i finished watching all the riot videos at fast food joints on worldstarhiphop.com so this comes just in time
Riverwolf007
:lol: That is too funny.
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i finished watching all the riot videos at fast food joints on worldstarhiphop.com so this comes just in time
Riverwolf007
:lol: That is too funny.
Serino, the detective who interviewed Zimmerman during the investigation was asked if he thought Zimmerman was telling the truth during his interviews and the witnesses answer was yes.
Edit to show cops answer to questions:
5:56 p.m. ET: Serino had told Zimmerman he believed Martin may have videotaped the incident.
"I believe his words were, 'Thank God, I was hoping somebody would videotape it,'" said Serino. "Either he was telling the truth or he was a complete pathological liar. One of the two."
Serino says nothing indicated to him that Zimmerman was a pathological liar.
"You think he was telling the truth?" asked O'Mara.
"Yes," said Serino.Linked Article
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[QUOTE="EagleEyedOne"]Black people are so sophisticated.Bucked20Yeah,they should be more like white people and start riots after hockey games lol
[QUOTE="Bucked20"][QUOTE="EagleEyedOne"]Black people are so sophisticated.ThaneKrios28Yeah,they should be more like white people and start riots after hockey games lol It's funny because black people start riots after basketball games.
[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]They charged him with murder and not manslaughter. That's why he will be ruled innocent.BMD004I'll bet you anything he won't be ruled innocent. I guarantee it.That's not going far out on a limb considering you can't be found "innocent" in court. :P
I'll bet you anything he won't be ruled innocent. I guarantee it.That's not going far out on a limb considering you can't be found "innocent" in court. :PExactly. :)[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]They charged him with murder and not manslaughter. That's why he will be ruled innocent.Pirate700
[QUOTE="Pirate700"]That's not going far out on a limb considering you can't be found "innocent" in court. :PExactly. :)[QUOTE="BMD004"]I'll bet you anything he won't be ruled innocent. I guarantee it.BMD004
And with the "defense" witness that was on the stand before court was adjourned for the day, one could say that a not guilty verdict is in the future.
[QUOTE="dave123321"]Will you guys riot if there is a guilty verdict?nomsayin
My dad made an analysis video of this case. Tell me what you think about it.
:| is the only resonse I have.
What's the video about? On my phone. Don't have the wifidave123321
I wasn't going to watch all 17 minutes of it.
[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"][QUOTE="Bucked20"] Yeah,they should be more like white people and start riots after hockey gamesEagleEyedOnelol It's funny because black people start riots after basketball games.
I bet you wouldn't say that to my face. Then again you're on the internet and you'd probably get off for self-defense. All I am going to say if you get out of a car and follow me around I am not going to be comfortable with that. I don't know what your intentions are but I know what's causally strolling and what's trailing. It'll make me believe I have to take action if I feel like my space is being violated. However, Idk what happened that night. I can say from experience I am black and I was young once, I know how it feels when someone looks at you as if you shouldn't exist especially if you look different or dress different than what is excepted by "society". I've been trailed in stores, neighborhoods, wearing the same thing as this kid. it's a shame it came to this but If people were strong mind, body and spirit this wouldn't have happened. Only people that know what happen that night truly is Trevon & ZImmerman...this case singlehandedly shows the country is still as racist, ignorant and culturally divided ever sense 1970.
[QUOTE="dave123321"]What's the video about? On my phone. Don't have the wifiWhiteKnight77
I wasn't going to watch all 17 minutes of it.
I hear yaI bet you wouldn't say that to my face. Then again you're on the internet and you'd probably get off for self-defense. All I am going to say if you get out of my car and follow me around I am not going to be comfortable with that. I don't know what your intentions are but I know what's causally strolling and what's trailing. I am black and I was young once, I know how it feels when someone looks at you as if you shouldn't exist especially if you look different or dress different than what is excepted by "society". I've been trailed in stores, neighborhoods, wearing the same thing as this kid. it's a shame it came to this but If people were strong mind, body and spirit this wouldn't have happened. Only people that know what happen that night truly is Trevon & ZImmerman...this case singlehandedly shows the country is still as racist, ignorant and culturally divided ever sense 1970.Enfamous_Mr_BHC
Would you attack someone for following or trailing you or would you call the police instead?
[QUOTE="Enfamous_Mr_BHC"]I bet you wouldn't say that to my face. Then again you're on the internet and you'd probably get off for self-defense. All I am going to say if you get out of my car and follow me around I am not going to be comfortable with that. I don't know what your intentions are but I know what's causally strolling and what's trailing. I am black and I was young once, I know how it feels when someone looks at you as if you shouldn't exist especially if you look different or dress different than what is excepted by "society". I've been trailed in stores, neighborhoods, wearing the same thing as this kid. it's a shame it came to this but If people were strong mind, body and spirit this wouldn't have happened. Only people that know what happen that night truly is Trevon & ZImmerman...this case singlehandedly shows the country is still as racist, ignorant and culturally divided ever sense 1970.WhiteKnight77
Would you attack someone for following or trailing you or would you call the police instead?
depends on the matter, if he backs off I would call. if he violates my space and I will try to gauge his intentions through conversation if he they allow it. If feel threaten I will attack either with the person getting closer in my "comfort space", a crazy sudden move (like reaching for something without warning) or a very very vicarious threat. I've been in situations like that before but I've only had to defuse one situation once ( I practice Judo/Kickboxing/Aikido/Muay Thai lift weights) but that was against another black man. I never believed in guns and never will if Zimmerman was unarmed would he have done the same thing?[QUOTE="Enfamous_Mr_BHC"]I bet you wouldn't say that to my face. Then again you're on the internet and you'd probably get off for self-defense. All I am going to say if you get out of my car and follow me around I am not going to be comfortable with that. I don't know what your intentions are but I know what's causally strolling and what's trailing. I am black and I was young once, I know how it feels when someone looks at you as if you shouldn't exist especially if you look different or dress different than what is excepted by "society". I've been trailed in stores, neighborhoods, wearing the same thing as this kid. it's a shame it came to this but If people were strong mind, body and spirit this wouldn't have happened. Only people that know what happen that night truly is Trevon & ZImmerman...this case singlehandedly shows the country is still as racist, ignorant and culturally divided ever sense 1970.WhiteKnight77
Would you attack someone for following or trailing you or would you call the police instead?
if i had to repeat myself more than once to someone that is not a police officer let alone has no authorty to persue me based on what they think is suspicious and if i say stop following me and if they dont comply then yes i would hit that person plain and simple because that to me says i am being threatened. nobody should have to say stop it more than once and lets not pretend otherwise because you would do the same thing given it if you were in the same situation
in fact what makes zimmerman qualified to get involved in such a thing?
hes a citizen not a trained authority figure
[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"][QUOTE="Enfamous_Mr_BHC"]I bet you wouldn't say that to my face. Then again you're on the internet and you'd probably get off for self-defense. All I am going to say if you get out of my car and follow me around I am not going to be comfortable with that. I don't know what your intentions are but I know what's causally strolling and what's trailing. I am black and I was young once, I know how it feels when someone looks at you as if you shouldn't exist especially if you look different or dress different than what is excepted by "society". I've been trailed in stores, neighborhoods, wearing the same thing as this kid. it's a shame it came to this but If people were strong mind, body and spirit this wouldn't have happened. Only people that know what happen that night truly is Trevon & ZImmerman...this case singlehandedly shows the country is still as racist, ignorant and culturally divided ever sense 1970.ThaneKrios28
Would you attack someone for following or trailing you or would you call the police instead?
if i had to repeat myself more than once to someone that is not a police officer and say stop following me and if they dont comply then yes i would hit that person plain and simple nobody should have to say stop it more than once and lets not pretend otherwise because you would do the same thing given it if you were in the same situation Then you'd be arrested.:)another thing, a lot of Black people or Afro-Americans and Hispanics do not call, trust or believe in the police. Growing up in neighborhoods were it's predominantly Black or Hispanic it's not taught to call the police when you feel threaten or in danger. .Enfamous_Mr_BHCthats not entirely true at all. thats only in areas where people literally fight tooth and nail not everyone who is black or hispanic come from that form of backround
[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"][QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]if i had to repeat myself more than once to someone that is not a police officer and say stop following me and if they dont comply then yes i would hit that person plain and simple nobody should have to say stop it more than once and lets not pretend otherwise because you would do the same thing given it if you were in the same situation Then you'd be arrested.:) see i find that hyporcritical than because its ok to legally carry a fire arm for saftey but you cant legal defend yourself with your fist for the exact same reason if people should be legally able to coneal carry than i think people should be able to legally defend themselves if they feel threatened it cant just be one and thats itWould you attack someone for following or trailing you or would you call the police instead?
LJS9502_basic
another thing, a lot of Black people or Afro-Americans and Hispanics do not call, trust or believe in the police. Growing up in neighborhoods were it's predominantly Black or Hispanic it's not taught to call the police when you feel threaten or in danger. There is an instilled stand and fight your ground mentality or run away. I was fortunate to be big and trained so I had the discipline to know when I should run, stand my ground or alert someone. It also has to do with background, what you may find common place in your culture could be different and alien to people I grew up with. I think it's unfortunate it takes the death of a kid to make this country at odds with each other about race, class and equality. It's the same thing we've been battling with for 30 yrs yet it's no different as far as perspective and understanding.Enfamous_Mr_BHCLOL folks still use the term Afro-American?
another thing, a lot of Black people or Afro-Americans and Hispanics do not call, trust or believe in the police. Growing up in neighborhoods were it's predominantly Black or Hispanic it's not taught to call the police when you feel threaten or in danger. There is an instilled stand and fight your ground mentality or run away. I was fortunate to be big and trained so I had the discipline to know when I should run, stand my ground or alert someone. It also has to do with background, what you may find common place in your culture could be different and alien to people I grew up with. I think it's unfortunate it takes the death of a kid to make this country at odds with each other about race, class and equality. It's the same thing we've been battling with for 30 yrs yet it's no different as far as perspective and understanding.Enfamous_Mr_BHCThis issue isn't about race, class, nor equality. :|
[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Then you'd be arrested.:)LJS9502_basicsee i find that hyporcritical than because its ok to legally carry a fire arm for saftey but you cant legal defend yourself with your fist for the exact same reason if people should be legally able to coneal carry than i think people should be able to legally defend themselves if they feel threatened it cant just be one and thats it You cannot hit someone for walking in the same direction you are. :|
3 weeks ago i go to the store to pick up some stuff. some black guy spots and follows and even shouted at me. i dont know this guy but i had this weird feeling he may be a mugger so i go into the store wich he follows me to and dosent come in and when i came out he asks me you want any pot or pills. i politley tell the guy not my thing and i continue to walk and he follows
the only way i got out of that was i had my hand in my pocket pretending i had a knife on me and luckly nothing happened because well i had nothing
that to me is a situation where it couldve turned ugly but its ok in the state of florida to persue a guy with a fire arm but in il you can go to jail for defending yourself
makes sense right?
[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]depends on the matter, if he backs off I would call. if he violates my space and I will try to gauge his intentions through conversation if he they allow it. If feel threaten I will attack either with the person getting closer in my "comfort space", a crazy sudden move (like reaching for something without warning) or a very very vicarious threat. I've been in situations like that before but I've only had to defuse one situation once ( I practice Judo/Kickboxing/Aikido/Muay Thai lift weights) but that was against another black man. I never believed in guns and never will if Zimmerman was unarmed would he have done the same thing?Would you attack someone for following or trailing you or would you call the police instead?
Enfamous_Mr_BHC
Let's look at what happened that night. Trayvon was reported to and it was recorded as such, that he was originally approaching Zimmerman's vehicle. He then turned and ran away and did this while on the phone with someone. While Zimmerman did get out of his vehicle to follow Martin, he never got close enough to talk with him as Martin disappeared (which was also recorded). Now, it was suggested that Zimmerman did not need to follow, but there was nothing illegal about that. Zimmerman was on his way back to his vehicle after telling the police dispatcher that he no longer saw Martin. Martin could have ended his call with the girl and called the police after he lost Zimmerman, yet didn't, probably due to his previous problems (speculation), after all, he was at his fathers due to being suspended from school for an empty bag of weed.
Now, it does not matter if you were taught that the police are out to screw you somehow, the proper response is to call the cops if you feel you are in danger. Martin's remarks to the girl show he was at least concerned as to what was happening. Calling the police and instead of possible trying to handle it himself by confronting the person he was concerned about would have been the proper response instead of assaulting someone. He could also have stopped running and asked Zimmerman what was up, yet didn't do that either.
It is one thing to confront someone face to face, but another to disappear only to pop up somewhere when someone least expects it and suckerpunch them and the injuries and what transpired points to that happening.
[QUOTE="Enfamous_Mr_BHC"]another thing, a lot of Black people or Afro-Americans and Hispanics do not call, trust or believe in the police. Growing up in neighborhoods were it's predominantly Black or Hispanic it's not taught to call the police when you feel threaten or in danger. .ThaneKrios28thats not entirely true at all. thats only in areas where people literally fight tooth and nail not everyone who is black or hispanic come from that form of backround I agree I was talking about the people I know and neighborhoods that I know. I once conducted a survey in college about the matter and got an overwhelming result about how they felt about the intentions of law enforcement. It was wrong of me to not specify that but I was caught up in the moment
[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"][QUOTE="Enfamous_Mr_BHC"]another thing, a lot of Black people or Afro-Americans and Hispanics do not call, trust or believe in the police. Growing up in neighborhoods were it's predominantly Black or Hispanic it's not taught to call the police when you feel threaten or in danger. .Enfamous_Mr_BHCthats not entirely true at all. thats only in areas where people literally fight tooth and nail not everyone who is black or hispanic come from that form of backround I agree I was talking about the people I know and neighborhoods that I know. I once conducted a survey in college about the matter and got an overwhelming result about how they felt about the intentions of law enforcement. It was wrong of me to not specify that but I was caught up in the moment eh i have been guilty of that myself so no worries on my end
You cannot hit someone for walking in the same direction you are. :|[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"] see i find that hyporcritical than because its ok to legally carry a fire arm for saftey but you cant legal defend yourself with your fist for the exact same reason if people should be legally able to coneal carry than i think people should be able to legally defend themselves if they feel threatened it cant just be one and thats itThaneKrios28
3 weeks ago i go to the store to pick up some stuff. some black guy spots and follows and even shouted at me. i dont know this guy but i had this weird feeling he may be a mugger so i go into the store wich he follows me to and dosent come in and when i came out he asks me you want any pot or pills. i politley tell the guy not my thing and i continue to walk and he follows
the only way i got out of that wa si had my hand in my pocket pretending i had a knife on me and luckly nothing happened because well i had nothing
that to me is a situation where it couldve turned ugly and if i were to defend myself id be locked up but its ok in the state of florida to persue a guy with a legal fire arm
Then why would you not have called the police?
[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"]You cannot hit someone for walking in the same direction you are. :|[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"] see i find that hyporcritical than because its ok to legally carry a fire arm for saftey but you cant legal defend yourself with your fist for the exact same reason if people should be legally able to coneal carry than i think people should be able to legally defend themselves if they feel threatened it cant just be one and thats itLJS9502_basic
3 weeks ago i go to the store to pick up some stuff. some black guy spots and follows and even shouted at me. i dont know this guy but i had this weird feeling he may be a mugger so i go into the store wich he follows me to and dosent come in and when i came out he asks me you want any pot or pills. i politley tell the guy not my thing and i continue to walk and he follows
the only way i got out of that wa si had my hand in my pocket pretending i had a knife on me and luckly nothing happened because well i had nothing
that to me is a situation where it couldve turned ugly and if i were to defend myself id be locked up but its ok in the state of florida to persue a guy with a legal fire arm
Then why would you not have called the police?[/QUOTE i didnt have my phone on me
see i find that hyporcritical than because its ok to legally carry a fire arm for saftey but you cant legal defend yourself with your fist for the exact same reason if people should be legally able to coneal carry than i think people should be able to legally defend themselves if they feel threatened it cant just be one and thats itThaneKrios28
How is it hypocritical that you cannot defend yourself with your fists? You most certainly can the same laws apply no matter the impliment used be it fists or a firearm.
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