Koran burning cancelled

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"] Saw it on the news one sec. Here ya go :D

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/09/florida-pastor-calls-off-quran-burning-says-mega-mosque-to-move-away-from-ground-zero.html

If you noticed it too. It said the agreement wasn't confirmed, but it was said.

bbkkristian

I can near garuntee you it won't be moved.

Considering their 100's of millions of dollars probably means more to them than the symbollic burning of their holy book....

[QUOTE="ohdearohdear"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I love how all these people on OT hostile to Islam try to hide it and try to come up with little ways to justify their gutter morality.

Super_Toad_64

I say they should instead burn the Afghanistan flag. See how they like it. They burn the U.S. flag to protest something that isn't even going to happen. They burn the flag of the country that is protecting them and trying to make Afghanistan better. I say we pull our troops out, let the taliban take over and see how they like it.SF_KiLLaMaN

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

My scenario was obviously to counter your scenario, so we assume that all things in the scenario are equal.

Please don't read your ugly double-standards into my scenario.

I am trying to make the point that we should hold individual's accountable.

Now, I would totally understand if someone blamed a religion in their pain, but it would be irrational.

Your attempts to justify such a mode of thinking is telling.

GreySeal9

And i'm not creating any double standards..the trend when a murder is comitted by a Muslim tends to be that they claim to do it for "allah"..

And so what if it is irrational?..We still conclude that he would not only burn it because their beliefs do not agree with his..

I all ready agreed with you that disagreement was not the only reason. Clearly. Were not paying attention? Didn't i just say in the other post "ok" when you stated such a thing?..Not paying attention?..

And if you're going to talk about this trend about Muslim murders, please site evidence.

October 19, 1994
" A powerful bomb, apparently placed by Islamic militants opposed to the Arab-Israeli peace negotiations, blew up a crowded bus during the morning rush hour in the heart of Tel Aviv, Israel, killing 22 people and wounding 48."

July 18, 1995
" A huge bomb exploded destroying a seven-story downtown building housing two Jewish groups in Buenos Aires, Argentina. At least 26 people were killed and 127 injured."

February 26, 1993
" A tremendous underground explosion believed to be caused by a bomb, shook the 110 story twin towers of Manhattan's World Trade Center, in New York, killing at least five people, injuring more than 1000, and sending tens of thousands of workers fleeing for their lives down crowded smoke-filled stairs."

May 4, 1992
" 13 Egyptian Christians were shot dead by Muslim fundamentalists in Mansheit Nasser, Egypt. Ten Christian farmers were ambushed and murdered while working in their fields. A Christian teacher was shot in the local school while teaching a ****of ten-year olds. A Christian doctor was shot dead outside his home."

These are just a few samples out of thousands of terrorist attacks, which all have one element in common: They were all committed by Muslim fundamentalists. Who act in the name of their religion..http://www.answering-islam.org/NonMuslims/die_kill.htm

"I am one of the servants of Allah. We do our duty of fighting for the sake of the religion of Allah. It is also our duty to send a call to all the people of the world to enjoy this great light and to embrace Islam and experience the happiness in Islam. Our primary mission is nothing but the furthering of this religion."
Osama bin Laden, May 1998

"In the name of Allah the Avenger, I swear on the holy book to perform my sacred duty as a soldier of Islam in this Jihad to restore to this world the light of divine justice... Allah demands no less. For to die in the cause is to be sent immediately to paradise."

A Taliban official, explaining why the group is violent.

"But the coming Islamic caliphate country will not rise except at the hands of the fighting sect who raises the flag of Allah and Jihad."

Statement from the Salafi terrorist group, one of several fundamentalist cells responsible for the slaughter of 150,000 men women and children in the 1990's.

"Our Jihad consists of killing and dispersing all those who fight against Allah and his Prophet."

"Throat-slitting and murder until the power is Allah's!"

Both quotes from leaders of the Armed Islamic Group (GIA). The first spoken by Sid Ahmed Mourad, the second from Abdelkader Hattab.

Chechnya

"True resistance is helped by Allah the Supreme and the battles are for His just cause"

Abu Hafs, Mujahideen and one of the region's most prolific killer

Egypt

"Allah is our objective, the Quran is our Constitution, the Prophet is our leader, Jihad is our way, and death for the sake of Allah is the highest of our aspirations."

Credo of the Muslim Brotherhood, which has spawned attacks and numerous subsidiary terrorist organizations

India

"Democracy is among the menaces we inherited from an alien government. It is part of the system we are fighting against… It is not possible to work within a democracy and establish an Islamic system… If Allah gives us a chance, we will try to bring in the pure concept of an Islamic Caliphate.''

"The notion of the sovereignty of the people is anti-Islamic. Only Allah is sovereign.''

Hafiz Mohammad Saeed, the leader of the Lashkar-e-Toiba terrorist organization.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/In-The-Name-of-Allah.htm

Thirdly, you did justify it. When I said that it would be ridiculous, you objected. And then when I posed the same scenario involving a Christian, you avoiding rationalizing the "pain burning." You never stated that he would be doing it in the name of his God..so i cannot assume that he would be doing such a thing..

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I love how all these people on OT hostile to Islam try to hide it and try to come up with little ways to justify their gutter morality.

Snipes_2

I'm quite comfortable on my high horse.

Seriously, that's my honest opinion and a cute little picture ain't gonna change that.

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

I can near garuntee you it won't be moved.

Pixel-Pirate

Considering their 100's of millions of dollars probably means more to them than the symbollic burning of their holy book....

All I can read from this is "...been cancelled for now." I don't doubt there will be something that gets him back on track to doing it, and it will cause him, and America a world of hurt. I am currently reading the Qur'an as a protest to his protest, as a means of supporting not only the freedom of thought and religion, but in support of academic intellectualism and being anti-book-burning.

EDIT: I forgot to add that I am finding it quite interesting, and also intruiging how thereare so many passages in it that purport to patience, compassion and selflessness... and am confused as to where these extremists are getting this "we must kill infidels" from. God is the one and only judge, and it is not a Muslim's duty to do His will, only God can do his Will. A true Muslim will only submit to God.

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Yes, you are. You always are and it's crystal clear. Most of us weren't born yesterday. And how is trying to prove that one would not burn a religious book solely for the reason that the religion in question does not agree with his religious beliefs suddenly trying to "tear down Islam"?..

I all ready conceded that you were right that disagreement with beliefs wasn't the only reason for burning a religious book. Ok then..

But you tried to justify burning the Quran and when I posed the same scenario for the Bible, you revealed your ugly double standards. My scenario stated that it would be in the name of their God..as that appears to be the trend..your scenario did not..and i cannot come to that conclusion as that is rarely the case..therefore, i am left to go by only the parameters you defined..being that a man..who happens to be Christian killed your family..

Super_Toad_64

Please show some factual evidence of this trend

[QUOTE="Super_Toad_64"]

[QUOTE="ohdearohdear"]What's wrong with being hostile to Islam?ohdearohdear

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I love how all these people on OT hostile to Islam try to hide it and try to come up with little ways to justify their gutter morality.

GreySeal9

I'm quite comfortable on my high horse.

Seriously, that's my honest opinion and a cute little picture ain't gonna change that.

[QUOTE="ohdearohdear"][QUOTE="Super_Toad_64"] Everything seeing as Islam is not hostile towards you.

Super_Toad_64

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"] Let the bets begin! haha :D JK Well if they say no, then there goes the books... :roll:bbkkristian

Considering their 100's of millions of dollars probably means more to them than the symbollic burning of their holy book....

Money talks.

[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"][QUOTE="Silenthps"] uh, since when does burning a book = hating a person?Silenthps

Not every religion needs to kowtow to Jesus. The Quran actually describes Jesus rather favorably, but doesn't recognize him as God.

Both the Bible and the Quran have alot of not so kosher passages, so I hardly see why some of Christians are so arrogant in that regard.

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Considering their 100's of millions of dollars probably means more to them than the symbollic burning of their holy book....

Pixel-Pirate

Money talks.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"].

Snipes_2

I'm quite comfortable on my high horse.

Seriously, that's my honest opinion and a cute little picture ain't gonna change that.

I'm sure there are lots of people that want to pat you on the back for your hard work.

[QUOTE="Super_Toad_64"]

[QUOTE="ohdearohdear"]The Quran identifies non-Muslims as 'the worst of all beasts in Allah's sight'. If I called Muslims the 'worst of all beasts', you'd see that as Islamophobic and very hostile, and you'd be quite right to.ohdearohdear

Every religion is hostile toward the non believer. Christianity included.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Even if I disagree with what he was planning to do, I do not agree with calling it off out of fear. Which seemed to be one of the main reasons to not do it "People will get hurt in retaliation!".

I don't believe in kowtowing our freedoms out of fear. Even if it is an act I disagree with.

Pixel-Pirate

He is not kowtowing his freedoms. He is deciding not to go through with something.

We decided to not do things, things that can be considered a right, ALL THE TIME.

It is called "weighing the consequences."

I essentially agree with what LJ said in the other thread. I do not agree with making fear based decisions.

No, I'm sure you do. You just don't think you do. Everybody makes fear-based decisions. The idea of not making fear based decision is a pipe dream.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I'm quite comfortable on my high horse.

Seriously, that's my honest opinion and a cute little picture ain't gonna change that.

GreySeal9

I'm sure there are lots of people that want to pat you on the back for your hard work.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"] Um, I'm not too sure about that... Most Islamic people are VERY devout to their religion :|Xx_Hopeless_xX

Money talks.

It's just logic. Islamic people are people and they are unlikely to throw away an utter fortune to stop a book burning.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] I'm not attempting to justify it :lol:..i'm stating it is illogical to state that he would only burn it because their beliefs do not agree with his..

And i'm not creating any double standards..the trend when a murder is comitted by a Muslim tends to be that they claim to do it for "allah"..

And so what if it is irrational?..We still conclude that he would not only burn it because their beliefs do not agree with his..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

I all ready agreed with you that disagreement was not the only reason. Clearly. Were not paying attention? Didn't i just say in the other post "ok" when you stated such a thing?..Not paying attention?..

And if you're going to talk about this trend about Muslim murders, please site evidence.

October 19, 1994
" A powerful bomb, apparently placed by Islamic militants opposed to the Arab-Israeli peace negotiations, blew up a crowded bus during the morning rush hour in the heart of Tel Aviv, Israel, killing 22 people and wounding 48."

July 18, 1995
" A huge bomb exploded destroying a seven-story downtown building housing two Jewish groups in Buenos Aires, Argentina. At least 26 people were killed and 127 injured."

February 26, 1993
" A tremendous underground explosion believed to be caused by a bomb, shook the 110 story twin towers of Manhattan's World Trade Center, in New York, killing at least five people, injuring more than 1000, and sending tens of thousands of workers fleeing for their lives down crowded smoke-filled stairs."

May 4, 1992
" 13 Egyptian Christians were shot dead by Muslim fundamentalists in Mansheit Nasser, Egypt. Ten Christian farmers were ambushed and murdered while working in their fields. A Christian teacher was shot in the local school while teaching a ****of ten-year olds. A Christian doctor was shot dead outside his home."

These are just a few samples out of thousands of terrorist attacks, which all have one element in common: They were all committed by Muslim fundamentalists. Who act in the name of their religion..http://www.answering-islam.org/NonMuslims/die_kill.htm

"I am one of the servants of Allah. We do our duty of fighting for the sake of the religion of Allah. It is also our duty to send a call to all the people of the world to enjoy this great light and to embrace Islam and experience the happiness in Islam. Our primary mission is nothing but the furthering of this religion."
Osama bin Laden, May 1998

"In the name of Allah the Avenger, I swear on the holy book to perform my sacred duty as a soldier of Islam in this Jihad to restore to this world the light of divine justice... Allah demands no less. For to die in the cause is to be sent immediately to paradise."

A Taliban official, explaining why the group is violent.

"But the coming Islamic caliphate country will not rise except at the hands of the fighting sect who raises the flag of Allah and Jihad."

Statement from the Salafi terrorist group, one of several fundamentalist cells responsible for the slaughter of 150,000 men women and children in the 1990's.

"Our Jihad consists of killing and dispersing all those who fight against Allah and his Prophet."

"Throat-slitting and murder until the power is Allah's!"

Both quotes from leaders of the Armed Islamic Group (GIA). The first spoken by Sid Ahmed Mourad, the second from Abdelkader Hattab.

Chechnya

"True resistance is helped by Allah the Supreme and the battles are for His just cause"

Abu Hafs, Mujahideen and one of the region's most prolific killer

Egypt

"Allah is our objective, the Quran is our Constitution, the Prophet is our leader, Jihad is our way, and death for the sake of Allah is the highest of our aspirations."

Credo of the Muslim Brotherhood, which has spawned attacks and numerous subsidiary terrorist organizations

India

"Democracy is among the menaces we inherited from an alien government. It is part of the system we are fighting against… It is not possible to work within a democracy and establish an Islamic system… If Allah gives us a chance, we will try to bring in the pure concept of an Islamic Caliphate.''

"The notion of the sovereignty of the people is anti-Islamic. Only Allah is sovereign.''

Hafiz Mohammad Saeed, the leader of the Lashkar-e-Toiba terrorist organization.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/In-The-Name-of-Allah.htm

Thirdly, you did justify it. When I said that it would be ridiculous, you objected. And then when I posed the same scenario involving a Christian, you avoiding rationalizing the "pain burning." You never stated that he would be doing it in the name of his God..so i cannot assume that he would be doing such a thing..

And what are you trying to prove with that wall of text?

[QUOTE="ohdearohdear"][QUOTE="Super_Toad_64"] you mean kafur, as in sinner, meaning the religion of islam says that those who don't follow islam and its teachings are bad. What do you want, Islam to say its okay dont worry about all these teachings and everything its just for LULZ.??

Pixel-Pirate

Every religion is hostile toward the non believer. Christianity included.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

He is not kowtowing his freedoms. He is deciding not to go through with something.

We decided to not do things, things that can be considered a right, ALL THE TIME.

It is called "weighing the consequences."

GreySeal9

I essentially agree with what LJ said in the other thread. I do not agree with making fear based decisions.

No, I'm sure you do. You just don't think you do. Everybody makes fear-based decision. The idea of not making fear based decision is a pipe dream.

Then if you prefer, I'd rather people not make fear based decisions for me. Such as the government saying I should not do something because they fear it.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="ohdearohdear"]Then you were wrong, Islam IS hostile towards me as an unbeliever - and I'm only too happy to return the favour.ohdearohdear

Every religion is hostile toward the non believer. Christianity included.

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Money talks.

Pixel-Pirate

It's just logic. Islamic people are people and they are unlikely to throw away an utter fortune to stop a book burning.

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I all ready agreed with you that disagreement was not the only reason. Clearly. Were not paying attention? Didn't i just say in the other post "ok" when you stated such a thing?..Not paying attention?..

And if you're going to talk about this trend about Muslim murders, please site evidence.

October 19, 1994
" A powerful bomb, apparently placed by Islamic militants opposed to the Arab-Israeli peace negotiations, blew up a crowded bus during the morning rush hour in the heart of Tel Aviv, Israel, killing 22 people and wounding 48."

July 18, 1995
" A huge bomb exploded destroying a seven-story downtown building housing two Jewish groups in Buenos Aires, Argentina. At least 26 people were killed and 127 injured."

February 26, 1993
" A tremendous underground explosion believed to be caused by a bomb, shook the 110 story twin towers of Manhattan's World Trade Center, in New York, killing at least five people, injuring more than 1000, and sending tens of thousands of workers fleeing for their lives down crowded smoke-filled stairs."

May 4, 1992
" 13 Egyptian Christians were shot dead by Muslim fundamentalists in Mansheit Nasser, Egypt. Ten Christian farmers were ambushed and murdered while working in their fields. A Christian teacher was shot in the local school while teaching a ****of ten-year olds. A Christian doctor was shot dead outside his home."

These are just a few samples out of thousands of terrorist attacks, which all have one element in common: They were all committed by Muslim fundamentalists. Who act in the name of their religion..http://www.answering-islam.org/NonMuslims/die_kill.htm

"I am one of the servants of Allah. We do our duty of fighting for the sake of the religion of Allah. It is also our duty to send a call to all the people of the world to enjoy this great light and to embrace Islam and experience the happiness in Islam. Our primary mission is nothing but the furthering of this religion."
Osama bin Laden, May 1998

"In the name of Allah the Avenger, I swear on the holy book to perform my sacred duty as a soldier of Islam in this Jihad to restore to this world the light of divine justice... Allah demands no less. For to die in the cause is to be sent immediately to paradise."

A Taliban official, explaining why the group is violent.

"But the coming Islamic caliphate country will not rise except at the hands of the fighting sect who raises the flag of Allah and Jihad."

Statement from the Salafi terrorist group, one of several fundamentalist cells responsible for the slaughter of 150,000 men women and children in the 1990's.

"Our Jihad consists of killing and dispersing all those who fight against Allah and his Prophet."

"Throat-slitting and murder until the power is Allah's!"

Both quotes from leaders of the Armed Islamic Group (GIA). The first spoken by Sid Ahmed Mourad, the second from Abdelkader Hattab.

Chechnya

"True resistance is helped by Allah the Supreme and the battles are for His just cause"

Abu Hafs, Mujahideen and one of the region's most prolific killer

Egypt

"Allah is our objective, the Quran is our Constitution, the Prophet is our leader, Jihad is our way, and death for the sake of Allah is the highest of our aspirations."

Credo of the Muslim Brotherhood, which has spawned attacks and numerous subsidiary terrorist organizations

India

"Democracy is among the menaces we inherited from an alien government. It is part of the system we are fighting against… It is not possible to work within a democracy and establish an Islamic system… If Allah gives us a chance, we will try to bring in the pure concept of an Islamic Caliphate.''

"The notion of the sovereignty of the people is anti-Islamic. Only Allah is sovereign.''

Hafiz Mohammad Saeed, the leader of the Lashkar-e-Toiba terrorist organization.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/In-The-Name-of-Allah.htm

Thirdly, you did justify it. When I said that it would be ridiculous, you objected. And then when I posed the same scenario involving a Christian, you avoiding rationalizing the "pain burning." You never stated that he would be doing it in the name of his God..so i cannot assume that he would be doing such a thing..

GreySeal9

And what are you trying to prove with that wall of text?

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="ohdearohdear"]Then you were wrong, Islam IS hostile towards me as an unbeliever - and I'm only too happy to return the favour.ohdearohdear

Every religion is hostile toward the non believer. Christianity included.

You act is religions are personally hostile toward you when really the hostility towards unbelievers in them is simply a rhetorical tool to re-enforce belief.

There's no reason to take it personal.

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Money talks.

Pixel-Pirate

It's just logic. Islamic people are people and they are unlikely to throw away an utter fortune to stop a book burning.

Christianity is not Hostile towards Non Believers though. They actually go out of their way to help those of other religions. I.e., trying to save the Muslim from being stoned. Snipes_2

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] I agree with him..what is this..i don't even..bbkkristian

It's just logic. Islamic people are people and they are unlikely to throw away an utter fortune to stop a book burning.

The building plans would need to be redone to suit the new location. Construction will likely be set back, they would need to pay people to design another building. Also, WHO is giving them money? 20-30 million dollars doesn't just jump out of mid air.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Christianity is not Hostile towards Non Believers though. They actually go out of their way to help those of other religions. I.e., trying to save the Muslim from being stoned. ohdearohdear

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Christianity is not Hostile towards Non Believers though. They actually go out of their way to help those of other religions. I.e., trying to save the Muslim from being stoned. ohdearohdear

[QUOTE="ohdearohdear"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Christianity is not Hostile towards Non Believers though. They actually go out of their way to help those of other religions. I.e., trying to save the Muslim from being stoned. bbkkristian

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

Xx_Hopeless_xX

And what are you trying to prove with that wall of text?

You think that pasting together some incident proves your points.

If you want to prove a trend, use statistics.

I'm not going to take anything less than statistics seriously, especially not your garbage link.

Let's try to keep our standards high.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Christianity is not Hostile towards Non Believers though. They actually go out of their way to help those of other religions. I.e., trying to save the Muslim from being stoned. ohdearohdear

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

It's just logic. Islamic people are people and they are unlikely to throw away an utter fortune to stop a book burning.

Pixel-Pirate

The building plans would need to be redone to suit the new location. Construction will likely be set back, they would need to pay people to design another building. Also, WHO is giving them money? 20-30 million dollars doesn't just jump out of mid air.

Christianity is not Hostile towards Non Believers though. Snipes_2

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

And what are you trying to prove with that wall of text?

GreySeal9

You think that pasting together some incident proves your points.

If you want to prove a trend, use statistics.

I'm not going to take anything less than statistics seriously, especially not your garbage link.

Let's try to keep our standards high.

[QUOTE="ohdearohdear"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Christianity is not Hostile towards Non Believers though. They actually go out of their way to help those of other religions. I.e., trying to save the Muslim from being stoned. Snipes_2

You're not correct. Christiianity says that believing Jesus is God is the only way to heaven.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Christianity is not Hostile towards Non Believers though. foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="ohdearohdear"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Christianity is not Hostile towards Non Believers though. They actually go out of their way to help those of other religions. I.e., trying to save the Muslim from being stoned. Snipes_2

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

And what are you trying to prove with that wall of text?

GreySeal9

You think that pasting together some incident proves your points.

If you want to prove a trend, use statistics.

I'm not going to take anything less than statistics seriously, especially not your garbage link.

Let's try to keep our standards high.

If you want to prove a trend, use statistics.GreySeal9

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="ohdearohdear"]I said 'Christianity', not 'Christians'. Christian theology says I deserve to, and will unless I convert, burn in hell for eternity. That's hostility.GreySeal9

You're not correct. Christiianity says that believing Jesus is God is the only way to heaven.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] Wow, i can't even..that..going by those quotes and many others...there has been a trend in regards to followers of Islam claiming to kill in the name of Allah..in response to your request for facts supporting my claim..in which these do..

Snipes_2

You think that pasting together some incident proves your points.

If you want to prove a trend, use statistics.

I'm not going to take anything less than statistics seriously, especially not your garbage link.

Let's try to keep our standards high.

That's his problem, not mine.

He made a point about a trend. Evidence of trends need to be statistical.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="ohdearohdear"]I said 'Christianity', not 'Christians'. Christian theology says I deserve to, and will unless I convert, burn in hell for eternity. That's hostility.GreySeal9

You're not correct. Christiianity says that believing Jesus is God is the only way to heaven.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="ohdearohdear"]Then you were wrong, Islam IS hostile towards me as an unbeliever - and I'm only too happy to return the favour.ohdearohdear

Every religion is hostile toward the non believer. Christianity included.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="ohdearohdear"]I said 'Christianity', not 'Christians'. Christian theology says I deserve to, and will unless I convert, burn in hell for eternity. That's hostility.ohdearohdear

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] Wow, i can't even..that..going by those quotes and many others...there has been a trend in regards to followers of Islam claiming to kill in the name of Allah..in response to your request for facts supporting my claim..in which these do..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

You think that pasting together some incident proves your points.

If you want to prove a trend, use statistics.

I'm not going to take anything less than statistics seriously, especially not your garbage link.

Let's try to keep our standards high.

Simply pasting together some incidents does not prove your point. Why in the world do you think it would?

I'm not saying that there is statistics. What I am saying is that if you're going to make a claim like that, then you'd better have some.

But you don't.