Mosque Topic #10232-It's Like Japan Building a Shrine Near Pearl Harbor!

Oh wait...

http://www.midweek.com/content/columns/justthoughts_article/the_shinto_shrine_near_pearl_harbor/

http://www.japanprobe.com/2010/08/17/shinto-shrine-near-pearl-harbor/

Never heard of it for the last 60 years? Yeah, because most people shouldn't give a damn about such things, especially stuff that's been laid out for the last 250 years in the 1st Amendment.

The thing is no muslim country was responsible for 9/11.

and its more like a Community Center anyway...

[QUOTE="Chogyam"]

and its more like a Community Center anyway...

Sp4rtan_3

You know something, I didnt really care about this issue. But now that i see all the whining and moaning about it, I hope the owner builds the biggest, most extragvant mosque you can possibly build. This is such a non issue its not even funny.. wow seriouslyUnchartedZonePS

Agreed. You'd think people would get over something that happened 9 years ago.

You know something, I didnt really care about this issue. But now that i see all the whining and moaning about it, I hope the owner builds the biggest, most extragvant mosque you can possibly build. This is such a non issue its not even funny.. wow seriouslyUnchartedZonePS

You know something, I didnt really care about this issue. But now that i see all the whining and moaning about it, I hope the owner builds the biggest, most extragvant mosque you can possibly build. This is such a non issue its not even funny.. wow seriouslyUnchartedZonePS

[QUOTE="UnchartedZonePS"]You know something, I didnt really care about this issue. But now that i see all the whining and moaning about it, I hope the owner builds the biggest, most extragvant mosque you can possibly build. This is such a non issue its not even funny.. wow seriously8-Bitterness

The mosque-airport's runway would point towards Mecca. :P

They talk about this because they got nothing else to talk about flash_drive

[QUOTE="UnchartedZonePS"]You know something, I didnt really care about this issue. But now that i see all the whining and moaning about it, I hope the owner builds the biggest, most extragvant mosque you can possibly build. This is such a non issue its not even funny.. wow seriouslySp4rtan_3

I don't get it. All of you people who keep calling the opposition bigots know full well why reasonable people are against it, so why do you try and spin it as if it's not a big deal?

I don't get it. All of you people who keep calling the opposition bigots know full well why reasonable people are against it, so why do you try and spin it as if it's not a big deal?

airshocker

Isn't there a US WW2 memorial in Hiroshima and Nagasaki too?Treflis

I don't believe so, but there are US WW2 Memorials on Iwo Jima and Okinawa. The Iwo Jima memorial also faces a Japanese memorial on the opposite side of the island. The memorial in Okinawa is a memorial honoring both sides of the conflict and promoting peace. The only memorials that I know of in Hiroshima and Nagasaki are memorials to the victims of the atomic bombs.

Because it's not. Seriously, bro. Calm down.

jaydough

But it is.

And since we've had this discussion about five times already, I won't bother elaborating.

And lose the patronizing attitude. It's unbecoming.

[QUOTE="jaydough"]

Because it's not. Seriously, bro. Calm down.

airshocker

But it is.

And since we've had this discussion about five times already, I won't bother elaborating.

And lose the patronizingattitude. It's unbecoming.

You know something, I didnt really care about this issue. But now that i see all the whining and moaning about it, I hope the owner builds the biggest, most extragvant mosque you can possibly build. This is such a non issue its not even funny.. wow seriouslyUnchartedZonePS

I like this post. Seriously, though, you should see pics of this "mosque," no minarets, no rounded sides, it's completely opposite of what people think of when they hear the word. It's like a typical city building, a big rectangle, with a very clear, almost silvery front. In fact, I hear they modeled it after a Jewish community center slewhere in NYC.

I don't get it. All of you people who keep calling the opposition bigots know full well why reasonable people are against it, so why do you try and spin it as if it's not a big deal?

airshocker

Simply because it really isn't a big deal. If that's where their community is, it makes all the sense in the world to build a community center there. It shouldn't offend other Americans and 9/11 victims, because (as I'm sure you'll agree) it wasn't Islam that attacked the towers, it was a pack of depraved lunatics who just happened to be Muslim.

Simply because it really isn't a big deal. If that's where their community is, it makes all the sense in the world to build a community center there. It shouldn't offend other Americans and 9/11 victims, because (as I'm sure you'll agree) it wasn't Islam that attacked the towers, it was a pack of depraved lunatics who just happened to be Muslim.

SgtKevali

And you still ignore the questions that reasonable people are asking as if they're irrelevant. Maybe in your fantasy world they are, but in the real world they aren't. That's borderline criminal.

Keep in mind, that doesn't even take into consideration that building the mosque in that place is a jerk thing to do.

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

Simply because it really isn't a big deal. If that's where their community is, it makes all the sense in the world to build a community center there. It shouldn't offend other Americans and 9/11 victims, because (as I'm sure you'll agree) it wasn't Islam that attacked the towers, it was a pack of depraved lunatics who just happened to be Muslim.

airshocker

And you still ignore the questions that reasonable people are asking as if they're irrelevant. Maybe in your fantasy world they are, but in the real world they aren't. That's borderline criminal.

Keep in mind, that doesn't even take into consideration that building the mosque in that place is a jerk thing to do.

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

Simply because it really isn't a big deal. If that's where their community is, it makes all the sense in the world to build a community center there. It shouldn't offend other Americans and 9/11 victims, because (as I'm sure you'll agree) it wasn't Islam that attacked the towers, it was a pack of depraved lunatics who just happened to be Muslim.

airshocker

And you still ignore the questions that reasonable people are asking as if they're irrelevant. Maybe in your fantasy world they are, but in the real world they aren't. That's borderline criminal.

Keep in mind, that doesn't even take into consideration that building the mosque in that place is a jerk thing to do.

Do you blame all muslims for 9/11 or something? That's not cool dude.Fried_Shrimp

You must have read a different post, because I didn't say that.

[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"]Do you blame all muslims for 9/11 or something? That's not cool dude.airshocker

You must have read a different post, because I didn't say that.

[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"]Do you blame all muslims for 9/11 or something? That's not cool dude.airshocker

You must have read a different post, because I didn't say that.

What are the questions that people are asking, and why is building a mosque a jerk thing to do? Ninja-Hippo

Building the mosque in a place where we were attacked by extremist Muslims is a jerk thing to do. Sure, they have the right to build it there, but is it a wise thing to do? It's like some guy hitting on your wife. Sure, he has the right to do it, but is it a nice thing to do? Absolutely not.

I want to know which countries are funding it. I also want the Iman in charge to denounce Hamas as a terrorist organization. Mediator or not, you shouldn't be burying your head in the sand when it comes to topics like that.

He's just asking a question that a lot of reasonable people are asking.

jaydough

Actually, he was putting words in my mouth. But if you don't see that then I suppose I should just ignore your posts from now on.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]What are the questions that people are asking, and why is building a mosque a jerk thing to do? airshocker

And they're not building the mosque on ground zero, so its not like they're building it "in a place where we were attacked" but a place near it. Xenophobia ftw.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]What are the questions that people are asking, and why is building a mosque a jerk thing to do? airshocker

Building the mosque in a place where we were attacked by extremist Muslims is a jerk thing to do. Sure, they have the right to build it there, but is it a wise thing to do? It's like some guy hitting on your wife. Sure, he has the right to do it, but is it a nice thing to do? Absolutely not.

I want to know which countries are funding it. I also want the Iman in charge to denounce Hamas as a terrorist organization. Mediator or not, you shouldn't be burying your head in the sand when it comes to topics like that.

[QUOTE="jaydough"]

He's just asking a question that a lot of reasonable people are asking.

airshocker

Actually, he was putting words in my mouth. But if you don't see that then I suppose I should just ignore your posts from now on.

So..you're condemning the whole of the muslims for the actions of a few?

And they're not building the mosque on ground zero, so its not like they're building it "in a place where we were attacked" but a place near it. Xenophobia ftw.

Mousetaches

How am I condemning anything? It's not like my word alone is going to prevent the mosque from being built.

You can dress it up however you want, it's still Ground Zero. Insults, the crutch of those who are unwilling to admit someone has a point.

....building a mosque is equivalent to someone hitting on your wife? How? :? Do you want to know who's funding a church? Do you want the church to formally announce that murdering doctors who carry out abortions is wrong? Why should *americans* who have lived in America their entire lives and practiced their faith in their current community center for *over 30 years* have to be harangued and persecuted because of the actions of *foreign nationals* who they have absolutely nothing to do with? If Hitler invaded Poland in the name of buddhism would you be suspicious of all future budhists? I think not. Ninja-Hippo

It's the equivalent of being a jerk. I thought I made that clear.

Christians didn't bomb the WTC. There's also no persecution going on by myself. So save your sanctimony for someone is actually guilty of that action.

And lose the patronizing attitude. It's unbecoming. airshocker

It's the equivalent of being a jerk. airshocker

Insults, the crutch of those who are unwilling to admit someone has a point. airshocker

Irony.

[QUOTE="UnchartedZonePS"]You know something, I didnt really care about this issue. But now that i see all the whining and moaning about it, I hope the owner builds the biggest, most extragvant mosque you can possibly build. This is such a non issue its not even funny.. wow seriouslySpinoRaptor24

Agreed. You'd think people would get over something that happened 9 years ago.

@Moustaches

Okay? I suppose you're conceding that I'm right concerning the mosque, then?

I would actually call those statements of facts rather than insults. Considering I haven't showed any xenophobia whatsoever, that was clearly an insult. And number two doesn't belong on that. It wasn't an insult towards anybody.

It wasn't an insult towards anybody. airshocker

Okay? I suppose you're conceding that I'm right concerning the mosque, then? airshocker

You must have read a different post, because I didn't say that. airshocker

Muslims aren't people? And to quote someone you may recognize, I retort with: [QUOTE="airshocker"] You must have read a different post, because I didn't say that. Mousetaches

Am I arguing with muslims as a whole right now?

Then respond to my remarks having to do with the mosque or this discussion is over.

[QUOTE="Mousetaches"]Muslims aren't people? And to quote someone you may recognize, I retort with: [QUOTE="airshocker"] You must have read a different post, because I didn't say that. airshocker

Am I arguing with muslims as a whole right now?

Then respond to my remarks having to do with the mosque or this discussion is over.

do not expect any rational responses. reason being, they may hate you, but you are a bigot and a racist if you are not sensitive to their feelings. i cant believe someone would actually argue that the mosque is not a big deal. i am just....stumped.
sometimes i wish the US showed a little bit of spine like the French and the Swiss.
They said fundamental islam is not welcome and banned the burka and construction of minarets. problem solved. of course, we have mr. obama who would bow to the king, so dont expect any such thing to happen.doom3lv

Just people being narrow-minded, as always. Nothing I'm not used to.

[QUOTE="Mousetaches"]Muslims aren't people? And to quote someone you may recognize, I retort with: [QUOTE="airshocker"] You must have read a different post, because I didn't say that. airshocker

Am I arguing with muslims as a whole right now?

Then respond to my remarks having to do with the mosque or this discussion is over.

[QUOTE="UnchartedZonePS"]You know something, I didnt really care about this issue. But now that i see all the whining and moaning about it, I hope the owner builds the biggest, most extragvant mosque you can possibly build. This is such a non issue its not even funny.. wow seriouslySpinoRaptor24

Agreed. You'd think people would get over something that happened 9 years ago.

Just people being narrow-minded, as always. Nothing I'm not used to.

airshocker

I suppose I should just ignore your posts from now on.

airshocker

lol

do not expect any rational responses. reason being, they may hate you, but you are a bigot and a racist if you are not sensitive to their feelings.
i cant believe someone would actually argue that the mosque is not a big deal. i am just....stumped.
sometimes i wish the US showed a little bit of spine like the French and the Swiss.
They said fundamental islam is not welcome and banned the burka and construction of minarets. problem solved. of course, we have mr. obama who would bow to the king, so dont expect any such thing to happen. doom3lv

So I can say, "The airforce is made up of airheads and wussies" and its not an insult because I'm not arguing with them as a whole? And the only issue with the mosque is that people are making it an issue. This isn't about them building a community center near ground zero, its about them building a community center where they need one. Mousetaches

Nothing you say about the Air Force will ever insult me. I expect it from liberal civvies who don't have a clue about the military.

And as I've already pointed out, it is an issue. I've brought up reasonable questions that haven't been answered. You can bury your head in the sand if you want, the adults will ask the hard questions and not be afraid everytime we get called bigots.