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These freaks need to back the **** down.Hexagon_777
Dont worry when hot naked women are in danger and theres nobody left to help you can count on this man, the one the only the KING
She hasn't lost the respect of her fellow countrymen, only those who deem themselves Muslim and are overly extreme in their views. How much is respect from such fanatics worth anyway? How much do your parents really love you if they break contact over something like this?I wonder if she it was worth it. Parents cutting off all contact and losing the respect of all your fellow countrymen and muslims around the world.
m25105
She hasn't lost the respect of her fellow countrymen, only those who deem themselves Muslim and are overly extreme in their views. How much is respect from such fanatics worth anyway? How much do your parents really love you if they break contact over something like this?[QUOTE="m25105"]
I wonder if she it was worth it. Parents cutting off all contact and losing the respect of all your fellow countrymen and muslims around the world.
Hexagon_777
I hardly think any Turk at all would approve of this, so yes she has lost the respect of her countrymen.
She hasn't lost the respect of her fellow countrymen, only those who deem themselves Muslim and are overly extreme in their views. How much is respect from such fanatics worth anyway? How much do your parents really love you if they break contact over something like this?[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]
[QUOTE="m25105"]
I wonder if she it was worth it. Parents cutting off all contact and losing the respect of all your fellow countrymen and muslims around the world.
m25105
I hardly think any Turk at all would approve of this, so yes she has lost the respect of her countrymen.
She could always move to another country.....and probably easily enough if she's getting death threats.[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="m25105"]I wonder if she it was worth it. Parents cutting off all contact and losing the respect of all your fellow countrymen and muslims around the world.m25105She hasn't lost the respect of her fellow countrymen, only those who deem themselves Muslim and are overly extreme in their views. How much is respect from such fanatics worth anyway? How much do your parents really love you if they break contact over something like this?I hardly think any Turk at all would approve of this, so yes she has lost the respect of her countrymen.She's a German woman of Turkish descent. I doubt Germans will lose respect for her over this, let alone throw such an uproar.
I hardly think any Turk at all would approve of this, so yes she has lost the respect of her countrymen.She's a German woman of Turkish descent. I doubt Germans will lose respect for her over this, let alone throw such an uproar.[QUOTE="m25105"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]She hasn't lost the respect of her fellow countrymen, only those who deem themselves Muslim and are overly extreme in their views. How much is respect from such fanatics worth anyway? How much do your parents really love you if they break contact over something like this?Hexagon_777
Ask any Turk who was born in Germany if they consider themselves German or Turkish and they will nearly all say they consider themselves Turkish. She brought disgrace to her countrymen and her family for little stunt, she should've expected it.
She's a German woman of Turkish descent. I doubt Germans will lose respect for her over this, let alone throw such an uproar.[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]
[QUOTE="m25105"]I hardly think any Turk at all would approve of this, so yes she has lost the respect of her countrymen.m25105
Ask any Turk who was born in Germany if they consider themselves German or Turkish and they will nearly all say they consider themselves Turkish. She brought disgrace to her countrymen and her family for little stunt, she should've expected it.
Ah no. No one can bring another disgrace. You can only do that to yourself. They need to let her live her own life.....[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="m25105"]I hardly think any Turk at all would approve of this, so yes she has lost the respect of her countrymen.m25105She's a German woman of Turkish descent. I doubt Germans will lose respect for her over this, let alone throw such an uproar.Ask any Turk who was born in Germany if they consider themselves German or Turkish and they will nearly all say they consider themselves Turkish. She brought disgrace to her countrymen and her family for little stunt, she should've expected it.This Western infidel harlot is surely German, however, for no Turkish girl would do such a thing.
[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"]If she knew anything about her religion, she would have known this would be a terrible ideaferrari2001I thought it's the religion of peace? Unless you do something that is opposed to the religion of peace, then you must die. It's a rather simply religion really. Apparently, we have two biggots now known to the OT forum. Congrats Jer_1 and chaos cougar1
Where exactly does this woman live? I'm assuming not in the middle east since if she did she'd probably of been publicly executed by now. If not in the middle east then, really, no Muslim gets to tell her how to behave if what she is doing is legal in that country then there is no issue.
[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]
[QUOTE="worlock77"]
The word "slut" is nothing if not an ugly, misogynistic word.
Disturbed123
Also:
"glad that her parents disowned her. Stupid slag. "
Yet the Kebab man who would kill:
"I can see why hes angry, but a Kebab Chainsaw Massacre is a bit much."
What a joke man.
misogynous - hating women in particular
Plural - women! I hate womAn.
Im a married man I would certainly be every level of ****ed if my daughter ended up like her. Also, Muhammed Ali talks a similar matter and I agree, but about mini skirts.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odBSDckTu6A
If it was your lots daughter doing that I can see a very different tone in this thread. Thats a fact.
You know what they say about assumptions.
I would accept that the second my daughter turns 18 and leaves my home, I lose any legal right to tell her what to do. And that trying to boss her around in such a situation would be no different from going up to a stranger on the street and demanding he live under my rules.
She lives in Germany where honour killings by such freaks are not the rarest of sights. Strangely enough, what she is doing is indeed legal. The threats she is receiving, however, are not.Where exactly does this woman live? I'm assuming not in the middle east since if she did she'd probably of been publicly executed by now. If not in the middle east then, really, no Muslim gets to tell her how to behave if what she is doing is legal in that country then there is no issue.
Pixel-Pirate
I love how westerners give their ignorant opinions about Islam and Muslim civilization when their half-assed "analysis" of the cultureand religion are not only incorrect, but hypocritical as well, especially when you see the atrocities committed by european civilizations such as the crusades, racial slavery, brutal iimperialism, fanatical persecution, and the list goes on and on.
[QUOTE="worlock77"]you're right..there's nothing shameful about the human form....but there is something shameful on degrading yourself to being nothing more than what 15 year old boys **** off too.....and I'm thankfull you aren't planning on having any kids....I actually have much more respect for people whom know they don;t want them and choose not too...Well personally I have no children and am not going to have any, as kids would really put a cramp in my life, but hypothetically speaking. And sorry if I don't share your values, but I find nothing inherantly shameful about the nude human form.
Omni-Slash
I have no respect for control freaks who try to control the lives of adults who have no obligation to listen to them. Once your daughter leaves your house at adult hood, you have no right, legal or otherwise, to tell her what to do. And to disown her/not talk to her just shows a failure of a parent.
[QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"] I thought it's the religion of peace?Nayef_shroofUnless you do something that is opposed to the religion of peace, then you must die. It's a rather simply religion really. Apparently, we have two biggots now known to the OT forum. Congrats Jer_1 and chaos cougar1Ignore the bigots. They are small fries compared to the Muslims passing on death threats, for they may actually hurt people.
She lives in Germany where honour killings by such freaks are not the rarest of sights. Strangely enough, what she is doing is indeed legal. The threats she is receiving, however, are not.[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]
Where exactly does this woman live? I'm assuming not in the middle east since if she did she'd probably of been publicly executed by now. If not in the middle east then, really, no Muslim gets to tell her how to behave if what she is doing is legal in that country then there is no issue.
Hexagon_777
Then I would hope the German police are on the ball to stop this instead of stopping sales of the latest MK game.
[QUOTE="worlock77"]yeah...I can see where The Birth of Venus and Playboy are equivalent...been taking lessons from theone?....So were the people who modeled for, say, Botticelli degrading themselves?
Omni-Slash
Playboy is actually very artisticly done and tasteful. The women are not engaged in acts of sex or really anything outside of tasteful nudes. Have you seen a playboy in the past 30 years?
That's great and all, but as long as you reside in a Western country, death threats and such are taboo. Holding grudges for the past won't get you anywhere. I had to endure the laws present in Jeddah and Riyadh as well when I lived there.I love how westerners give their ignorant opinions about Islam and Muslim civilization when their half-assed "analysis" of the cultureand religion are not only incorrect, but hypocritical as well, especially when you see the atrocities committed by european civilizations such as the crusades, racial slavery, brutal iimperialism, fanatical persecution, and the list goes on and on.
Nayef_shroof
[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"]
I love how westerners give their ignorant opinions about Islam and Muslim civilization when their half-assed "analysis" of the cultureand religion are not only incorrect, but hypocritical as well, especially when you see the atrocities committed by european civilizations such as the crusades, racial slavery, brutal iimperialism, fanatical persecution, and the list goes on and on.
That's great and all, but as long as you reside in a Western country, death threats and such are taboo. Holding grudges for the past won't get you anywhere. I had to endure the laws present in Jeddah and Riyadh as well when I lived there. I agree. Those moronic "muslim" fanatics are causing HUGE problems for our religion, but understand that this act really does shame the family greatly. Killing her for this would just be barbaric, but its appropriate that she should be ashamed to face her familyI wonder if she think it was worth it. Parents cutting off all contact and losing the respect of all your fellow countrymen and muslims around the world.
m25105
Isn't she in Germany? I doubt many Germans care.
Yep. So, lets just disregard that the leader of catholicism (the pope) stated in the eleventh century that if a christian killed a muslim, they would be allowed into heaven. Amirite?How many of these "rare" radical Muslims are there? According to OT, its very rare for this to happen and only a select few Muslims are doing this. Yet it seemingly happens in any part of the world they tend to occupy. Weird coincidence I guess. *shrugs*
bobaban
How many of these "rare" radical Muslims are there? According to OT, its very rare for this to happen and only a select few Muslims are doing this. Yet it seemingly happens in any part of the world they tend to occupy. Weird coincidence I guess. *shrugs*
bobaban
People threaten each other on the internet every day.
And as many have stated she should have known, instead of exposing her body to the world, she could have written a book or promote herself in other ways to get her message across. If anything this strikes me as her being stupid wanting to rebel (even comparing herself to Che Guevara (spelling?)).
Or, we could stop this irrational hatred of the entirety of the worlds 1.6 billion Muslim population, and instead focus on how we can stop radicalism of all kinds, including the very real problem of Radical Islam.Whats 1% of radical Muslims out of 1.6 billion? 1.6 million maniacs. And there are certainly more than 1% radical Muslims. This is why you keep hearing these type of things over and over and over again.EDIT: And yes, I do realize that there are more Radical Muslims then in other religions, and they are more then willing to use violence to achieve their ends, but they are still minorities in the scheme of things.
majoras_wrath
I love how westerners give their ignorant opinions about Islam and Muslim civilization when their half-assed "analysis" of the cultureand religion are not only incorrect, but hypocritical as well, especially when you see the atrocities committed by european civilizations such as the crusades, racial slavery, brutal iimperialism, fanatical persecution, and the list goes on and on.
Nayef_shroof
Westerners committed attrocities during the crusades ergo death threats for appearing in playboy are justified? What point are you trying to make?
Whats 1% of radical Muslims out of 1.6 billion? 1.6 million maniacs. And there are certainly more than 1% radical Muslims. This is why you keep hearing these type of things over and over and over again.[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]Or, we could stop this irrational hatred of the entirety of the worlds 1.6 billion Muslim population, and instead focus on how we can stop radicalism of all kinds, including the very real problem of Radical Islam.
EDIT: And yes, I do realize that there are more Radical Muslims then in other religions, and they are more then willing to use violence to achieve their ends, but they are still minorities in the scheme of things.
bobaban
But it isn't the majority. Unless you're suggesting there are over 700 million radicals out there, which if so I wonder why they haven't mobilized and simply taken over the world with such a force.
[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"]
I love how westerners give their ignorant opinions about Islam and Muslim civilization when their half-assed "analysis" of the cultureand religion are not only incorrect, but hypocritical as well, especially when you see the atrocities committed by european civilizations such as the crusades, racial slavery, brutal iimperialism, fanatical persecution, and the list goes on and on.
poptart
Westerners committed attrocities during the crusades ergo death threats for appearing in playboy are justified? What point are you trying to make?
The statement is regarded to the ignorant biggots who give their opinions on things they know nothing about, not the topicYep. So, lets just disregard that the leader of catholicism (the pope) stated in the eleventh century that if a christian killed a muslim, they would be allowed into heaven. Amirite? Because that pertains to 2011 and a woman posting in Playboy....:|[QUOTE="bobaban"]
How many of these "rare" radical Muslims are there? According to OT, its very rare for this to happen and only a select few Muslims are doing this. Yet it seemingly happens in any part of the world they tend to occupy. Weird coincidence I guess. *shrugs*
Nayef_shroof
[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"]
I love how westerners give their ignorant opinions about Islam and Muslim civilization when their half-assed "analysis" of the cultureand religion are not only incorrect, but hypocritical as well, especially when you see the atrocities committed by european civilizations such as the crusades, racial slavery, brutal iimperialism, fanatical persecution, and the list goes on and on.
poptart
Westerners committed attrocities during the crusades ergo death threats for appearing in playboy are justified? What point are you trying to make?
Nice strawman you've got there. Did you build it yourself?[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"]
I love how westerners give their ignorant opinions about Islam and Muslim civilization when their half-assed "analysis" of the cultureand religion are not only incorrect, but hypocritical as well, especially when you see the atrocities committed by european civilizations such as the crusades, racial slavery, brutal iimperialism, fanatical persecution, and the list goes on and on.
Westerners committed attrocities during the crusades ergo death threats for appearing in playboy are justified? What point are you trying to make?
Nice strawman you've got there. Did you build it yourself? Again, "The statement is regarded to the ignorant biggots who give their opinions on things they know nothing about, not the topic"Whats 1% of radical Muslims out of 1.6 billion? 1.6 million maniacs. And there are certainly more than 1% radical Muslims. This is why you keep hearing these type of things over and over and over again.[QUOTE="bobaban"]
[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]Or, we could stop this irrational hatred of the entirety of the worlds 1.6 billion Muslim population, and instead focus on how we can stop radicalism of all kinds, including the very real problem of Radical Islam.
EDIT: And yes, I do realize that there are more Radical Muslims then in other religions, and they are more then willing to use violence to achieve their ends, but they are still minorities in the scheme of things.
Pixel-Pirate
But it isn't the majority. Unless you're suggesting there are over 700 million radicals out there, which if so I wonder why they haven't mobilized and simply taken over the world with such a force.
My point is the religion itself perpetuates these types incidences. If you look at the core of their religion they treat their people like soldiers for God. Well, at least it can be easily promoted in that fashion and have people follow it.[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"]If she knew anything about her religion, she would have known this would be a terrible ideaYellowOneKinobiI thought it's the religion of peace? Well the simple answer is that Islam isn't a religion of peace.
[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"] I thought it's the religion of peace?Nayef_shroofWell the simple answer is that Islam isn't a religion of peace. And a simple realization is that your just ignorant :) Great argument you've got there. You want a REAL religion of peace, Jainism. Now there's a religion devoted to pacifism and non-violence.
[QUOTE="poptart"][QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"]
I love how westerners give their ignorant opinions about Islam and Muslim civilization when their half-assed "analysis" of the cultureand religion are not only incorrect, but hypocritical as well, especially when you see the atrocities committed by european civilizations such as the crusades, racial slavery, brutal iimperialism, fanatical persecution, and the list goes on and on.
worlock77
Westerners committed attrocities during the crusades ergo death threats for appearing in playboy are justified? What point are you trying to make?
Nice strawman you've got there. Did you build it yourself?Lol - I build no man of straw... I think you'll see my point is, why bring up racial slavery and the crusades in a topic about playboy if not to argue against the point being made about death threats? A better perspective would have been to point out the ignorance of Westerners and sensationalist views held re: Islam (which is true), but add that death threats are uncalled for. That's not a strawman dear fellow...
[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"][QUOTE="bobaban"] Whats 1% of radical Muslims out of 1.6 billion? 1.6 million maniacs. And there are certainly more than 1% radical Muslims. This is why you keep hearing these type of things over and over and over again.
bobaban
But it isn't the majority. Unless you're suggesting there are over 700 million radicals out there, which if so I wonder why they haven't mobilized and simply taken over the world with such a force.
My point is the religion itself perpetuates these types incidences. If you look at the core of their religion they treat their people like soldiers for God. Well, at least it can be easily promoted in that fashion and have people follow it.Unless the majority are radicals then I don't feel Islam does a good job for perpetuating such incidents. A few million out of a billion is a pretty poor precentage.
[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"] I thought it's the religion of peace?Nayef_shroofWell the simple answer is that Islam isn't a religion of peace. And a simple realization is that your just ignorant :)
I don't have anything against muslims but even I won't swallow the pill that it is a Religion of peace. It has a bit too many radicals to really be called such, and other religions don't seem to have such problems. Paganism, Buddhism, etc are far closer to religions of peace.
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