[QUOTE="theone86"][QUOTE="doom3lv"] Christians of America are quite capable of being peaceful. If it wasn't for them America wouldn't be what it is.
Can people honestly say the same thing about muslims? Considering every other day a naturalized American muslim is in the news for wanting to harm other people in the name of islam.
Yet, if we do not love islam, we are bigots. That's great.
doom3lv
Ha, way to strawman my argument. I never said you were a bigot if you didn't love Islam, I said you were a bigot if you didn't respect Islam and argued for the cultural superiority of Christianity.
Yes, I can say that about Muslims. I seriously wonder where this country would be without Muslims, they make up a large percentage of the cabbie force in major cities, what if there were no cabs tomorrow? They're also very prominent in education and the intellectual community, I think this country would be worse off in that regard for not having them. Using an argument I've typically heard defending Christianity, they're very charitable people. Perhaps ht emost important thing, though, is that they represent a unique culture that has been isolated from American culture and serve as a connection to that culture here in America. We are a richer culture for having them here in America, so yes if it wasn't for them America wouldn't be what it is today.
If you actually look at the news there's a greater likelihood of reading about anon-Muslim citizen commiting a violent crime than a Muslim. Most Muslims who commit acts of terror aren't naturalized citizens, and those that are represent a minority.
Every bad about islam is a minority. Every good thing about islam is a majority.
never ever look at korna and ask, is there something inherently wrong with this book and the way its being taught. no. never ever do that because the book is moer important than people. That's religion for you, okay? You want to dissect the torah and the bible and take every little thing in there that's disagreable as well, fine. Personally, I dislike all organized religion. I'm not defending the verses that advocate male dominance in the Koran, but it is by no means alone in that regard. That is a trait that is endemic to western religion because western religion evolved in male-centric societies. If you want to make the argument that having outdated ideas in a holy book is a condemnation of a religion then I won't argue, not because I wholly agree but because I don't feel any compulsion to argue in favor of organized religion. What I WILL argue against is that Islam is alone in its male-centric writings or its advocating violence, as that is simply untrue. You want to slander Muslims, fine, but then after you finish go out and slander Jews and Christians as well because their holy books ahve the exact same things in them. You won't do that, though, because you don't buy into your own bull****. You don't care about the presence of these writings in one holy book or another, you only care about picking on Muslims because their culture seems more foreign to you.
(hint: there is a 'both' option) 
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