of ways"..all you're doing is saying "that's not good enough" with no actual reason for saying such a thing..you fail to realize it is IMPOSSIBLE to get statistics in regards to this topic..recognizing trends goes far beyond just statistics..just because you don't have statistics for something does not mean that it cannot be considered a recognizable trend..do you have statistics for people who dye their hair black and are Goth?...No?..Yet people consider this a "trend" in regards to Goths..some things cannot be identified as tends solely by using statistics..sometimes one must use the skill of observation..when multiple terrorist leaders state that they kill in the name of allah..we can then assume that those who follow these leaders kill in the name of allah as well..as shown by one of the quotes in which a follower of a terrorist organization stated he was killing in the name of Allah..oh..but you didn't read that....so what's the point in trying to explain it..

If you can't adequately support your statement with substantial methods, then maybe you shouldn't make the statement. If you can't adequately read the whole post why should i bother supporting my assertions? Why should i even take you seriously when you can't even take 5 minutes to read a post that was refuting your assertions?..Furthermore, all one needs to do to recognize this trend is pick up a newspaper and read about the countless attacks/attempted attacks made by Islamic followers, and then read why they claim they were going to/did such a thing when possible..I have provided more then enough evidence to support the claim that it is indeed a trend..unless you either do not watch the news..or you hide under a rock...you should recognize this trend as well..as it is fairly apparent..I have substantiated as much as is possible short of actually going to the Middle East and asking every man who decides to blow himself up whether or not he is doing it in the name of Allah then forming a stats chart in regards to the information i obtained..

Do you know what cherrypicking is? Cherrypicking in the process of using a relatively small number of cases and trying to make it into a trend.

A trend is widespread and is arrived at through mathematical proof, not the news.

Your problem is that you want to arrive at certain conclusions is the most simplistic way possible instead of doing some real work to prove them, hence me calling your method lazy.

The fact that you think that some patched together quotes and statements like "go look at the news" is substantial is a joke to anybody who has every done any multi-tiered research.

I'm skimming your posts because your method makes no sense for proving a trend. It is inadequate. I'm not going to sugarcoat that for you and tell you that you've actually made your point.

Osama bin Laden and Al'qaeda attacked america because of POLITICAL reasons, unlike you im not going to ask you to just beleive my words rather il let you hear it from the man himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiKyWJRRjnU

And id suggest taking off the anotations as this was the only vid i could find.

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]Wait a minute STOP. Religion allows peace and faith to those that are not. We are debating if its Hostile or not? What does this prove? (In this case) Christians are nutheads because of what we believe? NO. The only way religion is hostile is when there are extremists who take it way out of context.bbkkristian

.

Don't worry, I LOLed :lol: :P At least someone read the post! :D (It wouldn't let me post the spoiler)

Yeah, I was trying to fit your name into there but my image editing skills are sub-par. :(

In any case, I agree with you that the extremists give the truly devout a bad name.

[QUOTE="ohdearohdear"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Jewish people oppose the notion of JesusSnipes_2

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]I'm happy about this. Should it not be better for us Christians to familiarize ourselves with their Koran so that we might be better prepared to share Christ with them? We should burn, metaphorically or literally, our own idols. What point does burning the idols of others prove? All that does is promote a self-righteous and "I'm better than you" mentality. To quote one of my best friend's recent status on facebook, "(name) wonders what is the beneficial part of having a Koran burning. Endangering troops in Muslim countries? Inciting more anti-American sentiments in fragile countries? Showing that a country which was partly built on escaping religious persecution can now persecute others? Or, is it when you hear the words of Jesus you feel like this is what he would want you to do? People are ridiculous." Should the Koran be burned? Yes. However, I'd much rather a former Muslim who has been loved to Christ do the burning (metaphorically speaking).Super_Toad_64

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Revelation 21:8 "But for the cowardly and UNBELIEVING and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."

Unbelieving... as in do not believe in the Christian God...

Theokhoth

Reallyyy????? I swear, I did not know that (Sarcasm alert) 8|

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="ohdearohdear"]wat o_oohdearohdear

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="bbkkristian"] Hey I know this is the NEW testament, but did you know that Judaism believes in the same God as Christians? bbkkristian

Reallyyy????? I swear, I did not know that (Sarcasm alert) 8|

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Unbelieving as in, People who denounce God, I.e., people who claim God doesn't exist. Everyone has the chance to go to Heaven, like I said. "Not believing; doubting."' Not believing in or Doubting God.Snipes_2

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

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THE_DRUGGIE

Don't worry, I LOLed :lol: :P At least someone read the post! :D (It wouldn't let me post the spoiler)

Yeah, I was trying to fit your name into there but my image editing skills are sub-par. :(

In any case, I agree with you that the extremists give the truly devout a bad name.

Wait do you draw those too?

Yeah and those extremists lead to threads like this... :?

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

I skimmed over the stuff you posted. Yet you try and provide counter arguments without actually reading the post in which yo uare countering..and within your previous posts you even misconstrued the content of my post..so how about you either don't reply..or read the hwole post before trying to refute it..

You seem to be mad that I'm not taking your post seriously, but you stated that there are trend, and then you supported it with a post that amounts to cheerypicking. Nobody is denying that some people kill in the name of Allah which is all you've proven. Cherry picking?..Osama Bin Laden and countless leaders of organizations that specialize in killing the name name of Allah is Cherry picking :lol: ?...

If you want to establish a trend, you need to go beyond what you've laid out in your post. Really?..Because i think the claims made by heads of known terrorist orginizations can be considered as substantial as you'll ever get in regards to this subject..

I mean, if you're going to make a statement, it doesn't look very good to support it in the most lazy of ways. "most lazy of ways"..all you're doing is saying "that's not good enough" with no actual reason for saying such a thing..you fail to realize it is IMPOSSIBLE to get statistics in regards to this topic..recognizing trends goes far beyond just statistics..just because you don't have statistics for something does not mean that it cannot be considered a recognizable trend..do you have statistics for people who dye their hair black and are Goth?...No?..Yet people consider this a "trend" in regards to Goths..some things cannot be identified as tends solely by using statistics..sometimes one must use the skill of observation..when multiple terrorist leaders state that they kill in the name of allah..we can then assume that those who follow these leaders kill in the name of allah as well..as shown by one of the quotes in which a follower of a terrorist organization stated he was killing in the name of Allah..oh..but you didn't read that....so what's the point in trying to explain it..

If you can't adequately support your statement with substantial methods, then maybe you shouldn't make the statement. If you can't adequately read the whole post why should i bother supporting my assertions? Why should i even take you seriously when you can't even take 5 minutes to read a post that was refuting your assertions?..Furthermore, all one needs to do to recognize this trend is pick up a newspaper and read about the countless attacks/attempted attacks made by Islamic followers, and then read why they claim they were going to/did such a thing when possible..I have provided more then enough evidence to support the claim that it is indeed a trend..unless you either do not watch the news..or you hide under a rock...you should recognize this trend as well..as it is fairly apparent..I have substantiated as much as is possible short of actually going to the Middle East and asking every man who decides to blow himself up whether or not he is doing it in the name of Allah then forming a stats chart in regards to the information i obtained..

Super_Toad_64

Do you know what cherrypicking is? Cherrypicking in the process of using a relatively small number of cases and trying to make it into a trend.

A trend is widespread and is arrived at through mathematical proof, not the news.

Your problem is that you want to arrive at certain conclusions is the most simplistic way possible instead of doing some real work to prove them, hence me calling your method lazy.

The fact that you think that some patched together quotes and statements like "go look at the news" is substantial is a joke to anybody who has every done any multi-tiered research.

I'm skimming your posts because your method makes no sense for proving a trend. It is inadequate. I'm not going to sugarcoat that for you and tell you that you've actually made your point.

Osama bin Laden and Al'qaeda attacked america because of POLITICAL reasons, unlike you im not going to ask you to just beleive my words rather il let you hear it from the man himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiKyWJRRjnU

And id suggest taking off the anotations as this was the only vid i could find.

You mean, unlike Hopeless right?

I'm not at a place where I can watch the video, but thanks for posting it.

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]What point does burning the idols of others prove? All that does is promote a self-righteous and "I'm better than you" mentality.

Should the Koran be burned? Yes. D_Battery

This strikes me as a tad contradictory, I must say.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"] If you don't know Jesus then you don't know God. mindstorm

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] Yes, but they don't believe in Jesus. Just like Muslims.Theokhoth

Reallyyy????? I swear, I did not know that (Sarcasm alert) 8|

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]

Don't worry, I LOLed :lol: :P At least someone read the post! :D (It wouldn't let me post the spoiler)

bbkkristian

Yeah, I was trying to fit your name into there but my image editing skills are sub-par. :(

In any case, I agree with you that the extremists give the truly devout a bad name.

Wait do you draw those too?

Yeah and those extremists lead to threads like this... :?

Nah, it's by a guy named hiimdaisy. He has some pretty funny stuff. :D

Anywho, I guess these kinds of threads are all part of the fallout of the situation. Sad, really... :(

[QUOTE="Super_Toad_64"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Do you know what cherrypicking is? Cherrypicking in the process of using a relatively small number of cases and trying to make it into a trend.

A trend is widespread and is arrived at through mathematical proof, not the news.

Your problem is that you want to arrive at certain conclusions is the most simplistic way possible instead of doing some real work to prove them, hence me calling your method lazy.

The fact that you think that some patched together quotes and statements like "go look at the news" is substantial is a joke to anybody who has every done any multi-tiered research.

I'm skimming your posts because your method makes no sense for proving a trend. It is inadequate. I'm not going to sugarcoat that for you and tell you that you've actually made your point.

GreySeal9

Osama bin Laden and Al'qaeda attacked america because of POLITICAL reasons, unlike you im not going to ask you to just beleive my words rather il let you hear it from the man himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiKyWJRRjnU

And id suggest taking off the anotations as this was the only vid i could find.

You mean, unlike Hopeless right?

I'm not at a place where I can watch the video, but thanks for posting it.

Yh sorry i felt i had to jump in on your discussion there. For clarifaction my comment was directed to Hopeless