Muhammed, a question of Censorship?

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[QUOTE="LiquidClear"]

Somewhat on topic, but can anyone remember if Mohammed was depicted back when they did the original "Super Best Friends" episode? It's a pretty old one that might pre-date 9/11, which means hysteria about extremists reacting probably would have been low... just wondering :P

guitarshr3dd3r

"Either it's all ok, or none of it is"

Southpark makes fun of Scientology -> Scientologists complain, but whatever.

Southpark makes fun of Christianity -> Various complains, whatever.

Southpark makes of of Islam -> 1 death threat, anti-muslim sentiments arise in response.

If the Muslims just complained like everyone else instead of issuing death threats, and Comedy Central didn't censor anything, this would just be another South Park episode which nobody will care about a week after it aired, just like the original Super Best Friends.

Personally I think the only solution to the muhammed 'issue' is to ban anything which contains the word.

htekemerald

My name contains the word Muhammad so you wanna ban me?:cry:

I don't think it's censorship if a network decides to withdraw a show in the face of some comments some wacko posted on some website. I can't see any reason I'd ever want to draw Mohammed but nor do I think it should be (or ever will be) illegal.

If people desperately want to draw pictures of Mohammed for no other reason than to piss of muslims, I personally think they're as much a bunch of jackasses as an abortionist setting up his clinic right in the middle of a Catholic district - both are examples of unnecessary and juvenile incitement.

Southpark makes fun of Scientology -> Scientologists complain, but whatever.

Southpark makes fun of Christianity -> Various complains, whatever.

Southpark makes of of Islam -> 1 death threat, anti-muslim sentiments arise in response.

If the Muslims just complained like everyone else instead of issuing death threats, and Comedy Central didn't censor anything, this would just be another South Park episode which nobody will care about a week after it aired, just like the original Super Best Friends.

xionvalkyrie

On the other hand, I strongly doubt that this is the first time they've ever gotten a "death threat".

If a scientologist or a Christian had sent Comedy Central a "death threat", do you think there was really a chance in hell of Comedy Central censoring anything?

HIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i make fun of islam every day, try beheading me. Islam deserves no respect.Atheists_Pwn

I don't think it's ok. Islam strictly forbids images of the Prophet. It's one of their core beliefs/teachings. It's not an insane belief, or asking every human in the world to do something outlandish for Islam, just don't use his image. If the same were the case in Christianity all hell would have broken loose over here, and i venture to bet it would have never aired. Some things should be respected, even if you don't believe in it at all.btaylor2404

[QUOTE="btaylor2404"]I don't think it's ok. Islam strictly forbids images of the Prophet. It's one of their core beliefs/teachings. It's not an insane belief, or asking every human in the world to do something outlandish for Islam, just don't use his image. If the same were the case in Christianity all hell would have broken loose over here, and i venture to bet it would have never aired. Some things should be respected, even if you don't believe in it at all.Atheists_Pwn

[QUOTE="Atheists_Pwn"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]I don't think it's ok. Islam strictly forbids images of the Prophet. It's one of their core beliefs/teachings. It's not an insane belief, or asking every human in the world to do something outlandish for Islam, just don't use his image. If the same were the case in Christianity all hell would have broken loose over here, and i venture to bet it would have never aired. Some things should be respected, even if you don't believe in it at all.RazMaTaz0121

[QUOTE="btaylor2404"]I don't think it's ok. Islam strictly forbids images of the Prophet. It's one of their core beliefs/teachings. It's not an insane belief, or asking every human in the world to do something outlandish for Islam, just don't use his image. If the same were the case in Christianity all hell would have broken loose over here, and i venture to bet it would have never aired. Some things should be respected, even if you don't believe in it at all.Atheists_Pwn

what i dont get is this. if they dont like something then dont watch. simple.

what i dont get is this. if they dont like something then dont watch. simple.

hiphopballer

That is very subjective. If we walked away from every insult and bad mouthing, you would be nothing but a coward. If you go to school and people mimick you everyday, draw pictures of someone close to you whos passed on, would you not retaliate? I certainly would. its not simply changing the channell as people have now started to take things too far, Its becoming a public thing, people in London are holding protests just to close mosques, the drawing news spreads through news papers, tv, and other sources. We are expressing our views to why its wrong, so if we want to speak on something thats indispicable and wrong, its only our right to do so. Infact, muslims aint even asking for much. All they have said is not to draw Prophet Muhammad, and while some may be a little barbaric to the way they react, the only thing its gonna cause if people continue to do it and continue mimicking is Havok.

what i dont get is this. if they dont like something then dont watch. simple.

hiphopballer

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Offending billions of people for the hell of it is not what I classify as an ever-progressive world. How bout this: We don't act like assclowns to people for the luls, and in return we don't freak out over the smallest detail when all one wants to do is inquire. There, everyone's happy, society progresses.topgunmv

There are barely even a billion Muslims. Why are we speaking in plural? :shock:

By the way; Sweden decided to not even show those two episodes mentioned because they were too afraid. The dude over at Comedy Central in Sweden said that ensuring that their employees won't feel threatened or get hurt is higher priority than sending these two episodes.

We don't bend over backwards for any other religion, why should we do it for them?

By the way; Sweden decided to not even show those two episodes mentioned because they were too afraid. The dude over at Comedy Central in Sweden said that ensuring that their employees won't feel threatened or get hurt is higher priority than sending these two episodes.

xWoW_Rougex

We don't bend over backwards for any other religion, why should we do it for them?

Snipes_2

If I want to make fun of something, then I will. I dont care if its religious or not.

clyde46

We don't bend over backwards for any other religion, why should we do it for them?

Snipes_2

We don't bend over backwards for any other religion, why should we do it for them?

Snipes_2

Bend over? Seriously, you have to "bend over" just to prevent drawing someone who has passed away? Wow, pathetic. Taking micky outta the dead aint funny. Period.

i make fun of islam every day, try beheading me. Islam deserves no respect.Atheists_Pwn

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We don't bend over backwards for any other religion, why should we do it for them?

Disturbed123

Bend over? Seriously, you have to "bend over" just to prevent drawing someone who has passed away? Wow, pathetic. Taking micky outta the dead aint funny. Period.

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

We don't bend over backwards for any other religion, why should we do it for them?

d4nny-

Bend over? Seriously, you have to "bend over" just to prevent drawing someone who has passed away? Wow, pathetic. Taking micky outta the dead aint funny. Period.

Then your humour is just sickening. Lets see how you like it when someone draws someone like your mum or dad when they pass away and makes mockery of it.

[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

We don't bend over backwards for any other religion, why should we do it for them?

d4nny-

Bend over? Seriously, you have to "bend over" just to prevent drawing someone who has passed away? Wow, pathetic. Taking micky outta the dead aint funny. Period.

But you can!

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[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

Bend over? Seriously, you have to "bend over" just to prevent drawing someone who has passed away? Wow, pathetic. Taking micky outta the dead aint funny. Period.

Disturbed123

Then your humour is just sickening. Lets see how you like it when someone draws someone like your mum or dad when they pass away and makes mockery of it.

[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

[QUOTE="d4nny-"] It is funny. Sorry to burst your bubble. You cannot claim what is and isn't funny.

htekemerald

Then your humour is just sickening. Lets see how you like it when someone draws someone like your mum or dad when they pass away and makes mockery of it.

and that justifies it as being right? yeah didnt think so.

[QUOTE="d4nny-"]

[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

Bend over? Seriously, you have to "bend over" just to prevent drawing someone who has passed away? Wow, pathetic. Taking micky outta the dead aint funny. Period.

Then your humour is just sickening. Lets see how you like it when someone draws someone like your mum or dad when they pass away and makes mockery of it.

I don't think it's ok. Islam strictly forbids images of the Prophet. It's one of their core beliefs/teachings. It's not an insane belief, or asking every human in the world to do something outlandish for Islam, just don't use his image. If the same were the case in Christianity all hell would have broken loose over here, and i venture to bet it would have never aired. Some things should be respected, even if you don't believe in it at all.btaylor2404

[QUOTE="d4nny-"]

[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

Bend over? Seriously, you have to "bend over" just to prevent drawing someone who has passed away? Wow, pathetic. Taking micky outta the dead aint funny. Period.

Disturbed123

Then your humour is just sickening. Lets see how you like it when someone draws someone like your mum or dad when they pass away and makes mockery of it.

I hate my mother and father, so what next?

[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

[QUOTE="d4nny-"] It is funny. Sorry to burst your bubble. You cannot claim what is and isn't funny.

htekemerald

Then your humour is just sickening. Lets see how you like it when someone draws someone like your mum or dad when they pass away and makes mockery of it.

[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

[QUOTE="d4nny-"] It is funny. Sorry to burst your bubble. You cannot claim what is and isn't funny.

d4nny-

Then your humour is just sickening. Lets see how you like it when someone draws someone like your mum or dad when they pass away and makes mockery of it.

I hate my mother and father, so what next?

Then clearly you are the problem then.

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[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

Then your humour is just sickening. Lets see how you like it when someone draws someone like your mum or dad when they pass away and makes mockery of it.

Disturbed123

and that justifies it as being right? yeah didnt think so.

and please stop trying to dictate your twisted view of morality to people.

[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

Then your humour is just sickening. Lets see how you like it when someone draws someone like your mum or dad when they pass away and makes mockery of it.

jimmyjammer69

Yes. Well not recently, but Dave Chappelle is amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzPxRqoXeXQ

[QUOTE="Atheists_Pwn"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]I don't think it's ok. Islam strictly forbids images of the Prophet. It's one of their core beliefs/teachings. It's not an insane belief, or asking every human in the world to do something outlandish for Islam, just don't use his image. If the same were the case in Christianity all hell would have broken loose over here, and i venture to bet it would have never aired. Some things should be respected, even if you don't believe in it at all.RazMaTaz0121

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[QUOTE="htekemerald"] If they are a public figure they are free game...

htekemerald

and that justifies it as being right? yeah didnt think so.

and please stop trying to dictate your twisted view of morality to people.

Wow, how pathetic :| and i can feel free to spread my views if i want to, you know, the whole "freedom of speech" crap. What passes by as "ok" to you lot is just a bloody joke. No offense, but i guess that USA for you.

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[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

Then your humour is just sickening. Lets see how you like it when someone draws someone like your mum or dad when they pass away and makes mockery of it.

jimmyjammer69

Whats it that they say, If you can't come up with an argument you play semantics?

[QUOTE="RazMaTaz0121"][QUOTE="Atheists_Pwn"] You seem to have a fundamental problem with your logic: We are not Muslim, thus we CAN draw muhammed. Try standing up for free speech once and awhile ;) Not all beliefs deserve respect. If these people were fanatical about the earth being flat, would you defend it? If so, thats irrational. Religion absolutely never deserves respect.Atheists_Pwn