looks like florida will riot if zimmerman gets off.....

[QUOTE="Enfamous_Mr_BHC"]another thing, a lot of Black people or Afro-Americans and Hispanics do not call, trust or believe in the police. Growing up in neighborhoods were it's predominantly Black or Hispanic it's not taught to call the police when you feel threaten or in danger. There is an instilled stand and fight your ground mentality or run away. I was fortunate to be big and trained so I had the discipline to know when I should run, stand my ground or alert someone. It also has to do with background, what you may find common place in your culture could be different and alien to people I grew up with. I think it's unfortunate it takes the death of a kid to make this country at odds with each other about race, class and equality. It's the same thing we've been battling with for 30 yrs yet it's no different as far as perspective and understanding.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Enfamous_Mr_BHC"]another thing, a lot of Black people or Afro-Americans and Hispanics do not call, trust or believe in the police. Growing up in neighborhoods were it's predominantly Black or Hispanic it's not taught to call the police when you feel threaten or in danger. There is an instilled stand and fight your ground mentality or run away. I was fortunate to be big and trained so I had the discipline to know when I should run, stand my ground or alert someone. It also has to do with background, what you may find common place in your culture could be different and alien to people I grew up with. I think it's unfortunate it takes the death of a kid to make this country at odds with each other about race, class and equality. It's the same thing we've been battling with for 30 yrs yet it's no different as far as perspective and understanding.Enfamous_Mr_BHC

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"] i didnt have my phone on meThaneKrios28

If someone throws a punch at you, especially one you see coming, you most certainly can defend yourself with your fists.  Sure, you might get detained once the cops show up, that is if they show up, as will the other party, but if you are defending yourself, you will be let go with no charges.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Enfamous_Mr_BHC"]another thing, a lot of Black people or Afro-Americans and Hispanics do not call, trust or believe in the police. Growing up in neighborhoods were it's predominantly Black or Hispanic it's not taught to call the police when you feel threaten or in danger. There is an instilled stand and fight your ground mentality or run away. I was fortunate to be big and trained so I had the discipline to know when I should run, stand my ground or alert someone. It also has to do with background, what you may find common place in your culture could be different and alien to people I grew up with. I think it's unfortunate it takes the death of a kid to make this country at odds with each other about race, class and equality. It's the same thing we've been battling with for 30 yrs yet it's no different as far as perspective and understanding.Enfamous_Mr_BHC

[QUOTE="Bucked20"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] You could have asked the store to call for you or to use their phone to do it yourself.ThaneKrios28

Well shit,just make sure u carry your phone everywhere u go

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]This issue isn't about race, class, nor equality. :|Enfamous_Mr_BHC

Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have already involved themselves with the case and are part of the reason why this trial even happened. 

[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Hey...tell him that...he's the one that was afraid.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"][QUOTE="Bucked20"] Ehhh he would be wasting a lot of time doing that,just hop in your car and go Bucked20

Well shit,just make sure u carry your phone everywhere u go

[QUOTE="Bucked20"]

[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"] um i walk buddy i try to stay in good shape and with it being summer now weather is perfect for such a thing i shouldnt have to worry about having a cell phone on me when i go for a walk god forbid because some moron may or may not attack me because i wont buy narcotiics from himThaneKrios28

Well shit,just make sure u carry your phone everywhere u go

[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Who said you cannot defend yourself with your fists? Granted they won't do much against a gun. However, if you're referring to your original scenario....you said you would hit someone for following you. You cannot assault people dude.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"][QUOTE="Bucked20"]

Well shit,just make sure u carry your phone everywhere u go

LJS9502_basic

And vice versa. 

I honestly think people who carry firearms have that sort of "courage" to put themselves in these situation because it's the feeling of invincibility. I bet if Zimmerman didn't have a weapon he wouldn't have put himself near Trevon and that's how it is with a lot of these guys holding. Fearful of everyone and everything without of gun but turn into a public defender or hardcore gangsta when they are holding. It's makes me upset.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]WTF is so hard to understand about this case? At no point did anyone say GZ was waving a gun around. I don't think it was even seen. He didn't pull it out and threaten TM....it only became an issue when he was being beaten. If he didn't have the gun...it's actually possible TM may have killed him. ThaneKrios28

There is a witness to who was on top and who was on the bottom. His testimony and his responses in an interview agree with what Zimmerman stated. Is that so hard to understand? That means that the only witness is not dead. That means only one witness is dead. 

I honestly think people who carry firearms have that sort of "courage" to put themselves in these situation because it's the feeling of invincibility. I bet if Zimmerman didn't have a weapon he wouldn't have put himself near Trevon and that's how it is with a lot of these guys holding. Fearful of everyone and everything without of gun but turn into a public defender or hardcore gangsta when they are holding. It's makes me upset.

Enfamous_Mr_BHC

There are instances where I am glad that there are people holding who just want to get on with their day. People like that can stop a crime spree in a heartbeat. The sad thing is that there are people who want to prey on others for something as simple as a conveyence to run from the cops due to their own actions and kill someone because of it. An armed person can often stop even more damage due to such mindsets. 

[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] No. None of the witnesses are dead. One of the actors is....you are aware that head on concrete can kill a person I hope. LJS9502_basic

i really doubt martin could kill zimmerman.ThaneKrios28

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"] yes i am aware and quit talking to me like an idiot because i am not and like i was saying how do you know when zimmerman spotted martin he didnt pull the gun and martin tried to take the gun away wich leads to a scuffle and both go down wile martin is on top and he does ground and pound? i really dont think martin for his size can just simply take down zimmerman who is bigger in size its easy to say the cop who testified favors zimmerman but keep in mind no cops were there during the situation also note the neighbor who stated he witnessed someone on top doing a mma type move but could not identify who it was the chick they had on who talked to martin on the phone imo isnt credible simply because she really cant verify anything since she wasnt there and the only really person in this case is dead and we will never know what happened because as much as i want him to zimmerman will not testify and even if he did its still only one side of the caseThaneKrios28

Why do I care that you are  white or gay? That has nothing to do with anything.

[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"]i really doubt martin could kill zimmerman.ad1x2

[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"]i really doubt martin could kill zimmerman.ad1x2

you are aware on how police have screwed up before right? i have read articles on how police put people in prison in wich 20 years later are now released because the evidence has proven they were not involved. yea its easy to say oh wow goody there out move on. its not that simple because 20 years is something those people will never get back and it also shows how certain police departments didnt do a really good investigation. is that what you want for this case? if you are a crime scene investigator wouldnt you want to explore any scenario? i can guarantee you now if the roles were reversed and if martin did this to zimmerman you would be saying guilty simply because hes black and keep in mind im a white guy saying this

ThaneKrios28

The cops did investigate and the cop that did that investigation was on the stand today. He went through Zimmerman with a fine toothed comb and even took Zimmerman to the scene of the shooting. Zimmerman's story never changed and another witness even showed that it was true. The cop who did the investigation even stated that yes, Zimmerman was telling the truth about what happened. 

[QUOTE="ad1x2"][QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"]i really doubt martin could kill zimmerman.ThaneKrios28

[QUOTE="ad1x2"]It is very possible to be beaten to death. If Martin banged Zimmerman's head into the ground enough times he could have had a head injury that later turned fatal. Granted, he probably wouldn't have took it that far but you never know. All that matters now is what the results of this trial will be.ThaneKrios28

If you want to get the upper hand really fast, you hit them when they least expect it. Size does not matter. A 100 pound weakling can knock a 350 pound man out with just one punch. Even if there were 50 pounds difference between Martin and Zimmerman, Martin had the reach over Zimmerman. 

he did nothing wrong. He defended himself let him go

no they won'tmrmusicman247

they let Casy Anthony off scott clean

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]no they won'tresevl4rlz

they let Casy Patterson off scott clean 

I just wanna kick over trash cans.

I just wanna kick over trash cans.

THE_DRUGGIE

What else do you expect to find on Twitter?TacticaI

Not surprising. Remember LA after Rodney King

Not surprising. Remember LA after Rodney King

lostrib

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

Not surprising. Remember LA after Rodney King

ThaneKrios28

The justice system being right does not prevent people from doing stupid shit.  Zimmerman has already been convicted in the media/societal court

[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

Not surprising. Remember LA after Rodney King

lostrib

The justice system being right does not prevent people from doing stupid shit.  Zimmerman has already been convicted in the media/societal court

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

Not surprising. Remember LA after Rodney King

ThaneKrios28

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"] but but according to idiots on this board the justice system was right : eye roll:ThaneKrios28

The justice system being right does not prevent people from doing stupid shit.  Zimmerman has already been convicted in the media/societal court

Well the thing about our justice system is that you are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.  

[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

Not surprising. Remember LA after Rodney King

LJS9502_basic

we must not get sarcasm, i guess

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"] but but according to idiots on this board the justice system was right : eye roll:lostrib

we must not get sarcasm, i guess

[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

The justice system being right does not prevent people from doing stupid shit.  Zimmerman has already been convicted in the media/societal court

lostrib

Well the thing about our justice system is that you are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.  

thats my big issue with how the justice system is

if a shooting happened and they suspected  a black or latino  person people would be like omg hes guilty simply because of skin toon and he may or not be gang affiliated.

it still bugs me someone like casey anthony who had a serious amount of evidence that shows she killed her daughter got off simply because shes what a 25 26 year old mother and attrative. now if a 40 year old obese non attractive woman did the same thing shed be getting the full sentence

and celebrities get away with murder. you have people like nick hogan ( son of hulk hogan) get into a car wreck that paralyzed a marine who spent 4 years of his life dodging  landmines bullets ect overseas. the kid got like a month in prison 

you have someone like charlie sheen get away with cocain on him and if that were just a everyday regular person they would get jail time and a felony

it just amazes me how our justice system favors a specific thing

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"] i was being sarcastic since people like to throw that comment aroundThaneKrios28

Well the thing about our justice system is that you are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.